Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Changes @ Declude

2006-02-10 Thread Matt

Barry,

I didn't get the E-mail that you mentioned.

I'm also wondering about what the terms are in 4.0 for new agreements.  
The terminology changes from Service Agreements to Subscription.  
Those things can have different meanings in this industry.  A 
Subscription suggests expiration of the product, at least to me.  If 
that is not the case, you might want to clarify that on your site.


Thanks,

Matt



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In the last 10 days we have received a number of inquiries to the email
sent to every customer explaining the changes that are happening here at
Declude. To summarize the answers to those questions:

* No existing customer is required to move to the new annual pricing.
* Our current customers can continue to pay the annual Service Agreements.
* No customer is required to move to 4.0

Over and above that we are continuing to enhance and support both 3.0 and
4.0 and we have provided great deals for customers wishing to move to the
4.0 version and also committed to keeping them on Service Agreements.

I have responded to each and every customer who has contacted me since the
email was sent out and if any one has any further questions they can contact
me either by email or telephone (978) 499-2933.

Barry

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Changes @ Declude

2006-02-10 Thread John Carter
Sorry, Barry, not doubting you sent it, but didn't get the message here.

John C  

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Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Changes @ Declude

 In the last 10 days we have received a number of inquiries to the email
sent to every customer explaining the changes that are happening here at
Declude. To summarize the answers to those questions:

* No existing customer is required to move to the new annual pricing.
* Our current customers can continue to pay the annual Service Agreements.
* No customer is required to move to 4.0

Over and above that we are continuing to enhance and support both 3.0 and
4.0 and we have provided great deals for customers wishing to move to the
4.0 version and also committed to keeping them on Service Agreements.

I have responded to each and every customer who has contacted me since the
email was sent out and if any one has any further questions they can contact
me either by email or telephone (978) 499-2933.

Barry

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Changes @ Declude

2006-02-10 Thread Dave Doherty

Same here...



- Original Message - 
From: John Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 2:17 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Changes @ Declude



Sorry, Barry, not doubting you sent it, but didn't get the message here.

John C

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 12:47 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Changes @ Declude

In the last 10 days we have received a number of inquiries to the email
sent to every customer explaining the changes that are happening here at
Declude. To summarize the answers to those questions:

* No existing customer is required to move to the new annual pricing.
* Our current customers can continue to pay the annual Service Agreements.
* No customer is required to move to 4.0

Over and above that we are continuing to enhance and support both 3.0 and
4.0 and we have provided great deals for customers wishing to move to the
4.0 version and also committed to keeping them on Service Agreements.

I have responded to each and every customer who has contacted me since the
email was sent out and if any one has any further questions they can 
contact

me either by email or telephone (978) 499-2933.

Barry

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Changes @ Declude

2006-02-10 Thread mail-lists
Got it on Tuesday...

Cavell McDermott
Network Administrator
Cottonwood Financial
972.753.0822 Office
214.403.4918 Cell
http://www.thecashstore.com


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Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 1:27 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Changes @ Declude


Same here...



- Original Message - 
From: John Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 2:17 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Changes @ Declude


 Sorry, Barry, not doubting you sent it, but didn't get the message here.

 John C

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 12:47 PM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Changes @ Declude

 In the last 10 days we have received a number of inquiries to the email
 sent to every customer explaining the changes that are happening here at
 Declude. To summarize the answers to those questions:

 * No existing customer is required to move to the new annual pricing.
 * Our current customers can continue to pay the annual Service Agreements.
 * No customer is required to move to 4.0

 Over and above that we are continuing to enhance and support both 3.0 and
 4.0 and we have provided great deals for customers wishing to move to the
 4.0 version and also committed to keeping them on Service Agreements.

 I have responded to each and every customer who has contacted me since the
 email was sent out and if any one has any further questions they can 
 contact
 me either by email or telephone (978) 499-2933.

 Barry

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Changes @ Declude

2006-02-10 Thread System Administrator
on 2/10/06 2:36 PM, mail-lists wrote:

 Got it on Tuesday...

Same here.

Greg

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Changes @ Declude

2006-02-10 Thread george kulman
Same here too.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Doherty
 Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 2:27 PM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Changes @ Declude
 
 Same here...
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: John Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 2:17 PM
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Changes @ Declude
 
 
  Sorry, Barry, not doubting you sent it, but didn't get the message here.
 
  John C
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 12:47 PM
  To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
  Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Changes @ Declude
 
  In the last 10 days we have received a number of inquiries to the email
  sent to every customer explaining the changes that are happening here at
  Declude. To summarize the answers to those questions:
 
  * No existing customer is required to move to the new annual pricing.
  * Our current customers can continue to pay the annual Service
 Agreements.
  * No customer is required to move to 4.0
 
  Over and above that we are continuing to enhance and support both 3.0
 and
  4.0 and we have provided great deals for customers wishing to move to
 the
  4.0 version and also committed to keeping them on Service Agreements.
 
  I have responded to each and every customer who has contacted me since
 the
  email was sent out and if any one has any further questions they can
  contact
  me either by email or telephone (978) 499-2933.
 
