Re: [Declude.JunkMail] What happened to the logging since 2.x????, it's HUGE

2006-05-22 Thread Nick Hayer
Hi Matt, Matt wrote: I'm trying an upgrade from the 2.x release for the first time, Why on earth would you want to do that? Was 2x too bug free and you need some excitement? -Nick

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] What happened to the logging since 2.x????, it's HUGE

2006-05-22 Thread Erik
Title: Message LOL, had to laugh at Nick. I'll wait to hear from Matt after his upgrade before we attempt to do it again. I think Matt's and our servers handle about the same email volume. -Erik -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

[Declude.JunkMail] Heads Up - Plain Text Base64 Not Decoded

2006-05-22 Thread Michael Thomas - Mathbox
Plain text messages (No MIME parts) with the body text encoded as BASE64 are not decoded, before the FILTERS are run against it. So, the FILTERS are run against the BASE64 encoding, not against the text that the BASE64 encoding represents. Declude FILTERS are totally ineffective against plain

AW: [Declude.JunkMail] What happened to the logging since 2.x????, it's HUGE

2006-05-22 Thread Markus Gufler
It's offering some new features and last but not least it a noticeable faster then v2. Markus Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Nick HayerGesendet: Montag, 22. Mai 2006 14:52An: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comBetreff: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] What

[Declude.JunkMail] fpReview Released - Easily Review Held Messages

2006-05-22 Thread Darrell \([EMAIL PROTECTED])
fpReview is a utility that allows you to easily review held mail on your Imail or SmarterMail system. With fpReview you can review messages and return them back to the queue for delivery or rescanning by Declude. Besides being able to return the message to the queue for delivery many other

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] What happened to the logging since 2.x????, it's HUGE

2006-05-22 Thread Matt
Title: Message Erik, Honestly, I was between a rock and a hard place. Declude 2.x doesn't work with IMail 8.2+, and IMail 8.15- has issues with killer messages that crash the Queue Manager service (which I found out the hard way, and 8.21 apparently fixes). For a while the killer messages

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] What happened to the logging since 2.x????, it's HUGE

2006-05-22 Thread Greg Birdsall
Title: Message Er, Ive been using Declude 2.0.5 for about six months with Imail 8.22. It works just fine. Am I an oddity with this? Is there something that says that it isnt supposed to work? We do about ~1.5 million messages a day with this setup. - greg From:

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] What happened to the logging since 2.x????, it's HUGE

2006-05-22 Thread Erik
Title: Message Thanks Matt. We are running Imail 8.22 (2005.10.19.3) and Declude version 2.06.16 on a Windows 2000 Sever version5.00.2195 Service Pack 4 with will no issues other then the ones I submitted to Declude for support and what I've mentioned on this list (which they "declude"

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] What happened to the logging since 2.x????, it's HUGE

2006-05-22 Thread Matt
Title: Message Eric and Greg, I'm basing the compatibility thing on reports to this list, and those reports prompted Declude to change it's architecture for processing messages. Something clearly was happening, but I don't recall ever hearing exactly what the cause was. I haven't tried

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] What happened to the logging since 2.x????, it's HUGE

2006-05-22 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Title: Message Well, great minds think alike*. I'm working on upgrading my IMail+Declude too. And like Matt, I'm doing it primarily to update my MTA, not to update mystable Declude 2.x software! I went directly from 8.15 HFx to IMail Server 2006.04a (aka 9.04) as an upgrade**. I haven't

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] What happened to the logging since 2.x????, it's HUGE

2006-05-22 Thread Erik
Title: Message Thanks Matt, Please keep us posted on our results ("us" meaningthose that not running the the latest 3.0.XX or 4.XX.XX release of Declude). I've mentioned this before; Delculde will not support us for the 2.XX.XX version we run; even though we have current service

[Declude.JunkMail] Experience with 4.x

2006-05-22 Thread Matt
I figured that i would just start a new thread for this instead of adding to the old one. This was the first time that I have used a version of Declude that runs as a service. I'm unfortunately surprised and disappointed at how it handles things, but a lot more makes sense now. In a

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Experience with 4.x

2006-05-22 Thread Darrell \([EMAIL PROTECTED])
The problem with this architecture is that when it moves a batch of messages into the work folder for processing, it quickly pegs the processor at 100% as it launches all of the threads, but most messages go through all of the steps quickly so the processors sit almost idle while it is waiting

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Experience with 4.x

2006-05-22 Thread Matt
Darrell, I've tweaked the settings, knowing the issues before I tried 4.x. The problem is that because they are batch processing and because there is significant latency in scanning some messages to factors such as messages size, virus scanning and DNS timeouts, the server does nothing for

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Experience with 4.x

2006-05-22 Thread Darrell \([EMAIL PROTECTED])
It's a faulty design that leaves more than half a server's CPU capacity unused due to the mere fact that they wait for all threads to complete before moving in a new batch. I can't speak to what you see on your server, but that is not how it is running on my server. I just double checked

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Experience with 4.x

2006-05-22 Thread Matt
I have a few more things to add now with a little more testing. I let my gateways backup on E-mail so that I could slam Declude, and here's what happens. When Declude is not hitting it's THREADS setting, it waits until the work folder is empty before moving in a new batch. When Declude is

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Experience with 4.x

2006-05-22 Thread Matt
Darrell, I put up two Windows Explorer windows side-by-side under normal volume and the pattern was consistent where the proc folder grows while the work folder shrinks until the work folder hits zero at which point the proc folder empties out and everything lands in work and then the

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Experience with 4.x

2006-05-22 Thread Imail Admin
I'd sure like to see some Declude comments on this discussion. Ben BC Web - Original Message - From: Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 5:12 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Experience with 4.x Darrell, I put up two Windows Explorer