Re: [Declude.JunkMail] How to use URL file from Imail with Declude ??

2003-11-28 Thread Bill Landry
All IMail tests are run before Declude and can therefore be tracked by
JunkMail, with the single exception of the IMail Statistical Filtering test,
which is run by IMail after the message is received back from Declude and
just before the final delivery of the message to the recipient.

Bill
- Original Message - 
From: Alejandro Valenzuela [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2003 12:39 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] How to use URL file from Imail with Declude
??


Ok, on the first option, how it would work ??
Because the manual says that Declude JunkMail run
earlier that Imail filters...

So even if I add the Imail header, Declude will not detect it.
Or there is a way to change that scanning order ??



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Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2003 12:18 PM
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Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] How to use URL file from Imail with Declude
??


2 things you can do with filters. (Only available in JunkMail Pro.)

1. Have Imail add a header for the URL list and then filter on that header
and add weight.

2. Create a URLFILTER filter file in Declude from the Imail URL list. You
can do this by using Excel.

John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alejandro Valenzuela
 Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2003 11:04 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] How to use URL file from Imail with Declude ??

 I update the URL file in Imail by sending all not recognized SPAM
 to a mailbox then running the spam_sedeer utility

 Now, can Declude filter E-mail based on that file ??


 I am new to Declude, just testing it for two days now
 It seems good but have some emails that are not caught with
 Declude, and they are caught with email URL Filter.

 Any help would be appreciated..

 Thanks..


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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Subject and body is B

2003-11-28 Thread Bill Landry
Ditto for me, not a single message ever caught by this test.

Bill
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From: Kami Razvan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2003 1:14 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Subject and body is B


 Hi;

 I suggested body blank but frankly it has never been hit.  I think it is
 because an email body is NEVER blank.. It always has some code..

 I remember exchanging a blank email with Scott that was not detected with
 ISBLANK and that was his comment.

 Perhaps the test is run by doing a Length count of characters in the body
 and if they send a blank HTML email the body is never blank.

 Interesting that John has seen good result.. I don't remember seeing any..

 Regards,
 Kami

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 Yes, the BODY ISBLANK has done well for me.

 John Tolmachoff
 Engineer/Consultant/Owner
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  Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2003 12:11 PM
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  Hmm, nope, but I have also seen broken headers like you provided, but
  never with so much misplaced stuff in the header; from what Scott has
  previously mentioned, I would guess that the way your sample message
  is broken is that somewhere in the hops a mailserver put in an
  extraneous CR/LF.
 
  The usual broken message I see has a complete and well-formed header,
  but no body at all.  These messages are always sent from dsl/cable
  connections that are open relays, never a mail server. Perhaps Kami
  has seen this behaviour; I think it was he that suggested the BODY
  ISBLANK filter test.
 
  Andrew 8)
 
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   On a related note, I see rushes where the spam has no body and the
   same header appears from multiple open relays all at the same time;
   I think it's broken spamware.
 
  You mean like this: (That is the entire D file.)
  --
  -
  Received: from DAYTON [24.117.148.25] by mail.domain.net with ESMTP
(SMTPD32-8.04) id A9B350E0146; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 00:20:51 -0500
  htmltitleI will not defame New Orleans
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] EASYNET tests going away December 1

2003-11-28 Thread R. Scott Perry

if we comment out a test in global.cfg and leave its action in
default.junkmail
will there be any problems ? errors, performance issues, ...
No, there will be no problems in doing that, as far as Declude is 
concerned.  However, it may cause confusion later, if you see the test 
listed and are wondering why no action is being taken.

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Version / Internmediate Policy

2003-11-28 Thread andyb
All this conversation about betas/releases, etc.

Scott, you have the patience of a saint at times.

Do what you think is best.  You can never keep everyone happy all the time.

Andy

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 Yep, has happened to me a few times during beta testing. I'm
 investigating some issue, invest time to dig through logs, report the
 problem - just to be told oh, that was fixed in interim release xx.
 
 Duh! Thank's for warning me.

 Remember, though, that it was the same way back with just betas and
 released versions -- after a beta came out, if you reported a bug that we
 already knew about and had fixed, our answer would be Oh, we know about
 that, the next beta will take care of it.  That would be worse -- you
lose
 the same as you do with interim releases (investing time to analyze and
 report the problem), but also don't get a fix right away.

 Yes, it would be nice if we had a list of bug fixes for this very purpose
 (Known bugs).  That is something we will look into.  If it is done,
 though, it will most likely just be These are the bugs that are fixed in
 the latest interim release, without specifying which interim release
fixed
 it, and the list could be updated less frequently than the interim
releases
 come out.

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[Declude.JunkMail] IPBYPASS limitations

2003-11-28 Thread Gufler Markus

Hi Scott

Second the manual we can have up to 20 IPBYPASS entries.
At the moment I'm already over this limit:

IPBYPASS194.242.192.2   # local providers
IPBYPASS194.242.192.3  
IPBYPASS194.242.196.14 
IPBYPASS213.21.176.244 
IPBYPASS213.21.176.246 
IPBYPASS195.254.224.4   

IPBYPASS193.70.192.33   # Virgilio
IPBYPASS193.70.192.38   
IPBYPASS193.70.192.46   
IPBYPASS193.70.192.51   
IPBYPASS193.70.192.52   
IPBYPASS193.70.192.62   
IPBYPASS193.70.192.127  

IPBYPASS212.216.176.58  # Tin
IPBYPASS212.216.176.185
IPBYPASS212.216.176.187 
IPBYPASS212.216.176.206 
IPBYPASS212.216.176.221 
IPBYPASS212.216.176.222 
IPBYPASS212.216.176.223 
IPBYPASS212.216.176.224

The first block are MTAs from other local ISPs where we have setup numerous mail 
forwardings. So we can search for open relays also on this forwarded messages.

The seconds and third block are groups of MTAs of two large italian ISPs. All this IPs 
are listed now for over 3 months in more or less IP blacklists.

The problem is, that we receive much more legit messages from this IPs as spam. 
(usually over 95% is legit). More then 75% of our FPs are FPs because they triggered 
this IP blacklist tests.

Until yesterday I've tried to counterweight this points with an IP filterlist that 
gives some negative points.

The problem is that numerous IP blacklist providers are adding and removing part of 
this IP ranges daily/weekly. So it's nearly impossible to define an accurate 
counterweight for the IP filter file. If I substract too much this will let pass more 
spam messages. Otherwise I will have much more FPs.

The problem can be solved by adding this IPs to thy IPBYPASS list, because so all this 
IPs are ignored and we can try to catch spams with the remaining tests.

Would it by possible to specify IPBYPASS-ranges or to use an external IP file?

Markus 
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude does not see email

2003-11-28 Thread R. Scott Perry

I'm running IMail v8.02 on Windows 2000 Server SP4 etc, and am now running 
declude.exe 1.76i28; today I saw an HTML style spam come through with no 
declude headers.  The log did have one line for this message:

11/27/2003 15:23:41 Q875e044a00daa57c Could not lock 
D:\IMail\spool\Q875e044a00daa57c.SMD; timed out (j=2).
This will occur if either the D*.SMD file disappears when Declude is 
starting, or if a program is locking it for more than 30 seconds.  This 
could happen, for example, if you are running an on-access virus scanner 
that deletes the D*.SMD file.  But that can't be the case here, because the 
E-mail was delivered.  More likely is that something locked the file for 
some reason.

My query for Scott is: as of interim 28, declude.exe now always logs 
something if the message couldn't be handled, correct?  So perhaps there 
is a grammar or pattern in the log we can use to find these error messages?
No.  The latest interim release just logs to C:\Declude.log for every 
E-mail that is processed.  It does not record any information about 
processing the E-mail.

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] IPBYPASS limitations

2003-11-28 Thread R. Scott Perry

 Actually, you mean that you are at the limit, and several of
 your entries aren't being used.
Can't understand...?
You said At the moment I'm already over this limit -- because you have 21 
IPBYPASS entries.  My comment was that because you have more than 20 
entries, some of them will not be used by Declude JunkMail.  It will only 
use 20 of them.

 IPBYPASS isn't used for IPs that are listed in blacklists --
 that's what whitelisting is for.
But if I whitelist an IP or IP-range wouldn't this whitelist the message
generally and avoid that other spam-tests are able to catch the spam?
Correct.

One other option might be to use HOPHIGH 1, which will scan an extra hop 
for all E-mail.  Then, the negative weighting for their IP will help the 
E-mail, but if the next IP is bad, then the E-mail will be more likely to 
get caught.

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] EASYNET tests going away December 1

2003-11-28 Thread Andy Schmidt

Hi,

Yesterday's results of my EasyNet replacement candidates:

TEST # FAILED   Percentage

AHBLDOMAINS710.95%
AHBLPROXIES...7359.82%
AHBLSOURCES...3514.69% (reliable, so far)

NJABLDUL..2743.66% (many duplicates with SORBS-DUL)
NJABLPROXIES1,085...14.49%
NJABLRELAYS...1181.58%
NJABLSOURCES..2653.54% (reliable, so far)

SORBS-DUL...2,664...35.58%
SORBS-HTTP7379.84% (proxies)
SORBS-MISC.801.07% (proxies)
SORBS-SOCKS...873...11.66% (proxies)
SORBS-SMTP..50.07%
SORBS-ZOMBIE...300.40%

A) Do NOT use SORBS-SPAM.  As they point out on their web site, it has been
infested with the mail servers of most major providers by the simple fact
that virus-infected customer systems have been sending arbitrary emails,
implicating the mail sever of the provider.  I tested it for two days and
kept lowering the weight until I realized that it was not at all helpful in
trying to distinguish spam from legitimate mail.

