Re: Excel Spreadsheet to PDF (was: Re: PDF on debian)

On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 10:42 PM Charles Curley wrote: > > On Fri, 10 Mar 2023 08:50:08 +0800 > Corey Hickman wrote: > > > If I want to convert some excel files to PDF, what's the suggested > > way? I know I can program with java to implement that, but if there > > are existing command-line

Excel Spreadsheet to PDF (was: Re: PDF on debian)

On Fri, 10 Mar 2023 08:50:08 +0800 Corey Hickman wrote: > If I want to convert some excel files to PDF, what's the suggested > way? I know I can program with java to implement that, but if there > are existing command-line solutions I would like to try them. This really should have been a new

Re: OT: Freestanding spreadsheet program?

Weaver wrote: > On 24-04-2021 08:25, Stefan Monnier wrote: >>> Back in the good (bad?) old days of TRS-80, all we had was VisiCalc. Simple. >>> Today, is there a useful spreadsheet program that does not rely on all the >>> baggage associated with either an &qu

Re: OT: Freestanding spreadsheet program?

On 25-04-2021 13:07, rustbuck...@pm.me wrote: > Weaver wrote: >> On 24-04-2021 08:25, Stefan Monnier wrote: >>>> Back in the good (bad?) old days of TRS-80, all we had was VisiCalc. >>>> Simple. >>>> Today, is there a useful spreadsheet progr

Re: OT: Freestanding spreadsheet program?

> I think he also wanted something that doesn't require a desktop environment. AFAIK Gnumeric works fine in "naked X11". Stefan

Re: OT: Freestanding spreadsheet program?

Thank you all. For reasons completely beyond my grasp I selected 'teapot' for further investigation despite there being as far as I can tell no deb for it. Oh well. 9-) -- RSB

Re: OT: Freestanding spreadsheet program?

On 24-04-2021 08:25, Stefan Monnier wrote: >> Back in the good (bad?) old days of TRS-80, all we had was VisiCalc. Simple. >> Today, is there a useful spreadsheet program that does not rely on all the >> baggage associated with either an "office suite," or >> a

Re: OT: Freestanding spreadsheet program?

> Back in the good (bad?) old days of TRS-80, all we had was VisiCalc. Simple. > Today, is there a useful spreadsheet program that does not rely on all the > baggage associated with either an "office suite," or > a "desktop environment?" I can mention `gnumeric

Re: OT: Freestanding spreadsheet program?

sure, teapot. On Fri, 23 Apr 2021, Dan Ritter wrote: > Bob Bernstein wrote: > > Back in the good (bad?) old days of TRS-80, all we had was VisiCalc. Simple. > > > > Today, is there a useful spreadsheet program that does not rely on all the > > baggage associated w

Re: OT: Freestanding spreadsheet program?

Bob Bernstein wrote: > Back in the good (bad?) old days of TRS-80, all we had was VisiCalc. Simple. > > Today, is there a useful spreadsheet program that does not rely on all the > baggage associated with either an "office suite," or a "desktop > environment?"

OT: Freestanding spreadsheet program?

Back in the good (bad?) old days of TRS-80, all we had was VisiCalc. Simple. Today, is there a useful spreadsheet program that does not rely on all the baggage associated with either an "office suite," or a "desktop environment?" Thx, -- "...that there is no gett

Re: Example(s) of recutils project flow? - was [FOSS equivalents of *OLD* database and spreadsheet tools?]

On Vi, 07 aug 20, 07:33:05, Richard Owlett wrote: > > I had done similar search with DuckDuckGo receiving similarly useless hits. [...] > That's why I'm looking for a human's answer. It helps to specify in advance what you tried already and didn't work. Kind regards, Andrei --

Re: Example(s) of recutils project flow? - was [FOSS equivalents of *OLD* database and spreadsheet tools?]

On 08/07/2020 06:46 AM, David wrote: On Fri, 7 Aug 2020 at 21:31, Richard Owlett wrote: On 07/27/2020 10:13 AM, Eric S Fraga wrote: You may wish to have a look at recutils: https://www.gnu.org/software/recutils/ I've done a first read of the well written manual which has many examples

Re: Example(s) of recutils project flow? - was [FOSS equivalents of *OLD* database and spreadsheet tools?]

