Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Clarification

2004-01-21 Thread Dave Doherty
Scott- I think this is a great idea. Once we know a message has passed the delete limit, why would we want to keep testing it in routine operations? Of course, we'd need to be able to turn it off when needed for debugging or whatever, but it would save a lot of processing time under normal condit

RE: Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] Clarification

2004-01-21 Thread Todd Holt
I may seem small, but the SKIPIFWEIGHT functionality seems overly cumbersome to use. I don't like defining the same lines repeatedly for each test. I would like to place the HOLDIFWEIGHT and/or DELETEIFWEIGHT lines in the $default$.junkmail file. Or in any per domain/per user .junkmail file. Th

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF fix?

2004-01-21 Thread R. Scott Perry
Any progress on the fix for the syntax a:host.domain.name/nn Yes, it was fixed in the first interim release that was released on or after January 13. -Scott --- Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers. Declude

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Unintended Multiple User Whitelisting

2004-01-21 Thread R. Scott Perry
Here is a case where a message was NOT DELIVERED to either user because one user had it blocked (weight10=HOLD). Even though the second recipient has only IGNORE for all tests and the log file has "L2 Message OK," the message was not delivered but moved to the spam folder instead. Correct. That

Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] Clarification

2004-01-21 Thread Sanford Whiteman
> I'm thinking this could be accomplished by Declude passing in a > current score and having the individual external tests handle what > they do on their own. I'm thinking that this might already be > possible though, but I'm not sure about what order they are > processed in

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF fix?

2004-01-21 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi Scott: Any progress on the fix for the syntax a:host.domain.name/nn ? --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsub

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Unintended Multiple User Whitelisting

2004-01-21 Thread Bill
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] IP: 63.252.12.191 ID: 01/21/2004 18:25:50 Q188610910132b08a Tests failed [weight=94]: WAMCHECK=IGNORE MYFILTERPASS=IGNORE SPFFAIL=IGNORE WEIGHT10=IGNORE WEIGHT15=IGNORE WEIGHT20=IGNORE This is the Imail log (no reference to this message after the 4th line)

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Unintended Multiple User Whitelisting

2004-01-21 Thread R. Scott Perry
So if a message comes in for 50 users from say, [EMAIL PROTECTED], and any one of those users has it whitelisted, everybody gets it regardless of its failed tests? That is correct. That's how SMTP was designed. We did add a "bypasswhitelisting" option to help with this (where if the total weigh

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Unintended Multiple User Whitelisting

2004-01-21 Thread Bill
> > > >If a message comes in and is whitelisted by any of the recipients > >(using WHITELISTFILE in a user.junkmail file), the message gets > >whitelisted for all recipients! > > That is correct. That is by the design of SMTP, where a > single E-mail can > have multiple recipients -- but it

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Clarification

2004-01-21 Thread Matt
I think that ordering the grouping would be great, but group all of the text based filters together and let their order of appearance dictate when they get run.  Right now custom filters do work like that, and I did work carefully with my ordering and SKIPIFWEIGHT settings in order to improve p

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Clarification

2004-01-21 Thread R. Scott Perry
I'm not sure how much of an impact the RBL lookups have in terms of processing, but I'm thinking this is very small compared to the rest. If Declude doesn't yet do this, performance here could be improved by only querying an RBL once regardless of the code that you are looking for, so for ins

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] please help. Imail spool directory filling up

2004-01-21 Thread Bill
Title: Message I had a similar problem last month being caused by a beta release of SNIFFER.  There is a new final release version of SNIFFER available.  You also may want to just turn off SNIFFER (in your global.cfg file) to see if that is causing the problem   Bill -Original Mess

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] BADHEADERS on Message ID

2004-01-21 Thread R. Scott Perry
BADHEADERS caught the following E-mail for the Message ID. I'm not sure if this is an RFC issue or not though, thinking that it might be due to the fact that the ID starts with a period, or maybe because it includes a comma??? Could you clarify that this is definitely a valid BADHEADERS hit?

