Is it a bug?

Following an update from a working stable Debian installation, to unstable (from an Australian mirror), running startx elicited: X: cannot stat /etc/X11/X (No such file or directory) Trying: strings /usr/bin/X11/X | grep X | more shows /etc/X11/X appears in the

Re: office suite capable of importing/converting applixware aw ag files?

On Mon, Jul 05, 2004 at 08:40:31PM +0100, stephen parkinson wrote: my applix was purchased approx 4-5 yrs ago Last time I looked for an upgrade, it appeared to be no longer supported. (I'd be happy to be proven wrong) i tgz'd the applix dir and now uncompressed on a libranet 2.8.1 box,

Is newsgate used|useable?

After an apt-get install newsgate (woody), there doesn't seem to be any form of doco. Both man and info draw a blank, and: o apt-cache search showed no separate newsgate manpage package. o The only hits, on googling www.debian.org for newsgate, were two long package lists!

Re: Is newsgate used|useable?

On Thu, May 13, 2004 at 11:32:42AM +0100, Randy Orrison wrote: Did you check /usr/share/doc/newsgate? That's the standard place for debian packages to install documentation files. Thank you, Randy! Seems that the little that I have previously installed had executables, and manpages, matching

No ifconfig [Was: no /etc/inittab]

On 14.08.17 16:23, deloptes wrote: > Erik Christiansen wrote: > > > Now, if that brings back ifconfig as well, I won't have to rummage about > > finding which package that might be in. > > > > $ dpkg -S /sbin/ifconfig > net-tools: /sbin/ifconfig

Re: why time in XP is wrong?

On 14.08.17 11:08, Long Wind wrote: > In Debian the timezone for the hardware clock is configured in the > file /etc/adjtime; > >     0.00 14602224559 0.00 >     1460224559 >     UTC > > Edit /etc/adjtime, and change "UTC" to "LOCAL" if you want the hardware > clock to be kept at local

Re: No ifconfig [Was: no /etc/inittab]

On 15.08.17 13:33, Nicolas George wrote: > L'octidi 28 thermidor, an CCXXV, Erik Christiansen a écrit : > > If it's no longer part of the base system, then perhaps the system is > > too base? > > Please ellaborate. Why should ifconfig be part of the base system? With ple

Re: No ifconfig [Was: no /etc/inittab]

On 15.08.17 09:29, Greg Wooledge wrote: > wooledg:~$ netstat -in > Kernel Interface table > Iface MTURX-OK RX-ERR RX-DRP RX-OVRTX-OK TX-ERR TX-DRP TX-OVR Flg > eth0 1500 8254258 0 0 0 7682795 0 0 0 > BMRU > lo 65536 579959 0 0 0

Re: No ifconfig [Was: no /etc/inittab]

On 15.08.17 15:03, Dejan Jocic wrote: > And what exactly do you miss in ifconfig and net-tools package, that you > can not do with ip, which is part of iproute2 package that comes as part > of base system? Around 30 years of familiarity across many *nix flavours. If the package builders are more

Re: no /etc/inittab

On 14.08.17 11:43, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: > hi everybody, > I discovered recently, after re-installing my system with the Debian 9.1 kde > live dvd, that the /etc/inittab is no more present, although > all the documentation I found still mentions it, For example, from the Debian > wiki: > > The

Re: Can debian-live-9.0.1-i386-lxde be made to install from USB?

On 18.07.17 08:46, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Afaik, unetbootin unpacks the ISO and replaces the boot loader software. > Debian discourages its use with live and installation ISOs. > > The Debian ISOs for i386 are ready to be simply copied onto the device > file of the overall USB stick (i.e. to

Can debian-live-9.0.1-i386-lxde be made to install from USB?

After downloading https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/i386/iso-hybrid/debian-live-9.0.1-i386-lxde.iso and putting it on a USB stick with unetbootin, the install spuriously stops due to an obsessive excursion to mount a (non-existent) CDROM. The link to the download page says: >>

Re: Can debian-live-9.0.1-i386-lxde be made to install from USB?

