.
Adding workload to DSA isn't the plan. I also have other persons that
raised their hands as volunteers. Let's discuss this after the vote ! :)
Cheers,
Thomas Goirand (zigo)
On 3/27/24 11:25, Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote:
Hi,
Thomas Goirand wrote on 27/03/2024 at 00:24:30+0100:
Hi,
As you know, there's a large amount of money sleeping in SPI account
for Debian. Do you have ideas on how to spend it?
Would you be ok spending 100k USD on buying hardware for a new
runners? It wouldn't be hard to hook them.
Cheers,
Thomas Goirand (zigo)
P.S: To other DDs reading: feel free to voice your opinion too.
ght its wording in each state. Seen the other way around: it's
possible that the implementation as a law in each country is worse than
then directive itself, we must pay attention to it (it's probably even
more difficult for us this way, as there will be 27 implementations to
take care of).
Cheers,
Thomas Goirand (zigo)
we need to use stronger words.
In the absence of something better, I'll still vote for the above...
Cheers,
Thomas Goirand (zigo)
chnically, there's no such thing
as a "EU law", and we're being played like every time (to make us
believe we're still in a democratic world): each country *must* (yeah,
no choice...) make its own law out of this Directive.
Cheers,
Thomas Goirand (zigo)
?
Thomas Goirand (zigo)
On 9/14/22 17:00, Holger Levsen wrote:
hi,
I'm looking seconds for this new proposal below, which is like
proposal E plus *also* offering free installer image.
Rationale: we should keep producing fully freely distributable
Debian installer images, for those cases were some included non-free
that these Dell servers do not need firmware though. When
equipped with QLogic, Intel or Broadcom NICs, you *must* install the
non-free firmware packages, as I wrote earlier (and the CPU microcode
updates too...).
Cheers,
Thomas Goirand (zigo)
om
boards at all costs).
Also, from the security point of view, and when running VMs on a public
cloud, it's not reasonable to avoid updating the microcode for CPUs.
Note: we don't use d-i for setting-up servers.
Cheers,
Thomas Goirand (zigo)
[5] https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2022/04/msg00214.html
Seconded.
Ansgar
Seconded.
Thomas Goirand (zigo)
nt to make such a statement and vote against
your above text.
Cheers,
Thomas Goirand (zigo)
[1] https://www.debian.org/vote/2021/vote_002
not knowing the implementation details, and the fact we
voted only on one property of the vote).
Please do not make it even more painful asking for another vote (because
you do not like the outcome).
Cheers,
Thomas Goirand (zigo)
DDs are
invited to work on accessibility issues? I'm not volunteering for
organizing such a day, just giving the idea for the accessibility team
to pick-up... I'd volunteer a day per year, if I'm given a list of tasks
I can act on!
Cheers,
Thomas Goirand (zigo)
On 3/5/22 21:07, Holger Levsen wrote:
And I'd call this 'rushed' still. If someone promises foo without explaining
how foo should be achieved and then a vote is held to mandate foo, I'd call
this 'rushed'. Even if there has been talk about foo for a year, which btw,
by Debian standards, is not a
o want to
know about the full details of implementation to make sure we have 4-,
5- and 6-, which we currently have with a fully public voting system.
Just voting on "I want my vote to be secret" without having any
information about the other properties is IMO completely silly and
loo
see why I would want to hide my opinion from the other DDs.
Going this path, I don't think we would need to vote on it. Please, if
possible, avoid too much voting if we have other ways to fix the issue:
this is exhausting everyone.
Cheers,
Thomas Goirand (zigo)
wondering if there is anything we can do to motivate more
people to vote.
It's understandable that there is no motivation to choose between two very
long and complicated (and similar but maybe not?) changes.
Yeah. The wording is kind of hard (and boring) to read.
Cheers,
Thomas Goirand (zigo)
for the rename to
ever be effective (if the person(s) in charge decide(s) it...).
Cheers,
Thomas Goirand (zigo)
On 11/4/21 8:14 PM, Paul R. Tagliamonte wrote:
> The hardest part may very well be changing all the CNAME/A
> records[1][2]
Thanks for volunteering! :)
Cheers,
Thomas Goirand (zigo)
th the FTP master team at least, before writing
this message? That would be appropriate, IMO.
Cheers,
Thomas Goirand (zigo)
P.S: Please do not take it the wrong way: saying something is silly is
not the same as calling someone silly... I do respect Felix (and
everyone else), and in this instance as well.
s I would hate myself to browse a local doc and having my web
browser access remote content when I don't expect it.
I don't think a GR is appropriate here, at least not before discussing
this with other DDs (maybe in debian-devel) for long enough. I also
believe that this isn't a topic that deserves so much of our DD time.
Cheers,
Thomas Goirand (zigo)
t;.
I hope it's more clear like this, and it doesn't hurt anyone this time.
