On Ma, 31 iul 12, 13:21:40, Celejar wrote:
From where? Your network is down and your other machine runs on a custom
kernel.
Plug the regular machine straight into the internet connection (cable
modem) and grab an appropriate kernel.
Devil's advocate mode: sorry, your ISP requires
On Wed, 1 Aug 2012 19:32:15 +0300
Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote:
On Ma, 31 iul 12, 13:21:40, Celejar wrote:
From where? Your network is down and your other machine runs on a custom
kernel.
Plug the regular machine straight into the internet connection (cable
On Wed, 11 Jul 2012 09:05:02 +0300
Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote:
On Ma, 10 iul 12, 22:50:02, Celejar wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 23:22:46 +0300
Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote:
Not quite sure I get you - if my hypothetical router (running x86 HW,
not like
On Wed, 11 Jul 2012 09:04:44 -0400
Gary Dale garyd...@rogers.com wrote:
On 10/07/12 11:28 PM, Celejar wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 23:21:37 -0400
Gary Dalegaryd...@rogers.com wrote:
On 10/07/12 10:52 PM, Celejar wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 19:20:05 -0400
Gary Dalegaryd...@rogers.com
Hi,
Atıf CEYLAN wrote:
For example, my wireless card is not supported by debian wheezy standart
kernel. Also non-free package is not working. So I compile it from
source code and I change some part of the code (because some part of
code is not working with my hardware). So I must make
On Ma, 10 iul 12, 22:50:02, Celejar wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 23:22:46 +0300
Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote:
Not quite sure I get you - if my hypothetical router (running x86 HW,
not like my actual routers that run OpenWRT on arm, and that don't
have lots of extra MB to
On 11/07/12 01:06, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 08:54 -0700, Mike McClain wrote:
Howdy,
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 05:03:12PM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
why people do compiling. i have heard many time that people are
compiling kernel on debian.
what is the reason for this?
On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 19:15 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 6:55 PM, Gary Dale garyd...@rogers.com wrote:
On 10/07/12 08:03 AM, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
This is a very basic question but confusing me for very long. so i
need your help.
why people do
2012/7/10 Muhammad Yousuf Khan sir...@gmail.com
This is a very basic question but confusing me for very long. so i
need your help.
why people do compiling. i have heard many time that people are
compiling kernel on debian.
what is the reason for this? i am using debian for almost 1.5 year
On 10/07/12 11:28 PM, Celejar wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 23:21:37 -0400
Gary Dalegaryd...@rogers.com wrote:
On 10/07/12 10:52 PM, Celejar wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 19:20:05 -0400
Gary Dalegaryd...@rogers.com wrote:
...
Having a portable kernel is a lot simpler than trying to rescue a
On Wed, 2012-07-11 at 09:04 -0400, Gary Dale wrote:
The reason machine A is not bootable is because a minor hardware change
is capable of doing that with a custom kernel.
+1
I almost exclusively use self-build kernels only, because I need them,
but I don't drop too much hardware support,
Am Dienstag, 10. Juli 2012 schrieb Camaleón:
i have heard many time that people are compiling kernel on debian.
That's a good example.
I wanted to have a 3.5-rc5 kernel for testing. And it did compile in about
10 minutes here. ;)
There is no need to tough, if you happy with packages just
Am Dienstag, 10. Juli 2012 schrieb Gary Dale:
People who prepare the individual packages or distributions are
usually the only ones who need to compile code. However, some
brave/foolhardy souls must have the latest code from the developer's
source and compile their own. This is invariably a
Hallo Andrei,
Am Dienstag, 10. Juli 2012 schrieb Andrei POPESCU:
On Ma, 10 iul 12, 15:08:52, Celejar wrote:
And why do I care whether the kernel I compile locally for a
specific machine is portable?
Imagine a situation where due to whatever reason the kernel image of
your router machine
On Wed, 2012-07-11 at 20:46 +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
I did not yet compile a complete KDE
Even compiling something simple as e17 without using a script is a
PITA :D.