On Fri, 7 Aug 2020 at 21:31, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 07/27/2020 10:13 AM, Eric S Fraga wrote: > > You may wish to have a look at recutils: > > https://www.gnu.org/software/recutils/ > I've done a first read of the well written manual which has many > examples of individual commands. Are

Example(s) of recutils project flow? - was [FOSS equivalents of *OLD* database and spreadsheet tools?]

On 07/27/2020 10:13 AM, Eric S Fraga wrote: You may wish to have a look at recutils: https://www.gnu.org/software/recutils/ but it may not have some of the functionality you wish (although you could build on it with shell scripts & awk, say). I've done a first read of the well written

Re: [Interim Solution] Re: FOSS equivalents of *OLD* database and spreadsheet tools?

On 7/29/20 06:03, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 07/29/2020 06:13 AM, Joe wrote: >> [snip] >> >> I'd recommend using the right tool for the job. >> > > Which is why I'll investigate. > Your approach is literally orders of magnitude more than I want. With respect, Joe is right, in my opinion based

Re: [Interim Solution] Re: FOSS equivalents of *OLD* database and spreadsheet tools?

; > > Yes, indeed - it sure seems like SQL will be necessary for either > querying, or importing from, databases of nutritional content. > Building the app around and SQL engine - say SQL Lite - would seem to > make a lot of sense. > > Anything else, and some kind of converter

Re: [Interim Solution] Re: FOSS equivalents of *OLD* database and spreadsheet tools?

On 07/30/2020 09:51 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote: In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is.  Yogi Berra

Re: [Interim Solution] Re: FOSS equivalents of *OLD* database and spreadsheet tools?

On 7/30/20 5:21 AM, Eric S Fraga wrote: On Wednesday, 29 Jul 2020 at 04:40, Richard Owlett wrote: On 07/27/2020 10:13 AM, Eric S Fraga wrote: You may wish to have a look at recutils: A database is over-kill for some personal preferences. I had mentioned spreadsheets in original post as I

Re: [Interim Solution] Re: FOSS equivalents of *OLD* database and spreadsheet tools?

On Thursday, 30 Jul 2020 at 06:15, Richard Owlett wrote: > Does that sound at all like I saw anything in favor of SQL ? ! No but you said: > IIRC, dBase was simpler. so I suggested a simple FOSS database system. Like I said, no worries. I obviously misunderstood what you were looking

Re: FOSS equivalents of *OLD* database and spreadsheet tools?

On 07/30/2020 08:03 AM, Linux-Fan wrote: Richard Owlett writes: On 07/27/2020 10:13 AM, Eric S Fraga wrote: You may wish to have a look at recutils: https://www.gnu.org/software/recutils/ but it may not have some of the functionality you wish (although you could build on it with shell

Re: FOSS equivalents of *OLD* database and spreadsheet tools?

Richard Owlett writes: On 07/27/2020 10:13 AM, Eric S Fraga wrote: You may wish to have a look at recutils: https://www.gnu.org/software/recutils/ but it may not have some of the functionality you wish (although you could build on it with shell scripts & awk, say). I've just begun going

Re: FOSS equivalents of *OLD* database and spreadsheet tools?

On 07/27/2020 10:13 AM, Eric S Fraga wrote: You may wish to have a look at recutils: https://www.gnu.org/software/recutils/ but it may not have some of the functionality you wish (although you could build on it with shell scripts & awk, say). I've just begun going through the manual

Re: [Interim Solution] Re: FOSS equivalents of *OLD* database and spreadsheet tools?

On 07/30/2020 04:21 AM, Eric S Fraga wrote: On Wednesday, 29 Jul 2020 at 04:40, Richard Owlett wrote: On 07/27/2020 10:13 AM, Eric S Fraga wrote: You may wish to have a look at recutils: A database is over-kill for some personal preferences. I had mentioned spreadsheets in original post as

Re: [Interim Solution] Re: FOSS equivalents of *OLD* database and spreadsheet tools?

