Re: Copying a system (Was Re: Directory permissions.)

1997-04-30 Thread Rick Jones

The reason I opted for mc in the first place was for the ability to tag or
untag directories to avoid copying /proc and the /mnt directories.  Since
it had the option to retain UID's and GID's I thought it was a safe
option.  I backfired on me which I think is a bug and will report it as
such.

I will say that other than the directory permissions it worked well.  I
should have followed my usual procedure of dbl checking before I removed
the old file system.

The linuxconf suggestion changed some of the permissions for me.  The
system is working without any errors other than the smail error.

I think I should be able to operate without re-installing and fix the
permissions as I go.

Thanks to everyone for the helpful advice.

On Tue, 29 Apr 1997, Robert D. Hilliard wrote:

 On Tue, 29 Apr 1997 Nathan E Norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 -snip--
  Using the correct tools is important.  David gives you one such tool - I
  personally type the following command in the directory I wish to copy:
  find . -print | cpio -p /target.  This is of course a simplification;
  find and cpio have a lot of powerful options, and people will argue the 
  merits of tar vs. cpio all day.  It works for me.  At any rate, mc is not
  up to the task.
 -snip--
 
  I use a modification of this command that was once recommended on
 one of the comp.os.linux.* newsgroups:
   find old_path -depth -print0|cpio -pdm0 new_path
 
  The '-m' option preserves file modification times, which is nice.
 I don't know how important the other options are, but they work for me.
 Similarly, I don't think the -depth option for find is needed, but I
 still use it because that is what was recommended.
 
  If you copying an entire file system you would cd to root before
 giving 'find .'.  If the file system is mounted du /proc returns zero,
 since /proc is a pseudo file system that (I believe) references
 various segments of the kernel image, but find/cpio copies at least
 30 MB of the kernel image into /proc on the new system, which isn't
 good.
 
  Another problem with issuing this command from a mounted
 filesystem is that it will recursively copy /mnt (or whatever node the
 system is being copied to), which will soon fill your disk.  If your
 old system is on one partition, this can be prevented using the -mount
 or -xdev options to find.
 
  To avoid copying some directories, such as /proc or /mnt, there
 is a -prune option to find (you can't use -depth with -prune), but I
 haven't been able to make it work.  Instead of using '.' for 'old
 path', you can include each directory under / manually.  This is a
 little tedious to type in, but works well.
 
  If you have a rescue partition the simplest system is to boot the
 rescue partition, mount the old filesystem on one mount point and the
 new file system on another mount point, and give the command:
   find old-mount-point -depth -print0|cpio -pdm0 new-mount-point
 If the old file system is on several partitions, some creative
 modifications are necessary.
 
 Bob
 
 
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Re: Copying a system (Was Re: Directory permissions.)

1997-04-30 Thread Rob Browning
Rick Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 The reason I opted for mc in the first place was for the ability to tag or
 untag directories to avoid copying /proc and the /mnt directories.  Since
 it had the option to retain UID's and GID's I thought it was a safe
 option.  I backfired on me which I think is a bug and will report it as
 such.

You could avoid proc and mnt like this:

# UNTESTED #
(cd /  \
 find `ls | egrep -v 'proc|mnt'` | \
 afio -o - (cd wherever  afio -i -))

This should move all directories from / to wherever, ignoring proc
and mnt and preserving all permissions.  You could also use find's
-prune option instead of the nested ls, and you could use find's
-mount option to avoid mounts like /mnt, or -fstype to avoid nfs or
other filesystems.

-- 
Rob


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