Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2 and DELETE continued
Not a high priority? Crap. I normally have about 1100 emails to fish through after the weekend, now I've got nearly 8,000 because of this delete bug. Maybe I should forward the difference to Declude, see how well their configs are set up. :) Thankfully the 7K+ of messages were caught with SpamAssassin which as of yet hasn't yeilded a false positive. Sam Andy Schmidt wrote: Hi, Yes, cross-posting seems like a good idea - so that we can monitor for developing patterns. Also, I did check my weight settings (I don't use the CATCHALL test) - and I don't think the previous explanations fit my scenario: WEIGHTKILL weight x x 20 0 WEIGHT10 weightrange x x 10 19 WEIGHT8 weightrange x x 8 9 WEIGHTHDR weightrange x x 5 7 WEIGHTFOOTER weightrange x x 5 7 I'm currently swamped - but eventually I'll have to find the time to identify a new case and then re-submit that one to their tech support reporting channels... Best Regards Andy Schmidt Phone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business) Fax:+1 201 934-9206 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Nick Hayer Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 08:47 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2 and DELETE continued On 1 Mar 2005 at 12:07, Andy Schmidt wrote: I have noticed from day one, that suddenly really obvious Spam that had failed countless tests and should have been deleted (with REALLY high weights) was actually being delivered. I have seen the same thing with v2.05, sent log snippits TWICE and have not had ANY response from Declude support. For me the bigger troubling issue is not that these spams are being passed its that Declude is not sharing its obvious bugs on the list - so like in this example there is no 'me too' when we encounter a problem - its like we are the lone ranger when we encounter a problem with the tech support folks telling us 'run debug'... Software has bugs - oh well - but not sharing these bugs with us is a much bigger problem Hopefully these are just growing pains with the new administration and not the way it will remain. For now any requests to tech support cc'd to the list? -Nick Hayer I had mentioned it on the list twice right after I was finally able to upgrade to 2.04 (after the crashes were fixed). I thought I was dreaming and have not yet found the time to debug it. Thanks for the pointer. If letting through high-weight Spam is "low priority" on the "to be fixed list", then I guess I just have different priorities G? Best Regards Andy Schmidt HM Systems Software, Inc. 600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203 Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846 Phone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business) Fax:+1 201 934-9206 http://www.HM-Software.com/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Fritz Squib Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 08:42 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2 and DELETE Apparently I missing something bloody obvious, but with 2.0 running it seems like my delete action doesn't work as expected any more. Running the latest 2.x release downloaded last night. --Global Config-- WEIGHT20 weight x x 20 0 WEIGHT30 weight x x 32 0 --Default.junkmail-- WEIGHT20 HOLD WEIGHT30 DELETE In a brief conversation with Declude the response I got was: "The problem is probably the change in the way the DELETE action works. In the past, it would delete the E-mail for all recipients. Now, it only deletes the E-mail for recipients that use the DELETE action." It still seems like the HOLD action is taking precedence over the DELETE action since mail with weight over my WEIGHT30 test winds up in the hold folder even though the log file says: 02/01/2005 12:25:06 Qbb6c48770128853b Msg failed WEIGHT30 (Weight of 44 reaches or exceeds the limit of 32.). Action="" I has sent Scott debug log files but I still haven't figure out what I'm missing. Yes there are a *few* per user .junkmail files, with an action of WARN, but most of the held mail is either not for them (nor are they CC'd or BCC'd as far as I can tell) and/or (may or may not be related) in the spam review application there is no To: field reported. I have also tried changing 'weight' to 'weightrange' with the appropriate scores, and still see the same results Anyone else ? Fritz --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To un
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2 and DELETE continued
On 1 Mar 2005 at 12:07, Andy Schmidt wrote: I have noticed from day one, that suddenly really obvious Spam that had failed countless tests and should have been deleted (with REALLY high weights) was actually being delivered. I have seen the same thing with v2.05, sent log snippits TWICE and have not had ANY response from Declude support. For me the bigger troubling issue is not that these spams are being passed its that Declude is not sharing its obvious bugs on the list - so like in this example there is no 'me too' when we encounter a problem - its like we are the lone ranger when we encounter a problem with the tech support folks telling us 'run debug'... Software has bugs - oh well - but not sharing these bugs with us is a much bigger problem Hopefully these are just growing pains with the new administration and not the way it will remain. For now any requests to tech support cc'd to the list? -Nick Hayer I had mentioned it on the list twice right after I was finally able to upgrade to 2.04 (after the crashes were fixed). I thought I was dreaming and have not yet found the time to debug it. Thanks for the pointer. If letting through high-weight Spam is low priority on the to be fixed list, then I guess I just have different priorities G? Best Regards Andy Schmidt HM Systems Software, Inc. 600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203 Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846 Phone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business) Fax:+1 201 934-9206 http://www.HM-Software.com/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fritz Squib Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 08:42 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2 and DELETE Apparently I missing something bloody obvious, but with 2.0 running it seems like my delete action doesn't work as expected any more. Running the latest 2.x release downloaded last night. --Global Config-- WEIGHT20 weight x x 20 0 WEIGHT30 weight x x 32 0 --Default.junkmail-- WEIGHT20 HOLD WEIGHT30 DELETE In a brief conversation with Declude the response I got was: The problem is probably the change in the way the DELETE action works. In the past, it would delete the E-mail for all recipients. Now, it only deletes the E-mail for recipients that use the DELETE action. It still seems like the HOLD action is taking precedence over the DELETE action since mail with weight over my WEIGHT30 test winds up in the hold folder even though the log file says: 02/01/2005 12:25:06 Qbb6c48770128853b Msg failed WEIGHT30 (Weight of 44 reaches or exceeds the limit of 32.). Action=DELETE. I has sent Scott debug log files but I still haven't figure out what I'm missing. Yes there are a *few* per user .junkmail files, with an action of WARN, but most of the held mail is either not for them (nor are they CC'd or BCC'd as far as I can tell) and/or (may or may not be related) in the spam review application there is no To: field reported. I have also tried changing 'weight' to 'weightrange' with the appropriate scores, and still see the same results Anyone else ? Fritz --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2 and DELETE continued
