Re: hp laserjet 1200 repeated printer-state-message=/usr/lib/cups/backend/hp failed usb

2010-03-16 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 15 Mar 2010 22:59:46 -0400, Mitchell Laks wrote:

 On 10:49 Mon 15 Mar , Camaleón wrote:
 
 It seems you are using the hp backend and failed what left the
 printer in a paused status.
 
 Thank you. Can you explain what you mean by 'backend' vs 'driver'? 

I'm not a CUPS guru, but what I understand for a backend is a method 
used to connect the printer, a kind of virtual interface that allows 
the communication between your printer and CUPS.

Mmmm, better man backend to get detailed info :-)

 I don't know what I am using. I have loaded many many cups packages,
 including hplip and I have no idea what I am using. I made a list of all
 the debian packages and included it in one of my mails.
 
 I am just blindly following 'cargo cult of cups' and setting options to
 control access in /etc/cups/cupsd.conf and chosing Postscript
 recommended  in localhost:631 because I know that my hp1200 or hp1300
 is a postscript printer.

In brief, for every printer you want to configure in CUPS you have to 
define at least:

1/ A backend connection method: a) local: usb, lpt b) remote/networked: 
socket, ipp, samba c) virtual: fax, pdf, etc...
2/ A driver (PostScript printers are just fine with PPD description files 
but others need drivers to work)

I always avoid using hplip as backend and drivers on my HP laserjet 
printers because I find PPD files a cleaner way to handle them. Hplip 
adds many fancy options (toner and paper status) that I do not really 
need (networked HP printers have their own embedded web server to see 
detailed information on the printer).

So, I would try with another backend (if usb is available in the wizard 
when adding a new printer, or by direct input using lpadmin).

 Have you tried with usb backend? Type lpinfo -v to see the
 available backends for your system. Put here the output.
 
 Rashi:/home/mlaks# lpinfo -v
 network ipp
 network http
 network beh
 network lpd
 direct scsi
 direct hp:/par/HP_LaserJet_1200?device=/dev/parport0 direct hal
 network socket
 direct parallel:/dev/lp0
 serial serial:/dev/ttyS0?baud=115200
 network smb
 direct hpfax

I see not direct hal :-?

 this is currently on the machine that I reverted to direct connection by
 parport parallel port.
 
 I will try to do it on the other machines tomorrow.

So, if using parallel port it just works? Then that means the error comes 
from the hp bakend :-?
 
 /usr/lib/cups/backend/usb
 
 here is the output
 /usr/lib/cups/backend/usb
 DEBUG: list_devices_libusb
 DEBUG: usb_find_busses=5
 DEBUG: usb_find_devices=6
 
 
 (recall I switched on this machine to the parallel port for a while)

Then the output seems normal as the printer cannot be detected on USB 
port.

lpq
 here is the output
 
 HP_LaserJet_1200 is ready
 no entries

O.K.

 Also, the recommended driver for your printer is pxlmono:
 
 http://www.openprinting.org/printer/HP/HP-LaserJet_1200
 
 So why does cups on my machine say Postscript en ?

Because you can select any available driver for your printer, that is, 
you can use pxlmono, hplip or standard postscript. 

In fact, different drivers provide different quality and speed 
printinting output so many people have several printers added using 
different drivers in each of them (one hp 1200 printer instance with 
PostScript driver, another hp 1200 instance with hplip driver and so 
on...) :-)

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Re: hp laserjet 1200 repeated printer-state-message=/usr/lib/cups/backend/hp failed usb

2010-03-16 Thread Mitchell Laks
On 11:40 Tue 16 Mar , Camaleón wrote:
 I'm not a CUPS guru, but what I understand for a backend is a method 
 used to connect the printer, a kind of virtual interface that allows 
 the communication between your printer and CUPS.
 
 Mmmm, better man backend to get detailed info :-)

Cool!!!
 
 1/ A backend connection method: a) local: usb, lpt b) remote/networked: 
 socket, ipp, samba c) virtual: fax, pdf, etc...

this is the first step on the web page where it 'searchs' for possible printers
and usually gives me 2 or 3 different copies of my hp printers. never understood
that till now.

 2/ A driver (PostScript printers are just fine with PPD description files 
 but others need drivers to work)

now i guess you are saying that the backends are failing me.
 
 I always avoid using hplip as backend and drivers on my HP laserjet 
 printers because I find PPD files a cleaner way to handle them. Hplip 
 adds many fancy options (toner and paper status) that I do not really 
 need (networked HP printers have their own embedded web server to see 
 detailed information on the printer).
 
 So, I would try with another backend (if usb is available in the wizard 
 when adding a new printer, or by direct input using lpadmin).

i will look to see what comes up at work this morning and at Dad and Mom's 
tonight

 
  Have you tried with usb backend? Type lpinfo -v to see the
  available backends for your system. Put here the output.
  
