Re: How to clone a system easily?

2001-02-04 Thread Joachim Trinkwitz
Robert Waldner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Mon, 22 Jan 2001 04:15:52 PST, kmself@ix.netcom.com writes:
 My preference is to do a minimal base system installation, then run:
 $ dpgk --get-selections  file
 ..on the old system followed by
 $ dpkg --set-selections  file
 $ apt-get update; apt-get upgrade
 ^^^
 ..on the new one.
 ...which was exactly what I did today on a colleagues new installation, 
 cloning from mine.
 But apt wasn´t impressed by that, so I reverted to dselect (which I 

Karsten was close by; `apt-get dselect-upgrade' instead of only
`upgrade' would have done the trick without bothering dselect.

Greetings,
joachim



Re: How to clone a system easily?

2001-01-29 Thread Robert Waldner
On Mon, 22 Jan 2001 04:15:52 PST, kmself@ix.netcom.com writes:
My preference is to do a minimal base system installation, then run:

$ dpgk --get-selections  file

..on the old system followed by

$ dpkg --set-selections  file
$ apt-get update; apt-get upgrade

..on the new one.

...which was exactly what I did today on a colleagues new installation, 
cloning from mine.

But apt wasn´t impressed by that, so I reverted to dselect (which I 
didn´t use in ~ 1 year now), and there the [I]nstall - option
did the trick ;)

JIC someone´s going to search the archives for that...

cheers,
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Re: How to clone a system easily?

2001-01-23 Thread Thomas Guettler
On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 08:41:43PM -0600, Gregory Guthrie wrote:
 Thanks,
 but I want a real /total clone; all updates, configurations, links, files, 
 etc. Not just a similar fresh install.
 

In the previous mail you said, that you want to upgrade aour
mothermoard, then you just need to plug your old HD into your the new
one. If you get a new HD, too: Do it like Alan explains in the
Tips-howto. (boot from the old, patition the new one, mount the new on
/mnt). Add l to tar, so that you don't backup /proc. (Assuming all
data is on one partition). Edit /etc/fstab and /etc/lilo.conf. 

This just worked for me two days ago.

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Re: How to clone a system easily?

2001-01-22 Thread kmself
on Sun, Jan 21, 2001 at 10:13:22PM -0600, Gregory Guthrie ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
 I have a working system, and want to upgrade the MotherBoard.
 
 I'd could just move disks, but would rather just clone it, to the new 
 system. How, most easily?
 
 Both are on a loca network.
 
 For example, boot the new system to CDrom, and dd the disks over?

dd works for *absolutely* *identical* systems.  Otherwise it's not
recommended.

You can tar across slightly different disk geometries.

My preference is to do a minimal base system installation, then run:

$ dpgk --get-selections  file

...on the old system followed by

$ dpkg --set-selections  file
$ apt-get update; apt-get upgrade

...on the new one.

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Re: How to clone a system easily?

2001-01-22 Thread Ethan Benson
On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 04:15:52AM -0800, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:
 
 My preference is to do a minimal base system installation, then run:
 
 $ dpgk --get-selections  file

 $ dpkg --get-selections \*  file 

will do a better job preserving the state of the old system, for
example if you removed things like nfsd and such, the latter will
cause it to be removed from the target system where the former will
not.  

 ...on the old system followed by
 
 $ dpkg --set-selections  file
 $ apt-get update; apt-get upgrade

actually apt-get update  apt-get dselect-upgrade 

apt-get upgrade will only upgrade what is already installed, it won't
install packages marked for installation but not yet installed (from
the --set-selections command) 

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Re: How to clone a system easily?

2001-01-22 Thread Gregory Guthrie

Thanks,
but I want a real /total clone; all updates, configurations, links, files, 
etc. Not just a similar fresh install.


Greg


At 04:01 AM 01/22/2001 -0900, Ethan Benson wrote:

On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 04:15:52AM -0800, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:

 My preference is to do a minimal base system installation, then run:

 $ dpgk --get-selections  file

 $ dpkg --get-selections \*  file

will do a better job preserving the state of the old system, for
example if you removed things like nfsd and such, the latter will
cause it to be removed from the target system where the former will
not.

 ...on the old system followed by

 $ dpkg --set-selections  file
 $ apt-get update; apt-get upgrade

actually apt-get update  apt-get dselect-upgrade

apt-get upgrade will only upgrade what is already installed, it won't
install packages marked for installation but not yet installed (from
the --set-selections command)

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Re: how to clone a system?

1999-12-20 Thread Mirek Kwasniak
On Mon, Dec 20, 1999 at 02:15:02PM +0100, rogalsky wrote:
 I have to clone a system without copying it. In other words: How can I
 make a new instalation of a system using the same packages as an already
 installed system?

I think coping filesystem or raw partition (when disks are identical) is
much quicker.

When you need installation by dpkg use

dpkg --get-selections  file 

on one and

dpkg --set-selections  file

on second machine.

Mirek


Re: how to clone a system?

1999-12-20 Thread Brian Servis
*- On 20 Dec, rogalsky wrote about how to clone a system?
 I have to clone a system without copying it. In other words: How can I
 make a new instalation of a system using the same packages as an already
 installed system?
 