Hi, Yes, cross-posting seems like a good idea - so that we can monitor for developing patterns. Also, I did check my weight settings (I don't use the CATCHALL test) - and I don't think the previous explanations fit my scenario: WEIGHTKILL weight x x 20 0 WEIGHT10weightrange x x 10 19 WEIGHT8 weightrange x x 8 9 WEIGHTHDR weightrange x x 5 7 WEIGHTFOOTER weightrangex x 5 7 I'm currently swamped - but eventually I'll have to find the time to identify a new case and then re-submit that one to their tech support reporting channels... Best Regards Andy Schmidt Phone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business) Fax:+1 201 934-9206 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Hayer Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 08:47 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2 and DELETE continued On 1 Mar 2005 at 12:07, Andy Schmidt wrote: I have noticed from day one, that suddenly really obvious Spam that had failed countless tests and should have been deleted (with REALLY high weights) was actually being delivered. I have seen the same thing with v2.05, sent log snippits TWICE and have not had ANY response from Declude support. For me the bigger troubling issue is not that these spams are being passed its that Declude is not sharing its obvious bugs on the list - so like in this example there is no 'me too' when we encounter a problem - its like we are the lone ranger when we encounter a problem with the tech support folks telling us 'run debug'... Software has bugs - oh well - but not sharing these bugs with us is a much bigger problem Hopefully these are just growing pains with the new administration and not the way it will remain. For now any requests to tech support cc'd to the list? -Nick Hayer I had mentioned it on the list twice right after I was finally able to upgrade to 2.04 (after the crashes were fixed). I thought I was dreaming and have not yet found the time to debug it. Thanks for the pointer. If letting through high-weight Spam is low priority on the to be fixed list, then I guess I just have different priorities G? Best Regards Andy Schmidt HM Systems Software, Inc. 600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203 Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846 Phone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business) Fax:+1 201 934-9206 http://www.HM-Software.com/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fritz Squib Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 08:42 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2 and DELETE Apparently I missing something bloody obvious, but with 2.0 running it seems like my delete action doesn't work as expected any more. Running the latest 2.x release downloaded last night. --Global Config-- WEIGHT20 weight x x 20 0 WEIGHT30 weight x x 32 0 --Default.junkmail-- WEIGHT20 HOLD WEIGHT30 DELETE In a brief conversation with Declude the response I got was: The problem is probably the change in the way the DELETE action works. In the past, it would delete the E-mail for all recipients. Now, it only deletes the E-mail for recipients that use the DELETE action. It still seems like the HOLD action is taking precedence over the DELETE action since mail with weight over my WEIGHT30 test winds up in the hold folder even though the log file says: 02/01/2005 12:25:06 Qbb6c48770128853b Msg failed WEIGHT30 (Weight of 44 reaches or exceeds the limit of 32.). Action=DELETE. I has sent Scott debug log files but I still haven't figure out what I'm missing. Yes there are a *few* per user .junkmail files, with an action of WARN, but most of the held mail is either not for them (nor are they CC'd or BCC'd as far as I can tell) and/or (may or may not be related) in the spam review application there is no To: field reported. I have also tried changing 'weight' to 'weightrange' with the appropriate scores, and still see the same results Anyone else ? Fritz --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http
[Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2 and DELETE
Apparently I missing something bloody obvious, but with 2.0 running it seems like my delete action doesn't work as expected any more. Running the latest 2.x release downloaded last night. --Global Config-- WEIGHT20weight x x 20 0 WEIGHT30weight x x 32 0 --Default.junkmail-- WEIGHT20HOLD WEIGHT30DELETE In a brief conversation with Declude the response I got was: The problem is probably the change in the way the DELETE action works. In the past, it would delete the E-mail for all recipients. Now, it only deletes the E-mail for recipients that use the DELETE action. It still seems like the HOLD action is taking precedence over the DELETE action since mail with weight over my WEIGHT30 test winds up in the hold folder even though the log file says: 02/01/2005 12:25:06 Qbb6c48770128853b Msg failed WEIGHT30 (Weight of 44 reaches or exceeds the limit of 32.). Action=DELETE. I has sent Scott debug log files but I still haven't figure out what I'm missing. Yes there are a *few* per user .junkmail files, with an action of WARN, but most of the held mail is either not for them (nor are they CC'd or BCC'd as far as I can tell) and/or (may or may not be related) in the spam review application there is no To: field reported. I have also tried changing 'weight' to 'weightrange' with the appropriate scores, and still see the same results Anyone else ? Fritz Frederick P. Squib, Jr. Network Operations/Mail Administrator Citizens Telephone Company of Kecksburg http://www.wpa.net () ascii ribbon campaign - against html email /\- against microsoft attachments --- [This E-mail scanned by Citizens Internet Services with Declude Virus.] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2 and DELETE
Fritz, We've experienced the same problem as you and for us, it was narrowed down to the catchall account in Imail. If you have a catchall account in the Imail setup, Declude will not work correctly. After many emails to Declude about this, they confirmed to me this IS a problem and one of not a high priority to fix. We've reverted back to 1.82 until it's fixed. Also, Decludes' COMFIRM.CFG does not work correctly either when there is a catchall account. The local Declude will intercept any confirmation email that going to another Imail/Declude Confirm system (thus the email never reaches it's intended source. Again, response from Declude was: it's not a high priority. Erik -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fritz Squib Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 2:42 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2 and DELETE Apparently I missing something bloody obvious, but with 2.0 running it seems like my delete action doesn't work as expected any more. Running the latest 2.x release downloaded last night. --Global Config-- WEIGHT20weight x x 20 0 WEIGHT30weight x x 32 0 --Default.junkmail-- WEIGHT20HOLD WEIGHT30DELETE In a brief conversation with Declude the response I got was: The problem is probably the change in the way the DELETE action works. In the past, it would delete the E-mail for all recipients. Now, it only deletes the E-mail for recipients that use the DELETE action. It still seems like the HOLD action is taking precedence over the DELETE action since mail with weight over my WEIGHT30 test winds up in the hold folder even though the log file says: 02/01/2005 12:25:06 Qbb6c48770128853b Msg failed WEIGHT30 (Weight of 44 reaches or exceeds the limit of 32.). Action=DELETE. I has sent Scott debug log files but I still haven't figure out what I'm missing. Yes there are a *few* per user .junkmail files, with an action of WARN, but most of the held mail is either not for them (nor are they CC'd or BCC'd as far as I can tell) and/or (may or may not be related) in the spam review application there is no To: field reported. I have also tried changing 'weight' to 'weightrange' with the appropriate scores, and still see the same results Anyone else ? Fritz Frederick P. Squib, Jr. Network Operations/Mail Administrator Citizens Telephone Company of Kecksburg http://www.wpa.net () ascii ribbon campaign - against html email /\- against microsoft attachments --- [This E-mail scanned by Citizens Internet Services with Declude Virus.] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2 and DELETE