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Am Mittwoch, 11. Juli 2012 schrieb Ralf Mardorf:
On Wed, 2012-07-11 at 09:04 -0400, Gary Dale wrote:
The reason machine A is not bootable is because a minor hardware
change is capable of doing that with a custom kernel.
+1
I almost exclusively use self-build kernels only, because I
Am Mittwoch, 11. Juli 2012 schrieb Andrei POPESCU:
why should my work machine kernel need to be
appropriate for my router?
A stock kernel should work for both. IMHO, even if you do use custom
kernels, it's probably a good idea to keep a stock kernel around for
backup and
Am Mittwoch, 11. Juli 2012 schrieb Ralf Mardorf:
On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 08:54 -0700, Mike McClain wrote:
Howdy,
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 05:03:12PM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
why people do compiling. i have heard many time that people are
compiling kernel on debian.
what is
Am Mittwoch, 11. Juli 2012 schrieb Kumar Appaiah:
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 08:54:29AM -0700, Mike McClain wrote:
The kernel provided when you install Linux, Debian included, has to
work on nearly every system out there so it includes drivers for
nearly piece of hardware that can be installed
Am Mittwoch, 11. Juli 2012 schrieb Raffaele Morelli:
2012/7/10 Muhammad Yousuf Khan sir...@gmail.com
This is a very basic question but confusing me for very long. so i
need your help.
why people do compiling. i have heard many time that people are
compiling kernel on debian.
what
Am Mittwoch, 11. Juli 2012 schrieb Ralf Mardorf:
On Wed, 2012-07-11 at 20:46 +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
I did not yet compile a complete KDE
Even compiling something simple as e17 without using a script is a
PITA :D.
I don´t think that building KDE SC would be that complex, there are
Am Mittwoch, 11. Juli 2012 schrieb Martin Steigerwald:
Am Mittwoch, 11. Juli 2012 schrieb Ralf Mardorf:
On Wed, 2012-07-11 at 20:46 +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
I did not yet compile a complete KDE
Even compiling something simple as e17 without using a script is a
PITA :D.
On Wed, 2012-07-11 at 21:11 +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
martin@merkaba:~ ls -lh /boot/{vm,init}*
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 14M Jul 3 16:39 /boot/initrd.img-3.2.0-3-amd64
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 14M Jul 3 16:39 /boot/initrd.img-3.4-trunk-amd64
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 8,8M Jul 3 16:39
People do compilation for many reason.
They want to learn more. They want to run packages from source code.
If you are going to compile kernel from source you can learn more details
about kernel.
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 5:33 PM, Muhammad Yousuf Khan sir...@gmail.comwrote:
This is a very basic
On 10/07/12 08:03 AM, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
This is a very basic question but confusing me for very long. so i
need your help.
why people do compiling. i have heard many time that people are
compiling kernel on debian.
what is the reason for this? i am using debian for almost 1.5 year and
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 6:55 PM, Gary Dale garyd...@rogers.com wrote:
On 10/07/12 08:03 AM, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
This is a very basic question but confusing me for very long. so i
need your help.
why people do compiling. i have heard many time that people are
compiling kernel on
On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 17:03:12 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
This is a very basic question but confusing me for very long. so i need
your help.
why people do compiling.
For many reasons but mainly because there are no binaries available for
your system and you have to get the sources
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 7:19 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 17:03:12 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
This is a very basic question but confusing me for very long. so i need
your help.
why people do compiling.
For many reasons but mainly because there are no
On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 09:55:23 -0400
Gary Dale garyd...@rogers.com wrote:
On 10/07/12 08:03 AM, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
This is a very basic question but confusing me for very long. so i
need your help.
why people do compiling. i have heard many time that people are
compiling kernel
On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 17:03 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
[snip] i have heard many time that people are compiling kernel on debian.