On 18.07.17 08:20, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 10:55:26AM +0200, Dejan Jocic wrote: > > This release of Debian came with buggy live images. It was fixed with > > 9.0.1 live images, or at least it seemed so. > > No, the 9.0.1 Debian live images are still broken when used for >

Re: Can debian-live-9.0.1-i386-lxde be made to install from USB?

On 18.07.17 11:06, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > On the other hand, if you just want to _install_ Debian rather than to > run it as "live" system, then you should for now use one of the > installation ISOs. > E.g. the small one which is just enough to fetch more packages from the > internet: > > >

Re: Can debian-live-9.0.1-i386-lxde be made to install from USB?

On 18.07.17 15:47, Darac Marjal wrote: > Did you read the two yellow boxes at the top of that page? No, it did not register as text, because it was block colour-guified, which my (other side of 60) mind registered as "commented out - do not read". The tiny fontsize visually confirmed that it must

Re: Can debian-live-9.0.1-i386-lxde be made to install from USB?

On 18.07.17 10:29, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 12:14:52AM +1000, Erik Christiansen wrote: > > www.debian.org -> "CD/USB ISO images" > > That's where your eyes go? That's interesting. Only because this time it's an install from USB, and it's under

Can debian-live-9.0.1-i386-lxde be made to install from USB?

On 18.07.17 11:06, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > On the other hand, if you just want to _install_ Debian rather than to > run it as "live" system, then you should for now use one of the > installation ISOs. > E.g. the small one which is just enough to fetch more packages from the > internet: > > >

Apt vs apt-get [Was: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?]

On 20.07.17 03:27, Felix Miata wrote: > David Wright composed on 2017-07-19 23:33 (UTC-0500): > > > On Wed 19 Jul 2017 at 14:57:50 (-0400), Felix Miata wrote: > > >> Did you miss that in Stretch apt is preferred to apt-get? > > > I did. Where does it say that? > > It was a long time ago that I

Re: cups

On 20.07.17 19:51, Pol Hallen wrote: > From client I print (ie: a 300Kb of pdf), in log cups server I see that file > size about 4/5Mb (why?), so the printer before print it I've to wait also 15 > minutes :-/ Is the file for the printer postscript? That is always bigger than the pdf equivalent,

Re: Can "PulseAudio Volume Control" devs be redeemed?

On 22.07.17 13:47, Ansgar Burchardt wrote: > Erik Christiansen writes: > > Aha, if the "PulseAudio Volume Control" window is manually widened, the > > suppressed tabs become visible. Is it then the Debian 9.0.0 distro-smiths > > who have set too small a wind

Can "PulseAudio Volume Control" devs be redeemed?

After two days of trying to google ways to get audio on the hdmi output on a shiny new Udoo X86 running debian 9.0.0, sheer gritted-teeth determination, smacking the walls of the GUI rat's maze lucked onto the deeply concealed interface. On the LXDE desktop, the "Sound & Video" -> "PulseAudio

Re: Can "PulseAudio Volume Control" devs be redeemed?

On 22.07.17 14:23, Joel Rees wrote: > On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 1:51 PM, Erik Christiansen > > > > There is no rational explanation for failing to make all 5 tabs visible. > > > > Erik > > (Who in 30 years of s/w development never let a team member produce crap

Distro redeemable with this fix. [Was: Can "PulseAudio Volume Control" devs be redeemed?]

On 23.07.17 13:33, Martin Read wrote: > The shared data file describing the default window structure of pavucontrol > is /usr/share/pavucontrol/pavucontrol.glade. The corresponding file in the > pavucontrol-2.0 (found in Debian jessie) and pavucontrol-3.0 (found in > Debian stretch) source trees

Re: Can "PulseAudio Volume Control" devs be redeemed?

On 23.07.17 22:00, Martin Read wrote: > There seem to be some other changes to the upstream glade file between > version 2.0 and version 3.0, which have some indirect effect on the window > geometry. Both versions have a nominal default width of 500, yet in the > version in Debian 8 the window

Re: Can "PulseAudio Volume Control" devs be redeemed?