B) I have been holding and/or deleting ANYTHING proxy for many weeks now
and so far never had any customer complaints about lost emails.

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

HM Systems Software, Inc.
600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203
Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206

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[Declude.JunkMail] holding not deleting

2003-11-28 Thread andyb
Hi,

I have one customer that has a virtual domain.  Even though this
[EMAIL PROTECTED] is receiving email that exceeds my DELETE threshold,
the messagages are only being HELD.

Any idea why this is happening?  I don't have any special rules setup for
this customer under Declude that I can find.

Thanks, andy

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] EASYNET tests going away December 1

2003-11-28 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
 AHBLDOMAINS710.95%
 AHBLPROXIES...7359.82%
 AHBLSOURCES...3514.69% (reliable, so far)
 
 NJABLDUL..2743.66% (many duplicates with SORBS-DUL)
 NJABLPROXIES1,085...14.49%
 NJABLRELAYS...1181.58%
 NJABLSOURCES..2653.54% (reliable, so far)

For clarification, can you please post what you exact configuration is for
those, in other words what return codes? Example, what exactly is
AHBLDOMAINS as there is no test in the sample Global.cfg file and on the
AHBL site, there is no code name that. http://www.ahbl.org/responsecodes.php

John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
eServices For You


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] holding not deleting

2003-11-28 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Logs and headers.

John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
eServices For You


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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of andyb
 Sent: Friday, November 28, 2003 8:26 AM
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 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] holding not deleting
 
 Hi,
 
 I have one customer that has a virtual domain.  Even though this
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] is receiving email that exceeds my DELETE
 threshold,
 the messagages are only being HELD.
 
 Any idea why this is happening?  I don't have any special rules setup for
 this customer under Declude that I can find.
 
 Thanks, andy
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] EASYNET tests going away December 1

2003-11-28 Thread Andy Schmidt

NJABLRELAYS ip4rdnsbl.njabl.org 127.0.0.2   4
0
NJABLDULip4rdnsbl.njabl.org 127.0.0.3   4
0
NJABLSOURCES ip4r   dnsbl.njabl.org 127.0.0.4   7
0
NJABLMULTI  ip4rdnsbl.njabl.org 127.0.0.5   5
0
NJABLFORMMAIL ip4r dnsbl.njabl.org  127.0.0.8   8
0
NJABLPROXIES ip4r   dnsbl.njabl.org 127.0.0.9   8
0

AHBLRELAYS  ip4rdnsbl.ahbl.org  127.0.0.2   5
0
AHBLPROXIES ip4rdnsbl.ahbl.org  127.0.0.3   8
0
AHBLSOURCES ip4rdnsbl.ahbl.org  127.0.0.4   7
0
AHBLPSSLip4rdnsbl.ahbl.org  127.0.0.5   5
0
AHBLFORMMAIL ip4r   dnsbl.ahbl.org  127.0.0.6   8
0
AHBLENDUSER ip4rdnsbl.ahbl.org  127.0.0.9   5
0
AHBLEXEMPT  ip4rexemptions.ahbl.org *   -8
0

SORBS-HTTP  ip4rdnsbl.sorbs.net 127.0.0.2   8
0
SORBS-SOCKS ip4rdnsbl.sorbs.net 127.0.0.3   8
0
SORBS-MISC  ip4rdnsbl.sorbs.net 127.0.0.4   8
0
SORBS-SMTP  ip4rdnsbl.sorbs.net 127.0.0.5   5
0
#SORBS-SPAM ip4rdnsbl.sorbs.net 127.0.0.6   3
0
SORBS-WEB   ip4rdnsbl.sorbs.net 127.0.0.7   8
0
SORBS-BLOCK ip4rdnsbl.sorbs.net 127.0.0.8   6
0
SORBS-ZOMBIE ip4r   dnsbl.sorbs.net 127.0.0.9   6
0
SORBS-DUL   ip4rdnsbl.sorbs.net 127.0.0.10  5
0

AHBLDOMAINS rhsbl   rhsbl.ahbl.org  *   5   0
SORBS-BADCONF   rhsbl   rhsbl.sorbs.net 127.0.0.11  5
0
SORBS-NOMAILrhsbl   rhsbl.sorbs.net 127.0.0.12  7
0


Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

HM Systems Software, Inc.
600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203
Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206

http://www.HM-Software.com/


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff
(Lists)
Sent: Friday, November 28, 2003 11:31 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] EASYNET tests going away December 1


 AHBLDOMAINS710.95%
 AHBLPROXIES...7359.82%
 AHBLSOURCES...3514.69% (reliable, so far)
 
 NJABLDUL..2743.66% (many duplicates with 
 SORBS-DUL) NJABLPROXIES1,085...14.49%
 NJABLRELAYS...1181.58%
 NJABLSOURCES..2653.54% (reliable, so far)

For clarification, can you please post what you exact configuration is for
those, in other words what return codes? Example, what exactly is
AHBLDOMAINS as there is no test in the sample Global.cfg file and on the
AHBL site, there is no code name that. http://www.ahbl.org/responsecodes.php

John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
eServices For You


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] EASYNET tests going away December 1

2003-11-28 Thread John Shacklett
I think this might be on http://www.ahbl.org/using.php in the rhsbl section.
I have been trying

AHBL-DOMAINSrhsbl   rhsbl.ahbl.org  *   5   0

for a couple of days, but I don't have any stats to share today.

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 AHBLDOMAINS710.95%
 AHBLPROXIES...7359.82%
 AHBLSOURCES...3514.69% (reliable, so far)

 NJABLDUL..2743.66% (many duplicates with SORBS-DUL)
 NJABLPROXIES1,085...14.49%
 NJABLRELAYS...1181.58%
 NJABLSOURCES..2653.54% (reliable, so far)

For clarification, can you please post what you exact configuration is for
those, in other words what return codes? Example, what exactly is
AHBLDOMAINS as there is no test in the sample Global.cfg file and on the
AHBL site, there is no code name that. http://www.ahbl.org/responsecodes.php

John Tolmachoff
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] EASYNET tests going away December 1

2003-11-28 Thread Sheldon Koehler
Andy,

What weight to you hold and delete on?

Sheldon


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Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] EASYNET tests going away December 1



NJABLRELAYS ip4r dnsbl.njabl.org 127.0.0.2 4
0
NJABLDUL ip4r dnsbl.njabl.org 127.0.0.3 4
0
NJABLSOURCES ip4r dnsbl.njabl.org 127.0.0.4 7
0
NJABLMULTI ip4r dnsbl.njabl.org 127.0.0.5 5
0
NJABLFORMMAIL ip4r dnsbl.njabl.org 127.0.0.8 8
0
NJABLPROXIES ip4r dnsbl.njabl.org 127.0.0.9 8
0

AHBLRELAYS ip4r dnsbl.ahbl.org 127.0.0.2 5
0
AHBLPROXIES ip4r dnsbl.ahbl.org 127.0.0.3 8
0
AHBLSOURCES ip4r dnsbl.ahbl.org 127.0.0.4 7
0
AHBLPSSL ip4r dnsbl.ahbl.org 127.0.0.5 5
0
AHBLFORMMAIL ip4r dnsbl.ahbl.org 127.0.0.6 8
0
AHBLENDUSER ip4r dnsbl.ahbl.org 127.0.0.9 5
0
AHBLEXEMPT ip4r exemptions.ahbl.org * -8
0

SORBS-HTTP ip4r dnsbl.sorbs.net 127.0.0.2 8
0
SORBS-SOCKS ip4r dnsbl.sorbs.net 127.0.0.3 8
0
SORBS-MISC ip4r dnsbl.sorbs.net 127.0.0.4 8
0
SORBS-SMTP ip4r dnsbl.sorbs.net 127.0.0.5 5
0
#SORBS-SPAM ip4r dnsbl.sorbs.net 127.0.0.6 3
0
SORBS-WEB ip4r dnsbl.sorbs.net 127.0.0.7 8
0
SORBS-BLOCK ip4r dnsbl.sorbs.net 127.0.0.8 6
0
SORBS-ZOMBIE ip4r dnsbl.sorbs.net 127.0.0.9 6
0
SORBS-DUL ip4r dnsbl.sorbs.net 127.0.0.10 5
0

AHBLDOMAINS rhsbl rhsbl.ahbl.org * 5 0
SORBS-BADCONF rhsbl rhsbl.sorbs.net 127.0.0.11 5
0
SORBS-NOMAIL rhsbl rhsbl.sorbs.net 127.0.0.12 7
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[Declude.JunkMail] External Plus

2003-11-28 Thread Bill Morgan
Hi,

I am new to this news group but have been using Declude Junkmail for
some time.  I am running Server 2003 with Imail v8.x and declude v1.75.
I am having trouble with an externalplus test that I wrote.  It works
fine except when someone uses the Imail Web based mail server.  With the
web based mail program, I get a one line entry in my decXXX.log file for
a message that fails the externalplus test.  Here is an example.

11/28/2003 11:33:04 Q36a680c0e9c WAMCHECK:10 .  Total weight = 10

Here is a normal failed wamcheck entry:

11/28/2003 11:38:53 Q8828e4b500feaa4d Msg failed WAMCHECK (Message
failed WAMCHECK: 100.). Action=HOLD.

Does anyone know a what is happening or a solution to this problem?

