RE: [Declude.JunkMail] BackScatter

2009-05-18 Thread David Barker
@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] BackScatter Thanks Craig. From all indications our server is tightened down pretty good right now. We moved from Imail to SM at the start of April, and I implemented grey listing at the start of May. So we did have a fair amount of backscatter in between

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] BackScatter

2009-05-18 Thread Dan Shadix
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] BackScatter Hi Todd, Alligate has way better greylisting capabilities than SmarterMail. SmarterMails implementation is somewhat dangerous. You need to be able to accurately qualify which messages should be greylisted. Alligate is the only

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] BackScatter

2009-05-18 Thread Robert Grosshandler
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] BackScatter We've been running Declude Interceptor for a few months now and I agree completely with David's comments. It has been great and the transition was very easy. Dan From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] BackScatter

2009-05-18 Thread David Barker
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] BackScatter From what I read, Interceptor (which we tried in its earlier incarnation, eons ago) doesn't include the Hijack functionality (the design wouldn't support it.) Rob From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] BackScatter

2009-05-18 Thread Nick Hayer
mailto:dbar...@declude.com *From:* supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] *On Behalf Of *Todd Richards *Sent:* Saturday, May 16, 2009 6:11 PM *To:* declude.junkmail@declude.com *Subject:* RE: [Declude.JunkMail] BackScatter Thanks Craig. From all indications our server

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] BackScatter

2009-05-18 Thread Michael Graveen
Of Todd Richards Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 6:11 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] BackScatter Thanks Craig. From all indications our server is tightened down pretty good right now. We moved from Imail to SM at the start of April, and I implemented grey

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] BackScatter

2009-05-18 Thread SpamManager
...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of David Barker Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 1:53 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] BackScatter That is correct, as Interceptor is a Gateway and runs outside the server as opposed to inside the mail server. Declude Hijack

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] BackScatter

2009-05-18 Thread SpamManager
...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Todd Richards Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 6:11 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] BackScatter Thanks Craig. From all indications our server is tightened down pretty good right now. We moved from Imail to SM at the start of April, and I

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] BackScatter

2009-05-18 Thread Michael Graveen
: Monday, May 18, 2009 3:57 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] BackScatter Hi David, Can you elaborate on why SmarterMail's greylisting is dangerous? In SmarterMail all mail gets greylisted until it passes. When it passes subsequent email get's whitelisted

re: [Declude.JunkMail] BackScatter

2009-05-16 Thread Michael Graveen
I think Greylisting reduces backscatter. Greylisting stops the majority of the SPAM from ever reaching our mail server, so it never has a chance to get bounced back because of a non existent user, etc. Mike Hi Everyone - We've been having a few

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] BackScatter

2009-05-16 Thread Darin Cox
problems. Darin. - Original Message - From: Michael Graveen To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 7:54 AM Subject: re: [Declude.JunkMail] BackScatter I think Greylisting reduces backscatter. Greylisting stops the majority of the SPAM from ever reaching our

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] BackScatter

2009-05-16 Thread Todd Richards
@declude.com Subject: re: [Declude.JunkMail] BackScatter I think Greylisting reduces backscatter. Greylisting stops the majority of the SPAM from ever reaching our mail server, so it never has a chance to get bounced back because of a non existent user, etc. Mike _ Hi Everyone - We've

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] BackScatter

2009-05-16 Thread Todd Richards
...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Darin Cox Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 7:33 AM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] BackScatter Todd, you might want to check SenderBase. We had a similar issue a month ago. SenderBase had recorded a number

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] BackScatter

2009-05-16 Thread Craig Edmonds
: [Declude.JunkMail] BackScatter I think Greylisting reduces backscatter. Greylisting stops the majority of the SPAM from ever reaching our mail server, so it never has a chance to get bounced back because of a non existent user, etc. Mike _ Hi Everyone - We've been having a few issues with mail

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] BackScatter

2009-05-16 Thread Darin Cox
] On Behalf Of Darin Cox Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 7:33 AM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] BackScatter Todd, you might want to check SenderBase. We had a similar issue a month ago. SenderBase had recorded a number of backscatter messages from a private list we

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] BackScatter

2009-05-16 Thread Todd Richards
Thanks Darin! From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Darin Cox Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 2:21 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] BackScatter Hi Todd, No, I was intending to set up a notification process to automatically

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] BackScatter

2009-05-16 Thread Todd Richards
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] BackScatter Hi Todd, I think grey listing prevents backscatter coming INTO your mail server, it does not prevent you getting on blacklists. If you are on a blacklist then I think you need to figure out how your smtp server is configured