[Declude.JunkMail] What version am I running?

2005-01-05 Thread marc catuogno
Does this still work? \IMail\Declude -diag I thought I was on 1.81 and I just D/Led the fix and replaced declude.exe and I wanted to check the version through the diag and it gave me Diagnostics ON (Declude v1.80) I assumed that this would be version 1.82 - did I do something wrong? --- [This

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] test.dat

2005-01-05 Thread R. Scott Perry
An explanation of this file... it's purpose and how it gets there.. would be very beneficial. Is supposed to be there, or is it part of the beta testing? Will it re-create itself if deleted? One of the things that often happens in betas (and the old interims) is that files will be created for

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] What version am I running? PLEASE IGNORE!

2005-01-05 Thread marc catuogno
Duh - TOO early for me I must have copied an old .exe - I just did it again and now have 1.82 - Sorry, my bad. Marc -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of marc catuogno Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 7:12 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 2005 SpamHeaders - Fix

2005-01-05 Thread Joshua M. Hughes
I have not upgraded to fix the 2005 spamheaders test as of yet. Our CPU has been maxed out and the server bogged down since my return after the New Year. I have commented out the spamheaders test and the CPU is still maxed. I went into IMAIL and changed the delivery application from declude.exe to

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 2005 SpamHeaders - Fix

2005-01-05 Thread R. Scott Perry
I have not upgraded to fix the 2005 spamheaders test as of yet. Our CPU has been maxed out and the server bogged down since my return after the New Year. I have commented out the spamheaders test and the CPU is still maxed. I went into IMAIL and changed the delivery application from declude.exe

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 2005 SpamHeaders - Fix

2005-01-05 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
The CPU spike is probably do to sheer volume. What is the current volume of messages being processed? John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joshua M. Hughes

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] 2005 SpamHeaders - Fix

2005-01-05 Thread Darrell \([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Have you added a lot of filters? These tend to run up the CPU. Are you currently experiencing a dictionary attack? Are you still seeing a normal mail pattern? Darrell Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 2005 SpamHeaders - Fix -

2005-01-05 Thread Joshua M. Hughes
Sorted by CPU the system process is first and second is a toss up between declude, smtpd32, and queuemgr followed by as many as 16 simultaneous instances of declude with cpu between 1 and 4. The system is running at 45 to 60 and at times Declude shows up first between 45 and 60. When I change the

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 2005 SpamHeaders - Fix

2005-01-05 Thread Joshua M. Hughes
I am currently seeing a normal mail pattern. The Imail Daily report actually reported slightly less smtp deliveries yesterday than normal. Thank you, Joshua Sunline Team (941) 206-7870 http://www.sunline.net/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 2005 SpamHeaders - Fix -

2005-01-05 Thread R. Scott Perry
Sorted by CPU the system process is first and second is a toss up between declude, smtpd32, and queuemgr followed by as many as 16 simultaneous instances of declude with cpu between 1 and 4. That normal indicates an above average volume of mail (or, in other words, the system is at full

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] 2005 SpamHeaders - Fix -

2005-01-05 Thread Darrell \([EMAIL PROTECTED])
It is normal to see Declude spike from time to time. If you are seeing a lot of Declude processes just sitting there in your task manager using very little to no CPU I would check to make sure your not using any RBL's that are old or just check in general that your DNS server is responding to

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] 2005 SpamHeaders - Fix

2005-01-05 Thread Matt
What about the size of the log files before and after. It would be helpful to post both the IMail and JunkMail log file sizes as this will give an idea about the volume. I'm not sure that the SMTP deliveries number reflects spam and viruses that Declude blocks. Another thing that would be

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 2005 SpamHeaders - Fix -

2005-01-05 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Joshua, if I remember correctly, the IMail daily report shows you the number of messages inbound to your mailserver, but it does not show the number of recipients. You may be getting hit with a dictionary attack. Others on this list have seen this before in various guises. On my own mailserver,