What exactly is the problem with the catchall account, and when is a fix expected? We haven't yet upgraded to 2.0 because of the periodic mention of problems with it on this list, but would like to as soon as all known issues are resolved. We don't have many nobody aliases, but we haven't been able to convince a couple of customers to remove them yet. Darin. - Original Message - From: Erik [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 8:54 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2 and DELETE Fritz, We've experienced the same problem as you and for us, it was narrowed down to the catchall account in Imail. If you have a catchall account in the Imail setup, Declude will not work correctly. After many emails to Declude about this, they confirmed to me this IS a problem and one of not a high priority to fix. We've reverted back to 1.82 until it's fixed. Also, Decludes' COMFIRM.CFG does not work correctly either when there is a catchall account. The local Declude will intercept any confirmation email that going to another Imail/Declude Confirm system (thus the email never reaches it's intended source. Again, response from Declude was: it's not a high priority. Erik -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fritz Squib Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 2:42 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2 and DELETE Apparently I missing something bloody obvious, but with 2.0 running it seems like my delete action doesn't work as expected any more. Running the latest 2.x release downloaded last night. --Global Config-- WEIGHT20 weight x x 20 0 WEIGHT30 weight x x 32 0 --Default.junkmail-- WEIGHT20 HOLD WEIGHT30 DELETE In a brief conversation with Declude the response I got was: The problem is probably the change in the way the DELETE action works. In the past, it would delete the E-mail for all recipients. Now, it only deletes the E-mail for recipients that use the DELETE action. It still seems like the HOLD action is taking precedence over the DELETE action since mail with weight over my WEIGHT30 test winds up in the hold folder even though the log file says: 02/01/2005 12:25:06 Qbb6c48770128853b Msg failed WEIGHT30 (Weight of 44 reaches or exceeds the limit of 32.). Action=DELETE. I has sent Scott debug log files but I still haven't figure out what I'm missing. Yes there are a *few* per user .junkmail files, with an action of WARN, but most of the held mail is either not for them (nor are they CC'd or BCC'd as far as I can tell) and/or (may or may not be related) in the spam review application there is no To: field reported. I have also tried changing 'weight' to 'weightrange' with the appropriate scores, and still see the same results Anyone else ? Fritz Frederick P. Squib, Jr. Network Operations/Mail Administrator Citizens Telephone Company of Kecksburg http://www.wpa.net () ascii ribbon campaign - against html email /\- against microsoft attachments --- [This E-mail scanned by Citizens Internet Services with Declude Virus.] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2 and DELETE
I should confirm my post... By the catchall account, I'm referring to the Copy All Mail enabled setting in IMAIL. Erik -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 3:04 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2 and DELETE What exactly is the problem with the catchall account, and when is a fix expected? We haven't yet upgraded to 2.0 because of the periodic mention of problems with it on this list, but would like to as soon as all known issues are resolved. We don't have many nobody aliases, but we haven't been able to convince a couple of customers to remove them yet. Darin. - Original Message - From: Erik [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 8:54 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2 and DELETE Fritz, We've experienced the same problem as you and for us, it was narrowed down to the catchall account in Imail. If you have a catchall account in the Imail setup, Declude will not work correctly. After many emails to Declude about this, they confirmed to me this IS a problem and one of not a high priority to fix. We've reverted back to 1.82 until it's fixed. Also, Decludes' COMFIRM.CFG does not work correctly either when there is a catchall account. The local Declude will intercept any confirmation email that going to another Imail/Declude Confirm system (thus the email never reaches it's intended source. Again, response from Declude was: it's not a high priority. Erik -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fritz Squib Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 2:42 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2 and DELETE Apparently I missing something bloody obvious, but with 2.0 running it seems like my delete action doesn't work as expected any more. Running the latest 2.x release downloaded last night. --Global Config-- WEIGHT20 weight x x 20 0 WEIGHT30 weight x x 32 0 --Default.junkmail-- WEIGHT20 HOLD WEIGHT30 DELETE In a brief conversation with Declude the response I got was: The problem is probably the change in the way the DELETE action works. In the past, it would delete the E-mail for all recipients. Now, it only deletes the E-mail for recipients that use the DELETE action. It still seems like the HOLD action is taking precedence over the DELETE action since mail with weight over my WEIGHT30 test winds up in the hold folder even though the log file says: 02/01/2005 12:25:06 Qbb6c48770128853b Msg failed WEIGHT30 (Weight of 44 reaches or exceeds the limit of 32.). Action=DELETE. I has sent Scott debug log files but I still haven't figure out what I'm missing. Yes there are a *few* per user .junkmail files, with an action of WARN, but most of the held mail is either not for them (nor are they CC'd or BCC'd as far as I can tell) and/or (may or may not be related) in the spam review application there is no To: field reported. I have also tried changing 'weight' to 'weightrange' with the appropriate scores, and still see the same results Anyone else ? Fritz Frederick P. Squib, Jr. Network Operations/Mail Administrator Citizens Telephone Company of Kecksburg http://www.wpa.net () ascii ribbon campaign - against html email /\- against microsoft attachments --- [This E-mail scanned by Citizens Internet Services with Declude Virus.] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2 and DELETE
I've run into this problem too. My solution was to setup another delete test two points lower than your original delete test. So with a WEIGHT30 test, setup a WEIGHT28 test with the action of delete. I don't know how reliable it is, but it worked for me. Jason - Original Message - From: Fritz Squib [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 7:42 AM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2 and DELETE Apparently I missing something bloody obvious, but with 2.0 running it seems like my delete action doesn't work as expected any more. Running the latest 2.x release downloaded last night. --Global Config-- WEIGHT20 weight x x 20 0 WEIGHT30 weight x x 32 0 --Default.junkmail-- WEIGHT20 HOLD WEIGHT30 DELETE In a brief conversation with Declude the response I got was: The problem is probably the change in the way the DELETE action works. In the past, it would delete the E-mail for all recipients. Now, it only deletes the E-mail for recipients that use the DELETE action. It still seems like the HOLD action is taking precedence over the DELETE action since mail with weight over my WEIGHT30 test winds up in the hold folder even though the log file says: 02/01/2005 12:25:06 Qbb6c48770128853b Msg failed WEIGHT30 (Weight of 44 reaches or exceeds the limit of 32.). Action=DELETE. I has sent Scott debug log files but I still haven't figure out what I'm missing. Yes there are a *few* per user .junkmail files, with an action of WARN, but most of the held mail is either not for them (nor are they CC'd or BCC'd as far as I can tell) and/or (may or may not be related) in the spam review application there is no To: field reported. I have also tried changing 'weight' to 'weightrange' with the appropriate scores, and still see the same results Anyone else ? Fritz Frederick P. Squib, Jr. Network Operations/Mail Administrator Citizens Telephone Company of Kecksburg http://www.wpa.net () ascii ribbon campaign - against html email /\- against microsoft attachments --- [This E-mail scanned by Citizens Internet Services with Declude Virus.] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2 and DELETE
