On Fri, Jun 09, 2023 at 05:52:48PM +0100, mick.crane wrote:
> On 2023-06-08 19:08, Mike Castle wrote:
>
> > I couldn't afford a large enough harddrive for the second system, nor
> > ethernet cards (and a local shop was going to charge me $50 to make a
> > crossover cable if I went that route!).
>
On Fri 09 Jun 2023 at 13:12:36 (+0100), James Addison wrote:
> On Fri, 9 Jun 2023 11:52:28 +0100, wrote:
> > On Fri 09 Jun 2023 at 10:44:23 (+0100), James Addison wrote:
> > > (in terms of practicalities: I realize that if there were no
> > > initrd/initramfs, then the kernel would need to know
On 2023-06-08 19:08, Mike Castle wrote:
I couldn't afford a large enough harddrive for the second system, nor
ethernet cards (and a local shop was going to charge me $50 to make a
crossover cable if I went that route!).
swapping around the red and red-white with the green and green-white
> What you should consider is that this initramfs setup allows you to
> pull the disk from your (possibly dead) computer and stuff it into
> some other (with hopefully similar architecture) and you have at
> least a fair chance that the thing will boot, because at initramfs
> time some modules are
On Fri, 9 Jun 2023 11:52:28 +0100, wrote:
> On Fri 09 Jun 2023 at 10:44:23 (+0100), James Addison wrote:
> > On Fri, 9 Jun 2023 at 05:38, wrote:
> > > On Thu, Jun 08, 2023 at 09:57:31PM +0100, James Addison wrote:
> > >
> > > [...]
> > >
> > > > Naturally a block device isn't a game cartridge -
On Fri 09 Jun 2023 at 10:44:23 (+0100), James Addison wrote:
> On Fri, 9 Jun 2023 at 05:38, wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 08, 2023 at 09:57:31PM +0100, James Addison wrote:
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > > Naturally a block device isn't a game cartridge - the former could
> > > contain many different operating
On Fri, 9 Jun 2023 at 05:38, wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jun 08, 2023 at 09:57:31PM +0100, James Addison wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > Naturally a block device isn't a game cartridge - the former could
> > contain many different operating systems, with the potential for
> > dynamic resizing. But it feels like
On Thu, Jun 08, 2023 at 09:57:31PM +0100, James Addison wrote:
[...]
> Naturally a block device isn't a game cartridge - the former could
> contain many different operating systems, with the potential for
> dynamic resizing. But it feels like we haven't landed on the simplest
> way to
On 2023-06-08, James Addison wrote:
> Basically what I'm wondering about is whether there's some kind of
> future utopia where operating system filesystem images -- and the
> process of managing and booting from them -- could be made
> significantly simpler.
You can already do that. Compile a
On Thu, 08 Jun 2023 17:13:30 +0200, Sven wrote:
> On 2023-06-08 15:41 +0100, James Addison wrote:
>
> > Does anyone have experience running Debian systems without using an
> > initramfs?
>
> I did this in the distance past, some 15 years ago or so. Have long
> abandoned that idea, though.
>
> >
On Thu, Jun 8, 2023 at 10:50 AM Greg Wooledge wrote:
> Merged-usr is officially mandated for bookworm, and upgrades to bookworm
> will do the merge, if it hasn't already happened.
End of an era. My first Linux system (predating the existence of
Debian), mounted /usr over NFS over PLIP.
I
On Thu, Jun 08, 2023 at 06:34:36PM +0100, Tim Woodall wrote:
> IIUC trixy will enforce merged-usr, it's optional until then. (bicbw, it
> might be bookworm that will enforce it - all my systems are already
> merged and I don't run testing)
Merged-usr is officially mandated for bookworm, and
On Thu, 8 Jun 2023, James Addison wrote:
Hi folks,
Does anyone have experience running Debian systems without using an initramfs?
I'd be particularly keen to hear about laptop/desktop/server systems,
because I think that a large motivating factor to use initramfs --
across many distributions
On 2023-06-08, James Addison wrote:
> Does anyone have experience running Debian systems without using an initramfs?
>
> I'd be particularly keen to hear about laptop/desktop/server systems,
> because I think that a large motivating factor to use initramfs --
> across many distributions -- was to
On 2023-06-08 15:41 +0100, James Addison wrote:
> Does anyone have experience running Debian systems without using an initramfs?
I did this in the distance past, some 15 years ago or so. Have long
abandoned that idea, though.
> I'd be particularly keen to hear about laptop/desktop/server
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