  Rashi:/home/mlaks# lpinfo -v
  network ipp
  network http
  network beh
  network lpd
  direct scsi
  direct hp:/par/HP_LaserJet_1200?device=/dev/parport0 direct hal
  network socket
  direct parallel:/dev/lp0
  serial serial:/dev/ttyS0?baud=115200
  network smb
  direct hpfax
 
 I see not direct hal :-?


what is direct hal?

 
  this is currently on the machine that I reverted to direct connection by
  parport parallel port.
  
  I will try to do it on the other machines tomorrow.
 
 So, if using parallel port it just works? Then that means the error comes 
 from the hp bakend :-?
  
  /usr/lib/cups/backend/usb
  
  here is the output
  /usr/lib/cups/backend/usb
  DEBUG: list_devices_libusb
  DEBUG: usb_find_busses=5
  DEBUG: usb_find_devices=6
  
  
  (recall I switched on this machine to the parallel port for a while)
 
 Then the output seems normal as the printer cannot be detected on USB 
 port.
 
 lpq
  here is the output
  
  HP_LaserJet_1200 is ready
  no entries
 
 O.K.
 
  Also, the recommended driver for your printer is pxlmono:
  
  http://www.openprinting.org/printer/HP/HP-LaserJet_1200
  
  So why does cups on my machine say Postscript en ?
 
 Because you can select any available driver for your printer, that is, 
 you can use pxlmono, hplip or standard postscript. 

 
 In fact, different drivers provide different quality and speed 
 printinting output so many people have several printers added using 
 different drivers in each of them (one hp 1200 printer instance with 
 PostScript driver, another hp 1200 instance with hplip driver and so 
 on...) :-)

 Is hplip a backend or a driver???

so which is 'better' or 'faster' the postscript or pxlmono? I guess some for
some stuff and some for others. Any discussion that you have found anywhere
I notice that my printer is slow at times for printing pdfs
Any references that you can share?

 
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You are very helpful! Thank you for any more light you can share!

Mitchell
 
 
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Re: hp laserjet 1200 repeated printer-state-message=/usr/lib/cups/backend/hp failed usb

2010-03-16 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 08:06:21 -0400, Mitchell Laks wrote:

 On 11:40 Tue 16 Mar , Camaleón wrote:
 
 1/ A backend connection method: a) local: usb, lpt b) remote/networked:
 socket, ipp, samba c) virtual: fax, pdf, etc...
 
 this is the first step on the web page where it 'searchs' for possible
 printers and usually gives me 2 or 3 different copies of my hp printers.
 never understood that till now.


I guess this is because of the auto-detection feature. 

CUPS tries to detect the available printers attached to the computer. I 
also prefer a manually selection, but on these days I'm afraid all is 
becoming auto-stuff :-)
 

 2/ A driver (PostScript printers are just fine with PPD description
 files but others need drivers to work)
 
 now i guess you are saying that the backends are failing me.


Yes, the hp backend was giving you the error in the log.
 

 So, I would try with another backend (if usb is available in the
 wizard when adding a new printer, or by direct input using lpadmin).
 
 i will look to see what comes up at work this morning and at Dad and
 Mom's tonight


Anyway, I could live with the printer connected via parallel port. It's 
slower, yes, but if it works, better not touch it O:-)
 

 I see not direct hal :-?


 what is direct hal?


Hal is the glue for USB devices (man hald :-P) but now is being 
deprecated by devicekit or something similar. So I think direct hal 
should detect the USB printers. In fact, I've got it listed (Debian 
Lenny):

***
stt008:~# lpinfo -v
network socket
network beh
file cups-pdf:/
direct hal
network socket://192.168.0.49
direct hpfax
network socket://192.168.0.29
network socket://192.168.0.39
direct hp
network http
network ipp
network lpd
direct parallel:/dev/lp0
direct scsi
serial serial:/dev/ttyS0?baud=115200
serial serial:/dev/ttyS1?baud=115200
network smb
***

That is, in the event you had an Epson/Canon/Brother/.../ USB printer, 
that printer will use the standard usb backend, not the hp one. 
Unless I'm wrong, HPLIP is only for HP devices.


 In fact, different drivers provide different quality and speed
 printinting output so many people have several printers added using
 different drivers in each of them (one hp 1200 printer instance with
 PostScript driver, another hp 1200 instance with hplip driver and
 so on...) :-)
 
  Is hplip a backend or a driver???


X-) Both, I guess. 

It's a bundle, a combo package that integrates itself into CUPS and 
provides PPD drivers *and* HP backend to communicate with HP devices 
(inkjet and laserjet printers and also multifunction devices -those that 
print/scan/copy/fax/.../make cups of coffee-).
 

 so which is 'better' or 'faster' the postscript or pxlmono? 


Try both and test. 

I find that PS drivers provide very high quality images and text but also 
are a bit (a lot) slow when you select higher resolutions (600/1200ppp).


 I guess some for some stuff and some for others. Any discussion that 
 you have found anywhere I notice that my printer is slow at times for 
 printing pdfs
 Any references that you can share?