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] holding not deleting

2003-11-28 Thread R. Scott Perry

I have one customer that has a virtual domain.  Even though this
[EMAIL PROTECTED] is receiving email that exceeds my DELETE threshold,
the messagages are only being HELD.
Any idea why this is happening?  I don't have any special rules setup for
this customer under Declude that I can find.
The log file entries are very helpful here -- they show what test(s) the 
E-mail failed, and what actions were taken for each one.  If you see 
something you do not understand -- for example, the WEIGHT20 test using 
HOLD instead of DELETE -- you can change the LOGLEVEL LOW line in the 
\IMail\Declude\global.cfg file to LOGLEVEL HIGH temporarily.  Declude 
JunkMail will then record which config file it uses to determine the 
actions to take.

For example, this can happen if you have a gateway domain, in which case 
the \IMail\Declude\global.cfg file will be used (since IMail treats the 
E-mail as outgoing mail, since it isn't stored on the local server), but 
you may expect the $default$.JunkMail file to be used.

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Subject and body is B

2003-11-28 Thread Omar K.
Everyone pats John on his back and assure him they have all gone through
similar experiences :)

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HANGING HEAD IN SHAME

After reviewing 4 days worth of logs, it appears BODY ISBLANK has not caught
any message. I had assumed it had as I was no longer seeing messages with a
blank body. They must have either stopped or been caught by other tests and
deleted or just passed. 

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[Declude.JunkMail] Declude log files

2003-11-28 Thread Bud Durland
I have a program that reads and archives iMail log files to a SQL 
server.  I'd like to add the capability to archive Declude log files in 
a meaningful manner.  I'm studying the log files (LOGLEVEL set to MID), 
and I've noticed something I don't understand.  For example (lines 
edited for brevity):

11/28/2003 11:56:50 Q7e4a069f00606ad1 SPAMCOP:7 SORBS-SPAM:8 MAILPOLICE-BULK:10

11/28/2003 11:56:50 Q7e4a069f00606ad1 Msg failed SPAMCOP ... Action=IGNORE.

11/28/2003 11:56:50 Q7e4a069f00606ad1 Msg failed SORBS-SPAM  Action=IGNORE.

11/28/2003 11:56:50 Q7e4a069f00606ad1 Msg failed MAILPOLICE-BULK... Action=IGNORE.

11/28/2003 11:56:50 Q7e4a069f00606ad1 Msg failed AHBLDNSBL  Action=IGNORE.

11/28/2003 11:56:50 Q7e4a069f00606ad1 Msg failed WEIGHT10  Action=IGNORE.

11/28/2003 11:56:50 Q7e4a069f00606ad1 Msg failed WEIGHT20  Action=IGNORE.

11/28/2003 11:56:50 Q7e4a069f00606ad1 R1 Message OK

11/28/2003 11:56:50 Q7e4a069f00606ad1 Msg failed SPAMCOP  Action=DELETE.

11/28/2003 11:56:50 Q7e4a069f00606ad1 Msg failed SORBS-SPAM  Action=IGNORE.

11/28/2003 11:56:50 Q7e4a069f00606ad1 Msg failed MAILPOLICE-BULK  Action=WARN.

11/28/2003 11:56:50 Q7e4a069f00606ad1 Msg failed AHBLDNSBL ... Action=IGNORE.

11/28/2003 11:56:50 Q7e4a069f00606ad1 Msg failed WEIGHT10  Action=HOLD.

11/28/2003 11:56:50 Q7e4a069f00606ad1 Msg failed WEIGHT20  Action=DELETE.

11/28/2003 11:56:50 Q7e4a069f00606ad1 Deleting spam from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

11/28/2003 11:56:50 Q7e4a069f00606ad1 Subject: A holiday gift anyone would love - digital camera

11/28/2003 11:56:50 Q7e4a069f00606ad1 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  IP: 64.88.151.68 ID: 

This entry appears to be processing file Q7e4a069f00606ad1.  However, it 
looks like the file was process twice, and that it passed on the first 
run.  I'm especially curious about why the first time out, WEIGHT20's 
action is IGNORE, but on the second it's action is (correctly) set to 
DELETE.   Might I have something mis-configured?

--

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For sale: Parachute.  Like new, used once.  Small stain.

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude log files

2003-11-28 Thread R. Scott Perry

This entry appears to be processing file Q7e4a069f00606ad1.  However, it 
looks like the file was process twice, and that it passed on the first 
run.  I'm especially curious about why the first time out, WEIGHT20's 
action is IGNORE, but on the second it's action is (correctly) set to 
DELETE.   Might I have something mis-configured?
That is because there were two recipients, whose settings were different.

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] External Plus

2003-11-28 Thread R. Scott Perry

I am new to this news group but have been using Declude Junkmail for
some time.  I am running Server 2003 with Imail v8.x and declude v1.75.
I am having trouble with an externalplus test that I wrote.  It works
fine except when someone uses the Imail Web based mail server.  With the
web based mail program, I get a one line entry in my decXXX.log file for
a message that fails the externalplus test.  Here is an example.
11/28/2003 11:33:04 Q36a680c0e9c WAMCHECK:10 .  Total weight = 10

Here is a normal failed wamcheck entry:

11/28/2003 11:38:53 Q8828e4b500feaa4d Msg failed WAMCHECK (Message
failed WAMCHECK: 100.). Action=HOLD.
Does anyone know a what is happening or a solution to this problem?
Are you saying that when E-mail is sent with web messaging, only the Total 
weight line above appears in the log file, but not the Msg failed line 
(but that for other E-mails, both appear)?

I believe the Msg failed line should always appear for tests that are 
triggered, if the weight for the test is not equal to 0.

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] holding not deleting

2003-11-28 Thread andyb
Hi,

I'm holding on 7, deleting on 14 (I didn't change the labels on the tests,
they still say WEIGHT10 for HOLD  and WEIGHT20 for DELETE).  Here, the
weight is 18 and should delete, but does not.  I see in Spam review that it
has exceeded the DELETE threshold also, but it is not being deleted.

This is only happening for this *one* customer who has a virtual domain.
Thanks, ANdy

Here is what spam review reports:
X-RBL-Warning: SPAMCOP: Blocked - see
http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?69.6.42.52
X-RBL-Warning: EASYNET-DNSBL: Blacklisted by easynet.nl DNSBL -
http://blackholes.easynet.nl/errors.html
X-RBL-Warning: SBL: http://www.spamhaus.org/SBL/sbl.lasso?query=SBL6636
X-RBL-Warning: WEIGHT10: Weight of 18 reaches or exceeds the limit of 10.
X-RBL-Warning: IPNOTINMX:
X-RBL-Warning: MYFILTER: Message failed MYFILTER test (17)
X-RBL-Warning: Total weight: 11

Log file entry
11/28/2003 12:52:24 Q8b540ec MYFILTER:11 .  Total weight = 11
11/28/2003 12:52:24 Q8b540ec Msg failed IPNOTINMX (). Action=WARN.
11/28/2003 12:52:24 Q8b540ec Msg failed MYFILTER (Message failed MYFILTER
test (17)). Action=WARN.
11/28/2003 12:52:24 Q8b540ec Msg failed WEIGHT10 (Weight of 11 reaches or
exceeds the limit of 7.). Action=HOLD.
11/28/2003 12:52:24 Q8b540ec Subject: Learn a new Language in 10 days
11/28/2003 12:52:24 Q8b540ec From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

2nd example

Log file
11/28/2003 12:47:40 Q8a3b11e MYFILTER:10 .  Total weight = 10
11/28/2003 12:47:40 Q8a3b11e Msg failed IPNOTINMX (). Action=WARN.
11/28/2003 12:47:40 Q8a3b11e Msg failed MYFILTER (Message failed MYFILTER
test (6)). Action=WARN.
11/28/2003 12:47:40 Q8a3b11e Msg failed WEIGHT10 (Weight of 10 reaches or
exceeds the limit of 7.). Action=HOLD.
11/28/2003 12:47:40 Q8a3b11e Subject: Easy Mortgage Shopping, Apply Free,
Any Credit Accepted
11/28/2003 12:47:40 Q8a3b11e From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  IP: 208.7.129.160 ID: A05A8049D

Spam review
X-RBL-Warning: EASYNET-DNSBL: Blacklisted by easynet.nl DNSBL -
http://blackholes.easynet.nl/errors.html
X-RBL-Warning: SBL: http://www.spamhaus.org/SBL/sbl.lasso?query=SBL9187
X-RBL-Warning: WEIGHT10: Weight of 14 reaches or exceeds the limit of 10.
X-RBL-Warning: IPNOTINMX:
X-RBL-Warning: MYFILTER: Message failed MYFILTER test (6)
X-RBL-Warning: Total weight: 10


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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 28, 2003 11:37 AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] holding not deleting


 Logs and headers.

 John Tolmachoff
 Engineer/Consultant/Owner
 eServices For You


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  [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of andyb
  Sent: Friday, November 28, 2003 8:26 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] holding not deleting
 
  Hi,
 
  I have one customer that has a virtual domain.  Even though this
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] is receiving email that exceeds my DELETE
  threshold,
  the messagages are only being HELD.
 
  Any idea why this is happening?  I don't have any special rules setup
for
  this customer under Declude that I can find.
 
  Thanks, andy
 
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] holding not deleting

2003-11-28 Thread R. Scott Perry

I'm holding on 7, deleting on 14 (I didn't change the labels on the tests,
they still say WEIGHT10 for HOLD  and WEIGHT20 for DELETE).
Are you sure?