On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 01:09:15PM -0700, David Christensen wrote: > On 2020-07-29 05:03, Richard Owlett wrote: > > >[A suggested] approach is literally orders of magnitude more than I want. > > > Consider these idealized cost functions for solution technologies A, > B, and C: > > fA(t) =

Re: [Interim Solution] Re: FOSS equivalents of *OLD* database and spreadsheet tools?

On Wednesday, 29 Jul 2020 at 04:40, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 07/27/2020 10:13 AM, Eric S Fraga wrote: >> You may wish to have a look at recutils: > > A database is over-kill for some personal preferences. > > I had mentioned spreadsheets in original post as I had visualized a I am confused. You

Re: [Interim Solution] Re: FOSS equivalents of *OLD* database and spreadsheet tools?

On 2020-07-29 05:03, Richard Owlett wrote: [A suggested] approach is literally orders of magnitude more than I want. Consider these idealized cost functions for solution technologies A, B, and C: fA(t) = t*t + 1 fB(t) = (t/3)*(t/3) + 10 fC(t) = (t/10/*(t/10) + 100 Observe:

Re: [Interim Solution] Re: FOSS equivalents of *OLD* database and spreadsheet tools?

On 07/29/2020 06:13 AM, Joe wrote: [snip] I'd recommend using the right tool for the job. Which is why I'll investigate. Your approach is literally orders of magnitude more than I want.

Re: [Interim Solution] Re: FOSS equivalents of *OLD* database and spreadsheet tools?

ish (although you > > could build on it with shell scripts & awk, say). > > > > A database is over-kill for some personal preferences. Which isn't what you're talking about. > > I had mentioned spreadsheets in original post as I had visualized a > multiple page spr

Re: [Interim Solution] Re: FOSS equivalents of *OLD* database and spreadsheet tools?

On 2020-07-29 10:40, Richard Owlett wrote: A database is over-kill for some personal preferences. apropos of nothing I found this great, clear introduction to Perl/Tk for inputting how many cups of coffee and bacon sandwiches you had.

[Interim Solution] Re: FOSS equivalents of *OLD* database and spreadsheet tools?

onal preferences. I had mentioned spreadsheets in original post as I had visualized a multiple page spreadsheet. One page for the nutrient components of a food. One page that would be used to input date, food, and amount. A page that would have date and total of nutrient for that date. But I coul

Re: FOSS equivalents of *OLD* database and spreadsheet tools?

On 7/27/20 9:59 PM, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: Somebody wrote: But... isn't the tool the least of your problems? The big one being, where are you going to get your nutritional database. (Seems to me that most of what Weight Watchers and Noom do is collect data on millions of products.)

Re: FOSS equivalents of *OLD* database and spreadsheet tools?

On 2020-07-27 22:46, Michael Stone wrote: On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 10:34:39PM +0100, Joe wrote: The OP is in a learning experience, it's what retirement is for. Huh. I thought it was for doing what you want instead of what other people tell you that you "have to" do. That's funny considering

Re: FOSS equivalents of *OLD* database and spreadsheet tools?

Yes, the Harbour project. https://harbour.github.io/ On Mon, Jul 27, 2020, 9:57 PM Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > There used to be an open-sourced version of Clipper, wasn't there? That > was the dBase 3 compiler from a 3rd party. Did that go extinct? > > On Mon, Jul 27, 2020, 8:59 PM wrote: > >>

Re: FOSS equivalents of *OLD* database and spreadsheet tools?

There used to be an open-sourced version of Clipper, wasn't there? That was the dBase 3 compiler from a 3rd party. Did that go extinct? On Mon, Jul 27, 2020, 8:59 PM wrote: > Somebody wrote: > > But... isn't the tool the least of your problems? The big one being, > > where are you going to get

Re: FOSS equivalents of *OLD* database and spreadsheet tools?