Ys. I mean, yes! :-)

Complex PDFs are a hell to put into CUPS queue (it lasts minutes!). And 
we have here, at the office, laserjet colour printers with 96 MiB of ram 
but still has nothing to do with the speeds we get from the same printer 
when using PCL6 drivers in windows machines. PCL6 driver is faster that 
PS one and provides very good results, also.

But in Linux, we have to use PS drivers because allows us to manage 
advanced printer controls (duplex, paper trays, watermarks, media 
sources, printer quaility levels...). And when printers have very little 
ram (24MiB), it becomes really slow.


 You are very helpful! Thank you for any more light you can share!


You're welcome :-)

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Re: hp laserjet 1200 repeated printer-state-message=/usr/lib/cups/backend/hp failed usb

2010-03-15 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 14 Mar 2010, Ron Johnson wrote:
 On 2010-03-14 22:28, Mitchell Laks wrote:
 On 22:05 Sun 14 Mar , Ron Johnson wrote:
 3 PCs or 3 printers?
 
 Three different pcs, each with a hp printer directly connected to
 it via a usb cable using cups printing.
 
 Note that cups has always been flakey for me. So I have not infrequently had
 to reinstall the printer driver to get it working over the years.
 I have used debian since 2002 or so. Before that redhat 7.3.
 
 
 Cups has been the opposite for me: rock stable.  Since I run Sid,
 I'm of course constantly getting point upgrades, but as for
 problems: nada.
 
 My system is pretty different though: a Dell 3100cn network printer
 that uses some Lexmark driver.
 

I've always found Cups a waste of time and space, I get better results,
without hassles, using lprng and magicfilter. This is on a number of
different printers - Kyocera, Samsung, Brother  ...

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Re: hp laserjet 1200 repeated printer-state-message=/usr/lib/cups/backend/hp failed usb

2010-03-15 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 12:44:52 -0400, Mitchell Laks wrote:

 I have a Hp laserjet printer connected through a usb backend. I am
 plagued by repeated episodes of failure of the printer to print. It
 works for a while and then it spontaneously stops working. I reinstall
 the driver via the localhost:631 interface and it prints and a day later
 it stops working.
 
 D [14/Mar/2010:11:29:05 -0400] [Job 2806] Printer stopped due to backend
 errors; please consult the error_log file for details. 
 D [14/Mar/2010:11:29:05 -0400] [Job 2806] End of messages 
 D [14/Mar/2010:11:29:05 -0400] [Job 2806] printer-state=5(stopped) 
 D [14/Mar/2010:11:29:05 -0400] [Job 2806] printer-state-message=/usr/
lib/cups/backend/hp failed 
 D [14/Mar/2010:11:29:05 -0400] [Job 2806] printer-state-reasons=paused E

It seems you are using the hp backend and failed what left the printer 
in a paused status.

Have you tried with usb backend? Type lpinfo -v to see the available 
backends for your system. Put here the output.

Then, query the printer to see if it is detected in that port. As root, 
type:

/usr/lib/cups/backend/usb

And put here the output.

Also, the recommended driver for your printer is pxlmono:

http://www.openprinting.org/printer/HP/HP-LaserJet_1200

 [14/Mar/2010:11:39:52 -0400] Unable to remove temporary file
 /var/spool/cups/tmp/.hplip - Is a directory E [14/Mar/2010:11:39:52
 -0400] Unable to remove temporary file /var/spool/cups/tmp/.fontconfig
 - Is a directory E [14/Mar/2010:11:39:54 -0400] [cups-driverd] Bad
 driver information file /usr/share/ppd/postscript/Kyocera/ReadMe.htm!
 E [14/Mar/2010:11:39:54 -0400] [cups-driverd] Bad driver information
 file /usr/share/ppd/postscript/Kyocera/kyocera_ppd_8.2.txt!
 
 
 strange I am using the recommended Postscript en driver and what is this
 about Kyocera?

That message comes from cups-driverd a daemon that is run when you add 
or modify any aprinter. Do not care about that, it seems not related to 
the main problem.

 I am tempted to switch back to the parallel port connection ,,,

If it's USB 1.1 you will get lower bandwith, but if there is no other 
choice...

Side note: if you don't like the web interface, you can always add and 
manage your printers via command line (lpadmin, lpstast...).

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Re: hp laserjet 1200 repeated printer-state-message=/usr/lib/cups/backend/hp failed usb

2010-03-15 Thread Stephen Powell
On Mon, 15 Mar 2010 05:55:05 -0400 (EDT), Anthony Campbell wrote:
 On 14 Mar 2010, Ron Johnson wrote:
 On 2010-03-14 22:28, Mitchell Laks wrote:
 Note that cups has always been flakey for me. So I have not infrequently had
 to reinstall the printer driver to get it working over the years.
 I have used debian since 2002 or so. Before that redhat 7.3.
 
 Cups has been the opposite for me: rock stable.  Since I run Sid,
 I'm of course constantly getting point upgrades, but as for
 problems: nada.
 
 My system is pretty different though: a Dell 3100cn network printer
 that uses some Lexmark driver.
 