Nope, not using that either. Fritz -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Erik Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 9:11 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2 and DELETE I should confirm my post... By the catchall account, I'm referring to the Copy All Mail enabled setting in IMAIL. Erik -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 3:04 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2 and DELETE What exactly is the problem with the catchall account, and when is a fix expected? We haven't yet upgraded to 2.0 because of the periodic mention of problems with it on this list, but would like to as soon as all known issues are resolved. We don't have many nobody aliases, but we haven't been able to convince a couple of customers to remove them yet. Darin. - Original Message - From: Erik [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 8:54 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2 and DELETE Fritz, We've experienced the same problem as you and for us, it was narrowed down to the catchall account in Imail. If you have a catchall account in the Imail setup, Declude will not work correctly. After many emails to Declude about this, they confirmed to me this IS a problem and one of not a high priority to fix. We've reverted back to 1.82 until it's fixed. Also, Decludes' COMFIRM.CFG does not work correctly either when there is a catchall account. The local Declude will intercept any confirmation email that going to another Imail/Declude Confirm system (thus the email never reaches it's intended source. Again, response from Declude was: it's not a high priority. Erik -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fritz Squib Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 2:42 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2 and DELETE Apparently I missing something bloody obvious, but with 2.0 running it seems like my delete action doesn't work as expected any more. Running the latest 2.x release downloaded last night. --Global Config-- WEIGHT20 weight x x 20 0 WEIGHT30 weight x x 32 0 --Default.junkmail-- WEIGHT20 HOLD WEIGHT30 DELETE In a brief conversation with Declude the response I got was: The problem is probably the change in the way the DELETE action works. In the past, it would delete the E-mail for all recipients. Now, it only deletes the E-mail for recipients that use the DELETE action. It still seems like the HOLD action is taking precedence over the DELETE action since mail with weight over my WEIGHT30 test winds up in the hold folder even though the log file says: 02/01/2005 12:25:06 Qbb6c48770128853b Msg failed WEIGHT30 (Weight of 44 reaches or exceeds the limit of 32.). Action=DELETE. I has sent Scott debug log files but I still haven't figure out what I'm missing. Yes there are a *few* per user .junkmail files, with an action of WARN, but most of the held mail is either not for them (nor are they CC'd or BCC'd as far as I can tell) and/or (may or may not be related) in the spam review application there is no To: field reported. I have also tried changing 'weight' to 'weightrange' with the appropriate scores, and still see the same results Anyone else ? Fritz Frederick P. Squib, Jr. Network Operations/Mail Administrator Citizens Telephone Company of Kecksburg http://www.wpa.net () ascii ribbon campaign - against html email /\- against microsoft attachments --- [This E-mail scanned by Citizens Internet Services with Declude Virus.] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2 and DELETE
One of the best things to try is to stop using WEIGHT and use WEIGHTRANGE. This is much more precise in action handling. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fritz Squib Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 6:23 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2 and DELETE Nope, not using that either. Fritz -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Erik Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 9:11 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2 and DELETE I should confirm my post... By the catchall account, I'm referring to the Copy All Mail enabled setting in IMAIL. Erik -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 3:04 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2 and DELETE What exactly is the problem with the catchall account, and when is a fix expected? We haven't yet upgraded to 2.0 because of the periodic mention of problems with it on this list, but would like to as soon as all known issues are resolved. We don't have many nobody aliases, but we haven't been able to convince a couple of customers to remove them yet. Darin. - Original Message - From: Erik [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 8:54 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2 and DELETE Fritz, We've experienced the same problem as you and for us, it was narrowed down to the catchall account in Imail. If you have a catchall account in the Imail setup, Declude will not work correctly. After many emails to Declude about this, they confirmed to me this IS a problem and one of not a high priority to fix. We've reverted back to 1.82 until it's fixed. Also, Decludes' COMFIRM.CFG does not work correctly either when there is a catchall account. The local Declude will intercept any confirmation email that going to another Imail/Declude Confirm system (thus the email never reaches it's intended source. Again, response from Declude was: it's not a high priority. Erik -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fritz Squib Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 2:42 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2 and DELETE Apparently I missing something bloody obvious, but with 2.0 running it seems like my delete action doesn't work as expected any more. Running the latest 2.x release downloaded last night. --Global Config-- WEIGHT20 weight x x 20 0 WEIGHT30 weight x x 32 0 --Default.junkmail-- WEIGHT20 HOLD WEIGHT30 DELETE In a brief conversation with Declude the response I got was: The problem is probably the change in the way the DELETE action works. In the past, it would delete the E-mail for all recipients. Now, it only deletes the E-mail for recipients that use the DELETE action. It still seems like the HOLD action is taking precedence over the DELETE action since mail with weight over my WEIGHT30 test winds up in the hold folder even though the log file says: 02/01/2005 12:25:06 Qbb6c48770128853b Msg failed WEIGHT30 (Weight of 44 reaches or exceeds the limit of 32.). Action=DELETE. I has sent Scott debug log files but I still haven't figure out what I'm missing. Yes there are a *few* per user .junkmail files, with an action of WARN, but most of the held mail is either not for them (nor are they CC'd or BCC'd as far as I can tell) and/or (may or may not be related) in the spam review application there is no To: field reported. I have also tried changing 'weight' to 'weightrange' with the appropriate scores, and still see the same results Anyone else ? Fritz Frederick P. Squib, Jr. Network Operations/Mail Administrator Citizens Telephone Company of Kecksburg http://www.wpa.net () ascii ribbon campaign - against html email /\- against microsoft attachments --- [This E-mail scanned by Citizens Internet Services with Declude Virus.] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2 and DELETE