X-RBL-Warning: WEIGHT10: Weight of 18 reaches or exceeds the limit of 10.
This line in the headers means that Declude JunkMail used the WARN action 
for the WEIGHT10 test.  But:

Log file entry
11/28/2003 12:52:24 Q8b540ec MYFILTER:11 .  Total weight = 11
11/28/2003 12:52:24 Q8b540ec Msg failed IPNOTINMX (). Action=WARN.
11/28/2003 12:52:24 Q8b540ec Msg failed MYFILTER (Message failed MYFILTER
test (17)). Action=WARN.
11/28/2003 12:52:24 Q8b540ec Msg failed WEIGHT10 (Weight of 11 reaches or
exceeds the limit of 7.). Action=HOLD.
11/28/2003 12:52:24 Q8b540ec Subject: Learn a new Language in 10 days
11/28/2003 12:52:24 Q8b540ec From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
This shows that it used the HOLD action.  Are you *positive* that these log 
file entries correspond with that E-mail?

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] EASYNET tests going away December 1

2003-11-28 Thread Andy Schmidt

Hi,

I report subject at 8.

I bounce at 10.

I delete at 20.
I also delete MAILFROM, PERCENT and all -proxies

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

HM Systems Software, Inc.
600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203
Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206

http://www.HM-Software.com/


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Sent: Friday, November 28, 2003 12:29 PM
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Andy,

What weight to you hold and delete on?

Sheldon


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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 28, 2003 8:43 AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] EASYNET tests going away December 1



NJABLRELAYS ip4r dnsbl.njabl.org 127.0.0.2 4
0
NJABLDUL ip4r dnsbl.njabl.org 127.0.0.3 4
0
NJABLSOURCES ip4r dnsbl.njabl.org 127.0.0.4 7
0
NJABLMULTI ip4r dnsbl.njabl.org 127.0.0.5 5
0
NJABLFORMMAIL ip4r dnsbl.njabl.org 127.0.0.8 8
0
NJABLPROXIES ip4r dnsbl.njabl.org 127.0.0.9 8
0

AHBLRELAYS ip4r dnsbl.ahbl.org 127.0.0.2 5
0
AHBLPROXIES ip4r dnsbl.ahbl.org 127.0.0.3 8
0
AHBLSOURCES ip4r dnsbl.ahbl.org 127.0.0.4 7
0
AHBLPSSL ip4r dnsbl.ahbl.org 127.0.0.5 5
0
AHBLFORMMAIL ip4r dnsbl.ahbl.org 127.0.0.6 8
0
AHBLENDUSER ip4r dnsbl.ahbl.org 127.0.0.9 5
0
AHBLEXEMPT ip4r exemptions.ahbl.org * -8
0

SORBS-HTTP ip4r dnsbl.sorbs.net 127.0.0.2 8
0
SORBS-SOCKS ip4r dnsbl.sorbs.net 127.0.0.3 8
0
SORBS-MISC ip4r dnsbl.sorbs.net 127.0.0.4 8
0
SORBS-SMTP ip4r dnsbl.sorbs.net 127.0.0.5 5
0
#SORBS-SPAM ip4r dnsbl.sorbs.net 127.0.0.6 3
0
SORBS-WEB ip4r dnsbl.sorbs.net 127.0.0.7 8
0
SORBS-BLOCK ip4r dnsbl.sorbs.net 127.0.0.8 6
0
SORBS-ZOMBIE ip4r dnsbl.sorbs.net 127.0.0.9 6
0
SORBS-DUL ip4r dnsbl.sorbs.net 127.0.0.10 5
0

AHBLDOMAINS rhsbl rhsbl.ahbl.org * 5 0
SORBS-BADCONF rhsbl rhsbl.sorbs.net 127.0.0.11 5
0
SORBS-NOMAIL rhsbl rhsbl.sorbs.net 127.0.0.12 7
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Subject and body is B

2003-11-28 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
 Everyone pats John on his back and assure him they have all gone through
 similar experiences :)

Oh, I feel so much better now, thanks.

Actually, I found another one this morning. Turns out though it is a badly
broken header to where the body (html) ends up seen in the header.

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude log files

2003-11-28 Thread Bud Durland
R. Scott Perry wrote:


This entry appears to be processing file Q7e4a069f00606ad1.  However, 
it looks like the file was process twice, and that it passed on the 
first run.  I'm especially curious about why the first time out, 
WEIGHT20's action is IGNORE, but on the second it's action is 
(correctly) set to DELETE.   Might I have something mis-configured?


That is because there were two recipients, whose settings were different. 


Now I know I must have something set up wrong.  We're using Declude 
JunkMail lite, and to my knowledge there is only one set of 
configuration files (global.cfg and $default$.junkmail).  The message is 
question (as far as I can tell) was addressed to only one recipient, 
though I was doing some debugging using iMail's copy-to feature to 
send copied of e-mails to a filecopy type address.

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude log files

2003-11-28 Thread R. Scott Perry

Now I know I must have something set up wrong.  We're using Declude 
JunkMail lite, and to my knowledge there is only one set of configuration 
files (global.cfg and $default$.junkmail).  The message is question (as 
far as I can tell) was addressed to only one recipient, though I was doing 
some debugging using iMail's copy-to feature to send copied of e-mails 
to a filecopy type address.
When the Copyall account is enabled, it adds an extra recipient to the 
E-mail.  So the actions for the copyall account and the actual recipient 
will be used.

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] External Plus

2003-11-28 Thread Bill Morgan
What you see below is the only entry in the log file.  Here is a log
entry for a message that normally fails the external plus:

11/28/2003 01:01:05 Qf2af9e4c010ec80f NOABUSE:2 nIPNOTINMX:-3
SNIFFER2:10 WAMCHECK:10 .  Total weight = 19
11/28/2003 01:01:05 Qf2af9e4c010ec80f Msg failed NOABUSE (Not supporting
[EMAIL PROTECTED]). Action=IGNORE.
11/28/2003 01:01:05 Qf2af9e4c010ec80f Msg failed SNIFFER2 (Message
failed SNIFFER2: 63.). Action=IGNORE.
11/28/2003 01:01:05 Qf2af9e4c010ec80f Msg failed WAMCHECK (Message
failed WAMCHECK: 100.). Action=IGNORE.
11/28/2003 01:01:05 Qf2af9e4c010ec80f Msg failed WEIGHT10 (Weight of 19
reaches or exceeds the limit of 10.). Action=HOLD.
11/28/2003 01:01:05 Qf2af9e4c010ec80f Msg failed WEIGHT15 (Weight of 19
reaches or exceeds the limit of 15.). Action=IGNORE.
11/28/2003 01:01:05 Qf2af9e4c010ec80f Subject: One Day Only:  After
Thanksgiving Event!
11/28/2003 01:01:05 Qf2af9e4c010ec80f From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
IP: 199.181.77.19 ID: 


But if a message is whitelisted, it seems to work okay in web messaging:

11/28/2003 09:14:17 Q2eb30ba0ccc WAMCHECK:10 .  Total weight = 10
11/28/2003 09:14:17 Q2eb30ba0ccc E-mail whitelisted - automatically
passing all spam tests [Whitelisting E-mail per externalplus program]

Bill

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] External Plus



I am new to this news group but have been using Declude Junkmail for 
some time.  I am running Server 2003 with Imail v8.x and declude v1.75.

I am having trouble with an externalplus test that I wrote.  It works 
fine except when someone uses the Imail Web based mail server.  With 
the web based mail program, I get a one line entry in my decXXX.log 
file for a message that fails the externalplus test.  Here is an 
example.

11/28/2003 11:33:04 Q36a680c0e9c WAMCHECK:10 .  Total weight = 10

Here is a normal failed wamcheck entry:

11/28/2003 11:38:53 Q8828e4b500feaa4d Msg failed WAMCHECK (Message 
failed WAMCHECK: 100.). Action=HOLD.

Does anyone know a what is happening or a solution to this problem?

Are you saying that when E-mail is sent with web messaging, only the
Total 
weight line above appears in the log file, but not the Msg failed
line 
(but that for other E-mails, both appear)?

I believe the Msg failed line should always appear for tests that are 
triggered, if the weight for the test is not equal to 0.

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] holding not deleting

2003-11-28 Thread andyb
Yes, they correspond.  I checked the name, Q8b540ec.SMD, etc.  Same in both
spam review and the log file.  That's how I found the specific log file
entry.


This is only happening for this one email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks, Andy

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Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] holding not deleting



 I'm holding on 7, deleting on 14 (I didn't change the labels on the
tests,
 they still say WEIGHT10 for HOLD  and WEIGHT20 for DELETE).

 Are you sure?

 X-RBL-Warning: WEIGHT10: Weight of 18 reaches or exceeds the limit of 10.

 This line in the headers means that Declude JunkMail used the WARN action
 for the WEIGHT10 test.  But:

 Log file entry
 11/28/2003 12:52:24 Q8b540ec MYFILTER:11 .  Total weight = 11
 11/28/2003 12:52:24 Q8b540ec Msg failed IPNOTINMX (). Action=WARN.
 11/28/2003 12:52:24 Q8b540ec Msg failed MYFILTER (Message failed MYFILTER
 test (17)). Action=WARN.
 11/28/2003 12:52:24 Q8b540ec Msg failed WEIGHT10 (Weight of 11 reaches or
 exceeds the limit of 7.). Action=HOLD.
 11/28/2003 12:52:24 Q8b540ec Subject: Learn a new Language in 10 days
 11/28/2003 12:52:24 Q8b540ec From:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 This shows that it used the HOLD action.  Are you *positive* that these
log
 file entries correspond with that E-mail?