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Unintended Multiple User Whitelisting

2004-01-21 Thread R. Scott Perry
If a message comes in and is whitelisted by any of the recipients (using WHITELISTFILE in a user.junkmail file), the message gets whitelisted for all recipients! That is correct. That is by the design of SMTP, where a single E-mail can have multiple recipients -- but it is expected that the E-ma

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Clarification

2004-01-21 Thread Todd Holt
I can’t speak as to the internal organization of Junkmail.  It might be very difficult to separate the similar tests from each other.  Perhaps the similar tests could be grouped and the group could be placed in an order with other tests.   As to the tests we would like to see run first,

[Declude.JunkMail] Unintended Multiple User Whitelisting

2004-01-21 Thread Bill Morgan
Imail v8 Declude v1.77i22 I have found what I am assuming is unintended actions with whitelisting and multiple recipients: If a message comes in and is whitelisted by any of the recipients (using WHITELISTFILE in a user.junkmail file), the message gets whitelisted for all recipients! Another thi

[Declude.JunkMail] BADHEADERS on Message ID

2004-01-21 Thread Matt
Scott, BADHEADERS caught the following E-mail for the Message ID. I'm not sure if this is an RFC issue or not though, thinking that it might be due to the fact that the ID starts with a period, or maybe because it includes a comma??? Could you clarify that this is definitely a valid BADHEADER

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Per domain problem

2004-01-21 Thread Glenn Brooks
Ok thanks Scott, that makes sense.to confirm, but the only global.cfg file that will be used under any condition is the top level global.cfg file within the Imail/declude directory thanks again for all your support gb At 03:04 PM 1/21/2004 -0500, you wrote: My understanding, that once you

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HEader Whitelist help

2004-01-21 Thread R. Scott Perry
I can't get this whitelisted any suggestions? The path to the filter file is valid. HEADERS WHITELIST CONTAINSnewtonwall.com The "WHITELIST" option in filters requires the latest interim release (from http://www.declude.com/interim ).

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HEader Whitelist help

2004-01-21 Thread Matt
I was going to ask about this. If filters support this, only the most recent interim release could be used. I think this might have been Scott's way of announcing new functionality :) Matt Kris McElroy wrote: I can't get this whitelisted any suggestions? The path to the filter file is val

[Declude.JunkMail] HEader Whitelist help

2004-01-21 Thread Kris McElroy
I can't get this whitelisted any suggestions? The path to the filter file is valid. GLOBAL.CFG FILTER_GoodHEADERS filter D:\IMail\Declude\goodheaders.txt x 0 0 GOODHEADERS.TXT HEADERS WHITELIST CONTAINSnewtonwall.com Received: fr

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Clarification

2004-01-21 Thread Matt
Todd, The RBL's and the built in Declude tests are very efficient.  The RBL's also go off all at once essentially, so there is no good way to stagger them one by one. I think it would be great though if Declude allowed us to set a SKIPIFWEIGHT value for FROMFILE's, IPFILE's, SPAMDOMAIN's and

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Per domain problem

2004-01-21 Thread Glenn Brooks
Thanks Guys, After Scott looked the logs, Declude is performing as it should be. It was using the default.junkmail per the individual domain directory. I was just expecting that I could have individual global.cfg files per each domain and in turn could have different log files and filters, etc.

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelist

2004-01-21 Thread R. Scott Perry
Can I whitelist something like this: WHITELIST HEADERS Containsnewtonwall.com No, "WHITELIST HEADERS" is not defined, and "Contains" isn't used in whitelists. If you want to use a whitelist, you can use "WHITELIST ANYWHERE newtonwall.com" in the \IMail\Declude\global.cfg file. I

[Declude.JunkMail] Whitelist

2004-01-21 Thread Kris McElroy
Can I whitelist something like this: WHITELIST HEADERS Containsnewtonwall.com Thanks, Kris --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail t

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Per domain problem

2004-01-21 Thread R. Scott Perry
My understanding, that once you have a directory for a domain, you must have a $default$.junkmail file in there, otherwise no action will be taken at all. The per-domain config file (\IMail\Declude\example.com\$default$.JunkMail file) is actually not required. If a per-user config file exists, D

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Per domain problem

2004-01-21 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
> Once that is right, you just need to put in the folders your user.junkmail > files for each user that needs different settings than whats in the the > root > $default$.junkmail (i.e. you don't need a $default$.junkmail in each > domains > folder UNLESS you want different defaults specifically for