John, If all I want to do is: WEIGHT10 ATTACH WEIGHT40 DELETE Are you suggesting that I change that to: WEIGHT1039 ATTACH WEIGHT40DELETE Where WEIGHT1039 is a weightrange and the rest are weights. If so why is your suggestion more precise? Goran Jovanovic The LAN Shoppe -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff (Lists) Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 9:56 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2 and DELETE One of the best things to try is to stop using WEIGHT and use WEIGHTRANGE. This is much more precise in action handling. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fritz Squib Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 6:23 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2 and DELETE Nope, not using that either. Fritz -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Erik Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 9:11 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2 and DELETE I should confirm my post... By the catchall account, I'm referring to the Copy All Mail enabled setting in IMAIL. Erik -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 3:04 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2 and DELETE What exactly is the problem with the catchall account, and when is a fix expected? We haven't yet upgraded to 2.0 because of the periodic mention of problems with it on this list, but would like to as soon as all known issues are resolved. We don't have many nobody aliases, but we haven't been able to convince a couple of customers to remove them yet. Darin. - Original Message - From: Erik [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 8:54 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2 and DELETE Fritz, We've experienced the same problem as you and for us, it was narrowed down to the catchall account in Imail. If you have a catchall account in the Imail setup, Declude will not work correctly. After many emails to Declude about this, they confirmed to me this IS a problem and one of not a high priority to fix. We've reverted back to 1.82 until it's fixed. Also, Decludes' COMFIRM.CFG does not work correctly either when there is a catchall account. The local Declude will intercept any confirmation email that going to another Imail/Declude Confirm system (thus the email never reaches it's intended source. Again, response from Declude was: it's not a high priority. Erik -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fritz Squib Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 2:42 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2 and DELETE Apparently I missing something bloody obvious, but with 2.0 running it seems like my delete action doesn't work as expected any more. Running the latest 2.x release downloaded last night. --Global Config-- WEIGHT20 weight x x 20 0 WEIGHT30 weight x x 32 0 --Default.junkmail-- WEIGHT20 HOLD WEIGHT30 DELETE In a brief conversation with Declude the response I got was: The problem is probably the change in the way the DELETE action works. In the past, it would delete the E-mail for all recipients. Now, it only deletes the E-mail for recipients that use the DELETE action. It still seems like the HOLD action is taking precedence over the DELETE action since mail with weight over my WEIGHT30 test winds up in the hold folder even though the log file says: 02/01/2005 12:25:06 Qbb6c48770128853b Msg failed WEIGHT30 (Weight of 44 reaches or exceeds the limit of 32.). Action=DELETE. I has sent Scott debug log files but I still haven't figure out what I'm missing. Yes there are a *few* per user .junkmail files, with an action of WARN, but most of the held mail is either not for them (nor are they CC'd or BCC'd as far as I can tell) and/or (may or may not be related) in the spam review application there is no To: field reported. I have also tried changing 'weight' to 'weightrange' with the appropriate scores, and still see the same results Anyone else ? Fritz Frederick P. Squib, Jr. Network Operations/Mail Administrator Citizens Telephone Company of Kecksburg http://www.wpa.net () ascii ribbon campaign - against html email /\- against microsoft attachments --- [This E-mail scanned by Citizens Internet Services with Declude
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2 and DELETE
I had a similar problem with 2.0.4, in my case I had multiple DELETE actions like the following: WEIGHT20 HOLD WEIGHT25 DELETE WEIGHT30 DELETE The solution that worked in my case was to remove (simply comment out) the extra DELETE WEIGHT20 HOLD WEIGHT25 DELETE #WEIGHT30 DELETE I don't know if this is your case and if it is true also with latest version as I didn't check further. --- Franco Celli - Original Message - From: Fritz Squib [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 2:42 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2 and DELETE Apparently I missing something bloody obvious, but with 2.0 running it seems like my delete action doesn't work as expected any more. Running the latest 2.x release downloaded last night. --Global Config-- WEIGHT20 weight x x 20 0 WEIGHT30 weight x x 32 0 --Default.junkmail-- WEIGHT20 HOLD WEIGHT30 DELETE --- [Quipo ISP - Questa E-mail e' stata controllata dal programma Declude Virus] [Quipo ISP - This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2 and DELETE
Goran, It's more precise because when you have two WEIGHTS that overlap Declude will evaluate the actions of both and pick the one with the highest programmed action. When you use the weight range option than there is no conflict of actions since your weight ranges would not conflict. Darrell Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And Imail. IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers. Goran Jovanovic writes: John, If all I want to do is: WEIGHT10 ATTACH WEIGHT40 DELETE Are you suggesting that I change that to: WEIGHT1039 ATTACH WEIGHT40DELETE Where WEIGHT1039 is a weightrange and the rest are weights. If so why is your suggestion more precise? Goran Jovanovic The LAN Shoppe -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff (Lists) Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 9:56 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2 and DELETE One of the best things to try is to stop using WEIGHT and use WEIGHTRANGE. This is much more precise in action handling. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fritz Squib Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 6:23 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2 and DELETE Nope, not using that either. Fritz -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Erik Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 9:11 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2 and DELETE I should confirm my post... By the catchall account, I'm referring to the Copy All Mail enabled setting in IMAIL. Erik -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 3:04 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2 and DELETE What exactly is the problem with the catchall account, and when is a fix expected? We haven't yet upgraded to 2.0 because of the periodic mention of problems with it on this list, but would like to as soon as all known issues are resolved. We don't have many nobody aliases, but we haven't been able to convince a couple of customers to remove them yet. Darin. - Original Message - From: Erik [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 8:54 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2 and DELETE Fritz, We've experienced the same problem as you and for us, it was narrowed down to the catchall account in Imail. If you have a catchall account in the Imail setup, Declude will not work correctly. After many emails to Declude about this, they confirmed to me this IS a problem and one of not a high priority to fix. We've reverted back to 1.82 until it's fixed. Also, Decludes' COMFIRM.CFG does not work correctly either when there is a catchall account. The local Declude will intercept any confirmation email that going to another Imail/Declude Confirm system (thus the email never reaches it's intended source. Again, response from Declude was: it's not a high priority. Erik -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fritz Squib Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 2:42 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2 and DELETE Apparently I missing something bloody obvious, but with 2.0 running it seems like my delete action doesn't work as expected any more. Running the latest 2.x release downloaded last night. --Global Config-- WEIGHT20 weight x x 20 0 WEIGHT30 weight x x 32 0 --Default.junkmail-- WEIGHT20 HOLD WEIGHT30 DELETE In a brief conversation with Declude the response I got was: The problem is probably the change in the way the DELETE action works. In the past, it would delete the E-mail for all recipients. Now, it only deletes the E-mail for recipients that use the DELETE action. It still seems like the HOLD action is taking precedence over the DELETE action since mail with weight over my WEIGHT30 test winds up in the hold folder even though the log file says: 02/01/2005 12:25:06 Qbb6c48770128853b Msg failed WEIGHT30 (Weight of 44 reaches or exceeds the limit of 32.). Action=DELETE. I has sent Scott debug log files but I still haven't figure out what I'm missing. Yes there are a *few* per user .junkmail files, with an action of WARN, but most of the held mail is either not for them (nor are they CC'd or BCC'd as far as I can tell) and/or (may or may not be related) in the spam review application there is no To: field reported. I have
