Re: [Declude.JunkMail] ROUTETO

2003-07-24 Thread R. Scott Perry
Will ROUTETO work to an external domain that is one not held on Imail? Example: Message addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sfdomain.com is not hosted on Imail, but Imail is doing SF for it. That message triggers a test called SFDOMAINREROUTE with a ROUTETO action to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Again,

[Declude.JunkMail] FW: Bad headers?

2003-07-24 Thread Mike Barnett
What specifically in the header triggered the 'BADHEADER', and how can the customer fix it? Thanks MB -Original Message- From: Mike Moloney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 6:43 PM To: Mike Barnett Subject: Bad headers? MB: Below, in the headers, it indicates

[Declude.JunkMail] dashes in domains

2003-07-24 Thread Kami Razvan
Title: Message Hi; It seems like with all the spammish domains being taken now more more we see domains with lots of dashes.. Double dashes! - @ADULT---WEB-CAM.COM - @CHINA--V.COM - @girls--panties.com Single dashes! - @home-loan-quotes-direct.com - @horny-wild-girls.us -

[Declude.JunkMail] OT: SP4 and MS03-026

2003-07-24 Thread Mark Gordon
Title: Message Does anyone know if I install the ms03-026 then sp4 do I have to resintall the security patch thanks.

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] FW: Bad headers?

2003-07-24 Thread R. Scott Perry
What specifically in the header triggered the 'BADHEADER', and how can the customer fix it? X-RBL-Warning: BADHEADERS: This E-mail was sent from a broken mail client [802c]. Going to http://www.declude.com/tools and using the 'BADHEADER Lookup' for 802c shows This E-mail has a bogus

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] FW: Bad headers?

2003-07-24 Thread Bill Landry
From: Mike Moloney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Kami will want to take note of this domain. :) Yep, but I would still have to agree with Kami. In my review there are very few legitimate domains that use more than on dash - symbol for their e-mail domains, and never two dashes -- together.

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: SP4 and MS03-026

2003-07-24 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Title: Message My experience has been that NT4-era service packs will overwrite hotfixes. W2K and W2K3 (and Office XP, too) service packs will leave patches intact, i.e. they will not overwritecomponents newer than themselves. Doing a repair/re-install from the Recovery CD or from the

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] dashes in domains

2003-07-24 Thread Joshua Levitsky
Title: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] dashes in domains Seems like if there was a wildcard character we could use in the filter files then you could do HELO 8 CONTAINS -*- MAILFROM 8 CONTAINS -*-*@ Assuming * was our wildcard then that would do it no? But since * is valid in an email youd have to

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] dashes in domains

2003-07-24 Thread Joshua Levitsky
Title: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] dashes in domains Damn... Gotta stop emailing while I work... The 2nd example is flawed... MAILFROM 8 CONTAINS @*-*- Above is what I meant tho the example below would catch mail... Probably list confirmations which frequently have -s in the address. -Josh From:

[Declude.JunkMail] [Declude.Junkmail] dashes in domains

2003-07-24 Thread bill.maillists
I have two dashes in my domain. If this test is going to be used, you may want to look for three or more dashes, or consecutive dashes. Regards, Bill Kami, I totally agree, I think this would be a very good test. Bill - Original Message - From: Kami Razvan To: [EMAIL

[Declude.JunkMail] BODYISBLANK Filter

2003-07-24 Thread ITG Lists
Hi, What is the correct implementation of the BODYISBLANK filter? Can someone provide an example? Thanks! --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] BODYISBLANK Filter

2003-07-24 Thread Kami Razvan
Hi.. I recall we had this idea discussed a while back. When I suggested this among many others we were getting a lot of email with no content Blank body simply appearing as spammers are testing the email addresses. A single email with no content.. Since there are no content then the body

[Declude.JunkMail] From MyDomain To MyDomain

2003-07-24 Thread J Porter
I'm seeing more and more of this all the time. Someone inquired about this recently and maybe I missed any responses hanging head down in shame The generic header reads... Received from mydomain.com (xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx) by mail.mydomain.com.. etc From: someone myemailaddy To: myemailaddy where

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] dashes in domains

2003-07-24 Thread George Kulman
Title: Message Kami, Please whitelist my Almost-On-Line.com domain which I use for AOL convertees and also use as a honey pot. George KulmanPartnerRidge Systems, L.L.C. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kami RazvanSent:

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude using 50% cpu

2003-07-24 Thread R. Scott Perry
We are evaluating declude and have noticed a considerable increase in the cpu cycles associated with mail delivery. Is there anyway have it run in an isolated cpu instance? since there are multiple instances of declude.exe running, I would guess it would be hard to lock it down. How many

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] dashes in domains

2003-07-24 Thread Bill Landry
Title: Message That would not be a good idea, especially since this is a public list and if he did that anyone could spam his users by setting their return address to [EMAIL PROTECTED]. I think people are missing the point here. We are not talking about blacklisting anyone with multiple

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude using 50% cpu

2003-07-24 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Title: Message Mark, it may be interesting for you to note that we don't set the number of instances of Decludedirectly. Instead, the "max processes" limit in your IMail SMTP advanced settings is what governs the total number ofIMail and declude.exe instances. Also, an important

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude using 50% cpu

2003-07-24 Thread Mark Gordon
Title: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude using 50% cpu On a good day we rev 19000 local deliveries + send 8000 per day. It hits the machine hard average cpu time before was around 44% then when declude was installed it jumped to over 90% average. The version is 1.75 -Original Message-