  Barry
 
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Changes @ Declude

2006-02-10 Thread Bill Landry

Didn't get any notification here either.

Bill
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From: Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 11:03 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Changes @ Declude



Barry,

I didn't get the E-mail that you mentioned.

I'm also wondering about what the terms are in 4.0 for new agreements. 
The terminology changes from Service Agreements to Subscription. 
Those things can have different meanings in this industry.  A 
Subscription suggests expiration of the product, at least to me.  If 
that is not the case, you might want to clarify that on your site.


Thanks,

Matt



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In the last 10 days we have received a number of inquiries to the email
sent to every customer explaining the changes that are happening here at
Declude. To summarize the answers to those questions:

* No existing customer is required to move to the new annual pricing.
* Our current customers can continue to pay the annual Service Agreements.
* No customer is required to move to 4.0

Over and above that we are continuing to enhance and support both 3.0 and
4.0 and we have provided great deals for customers wishing to move to the
4.0 version and also committed to keeping them on Service Agreements.

I have responded to each and every customer who has contacted me since the
email was sent out and if any one has any further questions they can 
contact

me either by email or telephone (978) 499-2933.

Barry

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Changes @ Declude

2006-02-10 Thread Andy Schmidt



Hi Kevin,

I understand what you're saying- you believe Declude 
4.0 is really just a"Declude 3.x Suite" vs. the Declude 3.x "legacy 
products".New customers can only purchase the Suite, while old customers 
will continue to upgrade their individual products. The code base is the 
same. 

In that case, the confusion stems from using a "version 
numbering" scheme, instead of using a proper "packaging" 
scheme.

This would be comparable to what IpSwitch did eventually. 
New customers have to buy the bloated Imail suite, while existing customers can 
continue buy service agreements for the Imail mail server 
product.

Let's see if Declude can confirm your 
understanding.

Then we'll just have to find out what the "subscription" 
is. Is it a "service agreement subscription" (where you can continue to use the 
existing product version, even if the subscription is not renewed), or if it is 
a "license subscription" (whereyour license terminates if you fail to 
renew at some point).
Best 
RegardsAndy SchmidtPhone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 
(Business)Fax: +1 201 934-9206 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin 
BilbeeSent: Friday, February 10, 2006 04:20 PMTo: 
Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Changes @ 
Declude

Declude 4.x is all the products in one with a common license key and are 
not seperatable.

On the 
buying issue what do you get, the two products will be kept in parity feature 
wise.


Kevin 
Bilbee

  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On 
  Behalf Of Andy SchmidtSent: Friday, February 10, 2006 11:02 
  AMTo: Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: RE: 
  [Declude.Virus] Changes @ DecludeImportance: 
  High
  Has anyone figured out yet WHAT exactly Declude 4.0 
  IS?
  
  I'm looking around on the web site (figured, it's been 
  days since I receive the notice that it's available), but I still haven't seen 
  anything on the web site that tells me what my extra money would be buying - 
  or, what it is I'd be missing out on if I don't buy?
  Best 
  RegardsAndy SchmidtPhone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 
  (Business)Fax: +1 201 934-9206 
  
  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 01:47 
  PMTo: Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: [Declude.Virus] 
  Changes @ Declude
  
  
  In the 
  last 10 days we have received a number of inquiries to the email sent to every 
  customer explaining the changes that are happening here at Declude. To 
  summarize the answers to those questions:
  
  * No existing 
  customer is required to move to the new annual pricing.
  * Our current 
  customers can continue to pay the annual Service Agreements.
  * No customer 
  is required to move to 4.0
  
  Over and above 
  that we are continuing to enhance and support both 3.0 and 4.0 and we have 
  provided great deals for customers wishing to move to the 4.0 version and also 
  committed to keeping them on Service Agreements.
  
  I have 
  responded to each and every customer who has contacted me since the email was 
  sent out and if any one has any further questions they can contact me either 
  by email or telephone (978) 499-2933.
  
  Barry


RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Changes @ Declude

2006-02-10 Thread Kevin Bilbee



I am 
just regurgitatingwhat Barry told me over the phone.


Kevin 
Bilbee

  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Andy 
  SchmidtSent: Friday, February 10, 2006 2:19 PMTo: 
  Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Changes @ 
  Declude
  Hi Kevin,
  
  I understand what you're saying- you believe 
  Declude 4.0 is really just a"Declude 3.x Suite" vs. the Declude 3.x 
  "legacy products".New customers can only purchase the Suite, while old 
  customers will continue to upgrade their individual products. The code base is 
  the same. 
  
  In that case, the confusion stems from using a "version 
  numbering" scheme, instead of using a proper "packaging" 
  scheme.
  
  This would be comparable to what IpSwitch did eventually. 
  New customers have to buy the bloated Imail suite, while existing customers 
  can continue buy service agreements for the Imail mail server 
  product.
  
  Let's see if Declude can confirm your 
  understanding.
  