Somebody wrote: > But... isn't the tool the least of your problems? The big one being, > where are you going to get your nutritional database. (Seems to me that > most of what Weight Watchers and Noom do is collect data on millions of > products.) From my records in my free format database

Re: FOSS equivalents of *OLD* database and spreadsheet tools?

On Mon 27 Jul 2020 at 15:46:08 (-0400), Michael Stone wrote: > On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 11:39:11AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 11:16:45AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > > > On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 08:09:36AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > For a project of this size

Re: FOSS equivalents of *OLD* database and spreadsheet tools?

On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 17:46:35 -0400 Michael Stone wrote: > On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 10:34:39PM +0100, Joe wrote: > >The OP is in a learning experience, it's what retirement is for. > > Huh. I thought it was for doing what you want instead of what other > people tell you that you "have to" do.

Re: FOSS equivalents of *OLD* database and spreadsheet tools?

On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 22:22:12 +0200 wrote: > On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 04:04:16PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 09:52:28PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > >And, in Greg's defense, he provided some code, something no > > >one of us did -- I'd say this round goes to him

Re: FOSS equivalents of *OLD* database and spreadsheet tools?

On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 10:34:39PM +0100, Joe wrote: The OP is in a learning experience, it's what retirement is for. Huh. I thought it was for doing what you want instead of what other people tell you that you "have to" do.

Re: FOSS equivalents of *OLD* database and spreadsheet tools?

On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 16:04:16 -0400 Michael Stone wrote: > On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 09:52:28PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > >And, in Greg's defense, he provided some code, something no > >one of us did -- I'd say this round goes to him ;-) > > How? The OP request was for something simpler

Re: FOSS equivalents of *OLD* database and spreadsheet tools?

On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 04:04:16PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 09:52:28PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > >And, in Greg's defense, he provided some code, something no > >one of us did -- I'd say this round goes to him ;-) > > How? The OP request was for something

Re: FOSS equivalents of *OLD* database and spreadsheet tools?

On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 04:04:16PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 09:52:28PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > And, in Greg's defense, he provided some code, something no > > one of us did -- I'd say this round goes to him ;-) > > How? The OP request was for something

Re: FOSS equivalents of *OLD* database and spreadsheet tools?

On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 09:52:28PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: And, in Greg's defense, he provided some code, something no one of us did -- I'd say this round goes to him ;-) How? The OP request was for something simpler than SQL (presumably because he didn't want to learn SQL?), so the

Re: FOSS equivalents of *OLD* database and spreadsheet tools?

On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 03:46:08PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 11:39:11AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: [...] > >OK, here's a quick program to show how it might be done. > > The question wasn't "what's your favorite programming language", was it? To be fair, the

Re: FOSS equivalents of *OLD* database and spreadsheet tools?

On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 11:39:11AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 11:16:45AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 08:09:36AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > For a project of this size and scope, a Tcl application with an sqlite3 > database in a local file seems

Re: FOSS equivalents of *OLD* database and spreadsheet tools?

On 7/27/20 11:16 AM, Michael Stone wrote: On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 08:09:36AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: For a project of this size and scope, a Tcl application with an sqlite3 database in a local file seems well suited. Only on the internet can someone ask a simple question and get tcl as

Re: FOSS equivalents of *OLD* database and spreadsheet tools?

On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 11:16:45AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 08:09:36AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > >For a project of this size and scope, a Tcl application with an sqlite3 > >database in a local file seems well suited. > > Only on the internet can someone ask a

Re: FOSS equivalents of *OLD* database and spreadsheet tools?

On Mon 27 Jul 2020 at 11:16:45 (-0400), Michael Stone wrote: > On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 08:09:36AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > For a project of this size and scope, a Tcl application with an sqlite3 > > database in a local file seems well suited. > > Only on the internet can someone ask a

Re: FOSS equivalents of *OLD* database and spreadsheet tools?

On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 11:16:45AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 08:09:36AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > For a project of this size and scope, a Tcl application with an sqlite3 > > database in a local file seems well suited. > > Only on the internet can someone ask a

Re: FOSS equivalents of *OLD* database and spreadsheet tools?

