Re: Debian on a 128MB USB flash drive

2007-03-11 Thread Joe Hart
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Stefan Monnier wrote:
 I know you said you want a plain Debian, but what about DSL ?
 http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/
 
 My understanding is that DSL offers some things I don't need (like
 a desktop; I'm mostly interestd in this system as a kind of rescue drive)
 and fails to provide me with the ability to just update it with apt-get (I
 don't intend to *ever* reinstall this USB system, instead I'll just keep
 updating against testing, as I've done on all my other systems).
 
 DSL looks pretty neat, but seemed too much based on a LiveCD mindset, so
 I didn't investigate much further.  Maybe it actually offers just what
 I wanted.
  
DSL is desktop based, but it is _very_ small.  I installed it to a
celeron 600 w/ 64 MB ram and a 2.0 gig hard drive.  It worked just fine.
 I am pretty sure you can get it working from a flash drive, providing
of course that your BIOS lets you boot from it.  Once it's installed it
is a Debian system, and you can apt-get remove any of the software you
don't want or need, including X.

Keep in mind that the standard DSL comes with a 2.4 kernel.  If you want
a 2.6 kernel, you need the DSL-N.

Joe


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Re: Debian on a 128MB USB flash drive

2007-03-11 Thread Marty

Stefan Monnier wrote:

I wanted a live Debian system on my USB key.
The Debian Live option is too static for my taste, I wanted a real live
system, upgradable via apt-get etc...

One option is to use a large enough USB drive and do a plain Debian install
on it.  But my USB drive is only 128MB so it was not possible.


I may be missing something, I don't understand the original problem.
From http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch02s05.html.en:

2.5. Memory and Disk Space Requirements

You must have at least 32MB of memory and 110MB of hard disk space.

That's a lot more than a few releases ago, but it still fits into your USB 
drive.


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Re: Debian on a 128MB USB flash drive

2007-03-10 Thread Chris Lale

Stefan Monnier wrote:

I wanted a live Debian system on my USB key.
The Debian Live option is too static for my taste, I wanted a real live
system, upgradable via apt-get etc...

One option is to use a large enough USB drive and do a plain Debian install
on it.  But my USB drive is only 128MB so it was not possible.

I saw someone on the web has done something like that using squashfs+unionfs
and so you can do apt-get update and then to store the resulting state back
on the drive, you do some kind of commit.

I didn't want to go down that route, so instead I've used a plain normal
Debian system, but using jffs2 as a file system, which has the advantage of
being compressed and writable.

The whole story can be found at

http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/~monnier/gnu-linux/debian-live-usb


  


Very interesting!

You say that you have problems with apt-get. Have you tried aptitude at 
the command line? Does that have the same problems?


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Re: Debian on a 128MB USB flash drive

2007-03-10 Thread Guillermo Garron

On 3/9/07, Stefan Monnier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I wanted a live Debian system on my USB key.
The Debian Live option is too static for my taste, I wanted a real live
system, upgradable via apt-get etc...

One option is to use a large enough USB drive and do a plain Debian install
on it.  But my USB drive is only 128MB so it was not possible.

I saw someone on the web has done something like that using squashfs+unionfs
and so you can do apt-get update and then to store the resulting state back
on the drive, you do some kind of commit.

I didn't want to go down that route, so instead I've used a plain normal
Debian system, but using jffs2 as a file system, which has the advantage of
being compressed and writable.


I know you said you want a plain Debian, but what about DSL ?

http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/

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Re: Debian on a 128MB USB flash drive

2007-03-10 Thread Stefan Monnier
 I know you said you want a plain Debian, but what about DSL ?
 http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/

My understanding is that DSL offers some things I don't need (like
a desktop; I'm mostly interestd in this system as a kind of rescue drive)
and fails to provide me with the ability to just update it with apt-get (I
don't intend to *ever* reinstall this USB system, instead I'll just keep
updating against testing, as I've done on all my other systems).

DSL looks pretty neat, but seemed too much based on a LiveCD mindset, so
I didn't investigate much further.  Maybe it actually offers just what
I wanted.


Stefan


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Re: Debian on a 128MB USB flash drive

2007-03-10 Thread Stefan Monnier
 You say that you have problems with apt-get.  Have you tried aptitude at
 the command line?

No.  Googling for jffs2 mmap apt seemed to indicate that it's not specific
to apt-get, so I didn't even bother to try something else.  Besides, I'm
used to apt-get and not to aptitude, so I actually deinstalled aptitude.


Stefan


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