Re: Inclusion of devices in the Info.plist of ccid [was]Re: Pardonnez-moi [was Re: libccid's Info.plist update in Stretch removing Nitrokey Smartcard products?]
Hi Børge, Børge Holen: > Ludovic Rousseau said that? > As I understood it he deal with supported, supposed to work and unupported > list. > I see no reason why a couple of lines could not go in the same bunk as my > own cherry tc1300 lines > > > On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 1:06 PM, Stephan Beck > wrote: > >> Stephan Beck: >>> Hi Børge, >>> >>> Børge Holen: On 18 Oct 2016 16:19, "Stephan Beck" wrote: >>> > The only question then is why are the Nitrokey USB crypto sticks not > included in libbcid's Info.pList file? They showed up on the scene >> years > ago. > > But maybe that's a question that should be directed to the package > maintainer or "upstream" directly. > >>> I had the creator of the libccid add a smartcard reader a couple of >> years ago. Took a week or so before it landed in debians reposatories. >> Painfree process. I to added it manually before that. A cherry card reader if im >> not mistaken... >>> >>> Ah, I didn't know that it's that easy. Thanks for your info. I think >>> I'll give it a try. >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Stephan >> >> Well, Børge, it seems that I wasn't as lucky as you. I asked upstream to >> have Nitrokey included but he says that payment is needed for an >> inclusion in the list of supported readers, as this inclusion requires >> to pass a test suite that he has set up, and he does not do that for >> free (a very respectable decision). >> I deduce from that, that (even in your case) it have to be the >> makers/suppliers who have to be sufficiently interested in having their >> devices included in the list, i.e. interested to an extent that they pay >> for the required tests to be performed. >> >> Cheers >> >> Stephan Ludovic Rousseau IS the (main) author/developer of ccid/libccid driver package (1,2,3) - based partially on existing software of two other developers - the maintainer of Debian's libccid package and contributes to many other smart card driver related packages/projects, really impressive. He wrote that in order to have the Nitrokey tokens (or any other) included in the list of supported readers, he has to charge a fee, because the setting-up and performing of the tests is time-intensive (and I think that this is a legitimate reason). Aren't the list of supported readers and the content of the Info.plist file ( ) basically the same thing? That's what I thought. I received an email from him (well, excluding the possibility of a faked mail) in reply to a request I made. But, certainly I am not allowed to simply publish it on the list without his consent. Cheers Stephan (1) https://pcsclite.alioth.debian.org/ccid.html (2) https://alioth.debian.org/anonscm/git/pcsclite/CCID.git (3) https://www.openhub.net/accounts/LudovicRousseau (4) https://www.openhub.net/p/libccid
Re: Inclusion of devices in the Info.plist of ccid [was]Re: Pardonnez-moi [was Re: libccid's Info.plist update in Stretch removing Nitrokey Smartcard products?]
Ludovic Rousseau said that? As I understood it he deal with supported, supposed to work and unupported list. I see no reason why a couple of lines could not go in the same bunk as my own cherry tc1300 lines On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 1:06 PM, Stephan Beck wrote: > Stephan Beck: > > Hi Børge, > > > > Børge Holen: > >> On 18 Oct 2016 16:19, "Stephan Beck" wrote: > > > >>> The only question then is why are the Nitrokey USB crypto sticks not > >>> included in libbcid's Info.pList file? They showed up on the scene > years > >>> ago. > >>> > >>> But maybe that's a question that should be directed to the package > >>> maintainer or "upstream" directly. > >>> > > > >> > >> I had the creator of the libccid add a smartcard reader a couple of > years > >> ago. Took a week or so before it landed in debians reposatories. > Painfree > >> process. I to added it manually before that. A cherry card reader if im > not > >> mistaken... > > > > Ah, I didn't know that it's that easy. Thanks for your info. I think > > I'll give it a try. > > > > Cheers > > > > Stephan > > Well, Børge, it seems that I wasn't as lucky as you. I asked upstream to > have Nitrokey included but he says that payment is needed for an > inclusion in the list of supported readers, as this inclusion requires > to pass a test suite that he has set up, and he does not do that for > free (a very respectable decision). > I deduce from that, that (even in your case) it have to be the > makers/suppliers who have to be sufficiently interested in having their > devices included in the list, i.e. interested to an extent that they pay > for the required tests to be performed. > > Cheers > > Stephan >
Inclusion of devices in the Info.plist of ccid [was]Re: Pardonnez-moi [was Re: libccid's Info.plist update in Stretch removing Nitrokey Smartcard products?]