On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 08:09:36AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: For a project of this size and scope, a Tcl application with an sqlite3 database in a local file seems well suited. Only on the internet can someone ask a simple question and get tcl as the answer. :-/

Re: FOSS equivalents of *OLD* database and spreadsheet tools?

You may wish to have a look at recutils: https://www.gnu.org/software/recutils/ but it may not have some of the functionality you wish (although you could build on it with shell scripts & awk, say). -- Eric S Fraga via Emacs 28.0.50 & org 9.3.7 on Debian bullseye/sid

Re: FOSS equivalents of *OLD* database and spreadsheet tools?

Hi, If you decide against a command line system and  decide to go SQL / Klexi way, I want to suggest to you a relatively lesser known integrated database system - http://www.suneido.com. It has been around for nearly 20 years. It is pretty easy to design and stable. It is FOSS. The only

Re: FOSS equivalents of *OLD* database and spreadsheet tools?

On Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 02:45:58PM -0400, Paul M Foster wrote: > Since you probably would like an application with a nice interface > (curses, GUI, web), I'd suggest PHP. The platform for your interface is > in the server and the browser; you just have to write some HTML, which > is pretty easy.

Re: FOSS equivalents of *OLD* database and spreadsheet tools?

On 2020-07-26 03:06, mick crane wrote: On Sat, 25 Jul 2020 14:55:35 -0700 David Christensen wrote: It's been a while, but Linux-Apache-MySQL-Perl worked for me back in the day: I'm not very good at this and wondered how to do it and thought could have things in a hash of hashes. As you

Re: FOSS equivalents of *OLD* database and spreadsheet tools?

On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 06:58:06PM +0100, Joe wrote: On Sun, 26 Jul 2020 10:24:25 -0400 Michael Stone wrote: On Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 12:38:10PM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: >Back in 70's/80's I wrote programs as part of routine job duties. > {8080/8085 assembler, dBase and Paradox} >Neither

Re: FOSS equivalents of *OLD* database and spreadsheet tools?

On Sun, 26 Jul 2020 10:24:25 -0400 Michael Stone wrote: > On Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 12:38:10PM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > >Back in 70's/80's I wrote programs as part of routine job duties. > > {8080/8085 assembler, dBase and Paradox} > >Neither I, nor my employers, classed me as a

Re: FOSS equivalents of *OLD* database and spreadsheet tools?

On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 10:24:25AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > On Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 12:38:10PM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > >Back in 70's/80's I wrote programs as part of routine job duties. > > {8080/8085 assembler, dBase and Paradox} > >Neither I, nor my employers, classed me as a

Re: FOSS equivalents of *OLD* database and spreadsheet tools?

On Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 12:38:10PM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: Back in 70's/80's I wrote programs as part of routine job duties. {8080/8085 assembler, dBase and Paradox} Neither I, nor my employers, classed me as a "programmer". I was "Senior Engineering Tech" or "Junior Engineer". IOW, I was

Re: FOSS equivalents of *OLD* database and spreadsheet tools?

On Sun, 26 Jul 2020 11:06:51 +0100 mick crane wrote: > On 2020-07-26 08:54, Joe wrote: > > On Sat, 25 Jul 2020 14:55:35 -0700 > > David Christensen wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> It's been a while, but Linux-Apache-MySQL-Perl worked for me back > >> in the day: > >> > >>

Re: FOSS equivalents of *OLD* database and spreadsheet tools?

On 2020-07-26 08:54, Joe wrote: On Sat, 25 Jul 2020 14:55:35 -0700 David Christensen wrote: It's been a while, but Linux-Apache-MySQL-Perl worked for me back in the day: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamp_stack I have a couple of early web applications written in Perl, but then I found

Re: FOSS equivalents of *OLD* database and spreadsheet tools?

