Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Verizon Faced With Lawsuits Over Blocking eMail From Foreign IP Addresses

2005-05-19 Thread Don Brown
One of the expenses of living in a democracy is that the courts are open to everyone; even to the spammers and the other parasites of society. It's not cause for alarm when it's recognized that there will always be those who take unfair advantage and abuse privilege. That reality is a good reason

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Verizon Faced With Lawsuits Over Blocking eMail From Foreign IP Addresses

2005-05-18 Thread Matt
FYI, with all of the offshoring that is going on, don't be surprised to see E-mail from otherwise American companies coming from servers (connecting to your server) from places like China and India.  For instance, mssupport.microsoft.com has come to my server from 210.22.110.0/24, and even lack

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Verizon Faced With Lawsuits Over Blocking eMail From Foreign IP Addresses

2005-05-18 Thread Don Brown
I think you're reading more into it than is there. Verizon didn't deliver what it promised or, to say it differently, Verizon didn't deliver what their customers had a reasonable expectation of receiving. That's the issue. The allegation, and I think it is probably true, is that Verizon indiscrim

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Verizon Faced With Lawsuits Over Blocking eMail From Foreign IP Addresses

2005-05-18 Thread Matt
I think this is good. Just think about the issues that you would have if Verizon indiscriminately blocked you. We have heard a bunch of stories about AOL and their spam reporting mechanism blacklisting servers that are just merely forwarding to them. If these companies blacklist providers li

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Verizon Faced With Lawsuits Over Blocking eMail From Foreign IP Addresses

2005-05-18 Thread Darrell \([EMAIL PROTECTED])
This kinda scares me. Could this potentially set a precedence that companies can be sued for blocking mail? i.e. You get sued for blocking mail. We all block some legitimate mail at some point.. Thats the nature of the game. Darrell -- invURIBL - Int

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Verizon Faced With Lawsuits Over Blocking eMail From Foreign IP Addresses

2005-05-18 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
> Lets sign him up for a lot of spam from Korea, Japan, etc and see how he > feels about blocking foreign IPs then... > > Sorry to go off on a rant here The point is a company such as Verizon providing service to a wide and far reaching ranged of customers can not arbitrarily make such a deci

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Verizon Faced With Lawsuits Over Blocking eMail From Foreign IP Addresses

2005-05-18 Thread Marc Catuogno
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kohnswift.com/bio_boni.htm Lets sign him up for a lot of spam from Korea, Japan, etc and see how he feels about blocking foreign IPs then... Sorry to go off on a rant here -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Verizon Faced With Lawsuits Over Blocking eMail From Foreign IP Addresses

2005-05-18 Thread Marc Catuogno
That is f-ed up right there... The damned lawyers are gonna get rich and every VZ customer will get a coupon for a free day of service. Marc -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 2:02

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Verizon Faced With Lawsuits Over Blocking eMail From Foreign IP Addresses

2005-05-18 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Well, this snippet clearly shows that Verizon is on top of this spam problem. "Carmel said Verizon told him to e-mail the company to get his name put on a whitelist, which frustrated him even further since the company is blocking all of his e-mails." Andrew 8) -Original Message- From: [