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Per domain problem

2004-01-21 Thread Tony Gray - Network Administrator
The per-domain folders need to be the official host name as in IMail, so if your setup is like this in Imail: Official host name: mail.domain1.com, alias: domain1.com Official host name: mail.domain2.com, alias: domain2.com ... then your folders for declude need to be: mail.domain1.com mail.domai

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] New "official" release

2004-01-21 Thread R. Scott Perry
Scott? Do you have an estimated timeframe for the newest "official" release? I'm seeing lots of betas go by with some cool features but I prefer to wait until they are all packaged into one. It is very hard to say. We do plan to have a new beta shortly (hopefully within 1-2 weeks), but can't say

[Declude.JunkMail] New "official" release

2004-01-21 Thread Sharyn Schmidt
Scott? Do you have an estimated timeframe for the newest "official" release? I'm seeing lots of betas go by with some cool features but I prefer to wait until they are all packaged into one. Sharyn We are the worldwide producer and marketer of the award winning Cruzan Single Barrel Rum, judged

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Clarification

2004-01-21 Thread Todd Holt
The following has been suggested before and is similar: - Allow the Declude admin to set the order of test processing and stop processing if the weight reaches a specified limit. Your concern at the time was: - If the admin places the tests in the wrong order it would be possible to exceed maximum

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Clarification

2004-01-21 Thread R. Scott Perry
Is there a test, in the works, that will end all processing of any further filters. Basically, exit all Declude processing, or is it best to use the SKIPWEIGHT, thanks, There isn't anything like that in the works now, but it is something that we may end up adding.

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Per domain problem

2004-01-21 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
First, try using $default$.junkmail as the file name. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Glenn Brooks > Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 7:05 AM > To: [EMAI

[Declude.JunkMail] please help. Imail spool directory filling up

2004-01-21 Thread Jeffrey Di Gregorio
    My spool directory just started filling up recently and Imail is not delivering any messages to local mailboxes.  It appears to be sending messages outbound.  I am using Imail v 7.07 with declude junkmail and virus 1.77 i12.  I have moved all the Q*, D* files from the spool directory

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Clarification

2004-01-21 Thread Keith Johnson
Scott, Is there a test, in the works, that will end all processing of any further filters. Basically, exit all Declude processing, or is it best to use the SKIPWEIGHT, thanks, Keith -Original Message- From: R. Scott Perry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Clarification

2004-01-21 Thread R. Scott Perry
That is all correct (just one note to clarify, though: END will stop processing that one filter, but other tests will run). -Scott At 10:35 AM 1/21/2004, Keith Johnson wrote: We are giving our Declude filters an overhaul this week, adding in all the functionality

[Declude.JunkMail] Clarification

2004-01-21 Thread Keith Johnson
We are giving our Declude filters an overhaul this week, adding in all the functionality of the new 'beta' tests and I wanted to ensure I am good on the following: Using Examples SKIPWEIGHT 70 MAXWEIGHT 60 MINWEIGHT 20 MAXWEIGHT: If during the run of the fi

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Per domain problem

2004-01-21 Thread R. Scott Perry
I have $default.junkmail$ files in each of the directories for each domain as well as global.cfg files. Any other suggestions, one client especially is running out of patience on this problem. Anyone at Declude have any ideas why the per-domain feature would not be working? The best way to det

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Per domain problem

2004-01-21 Thread Glenn Brooks
I have $default.junkmail$ files in each of the directories for each domain as well as global.cfg files. Any other suggestions, one client especially is running out of patience on this problem. Anyone at Declude have any ideas why the per-domain feature would not be working? gb At 11:54 PM 1/2

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Per domain problem

2004-01-21 Thread Kevin Bilbee
You meed to put a default.junkmail file in the directories. The golbal.config is just that global and can not be modified to work for just one domain. Kevin Bilbee > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Glenn Brooks > Sent: Tuesday, January 2

[Declude.JunkMail] Per domain problem

2004-01-21 Thread Glenn Brooks
I am not able to get the per domain feature of pro to work. Imail running about 60 domains About 5 of them need to have custom settings. domain1.com is the top level primary domain and all config files are in the declude directory E:\imail\declude\ inside the declude directory are directories