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] holding not deleting

2003-11-28 Thread andyb
In $junkmail$.junkmail

I have

WEIGHT10HOLD
WEIGHT20DELETE

All of the other tests are WARN.

In Global.cfg

all tests are WARN.

Is that correct?  Still, the issue seems to be confined to this one
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks, Andy
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Sent: Friday, November 28, 2003 1:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] holding not deleting



 I'm holding on 7, deleting on 14 (I didn't change the labels on the
tests,
 they still say WEIGHT10 for HOLD  and WEIGHT20 for DELETE).

 Are you sure?

 X-RBL-Warning: WEIGHT10: Weight of 18 reaches or exceeds the limit of 10.

 This line in the headers means that Declude JunkMail used the WARN action
 for the WEIGHT10 test.  But:

 Log file entry
 11/28/2003 12:52:24 Q8b540ec MYFILTER:11 .  Total weight = 11
 11/28/2003 12:52:24 Q8b540ec Msg failed IPNOTINMX (). Action=WARN.
 11/28/2003 12:52:24 Q8b540ec Msg failed MYFILTER (Message failed MYFILTER
 test (17)). Action=WARN.
 11/28/2003 12:52:24 Q8b540ec Msg failed WEIGHT10 (Weight of 11 reaches or
 exceeds the limit of 7.). Action=HOLD.
 11/28/2003 12:52:24 Q8b540ec Subject: Learn a new Language in 10 days
 11/28/2003 12:52:24 Q8b540ec From:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 This shows that it used the HOLD action.  Are you *positive* that these
log
 file entries correspond with that E-mail?

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] holding not deleting

2003-11-28 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
 Here is what spam review reports:
 X-RBL-Warning: SPAMCOP: Blocked - see
 http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?69.6.42.52
 X-RBL-Warning: EASYNET-DNSBL: Blacklisted by easynet.nl DNSBL -
 http://blackholes.easynet.nl/errors.html
 X-RBL-Warning: SBL: http://www.spamhaus.org/SBL/sbl.lasso?query=SBL6636
 X-RBL-Warning: WEIGHT10: Weight of 18 reaches or exceeds the limit of 10.
 X-RBL-Warning: IPNOTINMX:
 X-RBL-Warning: MYFILTER: Message failed MYFILTER test (17)
 X-RBL-Warning: Total weight: 11

Is this what you are looking at, the 17 here:

X-RBL-Warning: MYFILTER: Message failed MYFILTER test (17)

That is the line number in the MYFILTER test that caused it to be caught,
not the weight.

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] holding not deleting

2003-11-28 Thread R. Scott Perry

Yes, they correspond.  I checked the name, Q8b540ec.SMD, etc.  Same in both
spam review and the log file.  That's how I found the specific log file
entry.
What version of Declude are you running (\IMail\Declude -diag from a 
command prompt will show you)?

I've never heard of any cases where Declude JunkMail logged that it would 
use the HOLD action (and did), but also used the WARN action.

Also:

 X-RBL-Warning: WEIGHT10: Weight of 18 reaches or exceeds the limit of 10.

 11/28/2003 12:52:24 Q8b540ec Msg failed WEIGHT10 (Weight of 11 reaches or
 exceeds the limit of 7.). Action=HOLD.
note that the log file shows the weight as 11, but the E-mail headers shows 
the weight as 18.  But wait, there is more:

X-RBL-Warning: WEIGHT10: Weight of 18 reaches or exceeds the limit of 10.
X-RBL-Warning: Total weight: 11
Now, we see two different weights.

Could the E-mail be going through 2 different mailservers running Declude?

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] holding not deleting

2003-11-28 Thread R. Scott Perry
 X-RBL-Warning: WEIGHT10: Weight of 18 reaches or exceeds the limit of 10.
11/28/2003 12:52:24 Q8b540ec Msg failed WEIGHT10 (Weight of 11 reaches or
exceeds the limit of 7.). Action=HOLD.
Something really weird is going on here.  The E-mail header shows the 
WEIGHT10 test as catch mail with a weight of 10 or higher, but the log file 
shows it as catching mail with a weight of 7 or higher.  The WEIGHT10 test 
can do one or the other, but not both.

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] holding not deleting

2003-11-28 Thread andyb
I'm looking at Weight of 18 reaches or exceeds the limit of 10.

It it is 18, it also exceeds 14, the limit I delete at

Thanks, andy

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 28, 2003 2:29 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] holding not deleting


  Here is what spam review reports:
  X-RBL-Warning: SPAMCOP: Blocked - see
  http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?69.6.42.52
  X-RBL-Warning: EASYNET-DNSBL: Blacklisted by easynet.nl DNSBL -
  http://blackholes.easynet.nl/errors.html
  X-RBL-Warning: SBL: http://www.spamhaus.org/SBL/sbl.lasso?query=SBL6636
  X-RBL-Warning: WEIGHT10: Weight of 18 reaches or exceeds the limit of
10.
  X-RBL-Warning: IPNOTINMX:
  X-RBL-Warning: MYFILTER: Message failed MYFILTER test (17)
  X-RBL-Warning: Total weight: 11

 Is this what you are looking at, the 17 here:

 X-RBL-Warning: MYFILTER: Message failed MYFILTER test (17)

 That is the line number in the MYFILTER test that caused it to be caught,
 not the weight.

 John Tolmachoff
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[Declude.JunkMail] Announce: Message Sniffer Peer-Server Wide Beta

2003-11-28 Thread Pete McNeil
Anyone testing the Message Sniffer add-in to Declude should consider
testing with the new wide-beta version V2-2b. You can download this
version from our news/updates page at:

http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/NewsUpdates.html

The top news item describes the program in more detail. What is probably
most relevant about this new version is that the peer-server technology
significantly reduces resource use under high system loads. This
development addresses recent discussions about the high cost of body
filters. Message Sniffer's advanced pattern matching engine makes body
filters practical - but recent growth in the size of the rulebase file
(more than 27000 active rules) has caused problems on some system.

If you have tried Message Sniffer in the past and been concerned about
the additional CPU, I/O, and RAM use then you should be pleased with the
new version.

We are consistently achieving the following results with this new
version:

90K+ Msgs/Mo.
Win NT4, P2/450Mhz, 256M ram, Mirrored 4GB IDE HD.
Imail 6x, Declude, McAfee
Rule Strength Threshold 0.1 (See Live Statistics on our site).
Average CPU = 40%

Prior to V2-2b, our Rule Strength Threshold was 0.7 and our average CPU
was 70%.

(Reduced Rule Strength Threshold = many more active rules)

Under load, the first message processed by a cluster of active Message
Sniffer instances will take a combined 700-1100ms (on this system).
Subsequent messages processed by the same group typically take a
combined 60ms or less. (Based on recent log data).

How it works:

Briefly, when a single instance is active the program operates very much
as the current version of Message Sniffer. However, when the system
becomes heavily loaded and multiple instances are active, the
peer-server technology causes the active instances to cluster into
client-server groups. The server instance loads the rulebase and handles
the expensive tasks while the client instances quietly wait for their
messages to be scanned. The result is much higher throughput without a
signficant increase in system resource use.

Hope this helps,

Thanks,
_M

Pete McNeil (Madscientist)
President, MicroNeil Research Corporation
Chief SortMonster, www.SortMonster.com
VOX: 703-406-2016
FAX: 703-406-2017

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] holding not deleting

2003-11-28 Thread andyb
1.76i6

I'm only running one email server.

Do you want me to send me my config files ( I do have a support contract).

Thank, Andy

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From: R. Scott Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 28, 2003 2:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] holding not deleting



 Yes, they correspond.  I checked the name, Q8b540ec.SMD, etc.  Same in
both
 spam review and the log file.  That's how I found the specific log file
 entry.

 What version of Declude are you running (\IMail\Declude -diag from a
 command prompt will show you)?

 I've never heard of any cases where Declude JunkMail logged that it would
 use the HOLD action (and did), but also used the WARN action.

 Also:

   X-RBL-Warning: WEIGHT10: Weight of 18 reaches or exceeds the limit of
10.
  
   11/28/2003 12:52:24 Q8b540ec Msg failed WEIGHT10 (Weight of 11
reaches or
   exceeds the limit of 7.). Action=HOLD.

 note that the log file shows the weight as 11, but the E-mail headers
shows
 the weight as 18.  But wait, there is more:

 X-RBL-Warning: WEIGHT10: Weight of 18 reaches or exceeds the limit of 10.
 X-RBL-Warning: Total weight: 11

 Now, we see two different weights.

 Could the E-mail be going through 2 different mailservers running Declude?

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] holding not deleting

2003-11-28 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Andy, what is your global.cfg line that produces the total in the header?
It doesn't look line mine, and SpamReview has a very specific requirement to
report the correct value, e.g.

XOUTHEADER  X-Note: Total spam weight of this E-mail is %WEIGHT%.

(my implementation of IMail is as a gateway, so everything is OUT.  You
may be using XINHEADER.)

Also, how about taking apart the rest of the log and your config files and
adding up the math manually?

Andrew 8)

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Sent: Friday, November 28, 2003 11:51 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] holding not deleting


I'm looking at Weight of 18 reaches or exceeds the limit of 10.