  Then we'll just have to find out what the "subscription" 
  is. Is it a "service agreement subscription" (where you can continue to use 
  the existing product version, even if the subscription is not renewed), or if 
  it is a "license subscription" (whereyour license terminates if you fail 
  to renew at some point).
  Best 
  RegardsAndy SchmidtPhone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 
  (Business)Fax: +1 201 934-9206 
  
  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin 
  BilbeeSent: Friday, February 10, 2006 04:20 PMTo: 
  Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Changes @ 
  Declude
  
  Declude 4.x is all the products in one with a common license key and 
  are not seperatable.
  
  On 
  the buying issue what do you get, the two products will be kept in parity 
  feature wise.
  
  
  Kevin Bilbee
  
-Original Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Andy 
SchmidtSent: Friday, February 10, 2006 11:02 AMTo: 
Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Changes @ 
DecludeImportance: High
Has anyone figured out yet WHAT exactly Declude 4.0 
IS?

I'm looking around on the web site (figured, it's been 
days since I receive the notice that it's available), but I still haven't 
seen anything on the web site that tells me what my extra money would be 
buying - or, what it is I'd be missing out on if I don't 
buy?
Best 
RegardsAndy SchmidtPhone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 
(Business)Fax: +1 201 934-9206 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 01:47 
PMTo: Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: 
[Declude.Virus] Changes @ Declude


In the 
last 10 days we have received a number of inquiries to the email sent to 
every customer explaining the changes that are happening here at Declude. To 
summarize the answers to those questions:

* No 
existing customer is required to move to the new annual pricing.
* Our 
current customers can continue to pay the annual Service 
Agreements.
* No 
customer is required to move to 4.0

Over and 
above that we are continuing to enhance and support both 3.0 and 4.0 and we 
have provided great deals for customers wishing to move to the 4.0 version 
and also committed to keeping them on Service Agreements.

I have 
responded to each and every customer who has contacted me since the email 
was sent out and if any one has any further questions they can contact me 
either by email or telephone (978) 499-2933.

Barry


RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Changes @ Declude

2006-02-10 Thread george kulman
Hi Andy,

Like you, I didn't get the e-mail from Barry.  I did do as Kevin suggested
in an earlier e-mail in this thread and called Barry.  We had a very
pleasant conversation during which he explained everything to me and
answered all of my questions to my satisfaction.

It's too bad that so many of us (and seemingly the vocal ones) didn't
receive the original explanatory email.  This thread would never have gotten
to this point.

George

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Schmidt
 Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 5:19 PM
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Changes @ Declude
 
 Hi Kevin,
 
 I understand what you're saying - you believe Declude 4.0 is really just a
 Declude 3.x Suite vs. the Declude 3.x legacy products. New customers
 can only purchase the Suite, while old customers will continue to upgrade
 their individual products. The code base is the same.
 
 In that case, the confusion stems from using a version numbering scheme,
 instead of using a proper packaging scheme.
 
 This would be comparable to what IpSwitch did eventually. New customers
 have to buy the bloated Imail suite, while existing customers can continue
 buy service agreements for the Imail mail server product.
 
 Let's see if Declude can confirm your understanding.
 
 Then we'll just have to find out what the subscription is. Is it a
 service agreement subscription (where you can continue to use the
 existing product version, even if the subscription is not renewed), or if
 it is a license subscription (where your license terminates if you fail
 to renew at some point).
 
 
 Best Regards
 Andy Schmidt
 
 Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
 Fax:+1 201 934-9206
 
 
 
 
 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee
 Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 04:20 PM
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Changes @ Declude
 
 
 Declude 4.x is all the products in one with a common license key and are
 not seperatable.
 
 On the buying issue what do you get, the two products will be kept in
 parity feature wise.
 
 
 Kevin Bilbee
 
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andy Schmidt
   Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 11:02 AM
   To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
   Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Changes @ Declude
   Importance: High
 
 
   Has anyone figured out yet WHAT exactly Declude 4.0 IS?
 
   I'm looking around on the web site (figured, it's been days since I
 receive the notice that it's available), but I still haven't seen anything
 on the web site that tells me what my extra money would be buying - or,
 what it is I'd be missing out on if I don't buy?
 
 
   Best Regards
   Andy Schmidt
 
   Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
   Fax:+1 201 934-9206
 
 
 
 
 
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 01:47 PM
   To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
   Subject: [Declude.Virus] Changes @ Declude
 
 
 
   In the last 10 days we have received a number of inquiries to the
 email sent to every customer explaining the changes that are happening
 here at Declude. To summarize the answers to those questions:
 
 
 
   * No existing customer is required to move to the new annual
 pricing.
 
   * Our current customers can continue to pay the annual Service
 Agreements.
 
   * No customer is required to move to 4.0
 
 
 
   Over and above that we are continuing to enhance and support both
 3.0 and 4.0 and we have provided great deals for customers wishing to move
 to the 4.0 version and also committed to keeping them on Service
 Agreements.
 
 
 
   I have responded to each and every customer who has contacted me
 since the email was sent out and if any one has any further questions they
 can contact me either by email or telephone (978) 499-2933.
 
 
 
   Barry


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