 
 I've always found Cups a waste of time and space, I get better results,
 without hassles, using lprng and magicfilter. This is on a number of
 different printers - Kyocera, Samsung, Brother  ...

CUPS has been installed by default since Etch, I think; so I try to
use it.  But there have been times that I have had to revert to
lpr/apsfilter, which is what I used in Sarge.  For example, I was
trying to get an IBM Proprinter II to work.  The Lenny version of
CUPS did not have a driver for it.  The Squeeze version of CUPS did
have a driver for it, but it did not work.  I had to revert to
lpr/apsfilter, which did have a driver for it, and it worked fine.
From there I was able to do some debugging and come up with the
appropriate ghostscript command line options to convert a postscript
file to IBM Proprinter II native printer language.  From there,
I was able to fix the broken PPD file in Squeeze, which backported
to Lenny successfully as well.  (I used three different computers
to test the printer, moving the printer from computer to computer
to minimize re-installs.)

I think part of the problem may be that the CUPS people are trying
to write drivers for old printers that they don't have.  Therefore,
they can't test them.  The drivers in lpr/apsfilter were developed
back in the day when these printers were much newer, and chances
are the drivers were actually tested on those very printers.

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Re: hp laserjet 1200 repeated printer-state-message=/usr/lib/cups/backend/hp failed usb

2010-03-15 Thread Mitchell Laks
On 10:49 Mon 15 Mar , Camaleón wrote:

 It seems you are using the hp backend and failed what left the printer 
 in a paused status.

Thank you. Can you explain what you mean by 'backend' vs 'driver'?
I don't know what I am using. I have loaded many many cups packages, including
hplip and I have no idea what I am using. 
I made a list of all the debian packages and included it in one of my mails.

I am just blindly following 'cargo cult of cups'
and setting options to control access in /etc/cups/cupsd.conf and 
chosing Postscript recommended  in localhost:631 because I know that my 
hp1200 or hp1300 is
a postscript printer.

 
 Have you tried with usb backend? Type lpinfo -v to see the available 
 backends for your system. Put here the output.

Rashi:/home/mlaks# lpinfo -v
network ipp
network http
network beh
network lpd
direct scsi
direct hp:/par/HP_LaserJet_1200?device=/dev/parport0
direct hal
network socket
direct parallel:/dev/lp0
serial serial:/dev/ttyS0?baud=115200
network smb
direct hpfax

this is currently on the machine that I reverted to direct connection by 
parport parallel port.

I will try to do it on the other machines tomorrow.
 
 Then, query the printer to see if it is detected in that port. As root, 
 type:
 
 /usr/lib/cups/backend/usb

/usr/lib/cups/backend/usb

here is the output
/usr/lib/cups/backend/usb
DEBUG: list_devices_libusb
DEBUG: usb_find_busses=5
DEBUG: usb_find_devices=6


(recall I switched on this machine to the parallel port for a while)

lpq
here is the output

HP_LaserJet_1200 is ready
no entries


 
 And put here the output.
 
 Also, the recommended driver for your printer is pxlmono:
 
 http://www.openprinting.org/printer/HP/HP-LaserJet_1200

So why does cups on my machine say Postscript en ?


 
  [14/Mar/2010:11:39:52 -0400] Unable to remove temporary file
  /var/spool/cups/tmp/.hplip - Is a directory E [14/Mar/2010:11:39:52
  -0400] Unable to remove temporary file /var/spool/cups/tmp/.fontconfig
  - Is a directory E [14/Mar/2010:11:39:54 -0400] [cups-driverd] Bad
  driver information file /usr/share/ppd/postscript/Kyocera/ReadMe.htm!
  E [14/Mar/2010:11:39:54 -0400] [cups-driverd] Bad driver information
  file /usr/share/ppd/postscript/Kyocera/kyocera_ppd_8.2.txt!
  
  
  strange I am using the recommended Postscript en driver and what is this
  about Kyocera?
 
 That message comes from cups-driverd a daemon that is run when you add 
 or modify any aprinter. Do not care about that, it seems not related to 
 the main problem.
 
  I am tempted to switch back to the parallel port connection ,,,
 
 If it's USB 1.1 you will get lower bandwith, but if there is no other 
 choice...


 
 Side note: if you don't like the web interface, you can always add and 
 manage your printers via command line (lpadmin, lpstast...).



 
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Re: hp laserjet 1200 repeated printer-state-message=/usr/lib/cups/backend/hp failed usb

2010-03-14 Thread Ron Johnson

On 2010-03-14 11:44, Mitchell Laks wrote:

Hi,

I have a Hp laserjet printer connected through a usb backend. I am plagued by 
repeated
episodes of failure of the printer to print. It works for a while and then it 
spontaneously stops working. I reinstall the driver via the localhost:631 interface

and it prints and a day later it stops working.

D [14/Mar/2010:11:29:05 -0400] [Job 2806] Printer stopped due to backend 
errors; please consult the error_log file for details.


Dumb question: what does the error_log file say?