It it is 18, it also exceeds 14, the limit I delete at

Thanks, andy

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From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 28, 2003 2:29 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] holding not deleting


  Here is what spam review reports:
  X-RBL-Warning: SPAMCOP: Blocked - see
  http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?69.6.42.52
  X-RBL-Warning: EASYNET-DNSBL: Blacklisted by easynet.nl DNSBL -
  http://blackholes.easynet.nl/errors.html
  X-RBL-Warning: SBL: http://www.spamhaus.org/SBL/sbl.lasso?query=SBL6636
  X-RBL-Warning: WEIGHT10: Weight of 18 reaches or exceeds the limit of
10.
  X-RBL-Warning: IPNOTINMX:
  X-RBL-Warning: MYFILTER: Message failed MYFILTER test (17)
  X-RBL-Warning: Total weight: 11

 Is this what you are looking at, the 17 here:

 X-RBL-Warning: MYFILTER: Message failed MYFILTER test (17)

 That is the line number in the MYFILTER test that caused it to be caught,
 not the weight.

 John Tolmachoff
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] holding not deleting

2003-11-28 Thread andyb
I have the weight10 set to HOLD at 7
weight20 test set to DELETE at 14

weight10 and weight20 are just labels, that's all

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  X-RBL-Warning: WEIGHT10: Weight of 18 reaches or exceeds the limit of
10.
  11/28/2003 12:52:24 Q8b540ec Msg failed WEIGHT10 (Weight of 11 reaches
or
 exceeds the limit of 7.). Action=HOLD.

 Something really weird is going on here.  The E-mail header shows the
 WEIGHT10 test as catch mail with a weight of 10 or higher, but the log
file
 shows it as catching mail with a weight of 7 or higher.  The WEIGHT10 test
 can do one or the other, but not both.

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] holding not deleting

2003-11-28 Thread R. Scott Perry

I have the weight10 set to HOLD at 7
weight20 test set to DELETE at 14
weight10 and weight20 are just labels, that's all
I would urge you to rename them to WEIGHT7 and WEIGHT14, as they will 
likely cause confusion down the line.  But it still doesn't explain:

  X-RBL-Warning: WEIGHT10: Weight of 18 reaches or exceeds the limit of 10.
this line.  If the WEIGHT10 test is set up as WEIGHT10 weight x x 7 0, 
you should see ... limit of 7 in the line above.

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] holding not deleting

2003-11-28 Thread andyb
Hi,

I sent the config files ot [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks, andy

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 1.76i6
 
 I'm only running one email server.
 
 Do you want me to send me my config files ( I do have a support
contract).

 If you could send the config files, that would be helpful.

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] holding not deleting

2003-11-28 Thread andyb

Here is the config file section:

XINHEADER   X-RBL-Warning: Total weight: %WEIGHT%
XOUTHEADER  X-RBL-Warning: Total weight: %WEIGHT%
XINHEADER   X-Note: Total spam weight of this E-mail is %WEIGHT%.
XINHEADER   X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by Declude JunkMail (www.declude.com) 
for spam.
XINHEADER   X-Spam-Tests-Failed: %TESTSFAILED% [%WEIGHT%]
XOUTHEADER  X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by Declude JunkMail (www.declude.com) 
for spam.
XSENDER ON
XSPOOLNAME  OFF
XOUTHEADER  Organization: Thumpernet 
XOUTHEADER  X-Note: Please report abuse to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
#IPBYPASS   127.0.0.1


-- Original Message --
From: Colbeck, Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 12:01:30 -0800

Andy, what is your global.cfg line that produces the total in the header?
It doesn't look line mine, and SpamReview has a very specific requirement to
report the correct value, e.g.

XOUTHEADER X-Note: Total spam weight of this E-mail is %WEIGHT%.

(my implementation of IMail is as a gateway, so everything is OUT.  You
may be using XINHEADER.)

Also, how about taking apart the rest of the log and your config files and
adding up the math manually?

Andrew 8)

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] holding not deleting


I'm looking at Weight of 18 reaches or exceeds the limit of 10.

It it is 18, it also exceeds 14, the limit I delete at

Thanks, andy

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 28, 2003 2:29 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] holding not deleting


  Here is what spam review reports:
  X-RBL-Warning: SPAMCOP: Blocked - see
  http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?69.6.42.52
  X-RBL-Warning: EASYNET-DNSBL: Blacklisted by easynet.nl DNSBL -
  http://blackholes.easynet.nl/errors.html
  X-RBL-Warning: SBL: http://www.spamhaus.org/SBL/sbl.lasso?query=SBL6636
  X-RBL-Warning: WEIGHT10: Weight of 18 reaches or exceeds the limit of
10.
  X-RBL-Warning: IPNOTINMX:
  X-RBL-Warning: MYFILTER: Message failed MYFILTER test (17)
  X-RBL-Warning: Total weight: 11

 Is this what you are looking at, the 17 here:

 X-RBL-Warning: MYFILTER: Message failed MYFILTER test (17)

 That is the line number in the MYFILTER test that caused it to be caught,
 not the weight.

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] holding not deleting

2003-11-28 Thread R. Scott Perry

I sent the config files ot [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The only thing that makes sense here is that the E-mail is going through 
another server running Declude JunkMail.  Otherwise:

X-RBL-Warning: WEIGHT10: Weight of 18 reaches or exceeds the limit of 10.
X-RBL-Warning: Total weight: 11
The WEIGHT10 test would have the wrong total weight of the E-mail, and the 
wrong weight for the test.  The chances of some type of bug in Declude 
JunkMail changing the trigger weight of the test from 7 to 10 -- the 
default value -- is extremely small.  The chances of that happening *and* 
Declude JunkMail corrupting the actual weight from 11 to 18 and then back 
to 11 is nearly non-existent.

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] holding not deleting

2003-11-28 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Can you post the full header for that message?

John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of andyb
 Sent: Friday, November 28, 2003 12:25 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] holding not deleting
 
 
 Here is the config file section:
 
 XINHEADER X-RBL-Warning: Total weight: %WEIGHT%
 XOUTHEADERX-RBL-Warning: Total weight: %WEIGHT%
 XINHEADER X-Note: Total spam weight of this E-mail is %WEIGHT%.
 XINHEADER X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by Declude JunkMail
 (www.declude.com) for spam.
 XINHEADER X-Spam-Tests-Failed: %TESTSFAILED% [%WEIGHT%]
 XOUTHEADERX-Note: This E-mail was scanned by Declude JunkMail
 (www.declude.com) for spam.
 XSENDER   ON
 XSPOOLNAMEOFF
 XOUTHEADEROrganization: Thumpernet
 XOUTHEADERX-Note: Please report abuse to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 #IPBYPASS 127.0.0.1
 
 
 -- Original Message --
 From: Colbeck, Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 12:01:30 -0800
 
 Andy, what is your global.cfg line that produces the total in the header?
 It doesn't look line mine, and SpamReview has a very specific requirement
 to
 report the correct value, e.g.
 
 XOUTHEADER   X-Note: Total spam weight of this E-mail is %WEIGHT%.
 
 (my implementation of IMail is as a gateway, so everything is OUT.  You
 may be using XINHEADER.)
 
 Also, how about taking apart the rest of the log and your config files
 and
 adding up the math manually?
 
 Andrew 8)
 
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 From: andyb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, November 28, 2003 11:51 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] holding not deleting
 
 
 I'm looking at Weight of 18 reaches or exceeds the limit of 10.
 
 It it is 18, it also exceeds 14, the limit I delete at
 
 Thanks, andy
 
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 From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, November 28, 2003 2:29 PM
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] holding not deleting
 
 
   Here is what spam review reports:
   X-RBL-Warning: SPAMCOP: Blocked - see
   http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?69.6.42.52
   X-RBL-Warning: EASYNET-DNSBL: Blacklisted by easynet.nl DNSBL -
   http://blackholes.easynet.nl/errors.html
   X-RBL-Warning: SBL:
 http://www.spamhaus.org/SBL/sbl.lasso?query=SBL6636
   X-RBL-Warning: WEIGHT10: Weight of 18 reaches or exceeds the limit of
 10.
   X-RBL-Warning: IPNOTINMX:
   X-RBL-Warning: MYFILTER: Message failed MYFILTER test (17)
   X-RBL-Warning: Total weight: 11
 
  Is this what you are looking at, the 17 here:
 
  X-RBL-Warning: MYFILTER: Message failed MYFILTER test (17)
 
  That is the line number in the MYFILTER test that caused it to be
 caught,
  not the weight.
 
  John Tolmachoff
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  eServices For You
 
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] IPBYPASS limitations

2003-11-28 Thread R. Scott Perry

 You said At the moment I'm already over this limit --
 because you have 21 IPBYPASS entries.  My comment was that
 because you have more than 20 entries, some of them will not
 be used by Declude JunkMail.  It will only use 20 of them.
And if I discover other MTAs in this two IP blocks I would need much more 
then 21 entries...
Remember, though, that those MTAs aren't your mailservers.  The IPBYPASS 
option was created for IPs of your own gateway/backup mailservers.  The 
HOPHIGH option was designed for scanning IPs on multiple hops.

What you are doing here goes beyond the scope of what Declude JunkMail 
features were designed to do.  Declude is very flexible, but does have 
limitations.  We aren't yet aware of anyone with a total of 20 or more 
backup/gateway mailservers.  :)

 But if I whitelist an IP or IP-range wouldn't this whitelist the
 message generally and avoid that other spam-tests are able
 to catch the spam?

 Correct.
It's tecnical so difficult to change this IPBYPASS handling from fixed 20 
to something else?
It is not very difficult.  But it is difficult (costly, to be more precise, 
in terms of making very careful changes to the code and determining 
performance changes) to change it to an unlimited number of entries.  So we 
need to decide how important such a change is, the maximum value we can see 
our customers using in the near future, and the effect of any extra memory 
allocation.