Some kernels with special patches are not always available for Debian.
Sometimes e.g. a kernel-rt is available, but sometimes it isn't. If e.g.
a kernel-rt
On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 21:33 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 17:03 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
[snip] i have heard many time that people are compiling kernel on debian.
Some kernels with special patches are not always available for Debian.
Sometimes e.g. a kernel-rt
On Ma, 10 iul 12, 15:08:52, Celejar wrote:
And why do I care whether the kernel I compile locally for a
specific machine is portable?
Imagine a situation where due to whatever reason the kernel image of
your router machine gets corrupted, then you can just copy the file from
another machine
On Ma, 10 iul 12, 21:33:51, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
I compile software myself for at least three reasons.
1. In the past I often was a tester for e.g. Qtractor and I plan to do
it in the future again. It also is needed, if you wish to do
translations. Until now I never finished a translation.
On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 23:28 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Ma, 10 iul 12, 21:33:51, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
I compile software myself for at least three reasons.
1. In the past I often was a tester for e.g. Qtractor and I plan to do
it in the future again. It also is needed, if you wish to
On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 22:43 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 23:28 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Ma, 10 iul 12, 21:33:51, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
I compile software myself for at least three reasons.
1. In the past I often was a tester for e.g. Qtractor and I plan to do
On 10/07/12 04:22 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Ma, 10 iul 12, 15:08:52, Celejar wrote:
And why do I care whether the kernel I compile locally for a
specific machine is portable?
Imagine a situation where due to whatever reason the kernel image of
your router machine gets corrupted, then you
Howdy,
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 05:03:12PM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
why people do compiling. i have heard many time that people are
compiling kernel on debian.
what is the reason for this? i am using debian for almost 1.5 year and
have been using it on different platform in CLI
On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 08:54 -0700, Mike McClain wrote:
Howdy,
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 05:03:12PM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
why people do compiling. i have heard many time that people are
compiling kernel on debian.
what is the reason for this? i am using debian for almost 1.5
On Wed, 11 Jul 2012 02:06:02 +0200
Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote:
On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 08:54 -0700, Mike McClain wrote:
Howdy,
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 05:03:12PM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
why people do compiling. i have heard many time that people are
On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 23:22:46 +0300
Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote:
On Ma, 10 iul 12, 15:08:52, Celejar wrote:
And why do I care whether the kernel I compile locally for a
specific machine is portable?
Imagine a situation where due to whatever reason the kernel image of
On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 19:20:05 -0400
Gary Dale garyd...@rogers.com wrote:
On 10/07/12 04:22 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Ma, 10 iul 12, 15:08:52, Celejar wrote:
And why do I care whether the kernel I compile locally for a
specific machine is portable?
Imagine a situation where due to
On 10/07/12 10:52 PM, Celejar wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 19:20:05 -0400
Gary Dalegaryd...@rogers.com wrote:
On 10/07/12 04:22 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Ma, 10 iul 12, 15:08:52, Celejar wrote:
And why do I care whether the kernel I compile locally for a
specific machine is portable?
On 10/07/12 10:47 PM, Celejar wrote:
On Wed, 11 Jul 2012 02:06:02 +0200
Ralf Mardorfralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote:
On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 08:54 -0700, Mike McClain wrote:
Howdy,
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 05:03:12PM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
why people do compiling. i have heard
On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 23:21:37 -0400
Gary Dale garyd...@rogers.com wrote:
On 10/07/12 10:52 PM, Celejar wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 19:20:05 -0400
Gary Dalegaryd...@rogers.com wrote:
...
Having a portable kernel is a lot simpler than trying to rescue a
non-bootable machine from a live
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 08:54:29AM -0700, Mike McClain wrote:
The kernel provided when you install Linux, Debian included, has to work
on nearly every system out there so it includes drivers for nearly piece
of hardware that can be installed in a PC.
I always compile a kernel with only the
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