On Sat, 25 Jul 2020 14:55:35 -0700 David Christensen wrote: > > > It's been a while, but Linux-Apache-MySQL-Perl worked for me back in > the day: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamp_stack I have a couple of early web applications written in Perl, but then I found PHP. There's still no SQL

Re: Fwd: Re: FOSS equivalents of *OLD* database and spreadsheet tools?

s of *OLD* database and spreadsheet tools? > Date: Saturday, July 25, 2020, 03:27:06 PM > From: Miles Fidelman > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > But... isn't the tool the least of your problems? The big one being, > where are you going to get your nutritional database. (Seem

Re: FOSS equivalents of *OLD* database and spreadsheet tools?

On 2020-07-25 13:22, Joe wrote: Shame about that. If you didn't need FOSS I'd recommend Microsoft Access, by far the best piece of software they ever produced (not that it's a high bar). It combines a simple database server, OK for one user, with a visual RAD system to make the user interface.

Re: FOSS equivalents of *OLD* database and spreadsheet tools?

On Saturday, July 25, 2020 01:38:10 PM Richard Owlett wrote: > Back in 70's/80's I wrote programs as part of routine job duties. >{8080/8085 assembler, dBase and Paradox} > Neither I, nor my employers, classed me as a "programmer". > I was "Senior Engineering Tech" or "Junior Engineer". > IOW,

Re: FOSS equivalents of *OLD* database and spreadsheet tools?

On 2020-07-25 10:38, Richard Owlett wrote: Back in 70's/80's I wrote programs as part of routine job duties.   {8080/8085 assembler, dBase and Paradox} Neither I, nor my employers, classed me as a "programmer". I was "Senior Engineering Tech" or "Junior Engineer". IOW, I was not in abject *AWE*

Re: FOSS equivalents of *OLD* database and spreadsheet tools?

On Sat, 25 Jul 2020 12:38:10 -0500 Richard Owlett wrote: > Back in 70's/80's I wrote programs as part of routine job duties. >{8080/8085 assembler, dBase and Paradox} > Neither I, nor my employers, classed me as a "programmer". > I was "Senior Engineering Tech" or "Junior Engineer". > IOW, I

Re: FOSS equivalents of *OLD* database and spreadsheet tools?

On Sat 25 Jul 2020 at 14:45:58 (-0400), Paul M Foster wrote: > On Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 12:38:10PM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > Back in 70's/80's I wrote programs as part of routine job duties. > > {8080/8085 assembler, dBase and Paradox} > > Neither I, nor my employers, classed me as a

Re: FOSS equivalents of *OLD* database and spreadsheet tools?

On Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 12:38:10PM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: Back in 70's/80's I wrote programs as part of routine job duties. {8080/8085 assembler, dBase and Paradox} Neither I, nor my employers, classed me as a "programmer". I was "Senior Engineering Tech" or "Junior Engineer". IOW, I

Re: FOSS equivalents of *OLD* database and spreadsheet tools?

On Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 12:38:10PM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > Back in 70's/80's I wrote programs as part of routine job duties. > {8080/8085 assembler, dBase and Paradox} > Neither I, nor my employers, classed me as a "programmer". > I was "Senior Engineering Tech" or "Junior Engineer". >

Re: FOSS equivalents of *OLD* database and spreadsheet tools?

On Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 12:38:10PM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > Back in 70's/80's I wrote programs as part of routine job duties. > {8080/8085 assembler, dBase and Paradox} > Neither I, nor my employers, classed me as a "programmer". > I was "Senior Engineering Tech" or "Junior Engineer". >

FOSS equivalents of *OLD* database and spreadsheet tools?

Back in 70's/80's I wrote programs as part of routine job duties. {8080/8085 assembler, dBase and Paradox} Neither I, nor my employers, classed me as a "programmer". I was "Senior Engineering Tech" or "Junior Engineer". IOW, I was not in abject *AWE* of computers. *ROFL* Right now I'm working

Re: Simple spreadsheet program.

e than how to crank > a mouse engine in mysterious ways. One would expect that of someone who sees using a mouse as fighting it. But here we have no way of knowing how the OP views using a mouse (which for most spreadsheet operations plays a minor role): whether it makes things easier or speedie

Re: Simple spreadsheet program.