 Olaf Rogalsky

On old system issue the command:

 dpkg --get-selections  /tmp/selections

On new system do a new install until it asks you for the
'configuration' of the machine(server, workstation, etc.) and don't
select any or select the custom selection (I can't remember exactly).
Exit and copy the above selections file to the new machine. Then on the
new machine issue the comand:

  dpkg --set-selections  selections

Then run the Update and then Install part of dselect after having set up
your Access method. Or for using apt-get I think you should be able to
do:

  apt-get update
  apt-get dist-upgrade

You will of course have to configure all the packages that are
installed.


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Re: How to clone debian system to another hard drive

1998-07-31 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Fri, 31 Jul 1998, Scott Hill wrote:

[ moving partitions snipped ]

: Anyway,  I take off the A and use my floppy boot diskette and B and i
: can logon
: and seems ok.  I want to boot off the hard drive so I did a /sbin/lilo.
: But can't boot
: off hard drive, just after the fsck check of partitions I get error
: message:
: unable to open an initial console.

Sounds like a missing device file.

: So:  is there a better way to do a clone (like a script) that i could
: not find? Is there
: a better way to get contents of A onto B in step 4?  Did some files not
: go through
: by my cp method.

[ Warning!  You are about to invoke religious debate ]

I've found that `find . -xdev | cpio -padm /mnt' works everytime
device and other strange files included.

So, to copy on filesystem to another, mount the target filesystem on
/mnt .  `cd' to the mountpoint of the source filesystem (you're moving /
`cd /', /usr `cd /usr', etc.)  Then run the above command.  Couldn't be
easier.

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Re: How to clone debian system to another hard drive

1998-07-31 Thread Tom Pfeifer
Scott,

It may help if you read over this mini-HOWTO which covers this exact
topic:

http://sunsite.unc.edu/mdw/HOWTO/mini/Hard-Disk-Upgrade.html

I've used the first copy method (with everything on one partition) many
times with no problem. It also gives several other variations of how to
copy depending on your setup.

One thing to check is if you have a /proc directory on the new disk,
because you usually need to do that manually.

Tom

Scott Hill wrote:
 
 I am quite a beginner.  I am trying to make a clone of my hamm  (disk A)
 to another
 hard drive (disk B).  Here is what I did.
 1. I put them on master/slave and I partitioned B appropriately.
 2. I created file systems on appropriate partitions with mkfs /dev/hdb2
 and so on..
 3. I mount the B partitions on the /mnt  point.
 4. After reading in a multidisk HOWTO that cp is well behaved with
 regard to
 symbolic links I did a
 cp -av /usr/mnt/usr
 cp -av /home  /mnt/home
 and so on for each of the files and directories under /
 (I did not just do the whole disk at one go cause I wanted to avoid /mnt
 and /proc).
 
 Anyway,  I take off the A and use my floppy boot diskette and B and i
 can logon
 and seems ok.  I want to boot off the hard drive so I did a /sbin/lilo.
 But can't boot
 off hard drive, just after the fsck check of partitions I get error
 message:
 unable to open an initial console.
 
 So:  is there a better way to do a clone (like a script) that i could
 not find? Is there
 a better way to get contents of A onto B in step 4?  Did some files not
 go through
 by my cp method.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Scott
 
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Re: How to clone debian system to another hard drive

1998-07-31 Thread Eugene Sevinian

Hi Tom, 
I have read from this mini-howto (point 4.) the following:
...(Note: Contrary to what the man page states, 
the command mkfs -t ext2 -c /dev/hdb1 doesn't check for bad blocks under
any of Red Hat, Debian or Slackware.)...

Is it true for Debian?

On Fri, 31 Jul 1998, Tom Pfeifer wrote:

 Scott,
 
 It may help if you read over this mini-HOWTO which covers this exact
 topic:
 
 http://sunsite.unc.edu/mdw/HOWTO/mini/Hard-Disk-Upgrade.html
 
 I've used the first copy method (with everything on one partition) many
 times with no problem. It also gives several other variations of how to
 copy depending on your setup.
 
 One thing to check is if you have a /proc directory on the new disk,
 because you usually need to do that manually.
 
 Tom
 
 Scott Hill wrote:
  
  I am quite a beginner.  I am trying to make a clone of my hamm  (disk A)
  to another

[...]

 

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Re: How to clone debian system to another hard drive

1998-07-31 Thread Tom Pfeifer
Eugene Sevinian wrote:
 
 Hi Tom,
 I have read from this mini-howto (point 4.) the following:
 ...(Note: Contrary to what the man page states,
 the command mkfs -t ext2 -c /dev/hdb1 doesn't check for bad blocks 
 under any of Red Hat, Debian or Slackware.)...
 
 Is it true for Debian?
 

Yes, it does check for bad blocks on my machine (hamm) with either
syntax

mkfs.ext2 -c /dev/hdxxOR  mkfs -t ext2 -c /dev/hdxx

of the command, as long as the -c is used.  Not sure I understand what
the author is talking about there.

Tom


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