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2 and DELETE
At 02:54 PM 3/1/2005 +0100, Erik wrote: After many emails to Declude about this, they confirmed to me this IS a problem and one of not a high priority to fix. We've reverted back to 1.82 until it's fixed. We have as well. I just tried 2.05 yesterday and spent 1 1/2 hours fixing stuff this morning. Clearly the upgrade is still not working very well. [This E-mail scanned for viruses by F-Prot using Declude Anti-virus ] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2 and DELETE
I put in the 2.0.5 upgrade on the weekend and so far have no seen any problems. I did the manual install and copied the declude.exe over, did the -diags and then started the SMTP service. I have looked in the logs but see nothing unusual. What type of problems did you spend time fixing? With everyone saying there are problems I am starting to get paranoid as I am not seeing any problems. Now of course that I have written this I am sure something is going to break really soon :( Goran Jovanovic The LAN Shoppe -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ncl Admin Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 11:07 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2 and DELETE At 02:54 PM 3/1/2005 +0100, Erik wrote: After many emails to Declude about this, they confirmed to me this IS a problem and one of not a high priority to fix. We've reverted back to 1.82 until it's fixed. We have as well. I just tried 2.05 yesterday and spent 1 1/2 hours fixing stuff this morning. Clearly the upgrade is still not working very well. [This E-mail scanned for viruses by F-Prot using Declude Anti-virus ] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2 and DELETE
The latest version of Declude is indeed working very well. As in anything else in life, there is no such thing as perfect. This bug is apparently as the result of customer requests, in that Declude customers were requesting multiple actions and different actions for different users. Remember people, declude.exe started off being a simple yet powerful tool in the war on spam. I highly doubt Scott could have fore sought all of the added functions and features that are now present or are planned. As such, the code could not have been written with planning for all of those features and functions. Come on now, how many of us and had to go back and redo/undo work that we did one/two/three years ago because what we have to do now is changed and to make it work we have to make changes to work we did in the past. Remember, the Subject line bug did not come to light until Earthlink and Gmail started using a new software that started putting in lines in the header that no one had seen before. As for the question of using WEIGHTRANGE over WEIGHT, any time you can take steps to be more precise in defining what it is you intend to do will help to reduce possible problems down the line. Using WEIGHTRANGE will help you to clearly understand and change your intention into actual commands as it leaves less room for mistakes and overlaps. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ncl Admin Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 8:07 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2 and DELETE At 02:54 PM 3/1/2005 +0100, Erik wrote: After many emails to Declude about this, they confirmed to me this IS a problem and one of not a high priority to fix. We've reverted back to 1.82 until it's fixed. We have as well. I just tried 2.05 yesterday and spent 1 1/2 hours fixing stuff this morning. Clearly the upgrade is still not working very well. [This E-mail scanned for viruses by F-Prot using Declude Anti-virus ] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2 and DELETE
We have deployed 2.0.5 as well using the manual. We have had it running for well over a week now and have not seen any issues at all. Darrell Goran Jovanovic writes: I put in the 2.0.5 upgrade on the weekend and so far have no seen any problems. I did the manual install and copied the declude.exe over, did the -diags and then started the SMTP service. I have looked in the logs but see nothing unusual. What type of problems did you spend time fixing? With everyone saying there are problems I am starting to get paranoid as I am not seeing any problems. Now of course that I have written this I am sure something is going to break really soon :( Goran Jovanovic The LAN Shoppe -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ncl Admin Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 11:07 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2 and DELETE At 02:54 PM 3/1/2005 +0100, Erik wrote: After many emails to Declude about this, they confirmed to me this IS a problem and one of not a high priority to fix. We've reverted back to 1.82 until it's fixed. We have as well. I just tried 2.05 yesterday and spent 1 1/2 hours fixing stuff this morning. Clearly the upgrade is still not working very well. [This E-mail scanned for viruses by F-Prot using Declude Anti-virus ] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And Imail. IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2 and DELETE
How have your logs been Darrell? When I was running it (I've since gone back to 1.82) I noticed lots more log corruption - Original Message - From: Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 10:30 AM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2 and DELETE We have deployed 2.0.5 as well using the manual. We have had it running for well over a week now and have not seen any issues at all. Darrell Goran Jovanovic writes: I put in the 2.0.5 upgrade on the weekend and so far have no seen any problems. I did the manual install and copied the declude.exe over, did the -diags and then started the SMTP service. I have looked in the logs but see nothing unusual. What type of problems did you spend time fixing? With everyone saying there are problems I am starting to get paranoid as I am not seeing any problems. Now of course that I have written this I am sure something is going to break really soon :( Goran Jovanovic The LAN Shoppe -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ncl Admin Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 11:07 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2 and DELETE At 02:54 PM 3/1/2005 +0100, Erik wrote: After many emails to Declude about this, they confirmed to me this IS a problem and one of not a high priority to fix. We've reverted back to 1.82 until it's fixed. We have as well. I just tried 2.05 yesterday and spent 1 1/2 hours fixing stuff this morning. Clearly the upgrade is still not working very well. [This E-mail scanned for viruses by F-Prot using Declude Anti-virus ] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And Imail. IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2 and DELETE