On 22.07.17 09:36, Curt wrote: > On 2017-07-22, Ric Moore <wayward4...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On 07/22/2017 12:51 AM, Erik Christiansen wrote: > > > >> There is no rational explanation for failing to make all 5 tabs visible. > > > > No idea what your

Re: disable orange progress running apt

On 07.08.17 11:26, Greg Wooledge wrote: > I don't understand; what part seems odd? My use of terminals with > white backgrounds? That's fair. Most Linux kids these days seem to > prefer black backgrounds. For the last 30 odd years I've used yellow and green on DarkSlateGrey for everything I

Re: No ifconfig

On 20.08.17 11:41, Gene Heskett wrote: > Having a decent recipe for setting up my local network to ipv6, I'd feel > a lot more comfortable and capable of dealing with ipv6 when ipv6 is the > operating network on the other side of my router. 150 miles away is NOT > on the other side of my

Re: custom keyboard layout - select and middle-click paste in xterm -lc

On 14.09.17 18:48, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 06:35:16PM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > So I've mapped the function (mathematical) symbol to Level3-Shift + ` > > (backtick) - created a custom keyboard layout in > > /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/... > > Further, I just copied

Re: Make CapsLock an additional Escape key - Problem: https://wiki.debian.org/Keyboard advice does not work

On 15.09.17 08:48, Peter Smith wrote: > P.S.: I actually was able to change the keyboard layout later on by > the Gnome Tweak tool, but nevertheless I do not unterstand why the > official information does not work and it should be rectified. It is depressing to see the linux community succumb to

Re: Editing /etc/apt/sources.list breaks update

On 16.09.17 15:44, Juha Manninen wrote: > BTW, the reply address of this mailing list is set wrong. In some > other lists I can click Reply and it goes to the list. Here it would > go to the person who sent the last message. I have to edit the > recipient field. The deficiency lies in your MUA

Re: Editing /etc/apt/sources.list breaks update

On 16.09.17 21:28, Juha Manninen wrote: > On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 4:25 PM, Erik Christiansen > > List-Id: > > List-Post: <mailto:debian-user@lists.debian.org> ... > I use the browser interface for GMail. Ok, it is not very geeky but it > works for me. > I cannot se

Re: getting mail from Exchange/Outlook

On 13.09.17 15:32, Steve Kleene wrote: > My employer is forcing me to shut down my long-time Linux mail server. I > have no choice in the matter. > > My employer uses Microsoft Exchange/Outlook for mail. They have an Outlook > Web App (OWA) that I can access from Firefox, but as far as I can

Delayed list posts [Was: Re: systemd process(es) consuming CPU when laptop lid closed

On 16.10.17 22:12, Glen B wrote: > You’re going to get an e-mail from me in ~10 hours or so saying I > fixed it; for some reason, this mailing list is delaying my emails by > about 24 hours. So much for speedy technology! It was 25.4 hrs for your message: X-Greylist: delayed 91420 seconds by

Editor survival [Was: Recommended editor for novice programmers?]

On 06.09.17 05:31, Nick Boyce wrote: > I don't like to confess to my august and more sophisticated colleagues > here how much code I've written using joe - albeit in the simpler > languages (a variety of Bash scripts, Perl, C, HTML and similar). > There is some syntax highlighting, but no

Re: Suitable text editor [NOT word processor] or workaround?

On 06.09.17 02:31, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Wednesday 06 September 2017 00:09:31 kamaraju kusumanchi wrote: > > The total configuration generally is not a single file, usually broken up > according to its order in the programs bootup, first being the basic > config, then the first of what could

Re: No ifconfig

On 19.08.17 18:40, Brian wrote: > I know this thread has been a long, interesting and involved one but it > included this: > > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/08/msg00798.html > > To remind ourselves (about why net-tools is not in the base system): > > Indeed. It shouldn't, and it

Re: No ifconfig

On 19.08.17 09:26, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Saturday 19 August 2017 04:15:42 Jonathan de Boyne Pollard wrote: > > That is, in fact, what the BSD people did. On FreeBSD and OpenBSD, > > for examples, modern ifconfig has fully functional IPv6 capability, > > with parameters like (to pick just some