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 2005 SpamHeaders - Fix -

2005-01-05 Thread Joshua M. Hughes
The mailboxes are local to the server. We're really not using many external tests unless you consider the several Filters an IPfile and a couple of fromfiles and spamdomains external. Other than that, all dns tests and predefined tests. I have not noticed a large increase in log file size. I

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] 2005 SpamHeaders - Fix -

2005-01-05 Thread Matt
That would rule out an increase in volume, and also the potential of a bug with an external test. So if in fact no other changes were made as far as filters go, I would look at your system next (make absolutely sure that this is correct). Check the fragmentation on all partitions and defrag

[Declude.JunkMail] Filter for blank subject lines

2005-01-05 Thread mhiltner
Any previous talk on filtering for blank subject lines is 2 years old, so I'd like to present the question again, and/or make a new feature request. Within our corp, we have several employees who enjoy send their mails with no subject what-so-ever. Wrist slaps have done nothing to correct this

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter for blank subject lines

2005-01-05 Thread Scott Fisher
If you have Junkmail Pro, try this as a Filter: SUBJECT 10ISBLANK - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 2:25 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter for blank subject lines Any previous talk on filtering for

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 2005 SpamHeaders - Fix -

2005-01-05 Thread Joshua M. Hughes
John, It took me a while to get these stats. I reviewed the SMTP logs for 12/4, 12/5, 12/7, 12/8. I know the server was running fine during this week. Usage is as follows. 12/4 - 83,170 messages 12/5 - 82,065 messages 12/7 - 95,087 messages 12/8 - 95,730 messages I reviewed the SMTP logs for

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter for blank subject lines

2005-01-05 Thread Matt
Since a sizeable amount of blank subjects are spam and come from forged addresses, please don't bounce such messages. It's called backscatter, and it is a very large problem, typically amounting to 1% to 2% of my total mail volume. This is also common enough that you would also upset many

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] 2005 SpamHeaders - Fix -

2005-01-05 Thread Matt
A 200 MB normal IMail log file (not set to verbose or debug) would correspond to more than 200,000 messages on my system. I don't log POP3 stuff though, so that might also explain the difference. Please zip up yesterday's Declude JunkMail log and post it to a Web site somewhere and send me

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter for blank subject lines

2005-01-05 Thread Bill Landry
My read is that he is only attempting to enforce the subject requirement on his on users within his own domain. So if he builds his rules appropriately, either as a specific domain rule or a combo filter, he should be able to apply the subject requirement to his own users/domain without affecting

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter for blank subject lines

2005-01-05 Thread mhiltner
It's not about blocking spam, it's about forcing employees to be sensible when it comes to electronic messages. I myself get between 20 - 30 emails a day from 1 employee that carry blank subjects. Dare I say 700 a month from one person? Memos, personal requests, outside of ramming their head

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter for blank subject lines

2005-01-05 Thread Matt
True. Just be careful, and understand that you can't apply such actions to whitelisted E-mail. Matt Bill Landry wrote: My read is that he is only attempting to enforce the subject requirement on his on users within his own domain. So if he builds his rules appropriately, either as a

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter for blank subject lines

2005-01-05 Thread Matt
I didn't read your original post carefully enough and misunderstood the exact situation as a result. Sorry to have touched on your frustration. I agree, no-subject people are annoying, especially when they do so 20 times a day. Around here that's grounds for disciplinary action :) Matt

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter for blank subject lines

2005-01-05 Thread S.J.Stanaitis
I've actually found that ramming their head into the cubicle wall works better than a filing cabinet. They're rather resilient and don't take too much damage, nor are they so hard that they'll actually knock out the luser and make them forget why you were assaulting them. I've got the same

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] 2005 SpamHeaders - Fix -

2005-01-05 Thread Dave Doherty
Joshua- How many files do you have in your spool? Anytime I've had this problem there has been a corresponding increase in the spool contents. I agree with Matt that it may well be a user sending high volumes of SMTP traffic through your server. It doesn't have to be a lot of messages, but if