D [14/Mar/2010:11:29:05 -0400] [Job 2806] End of messages
D [14/Mar/2010:11:29:05 -0400] [Job 2806] printer-state=5(stopped)
D [14/Mar/2010:11:29:05 -0400] [Job 2806] 
printer-state-message=/usr/lib/cups/backend/hp failed
D [14/Mar/2010:11:29:05 -0400] [Job 2806] printer-state-reasons=paused
E [14/Mar/2010:11:39:52 -0400] Unable to remove temporary file 
/var/spool/cups/tmp/.hplip - Is a directory
E [14/Mar/2010:11:39:52 -0400] Unable to remove temporary file 
/var/spool/cups/tmp/.fontconfig - Is a directory
E [14/Mar/2010:11:39:54 -0400] [cups-driverd] Bad driver information file 
/usr/share/ppd/postscript/Kyocera/ReadMe.htm!
E [14/Mar/2010:11:39:54 -0400] [cups-driverd] Bad driver information file 
/usr/share/ppd/postscript/Kyocera/kyocera_ppd_8.2.txt!


strange I am using the recommended Postscript en driver and what is this about 
Kyocera?

I am tempted to switch back to the parallel port connection ,,,

Mitchell





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Re: hp laserjet 1200 repeated printer-state-message=/usr/lib/cups/backend/hp failed usb

2010-03-14 Thread Mitchell Laks
On 16:36 Sun 14 Mar , Ron Johnson wrote:
 
 Dumb question: what does the error_log file say?

!!! That is from the error_log  :)

ls /var/log/cups/
access_log   access_log.5.gz  error_log.1.gz   error_log.6.gz   
page_log.3.gz
access_log.1.gz  access_log.6.gz  error_log.2.gz   error_log.7.gz   
page_log.4.gz
access_log.2.gz  access_log.7.gz  error_log.3.gz   page_log 
page_log.5.gz
access_log.3.gz  access_log.O error_log.4.gz   page_log.1.gz
page_log.6.gz
access_log.4.gz  error_logerror_log.5.gz   page_log.2.gz
page_log.7.gz

the info i quoted  was the info content in the error_log 



 E [14/Mar/2010:11:39:54 -0400] [cups-driverd] Bad driver information file 
 /usr/share/ppd/postscript/Kyocera/kyocera_ppd_8.2.txt!

from another line in the log. 

Note that I never owned any other printer than the HP 1200 (at work a 1300).

I never had this problem with the  lp0 connection. Only with the USB connection.

Trouble is I have 3 machines (hp 1200 or 1300) - work/home/my parents  
3 are now with usb connections. I only have
one parallel connector for home, to revert to.
i have the same failing driver in each place. Cups stops printing 
every few days and I have to
reinstall the driver whenever I want to print. It is annoying to my dad who 
cannot
print when I am not there...

Bad news. 

 
 
 strange I am using the recommended Postscript en driver and what is this 
 about Kyocera?
 
 I am tempted to switch back to the parallel port connection ,,,
 
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Re: hp laserjet 1200 repeated printer-state-message=/usr/lib/cups/backend/hp failed usb

2010-03-14 Thread Ron Johnson

On 2010-03-14 21:12, Mitchell Laks wrote:

On 16:36 Sun 14 Mar , Ron Johnson wrote:
 

Dumb question: what does the error_log file say?


!!! That is from the error_log  :)


I wonder why the error_log would say please consult the error_log 
file.  Very interesting.


[snip]




E [14/Mar/2010:11:39:54 -0400] [cups-driverd] Bad driver information file 
/usr/share/ppd/postscript/Kyocera/kyocera_ppd_8.2.txt!


from another line in the log. 


Here's what my Sid system reports:

$ dir /usr/share/ppd/postscript/Kyocera/
total 144
drwxr-xr-x  8 root root 36864 2009-06-17 20:17:34 ./
drwxr-xr-x 17 root root  4096 2009-03-14 08:17:14 ../
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 12288 2009-06-17 20:17:34 de/
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 16384 2009-06-17 20:17:34 en/
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 12288 2009-06-17 20:17:34 es/
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 12288 2009-06-17 20:17:34 fr/
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 12288 2009-06-17 20:17:34 it/
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  4234 2009-06-16 02:21:34 kyocera_ppd_8.2.txt
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 12288 2009-06-17 20:17:34 pt/
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 19596 2009-06-16 02:21:34 ReadMe.htm

$ file /usr/share/ppd/postscript/Kyocera/kyocera_ppd_8.2.txt
/usr/share/ppd/postscript/Kyocera/kyocera_ppd_8.2.txt: ASCII English 
text




Note that I never owned any other printer than the HP 1200 (at work a 1300).

I never had this problem with the  lp0 connection. Only with the USB connection.


Loose connection somewhere?

Trouble is I have 3 machines (hp 1200 or 1300) - work/home/my parents  
3 are now with usb connections. I only have

one parallel connector for home, to revert to.
i have the same failing driver in each place. Cups stops printing 
every few days and I have to

reinstall the driver whenever I want to print. It is annoying to my dad who 
cannot
print when I am not there...