Re: network trouble on stretch

On 04.09.17 04:42, Felix Miata wrote: > Erik Christiansen composed on 2017-09-04 18:06 (UTC+1000): > > > But Fungi4All's solution is so easy to use that I'm won over, and > > have implemented it here. > > I think I started putting net.ifnames=0 on the kernel command lin

Re: network trouble on stretch

On 03.09.17 20:09, Glenn English wrote: > I looked on the 'Net, asking why the interface names were changed. I > found a good reason: sometimes the ethn names aren't reliably > consistent. Fine, I say, you've figured how to make them consistent. > That's no reason to change the names from a

Re: Recommended editor for novice programmers?

On 03.09.17 03:17, Dejan Jocic wrote: > On 02-09-17, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Saturday, September 02, 2017 06:46:33 PM david...@freevolt.org wrote: > > > > > > When, many years later, I developed a greater interest in computers, I > > > was happy to discover that > > > > > >1. I

Re: software to do drawings of houses, gardens, etc.

On 28.11.17 07:58, Eric S Fraga wrote: > On Tuesday, 28 Nov 2017 at 15:37, Erik Christiansen wrote: > > After trying to get various GUI drawing packages to function at the most > > basic level, and failing to produce anything, I'm just finishing the 8 > > drawings for my n

Re: software to do drawings of houses, gardens, etc.

On 28.11.17 21:41, Emanuel Berg wrote: > Erik Christiansen wrote: > > > After trying to get various GUI drawing > > packages to function at the most basic level, > > and failing to produce anything, I'm just > > finishing the 8 drawings for my new house > > bui

Re: software to do drawings of houses, gardens, etc.

On 23.11.17 21:35, Doug wrote: > > On 11/23/2017 05:06 PM, Emanuel Berg wrote: > > Joe wrote: > > > > > What you won't be given is a dialog box with > > > X and Y size and coordinates, and invited to > > > edit them, it doesn't work that way. > > > That's how an object-oriented drawing program >

Re: EDA software.

On 06.12.17 08:57, pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > Hi, > > At https://wiki.debian.org/DebianTinker/Desktop#EDA is a list of > packages for electronics design automation. According to various > documents, Electric, Fritzing and gEDA, at least, can help to create > schematics. I use librecad but

Re: Compatible laptops

On 11.11.17 19:21, Maureen L Thomas wrote: > I do know that this list is for real problems but I am looking to get a new > laptop, 17 inch preferable or an all in one computer.  The problem is I have > only used Toshiba laptops and have had no problems with them.  I do not know > if an all in one

Have managed a CUPS printer addition, but the queue is a black hole.

After a fresh update of CUPS, and a fresh "Add Printer", selecting the first (gutenberg) model option, printing a pdf page from xpdf caused display of GUI message boxes indicating "printing started" and "printing completed", but no printer output. At localhost:631 -> Job Management, "Show all

Re: Have managed a CUPS printer addition, but the queue is a black hole.

Aargh! Apologies for committing a subthread hijack. That wasn't intended. The new CUPS & HP-LaserJet-3050 addition prints the printer self-test page immediately, the CUPS test page after several minutes, but other print jobs not at all. Again, printing from xpdf, the job is queued: $ lpq

Re: How to create a PDF-Printer from the command line

On 07.01.18 00:19, Brian wrote: > On Sat 06 Jan 2018 at 21:02:15 +, Curt wrote: > > On 2018-01-06, Brian wrote: > > unoconv -f pdf text.txt > > 50+ megabytes of the libreoffice stack to install, But yes, that will > do it. A sledgehammer to crack a nut. This may be

Re: How to create a PDF-Printer from the command line

On 07.01.18 13:26, Erik Christiansen wrote: > > This may be more delicate?: https://www.gnu.org/software/a2ps/ Hmmm ... and if ps2pdf isn't yet installed at your end, then an apt-get fixes that. It produces sterling pdf from ps for me - big prints come out perfectly at the local printer. Erik