Cheers,
Thomas Goirand (zigo)
ake a case that we should be indulgent with RMS
because he's autistic? If that is your intention, you're achieving the
exact opposite thing with your message...
Cheers,
Thomas Goirand (zigo)
d understand if anyone fears harassment after the vote if it is
disclosed, and that would be a good reason, but I do not share the view
that there's a high risk for this to happen. This vote is a lot less
important than many in these threads think.
Cheers,
Thomas Goirand (zigo)
ejected from the
free software movement in general"?
Cheers,
Thomas Goirand (zigo)
On 3/24/21 11:10 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> [...]
> sexual preference [...]
s/sexual preference/sexual orientation/
Someone just pointed out to me that "sexual preference" may be
considered offensive. That's not my intention: I simply copied the
wording of Bart without enough t
your
opinion about the issue. This doesn't match the title of your message.
FWIW, I'm in the opinion Debian shouldn't do anything, and that all of
this is just distractions. We have Bullseye to release...
> I suspect most people already have their minds made up.
Looks like you do! :)
Cheers,
Thomas Goirand (zigo)
eneral is disgusting.
And by getting this as a GR, it feels like promoting the cancel culture
in Debian. :/
Can't you just express your opinion by yourself, by signing the letter?
Thomas Goirand (zigo)
ing teams
- representing Debian (interviews, medias, etc...)
- managing funds
- resolving conflicts
Sruthi, any comment? Please let me know where I'm wrong, as it feels
like you probably do not agree with me.
Cheers,
Thomas Goirand
L election, and voiced your intend to
make a GR about creating a foundation (but not make it the only topic of
your platform).
Anyway, thanks for this topic again, and I really hope you make the
foundation thing happen, being the DPL or not. :)
Cheers,
Thomas Goirand (zigo)
On 12/28/19 5:52 PM, Mattia Rizzolo wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 27, 2019 at 10:08:44PM +0100, Thomas Goirand wrote:
>> So, this means there's 101 DDs that don't have a GPG key in the keyring?
>> Wow, that's a big amount. Do we have an idea of how long these DDs are
>> in that stat
On 12/27/19 10:08 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> On 12/27/19 11:15 AM, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
>> The script thinks it knows the eligible voters, but it doesn't.
>> The top of the graph is now just above 900, because devotee thinks
>> there are 909 DDs. 909 is the amount that
the keyring. But the real number is
> 1011, so I actually need to fix the numbers after the vote.
>
> Kurt
So, this means there's 101 DDs that don't have a GPG key in the keyring?
Wow, that's a big amount. Do we have an idea of how long these DDs are
in that state? Why are they still DDs?
Cheers,
Thomas Goirand (zigo)
nk we need to rush. Even if this vote was
postponed until January, it's my view that it would be fine (but I
understand others who think differently).
Thomas Goirand (zigo)
clarative runscripts) without loosing anything. Benda, why
don't you do that?
Cheers,
Thomas Goirand (zigo)
[1] https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/OpenRC/supervise-daemon
Hi Sam,
On 12/2/19 6:12 PM, Sam Hartman wrote:
>>>>>> "Thomas" == Thomas Goirand writes:
>
> Thomas> Sam,
>
> Thomas> Is this a real life case (if so, please name the
> Thomas> package...), or just a pure fictional one, just beca
>
> What does proposal D say about this?
> Is the package RC buggy under proposal D until this patch is applied?
> Does the maintainer have the option to retain the enhanced
> functionality?
Sam,
Is this a real life case (if so, please name the package...), or just a
pure fictional one, just
ppropriate for Debian communication fora;
>likewise references to bugs which are not relevant to the topic at
>hand.
>
>Communications on Debian fora on these matters should all be
>encouraging and pleasant, even when discussing technical problems.
>We ask that commu
On 11/17/19 9:00 PM, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Joshua Hudson writes:
>
>> The debate on systemd often turns into systemd vs. sysvinit because
>> sysvinit is the working alternative right now. Unfortunately, this is a
>> poor way to frame the debate. The reality is sytemd unit files are a
>> really
implementation. (The same goes for any
>future enhancements.)
>
> with
>
>[...] The
>transition should be as smooth as possible for all users including
>those of alternative init systems.
I agree with Holger that it's probably better to leave the amount of
time undefined, and see what happens on a case by case basis.
Cheers,
Thomas Goirand
ve $day-job stuff to care, and Ian probably also needs time to
think of ways to write things. A week or 2 wont change anything, and
probably not the outcome. However, better wording and greater ideas could.
Cheers,
Thomas Goirand (zigo)
responsibilities.
>
> It sounds like Ian is planning on making a few changes, so I'll hold off
> on formally seconding it until there's a new draft.
>
+1
I find Ian's draft (after all the in-progress rework) very good, and
would probably second the final proposal.
Thomas Goirand (zigo)
nominate myself for the 2019 DPL election.
>
> -Jonathan
Sorry to just do a +1, but thanks.