On Tue 13 Mar 2018 at 22:00:00 (-0700), Charlie Gibbs wrote: > On 13/03/18 02:49 PM, Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote: > > >I also long avoided the complexity of LibreOffice Calc, but a modest > >investment of time has left me satisfied with the results. Things I like: > > > >- Flexible CSV

Re: Simple spreadsheet program.

On 13.03.18 10:48, David Wright wrote: > On Tue 13 Mar 2018 at 21:31:00 (+1100), Erik Christiansen wrote: > > Too true. After a couple of hours of failing to get any GUI drawing > > package, not least LibreOffice, to do anything useful, I used Vim to > > textually produce the 8 drawings for my

Re: Simple spreadsheet program.

On 13/03/18 02:49 PM, Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote: I also long avoided the complexity of LibreOffice Calc, but a modest investment of time has left me satisfied with the results. Things I like: - Flexible CSV import/export. I like to manipulate CSV files with grep, perl, and geany, and then

Re: Simple spreadsheet program.

Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote: > I also long avoided the complexity of LibreOffice Calc, but a modest > investment of time has left me satisfied with the results. +1 I use Apache OO, and there is very good documentation such that in 1-2 minutes I could find answer to any of my question and complete

Re: Simple spreadsheet program.

On 13/03/18 16:13, terryc wrote: What is a simple spreadsheet program that can be installed under Stretch. I need to do some work quickly hint, if your answer is LibreOffice or similar read the question again. I'm frustrated that the last few time I wanted to do a simple spreadsheet layout

Re: Simple spreadsheet program.

On 2018-03-13, Joe wrote: >> >> Yes, on a new stretch (print/SSH/standard utilities) with the >> following installed already: >> >> etckeeper cryptsetup dosfstools keyutils gdisk zip apt-show-versions >> aptitude boot-info-script bootlogd dkms exim4 firmware-linux flac >>

Re: Simple spreadsheet program.

On Tue, 13 Mar 2018 10:22:23 -0500 David Wright <deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk> wrote: > On Tue 13 Mar 2018 at 08:59:00 (+), Joe wrote: > > On Tue, 13 Mar 2018 14:13:33 +1100 > > terryc <ter...@woa.com.au> wrote: > > > > > What is a simple sprea

Re: Simple spreadsheet program.

vi', and > > > it has most features that a pure spreadsheet would, but lacks things > > > like graphing and saving in foreign formats. It's very stable and > > > quite easy to use once you've put a little effort into learning it." > > > makes it look as simple a

Re: Simple spreadsheet program.

Oleo is now no longer supported and support for that spreadsheet ended in 2001. However there is good news. A program called neoleo can be found and built and neoleo is the successor to oleo and is under active support. The neoleo program can work in text or graphics now. I doubt debian

Re: Simple spreadsheet program.

On Tue 13 Mar 2018 at 08:59:00 (+), Joe wrote: > On Tue, 13 Mar 2018 14:13:33 +1100 > terryc <ter...@woa.com.au> wrote: > > > What is a simple spreadsheet program that can be installed under > > Stretch. I need to do some work quickly > > > > hint, i

Re: Simple spreadsheet program.

> An alternative is org mode in Emacs if you have Emacs already > installed. Simple spreadsheet capabilities in tables. There's also SES, also part of Emacs (i.e. C-x C-f .ses RET should get you started). And Emacs being what it is, there's also the Dismal package, which you can instal

Re: Simple spreadsheet program.

terryc wrote: > What is a simple spreadsheet program that can be installed under > Stretch. I need to do some work quickly Package: sc Source: sc (7.16-4) Version: 7.16-4+b2 Installed-Size: 440 Maintainer: Adam Majer <ad...@zombino.com> Architecture: amd64 Depends: libc6 (>= 2.1

Re: Simple spreadsheet program.

On Tuesday, 13 Mar 2018 at 14:13, terryc wrote: > What is a simple spreadsheet program that can be installed under > Stretch. I need to do some work quickly I already mentioned sc. An alternative is org mode in Emacs if you have Emacs already installed. Simple spreadsheet capabilities in

Re: Simple spreadsheet program.