Re: UID 1000 on Raspberry Pi (Was: Re: Embarrassing security bug in systemd)

On 09.01.18 15:04, Christian Groessler wrote: > I just edited the password file directly, "vipw" and "vipw -s", and renamed > the pi user. When doing that, there is merit in running pwck before any powerdown/reboot, as any illegality in a line stopped processing of all following when I last

[Was: Re: policy around 'wontfix' bug tag

On 05.02.18 09:39, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sun, Feb 04, 2018 at 04:04:34PM +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > > All you describe is convenience for programmatic use. As I explained, > > this parser is meant for interactive use. > > What on EARTH made you think THAT? The fuzzy grammar of the date

Re: policy around 'wontfix' bug tag

On 05.02.18 10:02, Michael Stone wrote: > IIRC it started out as a YACC function in the late 80s, and is now a Bison > (YACC+GNU extensions) library. In that case it has a precise grammar, expressed in BNF (Backus Naur Form), though the lexer (I've always used lex together with yacc/bison) could

Re: Ethernet is not started at boot

On 07.02.18 12:13, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Wed, Feb 07, 2018 at 09:58:55PM +1100, Erik Christiansen wrote: > > Michelle, that netmask is 0b1001 , which is > > the first I have ever seen with a hole in it. > > No, that would be

Re: Ethernet is not started at boot

On 08.02.18 08:42, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Thu, Feb 08, 2018 at 01:36:41PM +1100, Erik Christiansen wrote: > > [...] > > > [...] Fastidious fusspotting on minor terminology matters [...] > > Yikes :-) > > May I steal this one when I need it badly? It's es

Re: policy around 'wontfix' bug tag

On 06.02.18 19:16, Richard Hector wrote: > On 06/02/18 18:38, Erik Christiansen wrote: > > Perl is the quintessential write-only language, which with a bit of luck > > will die out before it catches on > > Now you're getting to fighting talk ... :-) Whoops, forgot the

Re: Ethernet is not started at boot

On 07.02.18 09:33, Michelle Konzack wrote: > Good morning, > > Am 2018-02-07 hackte Gene Heskett in die Tasten: > > On Tuesday 06 February 2018 14:07:55 Brian wrote: > >> 1. auto enp0s25 > >> iface enp0s25 inet > >> static address

Re: Firefox too slow when opening new window or typing in the URL

On 17.02.18 10:00, deloptes wrote: > Since couple of months firefox is taking too long to open a new window or > new page. Whenever that happens here, I just clear the cookies & cache with CTRL+SHIFT+DEL. That puts a spring in its step again. Admittedly, my old mobo is too slow for video

Re: Cross-Platform Assembly Language Compilers?

On 26.07.18 08:29, cyaiplexys wrote: > I'd like to try a native compiler but also I would like to have something I > could compile for Arduino (here we go again) and ARM and other CPUs as well. $ apt-cache search avr | more arduino - AVR development board IDE and built-in libraries

Re: Cross-Platform Assembly Language Compilers?

On 30.07.18 08:11, cyaiplexys wrote: > On 07/27/2018 12:31 AM, Erik Christiansen wrote: > > On 26.07.18 08:29, cyaiplexys wrote: > > > I'd like to try a native compiler but also I would like to have something > > > I > > > could compile for Arduino (here

Re: Cross-Platform Assembly Language Compilers?

On 05.08.18 18:59, Erik Christiansen wrote: > If you make it as far as tweaking linker scripts, then the info page is > infinitely more informative than the manpage. s/the info page/the info page for ld

Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository

On 13.08.18 06:47, Richard Owlett wrote: > PREAMBLE: > I've downloaded a .deb file. > I've recently done such an install but don't remember how. > Looking at the man pages for apt, apt-get, aptitude didn't help. > Couldn't come up with useful search term for wiki. > Eventually recalled "dpkg -i"

Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository

On 14.08.18 06:44, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 08/14/2018 01:43 AM, Erik Christiansen wrote: > > The whole thing is just a plain text file, edited and read with Vim, > > using multi-level folding, so it all presents as a one-page TOC. My > > version is probably of limit