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude using 50% cpu

2003-07-24 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Title: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude using 50% cpu Where is your DNS server you are using in Imail? John Tolmachoff MCSE CSSA Engineer/Consultant eServices For You www.eservicesforyou.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude using 50% cpu

2003-07-24 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Title: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude using 50% cpu BTW, with an average CPU usage of 44% before Declude, you may be reaching the saturation point of the server. Not critical, but from my understanding if average CPU usage is at 50%, you need to start looking at things. John

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude using 50% cpu

2003-07-24 Thread Mark Gordon
Title: Message Thanks for that info Andrew, however I am looking at the task manager for my box and even 1 declude process was taking 50% then it popped up another process with 45% granted these go away when the messages are finished, however this server passes a LOT of traffic, so the

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude using 50% cpu

2003-07-24 Thread R. Scott Perry
On a good day we rev 19000 local deliveries + send 8000 per day. It hits the machine hard average cpu time before was around 44% then when declude was installed it jumped to over 90% average. The version is 1.75 The problem here is most likely that your server is reaching its limit. If it was

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude using 50% cpu

2003-07-24 Thread Mark Gordon
Title: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude using 50% cpu Scott, is there any threshold for the number of custom filters vs the amount of time/cpu power required to parse such filters? I think that I may be passing it through to many filters before sending it out. -Original Message- From:

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude using 50% cpu

2003-07-24 Thread Jason Newland
Title: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude using 50% cpu Also, can we ask what hardware / OS this is running on? Jason - Original Message - From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 3:03 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail]

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude using 50% cpu

2003-07-24 Thread Mark Gordon
Title: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude using 50% cpu win2k sp3 dual 933 512K ram, but memory was never a problem, its a dedicated mail server nothing else -Original Message-From: Jason Newland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 4:22 PMTo: [EMAIL

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude using 50% cpu

2003-07-24 Thread Kami Razvan
Title: Message Hi; Let me share our experience and what we did to help it. 1: We put all the IP4r tests in IMail (of course version 8 if you have it) 2: Created a weight XHeader file and gave the header that appears for each test a weight. The following is a snapshot of what we have for

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude using 50% cpu

2003-07-24 Thread R. Scott Perry
Scott, is there any threshold for the number of custom filters vs the amount of time/cpu power required to parse such filters? I think that I may be passing it through to many filters before sending it out. That depends mostly on the type of filters -- for example, a filter that uses BODY

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude using 50% cpu

2003-07-24 Thread Mark Gordon
Title: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude using 50% cpu This server is slammed during buisness hours but it was making due with dual 933, declude just kills it. What portion of custom filters vs rdns checks should I look at to reduce this processing strain? -Original Message-From:

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude using 50% cpu

2003-07-24 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Title: Message Kami, you've mentioned your approach before but never so succinctly; thanks for sharing. I've been meaning to ask you why youadopted techniques1) and 2). Surely this is a longer way to do the same thing as IP4R/RBL tests in JM? 3) Does make good sense to me. I wonder if the

h:RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude using 50% cpu

2003-07-24 Thread Nathan Fouarge
Title: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude using 50% cpu I am very sorry but I have to ask, how did you get win2k to run on 512K of ram. :) On the serious side though, I really think there is an underlying problem here. Our mail server is a p4 1.6 with 1Gig of ram, with scsi hdds(Raid 5 with

[Declude.JunkMail] Spamdomains question

2003-07-24 Thread Joshua Levitsky
Title: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] dashes in domains Question on SpamDomains... X-RBL-Warning: SPAMDOMAINS: Spamdomain 'netscape.' found: Address of [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent from invalid r2d2.aoltw.net The above header was in an email to me from a netscape employee I work with. (changed it to

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Spamdomains question

2003-07-24 Thread Dan Geiser
Title: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] dashes in domains Joshua, What about... netscape. .aol ? Dan - Original Message - From: Joshua Levitsky To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 6:26 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Spamdomains question

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Spamdomains question

2003-07-24 Thread Joshua Levitsky
Title: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] dashes in domains Oh that is smart... cool... I think that will do it for me. -Josh - Original Message - From: Dan Geiser To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 6:42 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Spamdomains

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude using 50% cpu

2003-07-24 Thread R. Scott Perry
This server is slammed during buisness hours but it was making due with dual 933, declude just kills it. What portion of custom filters vs rdns checks should I look at to reduce this processing strain? A dual 933 should be able to process at about 200,000 E-mails/day complete with virus and

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude using 50% cpu

2003-07-24 Thread Rifat Levis
I am running single P3 1.0 Ghz with 2 scsi HD 1st Drive OS 2nd Drive Imail. Win2k , Sp4 , Imail 8.x with latest patches. Declude JunkPro , Virus with f-prot. ver 1.75 Webmail+pop3+smtp+imap4+DNS server Processor usage around 30% ,40% I didnt made any stats about the email volume , but more

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude using 50% cpu

2003-07-24 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Title: Message Mark, you might check if your C:\IMail\Spool\Overflow contains may Q*.SMD files, which will tell you whether you have a mail processing backlog. A busy server is one thing, and a burdened server is another. You can read: http://www.declude.com/dq.htm for the how and why

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude using 50% cpu

2003-07-24 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Title: Message FYI, I have a single mail relay with no mail boxes. RunsIMail like a champin a stripped down Windows XPin a SCSI based Compaqserver PII 333 MHz and 160 MB of RAM (plenty), but with the text filtering we do, we get a consistentoverflow every day during peak hours. We've