Understandable.

What exactly is the printer driver you are using?  hplip?

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Re: hp laserjet 1200 repeated printer-state-message=/usr/lib/cups/backend/hp failed usb

2010-03-14 Thread Wayne

Mitchell Laks wrote:

On 16:36 Sun 14 Mar , Ron Johnson wrote:
 

Dumb question: what does the error_log file say?


!!! That is from the error_log  :)

ls /var/log/cups/
access_log   access_log.5.gz  error_log.1.gz   error_log.6.gz   
page_log.3.gz
access_log.1.gz  access_log.6.gz  error_log.2.gz   error_log.7.gz   
page_log.4.gz
access_log.2.gz  access_log.7.gz  error_log.3.gz   page_log 
page_log.5.gz
access_log.3.gz  access_log.O error_log.4.gz   page_log.1.gz
page_log.6.gz
access_log.4.gz  error_logerror_log.5.gz   page_log.2.gz
page_log.7.gz

the info i quoted  was the info content in the error_log 



Having the same problem here with an HP 6P.  This has been going on 
since December.  Error log show what you get  and then some.


Getting 500 Internal Server Error from all but the admin pages so can't
ever see the printer/classes, etc.

E [14/Mar/2010:20:43:21 -0400] [cups-driverd] Bad driver information 
file /usr/share/ppd/postscript/Kyocera/kyocera_ppd_8.2.txt!
E [14/Mar/2010:20:43:21 -0400] [cups-driverd] Bad driver information 
file /usr/share/ppd/postscript/Kyocera/ReadMe.htm!
W [14/Mar/2010:20:43:21 -0400] [CGI] Missing Product in 
/usr/share/ppd/hp-ppd/HP/HP_DeskJet_600C_Photo_Series.ppd!
W [14/Mar/2010:20:43:21 -0400] [CGI] Missing Product in 
/usr/share/ppd/hp-ppd/HP/HP_DeskJet_900C_Series.ppd!
W [14/Mar/2010:20:43:21 -0400] [CGI] Missing Product in 
/usr/share/ppd/hp-ppd/HP/HP_DeskJet_990C.ppd!

--
W [14/Mar/2010:20:43:21 -0400] [CGI] Missing Product in 
/usr/share/ppd/hp-ppd/HP/HP_DeskJet_350C.ppd!
W [14/Mar/2010:20:43:21 -0400] [CGI] Missing Product in 
/usr/share/ppd/hp-ppd/HP/HP_DeskJet_600C_Series.ppd!
W [14/Mar/2010:20:43:21 -0400] [CGI] Missing Product in 
/usr/share/ppd/hp-ppd/HP/HP_DeskJet_630C.ppd!
E [14/Mar/2010:20:43:43 -0400] PID 19209 
(/usr/lib/cups/cgi-bin/jobs.cgi) crashed on signal 6!
E [14/Mar/2010:20:43:50 -0400] PID 19352 
(/usr/lib/cups/cgi-bin/printers.cgi) crashed on signal 6!



Upgraded cups for the last time today.  It great when it works but a 
real pain when it doesn't.  Going back to lpr/magicfilter which always

worked.

Good luck - you are not alone anyway, if that matters.

Wayne


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Re: hp laserjet 1200 repeated printer-state-message=/usr/lib/cups/backend/hp failed usb

2010-03-14 Thread Mitchell Laks
On 21:25 Sun 14 Mar , Ron Johnson wrote:
 Here's what my Sid system reports:
 
 $ dir /usr/share/ppd/postscript/Kyocera/
 total 144
 drwxr-xr-x  8 root root 36864 2009-06-17 20:17:34 ./
 drwxr-xr-x 17 root root  4096 2009-03-14 08:17:14 ../
 drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 12288 2009-06-17 20:17:34 de/
 drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 16384 2009-06-17 20:17:34 en/
 drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 12288 2009-06-17 20:17:34 es/
 drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 12288 2009-06-17 20:17:34 fr/
 drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 12288 2009-06-17 20:17:34 it/
 -rw-r--r--  1 root root  4234 2009-06-16 02:21:34 kyocera_ppd_8.2.txt
 drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 12288 2009-06-17 20:17:34 pt/
 -rw-r--r--  1 root root 19596 2009-06-16 02:21:34 ReadMe.htm


and here is mine
ls /home/mlaks# ls /usr/share/ppd/postscript/Kyocera/ -ltr
total 52
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 19596 Jun 16  2009 ReadMe.htm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  4234 Jun 16  2009 kyocera_ppd_8.2.txt
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root  4096 Nov 10 00:54 pt
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root  4096 Nov 10 00:54 fr
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root  4096 Nov 10 00:54 it
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root  4096 Nov 10 00:54 es
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root  4096 Nov 10 00:54 en
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root  4096 Nov 10 00:54 de

and 

file /usr/share/ppd/postscript/Kyocera/kyocera_ppd_8.2.txt
/usr/share/ppd/postscript/Kyocera/kyocera_ppd_8.2.txt: ASCII English text

 Loose connection somewhere?

i have had flaky printing (ie intermittent stopping of printing)
on all three machines with the standard install of cups.
2 machines are running sid and my dad's is an old 4.0 install because all he 
needs is openoffice and internet.