Re: Please help with error message

On 07.08.18 09:05, Rodolfo Medina wrote: > dpkg: warning: 'ldconfig' not found in PATH or not executable > dpkg: warning: 'start-stop-daemon' not found in PATH or not executable > dpkg: error: 2 expected programs not found in PATH or not executable > Note: root's PATH should usually contain

Re: mailing list vs "the futur"

On 10.08.18 11:46, Dan Purgert wrote: > Rich Kulawiec wrote: > To expand on that with my own personal prejudice -- the people using > these "sub-par" tools are also the ones who're the cause of some of the > existent (modern?) problems with mailing lists. > > Namely: > > - HTML Messages > -

Re: df -h shows insufficient precision

On 26.08.18 12:25, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > A regular itchy annoyance for years now: > > df shows bytes, df -h shows only one decimal place, so e.g. on a > 1.8TiB drive "1.6T" is the free space, but that resolution/ precision > is insufficient. For more than 3 decades I've just used "df -k". OK,

Re: Cannot Install/Uninstall sendmail

On 29.08.18 11:57, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > However both sendmail and update-inetd are orphaned at the moment (no > regular maintainers, although Andreas Beckmann has done a lot of work > via the QA team) After favouring sendmail for a decade and a half, I thought I was slow to switch to postfix

Re: Arduino and Python or gcc compiler?

On 22.07.18 10:29, cyaiplexys wrote: > I think my mindset also came from my days of trying to program the WowWee > RoboSapien RS Media (ARM/Linux with Java). That was like a fully > programmable computer and robot all in one. Then the full arduino environment will be more comfortable than raw C

Survival Notes [Was: Re: If not "newbie" then ????

On 21.07.18 10:42, Richard Owlett wrote: > P.S. I've saved ~6 years of useful posts from this group. I've been trying > to figure out how to organize it in order to create a QWSBFA rather than a > FAQ. QWSBFA=="Questions Which Should Be Frequently Asked" ;/ There are so many paths that people

Re: If not "newbie" then ????

On 23.07.18 10:28, Eric S Fraga wrote: > On Sunday, 22 Jul 2018 at 05:39, Tom Browder wrote: > > Sounds like there are a lot of fellow travelers here. If you lean > > more towards loving programming as I do (started in FORTRAN IV in > > 1961), you might check out the new world of Perl 6

Re: File with weird permissions, impossible to delete

On 11.09.18 13:52, Pétùr wrote: > I have some files, with weird permissions: > > # ls -la > d-wS--S--T 2 1061270772 2605320832 4096 oct. 7 2412 index.html OK, you have the suid, sgid, and sticky bits set, and it's a directory. Execute (directory navigate) permission is off. > Cannot delete,

Re: Looking for ratings of all-in-one printers for Linux (Ubuntu in particular)

On 10.07.18 12:53, David Wright wrote: > On Mon 09 Jul 2018 at 19:05:52 (-0400), Dan Ritter wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 09, 2018 at 06:53:44PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > > > On Mon, Jul 09, 2018 at 06:39:29PM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > > > > You're both missing the main point, which is that a

Re: Simple spreadsheet program.

On 13.03.18 08:59, Joe wrote: > I'm not aware of a 'simple' spreadsheet, as it is the kind of > application that begs for feature-creep. Synaptic turns up sc, which I > know nothing about, but the description doesn't look compatible with > 'simple', unless the user interface is similar to

Re: Simple spreadsheet program.

On 13.03.18 09:59, Joe wrote: > On Tue, 13 Mar 2018 20:42:08 +1100 > Erik Christiansen <dva...@internode.on.net> wrote: > > An sc description: "Its keybindings are familiar to users of 'vi', and > > it has most features that a pure spreadsheet would, but lacks things

Re: Simple spreadsheet program.

On 13.03.18 10:48, David Wright wrote: > On Tue 13 Mar 2018 at 21:31:00 (+1100), Erik Christiansen wrote: > > Too true. After a couple of hours of failing to get any GUI drawing > > package, not least LibreOffice, to do anything useful, I used Vim to > > textually produce

Re: Does bash have a tool ?