Cheers,
Thomas Goirand (zigo)
On 04/06/2017 06:10 PM, Paul Wise wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 11:07 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote:
>
>> Even more, from my experience, the availability of an HCL (ie: Hardware
>> Compatibility List) is mandatory for some vendors to choose Debian. At
>> $work, I've been t
t doesn't bother the other DDs,
then we're fine.
Cheers,
Thomas Goirand (zigo)
. To avoid
trademark issues, this logo *must* be different from the standard Debian
logo.
Note that I am convince the FSF initiative (I can't remember the ugly
website name, sorry...) is *not* a correct response to this need. We
need our own thing.
If one was to start such initiative, I'd be happy to help.
Cheers,
Thomas Goirand (zigo)
, actually...
To all: what do you think you can do to make the PPA thing happen?
Cheers,
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can only see it happening the correct way.
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On 10/17/2014 05:14 PM, Marco d'Itri wrote:
aigar...@debian.org wrote:
To be frank, in cases like logind I would expect the logind binary
package to be split out and its source patched in such a way to allow
it to work without systemd running (however badly) and moving the main
systemd
, what is your take on this?
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On 01/28/2014 11:44 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote:
On 01/28/2014 03:39 AM, Guillem Jover wrote:
Option D
* Switch to sysvinit + OpenRC wherever available.
- architectures where OpenRC is not currently available will switch
whenever OpenRC has been ported, retaining their current default
On 01/28/2014 03:39 AM, Guillem Jover wrote:
Option D
* Switch to sysvinit + OpenRC wherever available.
- architectures where OpenRC is not currently available will switch
whenever OpenRC has been ported, retaining their current default
in the meantime.
- a reimplementation of
On 01/23/2014 07:58 AM, Charles Plessy wrote:
Perhaps the way out is to solve the technical problem regarding the Essential
flag so that it is easier to install systemd, upstart or openrc, and defer a
decision untill the call for change comes from enough maintainers of init
scripts saying that
On 03/26/2013 09:28 PM, Gergely Nagy wrote:
I see
Zack's DPL helpers initiative as a step in this direction, and I'd like
to take it a little further.
How? Make it formal? Have new official positions? Or just push more
people to help and that's it (which is ok too...)?
Thomas
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Hi all,
One of the key role of the DPL is to delegate.
What are your intention in this regard? Do you think that the current
teams and roles are well filled? Or would you like to change some of the
people currently holding a position? Why (not) changing anything?
Cheers,
Thomas
P.S: I have
On 03/21/2013 11:52 AM, Michael Gilbert wrote:
I think the outcome of moving a package that falls in the requires
external stuff from main to contrib would rarely qualify as silly.
Take for example the twitter perl packages. The API is changing (of
course that is something outside of
On 03/21/2013 02:02 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote:
On 03/21/2013 11:52 AM, Michael Gilbert wrote:
I think the outcome of moving a package that falls in the requires
external stuff from main to contrib would rarely qualify as silly.
Take for example the twitter perl packages. The API is changing
This one is an easy one to answer, I hope. No trap here...
Being the DPS is for sure a very demanding job. So I would like to know
what your current activity is (what is your paid job). Please also
explain how much your activity may (or may not) allow you to have time
for the DPL activity.
On 03/12/2012 04:04 PM, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 03:28:53AM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
Hi,
If you see projects like Openstack or oVirt (sorry for the examples
taken from my area of expertise...), they have elections every 6 months
for project leaders
On 03/15/2012 10:10 PM, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 03:11:28PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
On 03/12/2012 04:04 PM, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 03:28:53AM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
Hi,
If you see projects like Openstack or oVirt (sorry
will not miss software they do care about
Of course, this is only an idea that I'm throwing, and I'm not raising
hand for the implementation, but at the same time, the ones who have
worked on tags and debexpo could be in a better position to do it.
Thoughts anyone?
Thomas Goirand (zigo)
P.S: I
On 03/13/2012 12:18 AM, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
we could
put a note in the release notes or in the installation manual
Do you *seriously* think that this would help? :)
and/or put something on the website
We have this on our from page already (eg: the Donations link).
Thomas
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On 03/13/2012 12:14 AM, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
there
are some things I would like to see the DPL do differently
Could you be a bit more explicit? Which things? Note that I have read
your platform, but I still think it needs some clarifications. For
example, you wrote that you think the DPL
Hi,
search[ing] for talent and passion is a great goal, but just writing
The key to my goal is communication isn't enough for me. So, how will
you do?
Cheers,
Thomas
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Hi,
This is a question for all candidates.
Over the years, I've always been very surprised to see that there's very
little money that Debian is able to get. I'm convinced that this
situation could change with a bit of involvement from the DPL, and that
such money could help a lot the project.
this in a
better English than mine...).
What are the improvements in this area that our 2012 candidates foresee?
Cheers,
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