What happens here is that if we say OK, this is a good use of the IPBYPASS 
feature, there are going to be people who use it like whitelisting, and 
want to enter hundreds or thousands of IPs.

 One other option might be to use HOPHIGH 1, which will scan
 an extra hop for all E-mail.  Then, the negative weighting
 for their IP will help the E-mail, but if the next IP is
 bad, then the E-mail will be more likely to get caught.
I use already a hophigh=1
Then if you do not use the IPBYPASS option, and an E-mail comes from one of 
those IPs, Declude JunkMail will still scan the next hop (which is what you 
are getting with IPBYPASS).

So I am not sure what IPBYPASS is accomplishing here.  In this case, with 
HOPHIGH 1, it will scan an extra hop -- but that probably will not 
accomplish much.  That would only have an effect if the ISP gets an E-mail 
from a good IP, which got the E-mail from a bad IP.  That should be 
quite rare.

It's simple to whitelist all messages from this IPs but an intelligent 
solution that allows to bypass entire IP ranges would by much better.
Perhaps a filter that checks the reverse DNS entry, such as REVDNS -10 
CONTAINS .example.com?

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[Declude.JunkMail] Anyone knowing this service

2003-11-28 Thread ISPHuset Nordic
http://www.unsubscribenow.org/

Are they a serius company `?

Benny

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Anyone knowing this service

2003-11-28 Thread Omar K.
It seems to me like spammers setup a service where we have to pay them in
order not get spammed ?!

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http://www.unsubscribenow.org/

Are they a serius company `?

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] holding not deleting

2003-11-28 Thread andyb
Ok,

But there is only one email server...I think the weird thing is that of the
20 virtual domains and 500 or so email boxes, this is only happening for
this *one* email address

Did you see anything else wrong in my config files?

Thanks, andy

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Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] holding not deleting



 I sent the config files ot [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 The only thing that makes sense here is that the E-mail is going through
 another server running Declude JunkMail.  Otherwise:

 X-RBL-Warning: WEIGHT10: Weight of 18 reaches or exceeds the limit of 10.
 X-RBL-Warning: Total weight: 11

 The WEIGHT10 test would have the wrong total weight of the E-mail, and the
 wrong weight for the test.  The chances of some type of bug in Declude
 JunkMail changing the trigger weight of the test from 7 to 10 -- the
 default value -- is extremely small.  The chances of that happening *and*
 Declude JunkMail corrupting the actual weight from 11 to 18 and then back
 to 11 is nearly non-existent.

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] %TESTSFAILED%

2003-11-28 Thread andyb
Would anyone care to post an example so I can see the math?  I still don't
get how to use IPNOTINMX properly.

Thanks, andy

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 28, 2003 1:24 AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] %TESTSFAILED%


In the case of IPNOTINMX and NOLEGITCONTENT, it works just the opposite. If
the messages fails, no weight is added or subtracted. If the test passes,
the negative weight is subtracted. Therefore, if one of those tests is
listed under %TESTSFAILED%, it means nothing was done.

Likewise, the actions for those tests should be INGNORE or LOG only, as
again if the tests failed means nothing. Only if the messages passes the
test is weight subtracted.

John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
eServices For You

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 Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2003 7:57 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] %TESTSFAILED%

 Scott
 I do not think it is a good idea to hide tests like ipnotinmx, because we
 wont know their weight contribution
 we need a hidetest when weight =0, but that will show the negative value
 when passed test
 something like %weightnot0test%  variable with all tests that contributed
 to
 the total weight (negative, positive, passed, or failed)
 this will show ipnotinmx and nonlegitcontent type tests whey they pass
 Hope you understand what i'm trying to say

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 Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 7:01 PM
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] %TESTSFAILED%


 
  Any progress/word on when certain tests can be excluded from this
 variable?
 
  This will be in the next release.  :)
 
  The next release will allow for an option HIDETESTS in the global.cfg
 file
  (the default setting will be HIDETESTS CATCHALLMAILS IPNOTINMX
  NOLEGITCONTENT), which will prevent those tests from showing up in the
  X-Spam-Tests-Failed: header.
 
  -Scott
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[Declude.JunkMail] SpamDomains

2003-11-28 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Why didn't this message fail spamdomains?

Received: from bzq-218-101-218.red.bezeqint.net [81.218.101.218] by
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] %TESTSFAILED%

2003-11-28 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
From the JunkMail Manual:

This test should NOT be used to detect spam! It will be triggered when an
E-mail is sent from an IP address that is not in its MX record. Although
this test will catch a lot of spam (perhaps 80%), it will also catch a lot
of legitimate mail (as quite a few larger mailers will send their mail
through a different mailserver than they use to receive mail). What this
test is good for is helping reduce false positives. By default, Declude
JunkMail will subtract several points from the weighting system when an
E-mail does not fail this test (which is very different from the way a spam
test normally works).

John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
eServices For You


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of andyb
 Sent: Friday, November 28, 2003 5:16 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] %TESTSFAILED%
 
 Would anyone care to post an example so I can see the math?  I still don't
 get how to use IPNOTINMX properly.
 
 Thanks, andy
 
 - Original Message -
 From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, November 28, 2003 1:24 AM
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] %TESTSFAILED%
 
 
 In the case of IPNOTINMX and NOLEGITCONTENT, it works just the opposite.
 If
 the messages fails, no weight is added or subtracted. If the test passes,
 the negative weight is subtracted. Therefore, if one of those tests is
 listed under %TESTSFAILED%, it means nothing was done.
 
 Likewise, the actions for those tests should be INGNORE or LOG only, as
 again if the tests failed means nothing. Only if the messages passes the
 test is weight subtracted.
 
 John Tolmachoff
 Engineer/Consultant/Owner
 eServices For You
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of serge
  Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2003 7:57 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] %TESTSFAILED%
 
  Scott
  I do not think it is a good idea to hide tests like ipnotinmx, because
 we
  wont know their weight contribution
  we need a hidetest when weight =0, but that will show the negative
 value
  when passed test
  something like %weightnot0test%  variable with all tests that
 contributed
  to
  the total weight (negative, positive, passed, or failed)
  this will show ipnotinmx and nonlegitcontent type tests whey they pass
  Hope you understand what i'm trying to say
 
  - Original Message -
  From: R. Scott Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 7:01 PM
  Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] %TESTSFAILED%
 
 
  
   Any progress/word on when certain tests can be excluded from this
  variable?
  
   This will be in the next release.  :)
  
   The next release will allow for an option HIDETESTS in the global.cfg
  file
   (the default setting will be HIDETESTS CATCHALLMAILS IPNOTINMX
   NOLEGITCONTENT), which will prevent those tests from showing up in
 the
   X-Spam-Tests-Failed: header.
  
   -Scott
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] holding not deleting

2003-11-28 Thread R. Scott Perry

 The only thing that makes sense here is that the E-mail is going through
 another server running Declude JunkMail.  Otherwise:

But there is only one email server...
But if I send you an E-mail, you may see references to a WEIGHT10 test 
here, as well as your WEIGHT10 test.  Remember that Declude can (and often 
is) running on two or more mailservers that handle a single E-mail.

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[Declude.JunkMail] Whitelist Auth ??

2003-11-28 Thread Alejandro Valenzuela
What this options does ??

  WHITELIST AUTH

Can't find it on the manual..

Thanks

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[Declude.JunkMail] How to white list some ISP ips ??

2003-11-28 Thread Alejandro Valenzuela

What would be the option to whitelist this domain ??
It comes from the IP of the conection..
Nothing to do with the real sender..

The header is..

X-Note: This E-mail was sent from dup-148-233-101-61.prodigy.net.mx 

I tried WHITELIST REVDNS .prodigy.net.mx 
Didn't work..

Thanks..


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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Filtering on Imail spam tests

2003-11-28 Thread nick
Hi,

Very sorry if this has been covered before - I searched 
and did not find a solution - 

I am having no luck filtering on 
HEADERS 0 CONTAINS X-IMAIL-SPAM-PHRASE
and on
HEADERS 0 CONTAIN X-IMAIL-SPAM-URL-DBL 

I cut and paste into an email from Imails phrase-list.txt 
send it to myself, the received email header is marked
X-IMAIL-SPAM-PHRASE: 1010fast com
 however DJMP is not triggered.

These Imail tests occur *after* DJM has run?

Thanks

 Nick Hayer

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelist Auth ??

2003-11-28 Thread Kevin Bilbee
It will whitelist email from authenticated users. YOu must be using Imail 8
for this option to work.


Kevin Bilbee

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 What this options does ??

   WHITELIST AUTH

 Can't find it on the manual..

 Thanks

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] How to white list some ISP ips ??

2003-11-28 Thread Kevin Bilbee
Is this a user of yours that authenticates? If it is and you are on Imail
8.x user Whitelist Auth.

I would not reccomend whitleising dial up ip addresses.


Kevin Bilbee

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 What would be the option to whitelist this domain ??
 It comes from the IP of the conection..
 Nothing to do with the real sender..

 The header is..

 X-Note: This E-mail was sent from dup-148-233-101-61.prodigy.net.mx

 I tried WHITELIST REVDNS .prodigy.net.mx
 Didn't work..

 Thanks..


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[Declude.JunkMail] SKIPIFWEIGHT and MAXWEIGHT

2003-11-28 Thread Frederick Samarelli
Does any one have more information on these SKIPIFWEIGHT and MAXWEIGHT


Thanks.