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter for blank subject lines

2005-01-05 Thread mhiltner
I have pro and my filters work, yet ISBLANK, IS BLANK, IS, and IS , all pass mail with blank subjects through. White listing plays no part. Do you know if that is supposed to work for sure? Thanks. Sorry for the vent earlier. I got my ass chewed REAL good today because I forget to do

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter for blank subject lines

2005-01-05 Thread Kevin Bilbee
I have instructed users that send me messages with no subject, they are filtered into a folder and I go through them in my free time. They all know I have no free time. I get messages with subjects now. A good computer/email usage policy can also enable you to terminate employees that do

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter for blank subject lines

2005-01-05 Thread Matt
No problem at all. I'm guilty of much worse, besides, I responded inappropriately. I seem to recall the ISBLANK option not working with SUBJECT. Could be wrong though, but a test of this would seem definitive. Make sure there are no tabs or spaces following ISBLANK, unlike other filters, this

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter for blank subject lines

2005-01-05 Thread R. Scott Perry
I have pro and my filters work, yet ISBLANK, IS BLANK, IS, and IS , all pass mail with blank subjects through. White listing plays no part. Do you know if that is supposed to work for sure? Are you creating a filter test for it? The SUBJECT 10 ISBLANK line should work with the latest version

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Utility

2005-01-05 Thread Scott Fosseen
I use BareGrep from http://www.baremetalsoft.com This is a free GUI Windows grep utility. Open the log file or files, type in the message id and the program will extract only the lines that pertain to that message. How I normally use the program is that I get a message that the mail from

[Declude.JunkMail] Declude SmarterMail

2005-01-05 Thread Mailing Lists
Has anywone been beta testing SmarterMail and Declude? If so how is it working for you? We never got the beta working, so curious to know if this is working for anyone. Peter

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude SmarterMail

2005-01-05 Thread Harry Palmer
We are testing SmarterMail and Declude now. It is workingquite well with a few outstandingissues. It's still in beta.

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter for blank subject lines

2005-01-05 Thread mhiltner
Ok... This is what I have In global.cfg: SUBJECTFILTER filter C:\IMail\Declude\subjectfilter.txt x 5 0 In $default$.cfg for this domain: SUBJECTFILTER WARN In C:\IMail\Declude\subjectfilter.txt: SUBJECT 10 ISBLANK By doing this, sending mail from a remote domain, the

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter for blank subject lines

2005-01-05 Thread Matt
Is there a line return after your filter line? Declude needs a line return following every line (kind of a PITA). If so, I would assume that it doesn't work (bug). I recall it not working for me, but I haven't bothered to confirm that. Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok... This is what I

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter for blank subject lines

2005-01-05 Thread mhiltner
didn't seem to make a difference. mail still passed through unaffected. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MattSent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 8:12 PMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter for blank subject lines Is there a

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude SmarterMail

2005-01-05 Thread Dave Doherty
What sort of message volume are you testing? The SmarterTools folks say the CPU loads should be lighter with SM than IMal. Can you verify that from your experience? I'm testing it as a "SmartHost" mail cache right now, with volume of about 100,000 a day, and it looks to be holding up well

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter for blank subject lines

2005-01-05 Thread mhiltner
looks like it's time to learn some VBScript. I can see how your HELOISREVDNS works, but after toying with it a bit, I'm at a loss on how to move from two defined strings to comparing a blank space. No biggie... I'll figure something out. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude SmarterMail

2005-01-05 Thread Harry Palmer
WereplacedIMailwith SmarterMail on our server hosting 27 sites with 1,800+ users. I don'tbelieveourmessage volumewould be meaningful to you because we also have two IMGates (primary and secondary mxs) between the Internet andthe SmarterMail server,same as we had with our IMail server. The