This is how you would setup a weight range with the last one being a weight to place an action on all emails with a weight over that weight. SPAM-LOWweightrange x x 8 13 SPAM-MEDweightrange x x 14 24 SPAM-HIGH weight x x 25 0 Kevin Bilbee -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 7:12 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2 and DELETE John, If all I want to do is: WEIGHT10 ATTACH WEIGHT40 DELETE Are you suggesting that I change that to: WEIGHT1039 ATTACH WEIGHT40DELETE Where WEIGHT1039 is a weightrange and the rest are weights. If so why is your suggestion more precise? Goran Jovanovic The LAN Shoppe -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff (Lists) Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 9:56 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2 and DELETE One of the best things to try is to stop using WEIGHT and use WEIGHTRANGE. This is much more precise in action handling. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fritz Squib Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 6:23 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2 and DELETE Nope, not using that either. Fritz -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Erik Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 9:11 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2 and DELETE I should confirm my post... By the catchall account, I'm referring to the Copy All Mail enabled setting in IMAIL. Erik -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 3:04 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2 and DELETE What exactly is the problem with the catchall account, and when is a fix expected? We haven't yet upgraded to 2.0 because of the periodic mention of problems with it on this list, but would like to as soon as all known issues are resolved. We don't have many nobody aliases, but we haven't been able to convince a couple of customers to remove them yet. Darin. - Original Message - From: Erik [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 8:54 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2 and DELETE Fritz, We've experienced the same problem as you and for us, it was narrowed down to the catchall account in Imail. If you have a catchall account in the Imail setup, Declude will not work correctly. After many emails to Declude about this, they confirmed to me this IS a problem and one of not a high priority to fix. We've reverted back to 1.82 until it's fixed. Also, Decludes' COMFIRM.CFG does not work correctly either when there is a catchall account. The local Declude will intercept any confirmation email that going to another Imail/Declude Confirm system (thus the email never reaches it's intended source. Again, response from Declude was: it's not a high priority. Erik -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fritz Squib Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 2:42 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2 and DELETE Apparently I missing something bloody obvious, but with 2.0 running it seems like my delete action doesn't work as expected any more. Running the latest 2.x release downloaded last night. --Global Config-- WEIGHT20 weight x x 20 0 WEIGHT30 weight x x 32 0 --Default.junkmail-- WEIGHT20 HOLD WEIGHT30 DELETE In a brief conversation with Declude the response I got was: The problem is probably the change in the way the DELETE action works. In the past, it would delete the E-mail for all recipients. Now, it only deletes the E-mail for recipients that use the DELETE action. It still seems like the HOLD action is taking precedence over the DELETE action since mail with weight over my WEIGHT30 test winds up in the hold folder even though the log file says: 02/01/2005 12:25:06 Qbb6c48770128853b Msg failed WEIGHT30 (Weight of 44 reaches or exceeds the limit of 32.). Action=DELETE. I has sent Scott debug log files but I still haven't
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2 and DELETE
At 11:20 AM 3/1/2005 -0500, Goran Jovanovic wrote: I put in the 2.0.5 upgrade on the weekend and so far have no seen any problems. I did the manual install and copied the declude.exe over, did the -diags and then started the SMTP service. I have looked in the logs but see nothing unusual. What type of problems did you spend time fixing? Instead of deleting bad messages which exceed my weight it captured them. Then I have to hand process all of them. It also got a zillion of them going to my catchall account which are normally not there so it was double the trouble so to speak. I have to hand process everything between my weight range of hold and delete to make sure that false positives are not just deleted. I also then block spam ip's while I do it which really cuts down on the next batch. I did send a low priority ticket to declude, as far as I am concerned I did the auto install and if it needed to fix things from weight to weightrange it should have done it. I haven't really currently got the time to re-do my settings. But might take a look at it in the near future but I am moving from Imail to Smartermail so not sure I should allocate the time. Jay [This E-mail scanned for viruses by F-Prot] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2 and DELETE
Scott, I have not seen too much log corruption yet. In fact watching the logs scroll by it seems to be better than what we seen under earlier versions. Specially since the logs are not interleaved (I like that). We are running logs in excess of 600MB. I will have a better answer once I kick off all the monthly processing of logs. Darrell Scott Fisher writes: How have your logs been Darrell? When I was running it (I've since gone back to 1.82) I noticed lots more log corruption - Original Message - From: Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 10:30 AM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2 and DELETE We have deployed 2.0.5 as well using the manual. We have had it running for well over a week now and have not seen any issues at all. Darrell Goran Jovanovic writes: I put in the 2.0.5 upgrade on the weekend and so far have no seen any problems. I did the manual install and copied the declude.exe over, did the -diags and then started the SMTP service. I have looked in the logs but see nothing unusual. What type of problems did you spend time fixing? With everyone saying there are problems I am starting to get paranoid as I am not seeing any problems. Now of course that I have written this I am sure something is going to break really soon :( Goran Jovanovic The LAN Shoppe -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ncl Admin Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 11:07 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2 and DELETE At 02:54 PM 3/1/2005 +0100, Erik wrote: After many emails to Declude about this, they confirmed to me this IS a problem and one of not a high priority to fix. We've reverted back to 1.82 until it's fixed. We have as well. I just tried 2.05 yesterday and spent 1 1/2 hours fixing stuff this morning. Clearly the upgrade is still not working very well. [This E-mail scanned for viruses by F-Prot using Declude Anti-virus ] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And Imail. IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And Imail. IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2 and DELETE