 Understandable.
 
 What exactly is the printer driver you are using?  hplip?

yep i have that installed and i use
Rashi:/home/mlaks# dpkg -l|grep hplip
ii  hplip3.10.2-1   
   HP Linux Printing and Imaging System (HPLIP)
ii  hplip-cups   3.10.2-1   
   HP Linux Printing and Imaging - CUPS Raster dr
ii  hplip-data   3.10.2-1   
   HP Linux Printing and Imaging - data files
ii  hplip-doc3.10.2-1   
   HP Linux Printing and Imaging - documentation
ii  hplip-gui3.10.2-1   
   HP Linux Printing and Imaging - GUI utilities

and on the sid machine I have:

i  cups 1.4.2-9.1   
  Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - server
ii  cups-bsd 1.4.2-9.1  
   Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - BSD commands
ii  cups-client  1.4.2-9.1  
   Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - client progr
ii  cups-common  1.4.2-9.1  
   Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - common files
ii  cups-driver-gutenprint   5.2.4-1
   printer drivers for CUPS
ii  cups-ppdc1.4.2-9.1  
   Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - PPD manipula
ii  cupsddk  1.4.2-9.1  
   Common UNIX Printing System (transitional pack
ii  cupsys   1.4.2-9.1  
   Common UNIX Printing System (transitional pack
ii  cupsys-bsd   1.4.2-9.1  
   Common UNIX Printing System (transitional pack
ii  cupsys-client1.4.2-9.1  
   Common UNIX Printing System (transitional pack
ii  cupsys-common1.4.2-9.1  
   Common UNIX Printing System (transitional pack
ii  ghostscript-cups 8.71~dfsg-2
   The GPL Ghostscript PostScript/PDF interpreter
rc  gnome-cups-manager   0.31-3+b1  
   CUPS printer admin tool for GNOME
ii  hal-cups-utils   0.6.16-3   
   Utilities to detect and configure printers aut
ii  hplip-cups   3.10.2-1   
   HP Linux Printing and Imaging - CUPS Raster dr
ii  libcups2 1.4.2-9.1  
   Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - Core library
ii  libcups2-dev 1.4.2-9.1  
   Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - Development
ii  libcupscgi1  1.4.2-9.1  
   Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - CGI library
ii  libcupsdriver1   1.4.2-9.1  
   Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - Driver libra
ii  libcupsimage21.4.2-9.1  
   Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - Raster image
ii  

Re: hp laserjet 1200 repeated printer-state-message=/usr/lib/cups/backend/hp failed usb

2010-03-14 Thread Ron Johnson

On 2010-03-14 21:52, Mitchell Laks wrote:

On 21:25 Sun 14 Mar , Ron Johnson wrote:

Here's what my Sid system reports:


[snip]


and 


file /usr/share/ppd/postscript/Kyocera/kyocera_ppd_8.2.txt
/usr/share/ppd/postscript/Kyocera/kyocera_ppd_8.2.txt: ASCII English text


Loose connection somewhere?


i have had flaky printing (ie intermittent stopping of printing)
on all three machines with the standard install of cups.
2 machines are running sid and my dad's is an old 4.0 install because all he 
needs is openoffice and internet.



3 PCs or 3 printers?

*Anything* physically, literally common?  Even something that seems 
minor and inconsequential?


Maybe going through a hub?  Especially an un-powered or cheap hub.

If there's nothing there, and it really does consistently work 
though the parport, then next step is to go to a cups-dedicated list.





I chose the Postscript recommended option in the hp drivers section in cups...


Thank you for your interest Ron, you have been very helpful in the past too!



Appreciate that.

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Re: hp laserjet 1200 repeated printer-state-message=/usr/lib/cups/backend/hp failed usb

2010-03-14 Thread Mitchell Laks
On 22:45 Sun 14 Mar , Wayne wrote:
 Upgraded cups for the last time today.  It great when it works but a
 real pain when it doesn't.  Going back to lpr/magicfilter which
 always
 worked.

If you would post about that, or give me a reference I would be grateful.
I have not used anything other than cups in  8 years...

Thanks
Mitchell

 
 Good luck - you are not alone anyway, if that matters.
 
 Wayne
 
 
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Re: hp laserjet 1200 repeated printer-state-message=/usr/lib/cups/backend/hp failed usb

2010-03-14 Thread Ron Johnson

On 2010-03-14 21:45, Wayne wrote:

Mitchell Laks wrote:

On 16:36 Sun 14 Mar , Ron Johnson wrote:
 

Dumb question: what does the error_log file say?