On 13.03.18 09:59, Joe wrote: > On Tue, 13 Mar 2018 20:42:08 +1100 > Erik Christiansen <dva...@internode.on.net> wrote: > > An sc description: "Its keybindings are familiar to users of 'vi', and > > it has most features that a pure spreadsheet would, but lacks things

Re: Simple spreadsheet program.

On Tue, 13 Mar 2018 20:42:08 +1100 Erik Christiansen <dva...@internode.on.net> wrote: > On 13.03.18 08:59, Joe wrote: > > I'm not aware of a 'simple' spreadsheet, as it is the kind of > > application that begs for feature-creep. Synaptic turns up sc, > >

Re: Simple spreadsheet program.

Years ago I used to work with GNU Oleo in a text terminal. https://www.gnu.org/software/oleo/oleo.html I see it's been removed from Debian in 2009 though. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=526212 Best regards Tomaž

Re: Simple spreadsheet program.

On 13.03.18 08:59, Joe wrote: > I'm not aware of a 'simple' spreadsheet, as it is the kind of > application that begs for feature-creep. Synaptic turns up sc, which I > know nothing about, but the description doesn't look compatible with > 'simple', unless the user interfac

Re: Simple spreadsheet program.

On Tue, 13 Mar 2018 14:13:33 +1100 terryc <ter...@woa.com.au> wrote: > What is a simple spreadsheet program that can be installed under > Stretch. I need to do some work quickly > > hint, if your answer is LibreOffice or similar read the question > again. I'm frustrated tha

Re: Simple spreadsheet program.

On Tuesday, 13 Mar 2018 at 14:13, terryc wrote: > What is a simple spreadsheet program that can be installed under > Stretch. I need to do some work quickly sc works well and is indeed simple. not graphical. -- Eric S Fraga via Emacs 27.0.50 & org 9.1.6 on Debian buster/sid sig

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terryc wrote: > hint, if your answer is LibreOffice or similar read the question again. > I'm frustrated that the last few time I wanted to do a simple > spreadsheet layout, it was easier and faster to craft a LaTex document > then try and unfathom LibreOffice methods. Windows + MS Office :D

Re: Simple spreadsheet program.

On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 02:13:33PM +1100, terryc wrote: > What is a simple spreadsheet program that can be installed under > Stretch. I need to do some work quickly Here's Instacalc, a free-to-use DOS program that I once used heavily. http://www.bttr-software.de/freesoft/dbase.htm#ins

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scim probably ought to answer. On Tue, 13 Mar 2018, terryc wrote: Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2018 23:13:33 From: terryc <ter...@woa.com.au> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Simple spreadsheet program. Resent-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2018 03:14:03 + (UTC) Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debi

Re: Simple spreadsheet program.

On Tue 13 Mar 2018 at 14:13:33 (+1100), terryc wrote: > What is a simple spreadsheet program that can be installed under > Stretch. I need to do some work quickly I use gnumeric myself. As its description says, if you know Excel, then you'll know how to use it. (I use a Window M

Simple spreadsheet program.

What is a simple spreadsheet program that can be installed under Stretch. I need to do some work quickly hint, if your answer is LibreOffice or similar read the question again. I'm frustrated that the last few time I wanted to do a simple spreadsheet layout, it was easier and faster to craft

Re: SCIM - terminal spreadsheet - sc fork

replacement, though, as long as it is backward-compatible. Keeping the old name would be a plus. I just noticed that there is a text spreadsheet called teapot that supposedly can import sc files. I don't see where Debian has packages, but it has .deb packages available for download at its

Re: SCIM - terminal spreadsheet - sc fork

Hello again and thanks for the suggestions. I cannot use the same name because scim is not sc with some new features, nor is an improvement over it, its just another application. It should be entirely compatible with sc, but in the inside, is a completely different app. El 23/02/2015, a las

Re: SCIM - terminal spreadsheet - sc fork

On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 09:01:22AM +0100, Christian Groessler wrote: Why not just keep the original name, sc? I don't think it's actively developed elsewhere, so the new improved version could be distinguished by the version number. That sounds like a recipe for confusion. Some people, no

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