RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: another SOBERing though

2005-11-17 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Andrew 8) p.s. Sorry for theshot yesterday Matt, but when I see fish in a barrel, I just can't help myself. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin CoxSent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 5:42 AMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: Re: [D

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2005-11-17 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
You can read about or get your own version of the password stealing app here: http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/pspv.html Andrew 8)

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2005-11-17 Thread Serge
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 6:36 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: another SOBERing though Wow! It's like 1995 - 2005 had never been. :-| ok, I must say I never worked with Declude Hijack. It's not simply this what we need now? Markus

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2005-11-17 Thread David Barker
Yes we are listening David B www.declude.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Serge Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 1:55 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: another SOBERing though hijack

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2005-11-17 Thread Markus Gufler
I was just thinking the same thing, that strictly going by file name would not be best. Well at least it would be ressource friendly. Some thoughts: Count attached file names but 1)ignore extensions like gif, jpg, pdf, ... or alternatively look only for known risky extensions like zip,

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2005-11-17 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: another SOBERing though Wow! It's like 1995 - 2005 had never been. :-| ok, I must say I never worked with Declude Hijack. It's not simply this what we need now? Markus From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

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2005-11-17 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
We are all listening Barry From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Colbeck, AndrewSent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 2:14 PMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: another SOBERing though It certainly does feel like deja vu all over

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2005-11-17 Thread george
: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: another SOBERing though We are all listening Barry From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Colbeck, Andrew Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 2:14 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE

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2005-11-17 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
George, Let's talk offline. I'll call you later. Barry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of george Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 3:45 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: another SOBERing though Barry

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2005-11-17 Thread Serge
? - Original Message - From: Markus Gufler To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 6:36 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: another SOBERing though

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2005-11-17 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
@declude.com Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 7:24 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: another SOBERing though I think one of the issues here is that Hijack was designed to solve a problem that existed due to omission on the part of IMail, but being a separate app

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2005-11-17 Thread Serge
17, 2005 11:31 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: another SOBERing though Serge, that's a misleading line of reasoning. Here's the thing: Auth on port 587 is the right best practice for ISPs (and some corporations) so that they can properly secure their MTA against

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2005-11-17 Thread Matt
- From: Colbeck, Andrew To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 11:31 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: another SOBERing though Serge, that's a misleading line of reasoning. Here's the thing: Auth

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2005-11-16 Thread Matt
Hmm, who would have thunk? Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF Success Date 12/24/2004 9:24 AM http://www.mail-archive.com/declude.junkmail@declude.com/msg22584.html IMO, the best way to stop forging is to stop zombie spammers. The way to do this is FIRST implement port 587 as AUTH-only, and

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2005-11-16 Thread Nick Hayer
Well Matt when I read the link I was figuring you were fessing up to how far off you were [are] on SPF - it was only until I read the end that I understood to what you were referring. :) -Nick Matt wrote: Hmm, who would have thunk? Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF Success Date

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2005-11-16 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: another SOBERing though Well Matt when I read the link I was figuring you were fessing up to how far off you were [are] on SPF - it was only until I read the end that I understood to what you were referring. :)-NickMatt

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2005-11-16 Thread Nick Hayer
;) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Nick Hayer Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 3:31 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: another SOBERing though Well Matt when I read the link I was figuring you

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2005-11-16 Thread John T \(Lists\)
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: another SOBERing though Nick, I thought at first that was the shortest message Matt ever wrote... then I realized it was because he had the luxury of quoting himself! Andrew ;) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

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2005-11-16 Thread Matt
into... Darin. - Original Message - From: Matt To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 6:18 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: another SOBERing though Hmm, who would have thunk? Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF Success Date

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2005-11-16 Thread Darin Cox
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 8:52 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: another SOBERing though Darin,I would pretty much skip over #1 except for some obvious things like not allowing the username to be the password, and having a minimum length of 4 or more