On 04.03.18 10:28, Richard Owlett wrote: > > I don't have any background in Perl and the last formal course in > programming was in the 60's. > > However awk and/or sed may be what I'm looking for and are well documented. > Your description of nedit is interesting. I'll investigate. I'm on my

Re: Does bash have a tool ?

On 05.03.18 03:06, Richard Owlett wrote: > > As to "manpages not a tutorial" *ROFL* > I'll admit content is there, but ... > I've been referred to vim. Although awk and cousins are probably under the > surface, vim.org is fascinating and accessible to end users such as myself. A good

SOLVED, mostly. [Was: Re: Have managed a CUPS printer addition, but the queue is a black hole.

On 24.06.18 10:04, mick crane wrote: > On 2018-06-23 13:12, Erik Christiansen wrote: > > The new CUPS & HP-LaserJet-3050 addition prints the printer self-test > > page immediately, the CUPS test page after several minutes, but other > > print jobs not at all. Again, pr

Re: any program that search for same files?

On 14.10.18 22:06, Long Wind wrote: > given two directories, the program can print files that are in both > directories > > to make it easy, if file name and size are same, then they are same > > i've to admit my memory is poor, if good, who need such program? > > i'm about to write it in

Re: Micro-report: using Stable without systemd

On 14.10.18 12:36, Patrick Bartek wrote: > FYI: Testing Devuan ascii now for future consideration. No problems so > far. Still like runit though. And it's easy to convert the > default sysvinit to it. +1 (Running pre-systemd debian on laptop and one old desktop, devuan ascii on the new

Re: Online copies of textinfo content available?

On 26.10.18 13:20, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Friday 26 October 2018 10:41:54 Richard Owlett wrote: > > 1. I don't want to install unneeded packages just to find out whether > > or not the package might be useful. > > 2. The info output has an annoying format. A browser acceptable format > >

Re: Online copies of textinfo content available?

On 26.10.18 19:17, Brian wrote: > On Fri 26 Oct 2018 at 13:20:36 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Agreed, a good man page is the best. I've no clue why there seems to be > > an aversion to a man page that has to be scrolled to read it all. All of > > us have up/down arrows on our keyboards, and

Re: versioning file system

On 26.10.18 13:05, David Christensen wrote: > When programming, I tend to do check-in's when I make some kind of progress > (ideally, the code builds and the test suite passes). Yup, the smaller edits of bugfixes aren't going to threaten code stability. > > The trap is when I work for a while,

Re: Online copies of textinfo content available?

On 26.10.18 22:39, Brian wrote: > On Fri 26 Oct 2018 at 15:13:20 -0500, Dennis Wicks wrote: > > I agree, and I have found a lot of info "complete manual"s > > to be exactly like the man page! > > Please give an example. Anyone who has tried info a number of times, in the hope of finding a bit

Re: Help me Linux

On 31.10.18 11:49, Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote: > On 30/10/2018 21:17, P M wrote: > > Although right now I am using Windows but still I feel very enthusiastic > > and energetic with Linux; even I don't know what the reason is. > > You are feeling the potential of open source: a community open to all

Re: Online copies of textinfo content available?

On 29.10.18 10:58, David Wright wrote: > On Sat 27 Oct 2018 at 09:19:15 (+0100), mick crane wrote: > > I made the mistake of printing out man bash once. It's really, really long > > Some of the longer man pages (eg bash, fvwm, video programs) are > rather unmanageable when just presented as flat

OT: The vagaries of English [Was: Re: calibre ebook project?

