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HI all,
At 18:33 on 30/07/2008 Todd wrote
Well I would say a Software Architect must be an order of magnitude higher
than a Software Engineer, given the lowly status of engineering in NZ.
Having worked in an office of Professional Engineers Architects, they would
both relunctantly
Gary == Gary T Benner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Gary Like funeral directors, who need no formal qualifications,
Gary anyone can buy a copy of Delphi, VS, or whatever, and call
Gary themselves a software developer, software engineer, or
Gary software architect ( if they add a
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HI Berend,
At 07:43 on 31/07/2008 you wrote
To : delphi@delphi.org.nz
I agree to the point regarding the example of the Medical profession, where it
is totally dominated by the Pharmaceutical industry as well - but at least
someone calling themselves an MD for the most is found to
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Do people on this list put in the effort to write proper object oriented
code, or write mostly RAD style code, using datasets
Most of our code is RAD based (on top of the BDE), but I'm starting to
refactor small pieces of it into testable objects, there is probably
100k lines of legacy code that I'm maintaining and I'm finding it too
significant to manage in any reliable way. I've been studying up a bit
and that's
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HI Alister,
Horses for courses.
Many programmers on this List work on just one or two large projects, in which
case it is a no-brainer to use OO.
On the other hand, many others are involved with many smaller projects, in
which case the RAD approach wins out.
Somewhere along the way
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Just an interesting observation - why do people think that RAD programming
excludes OOP programming?
RAD is a methodology, OOP is a programming style.
Steve
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Just an interesting observation - why do people think that RAD
RAD is a methodology, OOP is a programming style.
Thanks Steve, I was wondering too. I think the OP has something specific
in mind.
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From my POV, RAD is generally taken to mean what the acronym stands
for,Rapid Application Development; i.e. drop some components on to a form,
wire up a few event handlers, voila.
RAD does not lend itself to larger apps which are intended to be easily
maintainable and intended to be
My approach depends on the project.
For quick, cheap and cheerful projects, or utility style applications I
use RAD. For mid size projects I always use an OO approach. I've had good
luck with InstantObjects.
Also, ModelMaker is an invaluable tool to help visualise OO code and how
the various
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Hi all
At 09:24 on 30/07/2008 David wrote
Also, ModelMaker is an invaluable tool to help visualise OO code and how
the various parts fit together.
I, like, the Russians in the early days of the space race, still use a pencil!
g
cheers
gary
Ref#: 41006
and intended to be worked on by a team of developers.
Cheers,
C.
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Just an interesting observation - why do people think
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programming excludes OOP programming
Well I would say a Software Architect must be an order of magnitude
higher than a Software Engineer, given the lowly status of engineering
in NZ.
Todd.
Steve
As my father was fond of saying (When we agreed ) Great minds think
alike followed by Fools seldom differ
Thanks for clarifying
Yes, there a heaps of cool Ted talks, I've watched quite a few now.
Alister Christie
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Neven MacEwan wrote:
Do people on this list put in the effort to write proper object oriented
code, or write mostly RAD style code, using datasets with data-aware
controls and stuff - operating on a customer dataset, rather than the
somewhat more abstract instances of TCustomer for example? (does this
question
Good, well thought out OOP code in meaningful objects - at least *I* think
they are good and well though out :o)
Steve
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Well I have heard comments from 2 commercial sites recently from those
maintaining the code that the object structure used was over-engineered for
what the application needed.
John
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I've written an object-relational (or persistence) framework for PHP,
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Well I have heard comments from 2 commercial sites recently from those
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