Stephan Beck: > Hi Børge, > > Børge Holen: >> On 18 Oct 2016 16:19, "Stephan Beck" wrote: > >>> The only question then is why are the Nitrokey USB crypto sticks not >>> included in libbcid's Info.pList file? They showed up on the scene years >>> ago. >>> >>> But maybe that's a question that should be directed to the package >>> maintainer or "upstream" directly. >>> > >> >> I had the creator of the libccid add a smartcard reader a couple of years >> ago. Took a week or so before it landed in debians reposatories. Painfree >> process. I to added it manually before that. A cherry card reader if im not >> mistaken... > > Ah, I didn't know that it's that easy. Thanks for your info. I think > I'll give it a try. > > Cheers > > Stephan Well, Børge, it seems that I wasn't as lucky as you. I asked upstream to have Nitrokey included but he says that payment is needed for an inclusion in the list of supported readers, as this inclusion requires to pass a test suite that he has set up, and he does not do that for free (a very respectable decision). I deduce from that, that (even in your case) it have to be the makers/suppliers who have to be sufficiently interested in having their devices included in the list, i.e. interested to an extent that they pay for the required tests to be performed. Cheers Stephan
Re: Pardonnez-moi [was Re: libccid's Info.plist update in Stretch removing Nitrokey Smartcard products?]
Hi Børge, Børge Holen: > On 18 Oct 2016 16:19, "Stephan Beck" wrote: >> The only question then is why are the Nitrokey USB crypto sticks not >> included in libbcid's Info.pList file? They showed up on the scene years >> ago. >> >> But maybe that's a question that should be directed to the package >> maintainer or "upstream" directly. >> > > I had the creator of the libccid add a smartcard reader a couple of years > ago. Took a week or so before it landed in debians reposatories. Painfree > process. I to added it manually before that. A cherry card reader if im not > mistaken... Ah, I didn't know that it's that easy. Thanks for your info. I think I'll give it a try. Cheers Stephan
Re: Pardonnez-moi [was Re: libccid's Info.plist update in Stretch removing Nitrokey Smartcard products?]
On 18 Oct 2016 16:19, "Stephan Beck" wrote: > > Hi, > > now I understand what might have happened. > I guess that the Nitrokey USB token wasn't even included in the > Info.plist file, and I probably had added those entries manually long > time ago, about 9 months ago. This is the only explanation I can find > for the result of the diff. > > So, the maintainer might excuse the fact that I was no longer aware of > this. > The only question then is why are the Nitrokey USB crypto sticks not > included in libbcid's Info.pList file? They showed up on the scene years > ago. > > But maybe that's a question that should be directed to the package > maintainer or "upstream" directly. > > Cheers > > Stephan > > Stephan Beck: > > Hi all, > > > > when I updated my Debian testing installation on Friday using sudo > [...] > I had the creator of the libccid add a smartcard reader a couple of years ago. Took a week or so before it landed in debians reposatories. Painfree process. I to added it manually before that. A cherry card reader if im not mistaken...
Pardonnez-moi [was Re: libccid's Info.plist update in Stretch removing Nitrokey Smartcard products?]
Hi, now I understand what might have happened. I guess that the Nitrokey USB token wasn't even included in the Info.plist file, and I probably had added those entries manually long time ago, about 9 months ago. This is the only explanation I can find for the result of the diff. So, the maintainer might excuse the fact that I was no longer aware of this. The only question then is why are the Nitrokey USB crypto sticks not included in libbcid's Info.pList file? They showed up on the scene years ago. But maybe that's a question that should be directed to the package maintainer or "upstream" directly. Cheers Stephan Stephan Beck: > Hi all, > > when I updated my Debian testing installation on Friday using sudo [...]
