Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Spam lists

2003-09-26 Thread Bill Landry
Except you will never know how a test will work in your environment without trying it. What works for one person in their environment may not work for someone else, and vise versa. I guess that's the beauty of a weighted system like Declude. Also, because you can try different tests without

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Spam lists

2003-09-26 Thread Kami Razvan
Also, because you can try different tests without causing any problems by simply using the LOG and/or IGNORE actions, there should be no hesitation to see how a particular test will work in your environment. I agree.. What we always do is add the test with a weight of Zero and use the WARN

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] spam review

2003-09-26 Thread andyb
Can you give me the syntax for that? - Original Message - From: Markus Gufler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 12:37 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] spam review How do I get the Weight: to show? Andy, It's not the answer but maybe this

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Spam lists

2003-09-26 Thread Sheldon Koehler
Darrell, Does DLA also do Imail log files? I would love to have a program that can email me a summary every day and then a larger report text file I can look at if needed. Sheldon Sheldon Koehler, Owner/Partnerhttp://www.tenforward.com Ten Forward Communications

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Attacks prompt shutdown of antispam lists

2003-09-26 Thread Sheldon Koehler
Three Web sites that provide spam-blocking lists have been forced offline as a result of crippling Internet attacks in what experts on Thursday said is an escalation in the war between spammers and opponents of unsolicited e-mails. These lists that we all have come to love, could be made

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Attacks prompt shutdown of antispam lists

2003-09-26 Thread Bill Landry
You would have to download the lists quite often to stay current, and they are rather large. And if the site is being DDoSed, and it cannot even respond to regular DNS queries, how are you going to be able to connect to download the updates? Bill - Original Message - From: Sheldon

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Attacks prompt shutdown of antispam lists

2003-09-26 Thread Sheldon Koehler
I get the Sniffer updates several times per day. And if it was a CNAME and not an IP, it could be changed. Sheldon Sheldon Koehler, Owner/Partnerhttp://www.tenforward.com Ten Forward Communications 360-457-9023 Nationwide access, neighborhood support! He who sends a message

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] spam review

2003-09-26 Thread Markus Gufler
Can you give me the syntax for that? Assuming you have configured 2 weight tests like WEIGHT10 WEIGHT20 in your global.cfg file and you want to hold on 20 points: Set the two actions WEIGHT10 SUBJECT [spam%WEIGHT%] WEIGHT20 HOLD in your $default$.junkmail file. (Note the space after the ]

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Attacks prompt shutdown of antispam lists

2003-09-26 Thread Bill Landry
DNS blacklist databases are very much larger than the Sniffer rule set files. Bill - Original Message - From: Sheldon Koehler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 11:14 AM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Attacks prompt shutdown of antispam lists I

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] spam review

2003-09-26 Thread andyb
Yes, that part I already have. But I already have WEIGHT10 HOLD and WEIGHT20 DELETE What is the syntax for getting the weight in the subject line? thanks, andy - Original Message - From: Markus Gufler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 2:08 PM

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Attacks prompt shutdown of antispam lists

2003-09-26 Thread Sheldon Koehler
DNS blacklist databases are very much larger than the Sniffer rule set files. OK, bad idea... Sheldon --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Attacks prompt shutdown of antispam lists

2003-09-26 Thread Markus Gufler
These lists that we all have come to love, could be made available via FTP and we can host them on our own servers... You would have to download the lists quite often to stay current, and they are rather large. And if the site is being DDoSed, and it cannot even respond to

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Attacks prompt shutdown of antispam lists

2003-09-26 Thread Markus Gufler
DNS blacklist databases are very much larger than the Sniffer rule set files. A textfile containing only IP-Addresses can by zipped down to around 1/3 of his size. A file containing 200 Ips has an original size of 3,1 kB The zipped file has 1,1 kB (Probably the zip algoritmus will work bether

[Declude.JunkMail] Sender Permitted From (SPF)

2003-09-26 Thread Bill Landry
What do people think of this proposed solution to spam: Sender Permitted From (SPF)? You can find out more about it at: http://spf.pobox.com/howithelps.html Sounds like it could be an effective tool against spam, although there would need to be mass adoption in order for it to be of much

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Attacks prompt shutdown of antispam lists lists

2003-09-26 Thread Scott MacLean
It wouldn't make sense to repeatedly download what was essentially the same list with small changes. It would make much more sense to have one large file to download once, followed by a distribution of small diff files to apply to the main file, containing any additions/deletions since the

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Attacks prompt shutdown of antispam lists

2003-09-26 Thread Bill Landry
Multiply times the number of databases you want to use, times the number of times you would need to download them each day to stay current, times the number of people that want to download the files--have you got a spare OC-3 laying around...? Bill - Original Message - From: Markus

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Foreign Characters and Declude

2003-09-26 Thread R. Scott Perry
Don't know if any one asked this, but we are seeing a flurry of omlauted characters used in Subject fields: RE: üS Döctor appröved RX Prëscríptíon We are ring to filter on these, but Declude doesn't see to recognize them? That should trigger the NONENGLISH test (if you are using it).

Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] Foreign Characters and Declude

2003-09-26 Thread Roger Heath
Reply to: R. Scott Perry Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Foreign Characters and Declude on Friday 7:40:45 PM I want to enable foreign characters but filter on their exact words. It sounds like these character sets are not 'viewed' and filtered in Declude? -- Roger Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Declude.JunkMail] OT - publishing solution Was: Attacks prompt shutdown of antispam lists

2003-09-26 Thread Pete McNeil
At 07:25 PM 9/26/2003 -0400, you wrote: At 06:50 PM 09/26/2003, Pete McNeil wrote: At 02:30 PM 9/26/2003 -0700, you wrote: I've said it before, I'll say it again. It's time to leverage the power of the network agianst abuse on that same network. Pete, You are preaching to the choir ;) When

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Fwd: PERSONAL LETTER TO LEVITSKY JOSHUA

2003-09-26 Thread Karen D. Oland
I'll go you one better. I got one in the real mail (from Spain, I am in the US). Says I won 650,000 in a lottery, all I need to do is fill in the official looking ppage of personal info, bank acct and emergency contacts so they can deposit it for me. Of course, I have to act fast or it all goes