!!! That is from the error_log  :)

ls /var/log/cups/
access_log   access_log.5.gz  error_log.1.gz   error_log.6.gz   
page_log.3.gz
access_log.1.gz  access_log.6.gz  error_log.2.gz   error_log.7.gz   
page_log.4.gz
access_log.2.gz  access_log.7.gz  error_log.3.gz   page_log 
page_log.5.gz
access_log.3.gz  access_log.O error_log.4.gz   page_log.1.gz
page_log.6.gz
access_log.4.gz  error_logerror_log.5.gz   page_log.2.gz
page_log.7.gz


the info i quoted  was the info content in the error_log 



Having the same problem here with an HP 6P.  This has been going on 
since December.  Error log show what you get  and then some.


Getting 500 Internal Server Error from all but the admin pages so can't
ever see the printer/classes, etc.

E [14/Mar/2010:20:43:21 -0400] [cups-driverd] Bad driver information 
file /usr/share/ppd/postscript/Kyocera/kyocera_ppd_8.2.txt!
E [14/Mar/2010:20:43:21 -0400] [cups-driverd] Bad driver information 
file /usr/share/ppd/postscript/Kyocera/ReadMe.htm!
W [14/Mar/2010:20:43:21 -0400] [CGI] Missing Product in 
/usr/share/ppd/hp-ppd/HP/HP_DeskJet_600C_Photo_Series.ppd!
W [14/Mar/2010:20:43:21 -0400] [CGI] Missing Product in 
/usr/share/ppd/hp-ppd/HP/HP_DeskJet_900C_Series.ppd!
W [14/Mar/2010:20:43:21 -0400] [CGI] Missing Product in 
/usr/share/ppd/hp-ppd/HP/HP_DeskJet_990C.ppd!

--
W [14/Mar/2010:20:43:21 -0400] [CGI] Missing Product in 
/usr/share/ppd/hp-ppd/HP/HP_DeskJet_350C.ppd!
W [14/Mar/2010:20:43:21 -0400] [CGI] Missing Product in 
/usr/share/ppd/hp-ppd/HP/HP_DeskJet_600C_Series.ppd!
W [14/Mar/2010:20:43:21 -0400] [CGI] Missing Product in 
/usr/share/ppd/hp-ppd/HP/HP_DeskJet_630C.ppd!
E [14/Mar/2010:20:43:43 -0400] PID 19209 
(/usr/lib/cups/cgi-bin/jobs.cgi) crashed on signal 6!
E [14/Mar/2010:20:43:50 -0400] PID 19352 
(/usr/lib/cups/cgi-bin/printers.cgi) crashed on signal 6!



Upgraded cups for the last time today.  It great when it works but a 
real pain when it doesn't.  Going back to lpr/magicfilter which always

worked.



Signal 6 is SIGABRT.  I'd file a bug against hplip.

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Re: hp laserjet 1200 repeated printer-state-message=/usr/lib/cups/backend/hp failed usb

2010-03-14 Thread Mitchell Laks
On 22:05 Sun 14 Mar , Ron Johnson wrote:
 
 3 PCs or 3 printers?

Three different pcs, each with a hp printer directly connected to it via a usb 
cable using cups printing.

Note that cups has always been flakey for me. So I have not infrequently had
to reinstall the printer driver to get it working over the years. I have used 
debian 
since 2002 or so. Before that redhat 7.3.

My guess about usb is  only that, a guess . I reverted at home to the parport 
connection
today in frustration. It may simply be accidentally that I switched to the usb
version when I thought I might  get greater throughput and faster printing
than with the 'older' parport approach.

My family is up in arms about this printing so I will need to explore
this idea over the next week or so. 

So today after the switch my computer prints, but that is
not a victory. Let me see if it keeps on printing tomorrow etc. 

The usb connection method  printed the first day also,
it just forgets how to in a day or so... 

I will also check to  see if it is a problem caused by
rebooting, Dad keeps rebooting his machine, while I do not reboot nor at work.

 
 *Anything* physically, literally common?  Even something that seems
 minor and inconsequential?
 
 Maybe going through a hub?  Especially an un-powered or cheap hub.
nope. direct usb connect.
 
 If there's nothing there, and it really does consistently work
 though the parport, then next step is to go to a cups-dedicated
 list.

yeah i guess so. but googling  i find random notes that sound similar
all over the web. I have always had a love hate thing with cups. Nice when
it works, but so finicky and difficult when it doesn't. Blame apple :).

 Appreciate that.
 
Keep up the good work!


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Re: hp laserjet 1200 repeated printer-state-message=/usr/lib/cups/backend/hp failed usb

2010-03-14 Thread Ron Johnson

On 2010-03-14 22:28, Mitchell Laks wrote:

On 22:05 Sun 14 Mar , Ron Johnson wrote:

3 PCs or 3 printers?


Three different pcs, each with a hp printer directly connected to it via a usb 
cable using cups printing.


Note that cups has always been flakey for me. So I have not infrequently had
to reinstall the printer driver to get it working over the years. I have used debian 
since 2002 or so. Before that redhat 7.3.




Cups has been the opposite for me: rock stable.  Since I run Sid, 
I'm of course constantly getting point upgrades, but as for 
problems: nada.


My system is pretty different though: a Dell 3100cn network printer 
that uses some Lexmark driver.


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