Re: X screen shifts right !!.

2003-04-02 Thread Levi Bard
I have this behavior as well, with my compaq presario 1247 laptop, which
uses a trident cyberblade/i7 vid card.  I am very suspicious that this is
an anomaly with the xf86 trident drivers, as I've had reports of similar
behavior with other trident iN cards.  I have also stfw thoroughly with no
results.  In my experience, the shift seems to happen during periods of
high window change activity - minimizing, restoring, changing focus, etc. 
I've experienced this with enlightenment, which I currently use, as well
as afterstep, windowmaker, flwm, epiwm, and probably others which escape
my recollection; this leads me to believe it's not a wm-specific issue. 
This happens with a variety of pointing devices as well.  I've been
itching to go into the trident driver code and see if I could spot
something, but I haven't found the time as yet.  I will, however, try the
SWCursor option.

HTH,
Levi


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Re: X screen shifts right !!.

2003-04-01 Thread matt zagrabelny
On Tue, 2003-04-01 at 08:34, Dave Restall - System Administrator wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'm having an irritating problem with Debian 3.0 on Intel.  I'm using
 olvwm on top of XFree86 Version 4.1.0.1.  (it is over 12 months old).
 Hardware is on board Trident Microsystems CyberBlade/i1 (rev 0).
 
 Machine runs fine, just a standard install, nothing special.  However
 from time to time (and I suspect it's xscreensaver related) I am unable
 to move the mouse cursor to the far left of the screen (about 5%), I can
 move it to the far right, in fact it goes off the edge of the visible
 area.  Top to bottom is all fine.  I have tried resetting olvwm from
 inside the system but the only certain way to cure the problem is to
 close X _AND_ reset the box.  If you don't reset, the problem is still
 apparent when you reload olvwm.  I have worked through the problem,
 simply by moving the mouse cursor to the right of what I want to select
 and clicking.  If I am lucky and manage to catch the keyboard/mouse at
 the right time (I think this is when xscreensaver is just about to start
 a new sequence) then the cursor reverts back to its normal operation.
 
 The best way I can think of the problem is that the 'virtual' screen has
 been offset to the right of the physical screen by about 5%.  Everything
 else remains the same, none of the applications move.
 
 Has anybody else seen this ?  I've stfw and can't find anything.
 Unfortunately, the problem is not easily repeatable.
 

yes! i got a message from a fellow at xfree86. it reads as follows:

Hi,

I think that I have same problem. My chipset is recognized like
CyberBlade/i1 
and I use trident driver. From time to time left margin of the screen
(about 
1,5 cm wide) becomes inaccessible for mouse pointer. This means that
when I 
want to click button I have to point my mouse to the right of the button
(about 1,5 cm). Only solution for this was to reboot as you said. I
think 
problem is in driver. I have found new driver for trident chipset on
xfree86 
site: http://www.xfree86.org/~alanh/. I use it with my Xfree86 4.2.1 and
for 
now I have not experienced problem again. Have a try and please write
about 
your experience.


i have been using this new driver for awhile now and havent had the problem
it, the only problem is when i update my packages and it gets written over
by the xserver (or whatever) package. hope this helps.

-matt


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Re: X screen shifts right !!.

2003-04-01 Thread Jonathan Matthews
On Tue, Apr 01, 2003 at 03:34:58PM +0100, Dave Restall - System Administrator wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'm having an irritating problem with Debian 3.0 on Intel.  I'm using
 olvwm on top of XFree86 Version 4.1.0.1.  (it is over 12 months old).
 Hardware is on board Trident Microsystems CyberBlade/i1 (rev 0).
 
 Machine runs fine, just a standard install, nothing special.  However
 from time to time (and I suspect it's xscreensaver related) I am unable
 to move the mouse cursor to the far left of the screen (about 5%), I can
 move it to the far right, in fact it goes off the edge of the visible
 area.  Top to bottom is all fine.  I have tried resetting olvwm from
 inside the system but the only certain way to cure the problem is to
 close X _AND_ reset the box.  If you don't reset, the problem is still
 apparent when you reload olvwm.  I have worked through the problem,
 simply by moving the mouse cursor to the right of what I want to select
 and clicking.  If I am lucky and manage to catch the keyboard/mouse at
 the right time (I think this is when xscreensaver is just about to start
 a new sequence) then the cursor reverts back to its normal operation.
 
 The best way I can think of the problem is that the 'virtual' screen has
 been offset to the right of the physical screen by about 5%.  Everything
 else remains the same, none of the applications move.
 
 Has anybody else seen this ?  I've stfw and can't find anything.
 Unfortunately, the problem is not easily repeatable.

Used to have this myself.
Solution seems (in that doing this solved it AFAICS) to be putting the 
SWCursor line in your X config file.

Here's my compete section -

Section Device
Identifier  Trident Cyberblade 7i
Driver  trident
Option  SWCursor on
EndSection

HTH,
  jc


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RE: X screen shifts right !!.

2003-04-01 Thread Colin Ellis
Sounds like it's the monitor being too clever for it's own good.

Some monitors store positional settings per refresh rate.  It might be doing
this and getting stuck between modes.

Try shifting the refresh higher or lower and see if it makes a difference.

Best of luck!

Colin Ellis
Solution City Ltd
http://www.solution-city.com

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To: Dave Restall - System Administrator
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Subject: Re: X screen shifts right !!.


Dave Restall - System Administrator wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm having an irritating problem with Debian 3.0 on Intel.  I'm using
 olvwm on top of XFree86 Version 4.1.0.1.  (it is over 12 months old).
 Hardware is on board Trident Microsystems CyberBlade/i1 (rev 0).

 Machine runs fine, just a standard install, nothing special.  However
 from time to time (and I suspect it's xscreensaver related) I am unable
 to move the mouse cursor to the far left of the screen (about 5%), I can
 move it to the far right, in fact it goes off the edge of the visible
 area.  Top to bottom is all fine.  I have tried resetting olvwm from
 inside the system but the only certain way to cure the problem is to
 close X _AND_ reset the box.  If you don't reset, the problem is still
 apparent when you reload olvwm.  I have worked through the problem,
 simply by moving the mouse cursor to the right of what I want to select
 and clicking.  If I am lucky and manage to catch the keyboard/mouse at
 the right time (I think this is when xscreensaver is just about to start
 a new sequence) then the cursor reverts back to its normal operation.

 The best way I can think of the problem is that the 'virtual' screen has
 been offset to the right of the physical screen by about 5%.  Everything
 else remains the same, none of the applications move.

 Has anybody else seen this ?  I've stfw and can't find anything.
 Unfortunately, the problem is not easily repeatable.

 P.S. This is not an April Fool's message :-)

 Regards,


 Dave Restall
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Hi,

I can only confirm that I too used to get this very same problem on my
old work machine... Never was able to work out what was wrong, it was
crazy cos it would sometimes do and then it would come back to normal.
There were no screensavers being used and it would happen while i was
using the machine with no reason for it changing.

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Re: X screen shifts right !!.

2003-04-01 Thread Eric Sharkey
 Sounds like it's the monitor being too clever for it's own good.
 
 Some monitors store positional settings per refresh rate.  It might be doing
 this and getting stuck between modes.
 
 Try shifting the refresh higher or lower and see if it makes a difference.

No, this isn't the case.  Monitors have no idea where the cursor is.
They display the whole screen image.  It's impossible for the monitor
to cause a relative shift of the cursor to the windows/background.

Eric


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