On 25.09.18 20:19, Brian wrote: > On Tue 25 Sep 2018 at 14:08:23 -0500, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > > > Brian wrote: Note to non-English speakersnatural English politeness > > will get you a nod of the head but there will be incomprehension > > in the mind > > > > That also works with

Re: backintime

On 17.01.19 18:35, David Christensen wrote: > On 1/16/19 2:15 PM, Andy Smith wrote: > > I second the suggestion to learn version control... > > +1 > > I started with RCS. The concepts and commands are straight-forward, but the > granularity is per-file. It works great for managing key /etc/*

Re: About /dev/sr impatience with automatic tray loading

On 11.12.18 09:44, Dan Ritter wrote: > mick crane wrote: > > On 2018-12-10 20:02, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > > For the purpose of sr_drive_status(), the loop is really inappropriate. > > > This function shall obtain the drive status and not wait until the > > > status of the medium is decided. > >

Re: librecad

On 07.12.18 09:17, John Hasler wrote: > Gene writes: > > Thats a huge part of the problem, but theres another fence to > > jump. most of these so-called cad programs cannot generate even the > > most basic gcode. > > I can see not wanting to learn even a small part of a CAD program if all > you

Re: Non-GUI Arduino IDE ?

On 07.12.18 16:42, Jason wrote: > On Fri, Dec 07, 2018 at 05:05:30PM -, Dan Purgert wrote: > > Jason wrote: > > > Does anyone know if there is a console based Arduino IDE available for > > > Debian? I am interested in making a portable programmer that could be > > > taken out on a job to

Re: Looking for a "friendly" e-mail service

On 26.11.18 17:13, Gene Heskett wrote: > Get on the horn and ask your isp if they run a mailserver. Mine does, and > I use it, but when I first started, I had to call their network guy and > have him whitelist all the mailing lists I an on. Here, down under, that's the norm - I've never heard

Re: Looking for a "friendly" e-mail service

On 26.11.18 21:12, Celejar wrote: > On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 09:37:21 -0500 > Mark Neidorff wrote: > > Now, I don't like the webmail interfaces and the limited storage for old > > Limited storage? Who - big or small player - offers unlimited storage > for old emails? There are various values for

Re: ext2 for /boot ???

On 14.09.18 16:10, Michael Stone wrote: > On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 01:23:31PM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > I just find it amazing that the kernel has grown to be so big as to be > > comparable to a complete unix distribution on a workstation of some > > years ago (with GUI, compilers, ...). >

Re: text editors

On 25.03.19 04:38, mick crane wrote: > Is there any text editor, preferably in a terminal that has the facility to > protect lines in the document, not the document itself ? > I've got 2 blocks of "code" that look similar and I keep editing the wrong > one and then it doesn't work. The only thing

Re: text editors

On 25.03.19 07:53, mick crane wrote: > not heard about folding. It can be very handy. I have around 420 pages of notes in one file. They present as a one-page contents table with section page counts. While cursoring down and then across opens a chosen fold, there are several folding levels to the

Re: text editors

On 30.03.19 01:29, deloptes wrote: > John Hasler wrote: > > > I'm not trying to persuade anyone to use Emacs.  I am trying to convince > > people not to be deterred from trying it because of myths such as "You > > can't use Emacs if you can't program in Lisp". > > Sorry John, but all of this is

Re: text editors

On 28.03.19 12:34, rlhar...@oplink.net wrote: > Once you start using Emacs macros and see the benefit, you likely shall find > yourself creating and using numerous macros within each editing session. > You demonstrate once to the robot, and the robot faithfully mimics you, > without error. The

Re: text editors

On 29.03.19 17:26, Erik Christiansen wrote: > " Toggle relative line numbering. > function! NList_toggle() > if == 1 > set nornu" For absolute, elide the 'r'. > else > set rnu " For absolute, elide the 'r'. >

Re: text editors

On 28.03.19 21:32, Matyáš Bobek wrote: > I reckon writing vim extensions in C must be quite obscure... How is it > done? It's not. They are written in vimscript, analogous to elisp. There is a large landscape of add-ons written in the language, and a choice of managers to automate the minor

Re: text editors

On 27.03.19 11:07, mick crane wrote: > On 2019-03-26 19:27, Wayne Sallee wrote: > > I use vim. > > > > Log in as user that will use vim, and run the following command: > > > > cat > .vimrc << "EOF" > > set nosi noai > > set number > > > I have line numbers as the default but copy/paste with the

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