Hi, Oh, so it's NOT just me. Yes, there we virtually no corruptions before my upgrade from 1.82 to 2.04 - now they are plentiful. Best Regards Andy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Fisher Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 11:37 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2 and DELETE How have your logs been Darrell? When I was running it (I've since gone back to 1.82) I noticed lots more log corruption - Original Message - From: Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 10:30 AM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2 and DELETE We have deployed 2.0.5 as well using the manual. We have had it running for well over a week now and have not seen any issues at all. Darrell Goran Jovanovic writes: I put in the 2.0.5 upgrade on the weekend and so far have no seen any problems. I did the manual install and copied the declude.exe over, did the -diags and then started the SMTP service. I have looked in the logs but see nothing unusual. What type of problems did you spend time fixing? With everyone saying there are problems I am starting to get paranoid as I am not seeing any problems. Now of course that I have written this I am sure something is going to break really soon :( Goran Jovanovic The LAN Shoppe -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ncl Admin Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 11:07 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2 and DELETE At 02:54 PM 3/1/2005 +0100, Erik wrote: After many emails to Declude about this, they confirmed to me this IS a problem and one of not a high priority to fix. We've reverted back to 1.82 until it's fixed. We have as well. I just tried 2.05 yesterday and spent 1 1/2 hours fixing stuff this morning. Clearly the upgrade is still not working very well. [This E-mail scanned for viruses by F-Prot using Declude Anti-virus ] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. -- -- Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And Imail. IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2 and DELETE
Andy/Scott, We are running 2.0.5 and I am not sure if that has anything to do with it. I have always had corruption with the previous versions when the server got to busy. I just have not seen that with 2.0.5 yet. Darrell Andy Schmidt writes: Hi, Oh, so it's NOT just me. Yes, there we virtually no corruptions before my upgrade from 1.82 to 2.04 - now they are plentiful. Best Regards Andy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Fisher Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 11:37 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2 and DELETE How have your logs been Darrell? When I was running it (I've since gone back to 1.82) I noticed lots more log corruption - Original Message - From: Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 10:30 AM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2 and DELETE We have deployed 2.0.5 as well using the manual. We have had it running for well over a week now and have not seen any issues at all. Darrell Goran Jovanovic writes: I put in the 2.0.5 upgrade on the weekend and so far have no seen any problems. I did the manual install and copied the declude.exe over, did the -diags and then started the SMTP service. I have looked in the logs but see nothing unusual. What type of problems did you spend time fixing? With everyone saying there are problems I am starting to get paranoid as I am not seeing any problems. Now of course that I have written this I am sure something is going to break really soon :( Goran Jovanovic The LAN Shoppe -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ncl Admin Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 11:07 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2 and DELETE At 02:54 PM 3/1/2005 +0100, Erik wrote: After many emails to Declude about this, they confirmed to me this IS a problem and one of not a high priority to fix. We've reverted back to 1.82 until it's fixed. We have as well. I just tried 2.05 yesterday and spent 1 1/2 hours fixing stuff this morning. Clearly the upgrade is still not working very well. [This E-mail scanned for viruses by F-Prot using Declude Anti-virus ] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. -- -- Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And Imail. IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And Imail. IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2 and DELETE
Uh, so the WEIGHT text is the problem? I have noticed from day one, that suddenly really obvious Spam that had failed countless tests and should have been deleted (with REALLY high weights) was actually being delivered. I had mentioned it on the list twice right after I was finally able to upgrade to 2.04 (after the crashes were fixed). I thought I was dreaming and have not yet found the time to debug it. Thanks for the pointer. If letting through high-weight Spam is low priority on the to be fixed list, then I guess I just have different priorities G? Best Regards Andy Schmidt HM Systems Software, Inc. 600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203 Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846 Phone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business) Fax:+1 201 934-9206 http://www.HM-Software.com/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fritz Squib Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 08:42 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2 and DELETE Apparently I missing something bloody obvious, but with 2.0 running it seems like my delete action doesn't work as expected any more. Running the latest 2.x release downloaded last night. --Global Config-- WEIGHT20weight x x 20 0 WEIGHT30weight x x 32 0 --Default.junkmail-- WEIGHT20HOLD WEIGHT30DELETE In a brief conversation with Declude the response I got was: The problem is probably the change in the way the DELETE action works. In the past, it would delete the E-mail for all recipients. Now, it only deletes the E-mail for recipients that use the DELETE action. It still seems like the HOLD action is taking precedence over the DELETE action since mail with weight over my WEIGHT30 test winds up in the hold folder even though the log file says: 02/01/2005 12:25:06 Qbb6c48770128853b Msg failed WEIGHT30 (Weight of 44 reaches or exceeds the limit of 32.). Action=DELETE. I has sent Scott debug log files but I still haven't figure out what I'm missing. Yes there are a *few* per user .junkmail files, with an action of WARN, but most of the held mail is either not for them (nor are they CC'd or BCC'd as far as I can tell) and/or (may or may not be related) in the spam review application there is no To: field reported. I have also tried changing 'weight' to 'weightrange' with the appropriate scores, and still see the same results Anyone else ? Fritz --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2 and DELETE
If you are moving form IMail to smartermail your declude files will transfer over with out and issue, you may need to change path settings in your config files. I have dont this on one live domain that I am testing declude and smartermail with. Only problem at this point is the declude registration which is not affecting spam processing. As for the auto install it will not update or modify any of your config files and that is as it should be. It would be scarry if it tried to especially with the flexibility of declude. Kevin Bilbee -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ncl Admin Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 8:47 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2 and DELETE At 11:20 AM 3/1/2005 -0500, Goran Jovanovic wrote: I put in the 2.0.5 upgrade on the weekend and so far have no seen any problems. I did the manual install and copied the declude.exe over, did the -diags and then started the SMTP service. I have looked in the logs but see nothing unusual. What type of problems did you spend time fixing? Instead of deleting bad messages which exceed my weight it captured them. Then I have to hand process all of them. It also got a zillion of them going to my catchall account which are normally not there so it was double the trouble so to speak. I have to hand process everything between my weight range of hold and delete to make sure that false positives are not just deleted. I also then block spam ip's while I do it which really cuts down on the next batch. I did send a low priority ticket to declude, as far as I am concerned I did the auto install and if it needed to fix things from weight to weightrange it should have done it. I haven't really currently got the time to re-do my settings. But might take a look at it in the near future but I am moving from Imail to Smartermail so not sure I should allocate the time. Jay [This E-mail scanned for viruses by F-Prot] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