Fred
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From: Nick Hayer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 10:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] improved performance using ramdrive?


 Frederick -

 I suggest you try the new feature in the latest intrim release
 that has these commands avail:
 SKIPIFWEIGHT and MAXWEIGHT

 Place your compensatory filters [ones that reduce scoring] in the
 global config ahead of the other filter files.

 For me frankly most of my filters do not even now run - the dns tests
 take care of the load so cpu use is way down

 -Nick



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  I have some big filters and see very little disk access.
 
  I don't think it would help.
 
  What Delcude uses is CPU CPU CPU CPU ...
 
 
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  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 9:21 AM
  Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] improved performance using ramdrive?
 
 
   Hi all,
  
   Anyone has experiences using a ramdrive for all declude exe, config
   and
  filter files?
  
   Markus
  
  
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] %TESTSFAILED%

2003-11-28 Thread serge
John
I understand how the ipnotinmx works
i just want an easy way (%variable%) to put in the header that will show all
tests that contributed to the total weight, and their individual
contribution
that mean if a mail passes ipnotinmx, then ipnotinmx (-3) should show in
the above %variable%
This can be a failed test, a passed test, a negative weight, or a positive
weight,
in summary, any test with a non zero weight added or substracted
It will save us going to the logs every time to see how the weight was
calculated

the above is even more important with the new option that will hide
ipnotinmx, since now, when we do not see ipnotinmx in testfailed, we know
that we have a -3
but if  we hide ipnotinmx, we will not know if it was passed or failed, and
wont know if it contributed to total weight.

- Original Message - 
From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 28, 2003 6:24 AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] %TESTSFAILED%


In the case of IPNOTINMX and NOLEGITCONTENT, it works just the opposite. If
the messages fails, no weight is added or subtracted. If the test passes,
the negative weight is subtracted. Therefore, if one of those tests is
listed under %TESTSFAILED%, it means nothing was done.

Likewise, the actions for those tests should be INGNORE or LOG only, as
again if the tests failed means nothing. Only if the messages passes the
test is weight subtracted.

John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
eServices For You

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of serge
 Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2003 7:57 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] %TESTSFAILED%

 Scott
 I do not think it is a good idea to hide tests like ipnotinmx, because we
 wont know their weight contribution
 we need a hidetest when weight =0, but that will show the negative value
 when passed test
 something like %weightnot0test%  variable with all tests that contributed
 to
 the total weight (negative, positive, passed, or failed)
 this will show ipnotinmx and nonlegitcontent type tests whey they pass
 Hope you understand what i'm trying to say

 - Original Message -
 From: R. Scott Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 7:01 PM
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] %TESTSFAILED%


 
  Any progress/word on when certain tests can be excluded from this
 variable?
 
  This will be in the next release.  :)
 
  The next release will allow for an option HIDETESTS in the global.cfg
 file
  (the default setting will be HIDETESTS CATCHALLMAILS IPNOTINMX
  NOLEGITCONTENT), which will prevent those tests from showing up in the
  X-Spam-Tests-Failed: header.
 
  -Scott
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SpamDomains

2003-11-28 Thread Bill Landry
Looks like it did fail the spamdomains test:

X-RBL-Warning: TESTS FAILED: SORBS-DUL, NOABUSE, NOPOSTMASTER, BADHEADERS,
WHITEFILTER1, SPAMCHECK, SPAMDOMAINS

Why do you ask, don't the log entries for this message support this?

Bill
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 28, 2003 5:24 PM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] SpamDomains


 Why didn't this message fail spamdomains?

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 http://www.dnsbl.sorbs.net/cgi-bin/lookup?IP=81.218.101.218
 X-RBL-Warning: NOABUSE: Not supporting [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 X-RBL-Warning: NOPOSTMASTER: Not supporting [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 X-RBL-Warning: BADHEADERS: This E-mail was sent from a broken mail client
 [8014000f].
 X-RBL-Warning: WHITEFILTER1: Message failed WHITEFILTER1 test (line 67,
 weight -5)
 X-RBL-Warning: SPAMCHECK: Message failed SPAMCHECK: 4.
 X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [81.218.101.218]
 X-Declude-Spoolname: Da88a13960090f6a9.SMD
 X-RBL-Warning: Total weight: 30
 X-RBL-Warning: TESTS FAILED: SORBS-DUL, NOABUSE, NOPOSTMASTER, BADHEADERS,
 WHITEFILTER1, SPAMCHECK, SPAMDOMAINS
 X-Note: This E-mail was sent from bzq-218-101-218.red.bezeqint.net
 ([81.218.101.218]).

 From the spamdomains.txt file:

 amazon.com
 ameritech.net yahoo.com
 aol.com netscape.net
 @att. .att.
 attbi.com
 bellatlantic.net verizon.net
 bellsouth.net
 charter.net
 china.com
 comcast.net
 compuserve. .aol.com
 concentric. .cnchost.com
 cox.net
 @cs.com .aol.com
 earthlink.
 email.it webmessenger.it
 excite.com excitenetwork.com
 geocities.com .yahoo.
 @go.com .go.com
 gte.net verizon.net
 hotmail.com msn.com
 juno.com untd.com
 lycos.com
 lycos.at spray.net
 mac.com apple.com
 mailcity.com lycos.com
 mindspring. earthlink.
 msn.com hotmail.com
 netscape.net aol.com
 netzero.com untd.com
 prodigy.net
 qwest. .uswest.
 rocketmail.com yahoo.
 .rr.com
 sbc.com
 sympatico.ca bellnexxia.net
 t-online.de t-online.com
 usa.net mx.net
 verizon.net .bellatlantic.
 wanadoo.fr
 @yahoo. .yahoo.
 zzn.com mailcentro.com
 @aol.ca

 @2die4.com outblaze.com
 @accountant.com outblaze.com
 @adexec.com outblaze.com
 @africamail.com outblaze.com
 @allergist.com outblaze.com
 @alumnidirector.com outblaze.com
 @archaeologist.com outblaze.com
 @arcticmail.com outblaze.com
 @artlover.com outblaze.com
 @asia.com outblaze.com
 @australiamail.com outblaze.com
 @berlin.com outblaze.com
 @bikerider.com outblaze.com
 @catlover.com outblaze.com
 @cheerful.com outblaze.com
 @chemist.com outblaze.com
 @clerk.com outblaze.com
 @cliffhanger.com outblaze.com
 @columnist.com outblaze.com
 @comic.com outblaze.com
 @consultant.com outblaze.com
 @counsellor.com outblaze.com
 @cutey.com outblaze.com
 @deliveryman.com outblaze.com
 @diplomats.com outblaze.com
 @doctor.com outblaze.com
 @doglover.com outblaze.com
 @dr.com outblaze.com
 @dublin.com outblaze.com
 @earthling.net outblaze.com
 @email.com outblaze.com
 @engineer.com outblaze.com
 @europe.com outblaze.com
 @execs.com outblaze.com
 @financier.com outblaze.com
 @gardener.com outblaze.com
 @geologist.com outblaze.com
 @graphic-designer.com outblaze.com
 @hairdresser.net outblaze.com
 @hot-shot.com outblaze.com
 @iname.com outblaze.com
 @inorbit.com outblaze.com
 @insurer.com outblaze.com
 @japan.com outblaze.com
 @journalist.com outblaze.com
 @lawyer.com outblaze.com
 @legislator.com outblaze.com
 @lobbyist.com outblaze.com
 @london.com outblaze.com
 @loveable.com outblaze.com
 @mad.scientist.com outblaze.com
 @madrid.com outblaze.com
 @mail.com outblaze.com
 @mindless.com outblaze.com
 @minister.com outblaze.com
 @moscowmail.com outblaze.com
 @munich.com outblaze.com
 @musician.org outblaze.com
 @myself.com outblaze.com
 @nycmail.com outblaze.com
 @optician.com outblaze.com
 @paris.com outblaze.com
 @pediatrician.com outblaze.com
 @playful.com outblaze.com
 @poetic.com outblaze.com
 @popstar.com outblaze.com
 @post.com outblaze.com
 @presidency.com outblaze.com
 @priest.com outblaze.com
 @programmer.net outblaze.com
 @publicist.com outblaze.com
 @realtyagent.com outblaze.com
 @registerednurses.com outblaze.com
 @repairman.com outblaze.com
 @representative.com outblaze.com
 @rescueteam.com outblaze.com
 @rome.com outblaze.com
 @saintly.com outblaze.com
 @samerica.com outblaze.com
 @sanfranmail.com 

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Filtering on Imail spam tests

2003-11-28 Thread Bill Landry
Check the placement of the IMail headers from one of these messages.  If the
IMail headers show up under all of the Declude messages, then that would
indicate that they are run after Declude, if above all of the Declude
headers, then they were run before passed onto Declude.  However, I think
that only the IMail Statistical Filtering test runs after Declude.

Let us know what you find...

Bill
- Original Message - 
From: nick  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 28, 2003 6:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Filtering on Imail spam tests


 Hi,

 Very sorry if this has been covered before - I searched
 and did not find a solution -

 I am having no luck filtering on
 HEADERS 0 CONTAINS X-IMAIL-SPAM-PHRASE
 and on
 HEADERS 0 CONTAIN X-IMAIL-SPAM-URL-DBL

 I cut and paste into an email from Imails phrase-list.txt
 send it to myself, the received email header is marked
 X-IMAIL-SPAM-PHRASE: 1010fast com
  however DJMP is not triggered.

 These Imail tests occur *after* DJM has run?

 Thanks

  Nick Hayer

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