Re: [DUG] Upgrade considerations

2009-09-24 Thread Eric A
:14:01 +1200 Subject: Re: [DUG] Upgrade considerations I've just started using VisualBox myself. I have previously used both VirtualPC and VMWare. VPC was quick and easy to get up and running but I found it frustratingly basic in terms of its management interface and soon found myself

Re: [DUG] Upgrade considerations

2009-09-24 Thread Robert martin
ed, 23 Sep 2009 23:14:01 +1200 Subject: Re: [DUG] Upgrade considerations I've just started using VisualBox myself. I have previously used both VirtualPC and VMWare. VPC was quick and easy to get up and running but I found it frustratingly basic in terms of its management interface and

Re: [DUG] Upgrade considerations

2009-09-24 Thread Paul A Norman
: [DUG] Upgrade considerations I've just started using VisualBox myself. I have previously used both VirtualPC and VMWare. VPC was quick and easy to get up and running but I found it frustratingly basic in terms of its management interface and soon found myself looking at VM Ware

Re: [DUG] Upgrade considerations

2009-09-24 Thread Robert martin
@delphi.org.nz Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 23:14:01 +1200 Subject: Re: [DUG] Upgrade considerations I've just started using VisualBox myself. I have previously used both VirtualPC and VMWare. VPC was quick and easy to get up and running but I found

Re: [DUG] Upgrade considerations

2009-09-24 Thread Ian Drower
eally only of relevance to people doing industrial type applications. Eric From: jsm...@deltics.co.nz To: delphi@delphi.org.nz Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 23:14:01 +1200 Subject: Re: [DUG] Upgrade considerations I've just started using VisualBox myself. I have previously used both VirtualPC

Re: [DUG] Upgrade considerations

2009-09-23 Thread Ross Levis
Developers Group - Delphi List Subject: Re: [DUG] Upgrade considerations The next question should be, should I just virtualise my development stuff, or everything (should I use the host computer for anything other than hosting my virtual machine). Currently I've been using VMWare for testing

Re: [DUG] Upgrade considerations

2009-09-23 Thread Sean Cross
...@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz] On Behalf Of Ross Levis Sent: 23 September 2009 6:15 p.m. To: 'NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List' Subject: Re: [DUG] Upgrade considerations I'm interested to know if anyone is using the free Sun VirtualBox and how it compares to VMWare. Ross

Re: [DUG] Upgrade considerations

2009-09-23 Thread Ross Levis
Group - Delphi List' Subject: Re: [DUG] Upgrade considerations Here is some quick and dirty testing I did. http://sourceitsoftware.blogspot.com/2009/07/windows-performance-index-vmwar e.html I found it nearly as fast but a bit rough around the edges. 3.1 has been released since then though. Sean

Re: [DUG] Upgrade considerations

2009-09-23 Thread Jolyon Smith
Of Ross Levis Sent: Wednesday, 23 September 2009 18:15 To: 'NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List' Subject: Re: [DUG] Upgrade considerations I'm interested to know if anyone is using the free Sun VirtualBox and how it compares to VMWare. Ross. -Original Message- From: delphi-boun

Re: [DUG] Upgrade considerations

2009-09-23 Thread Jolyon Smith
: delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz] On Behalf Of Alister Christie Sent: Wednesday, 23 September 2009 15:07 To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List Subject: Re: [DUG] Upgrade considerations I have many components that need to play nice together that I always

Re: [DUG] Upgrade considerations

2009-09-22 Thread Alister Christie
D2006 - 7 was very easy as the .bpls were compatible. I still haven't upgraded much to D2009/10 except for one half of a client server app, which I got running on D2009, then converted it to D2010 (with a firebird back end). Alister Christie Computers for People Ph: 04 471 1849 Fax: 04 471

Re: [DUG] Upgrade considerations

2009-09-22 Thread John Bird
The point I am making is that as a programmer knowing only one version and taking a big leap into the unknown -upgrading from D5 to BDS2006 it was a lot easier than I was expecting. A way lot easier - I don't recall any issues of any code that broke either. A little encouragement to those on

Re: [DUG] Upgrade considerations

2009-09-22 Thread Kyley Harris
I've been using VMware for development for about 5 years. its very good. On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 3:07 PM, Alister Christie alis...@salespartner.co.nz wrote: I have many components that need to play nice together that I always have trouble getting installed into the IDE. The D7 to D2006

Re: [DUG] Upgrade considerations

2009-09-22 Thread Sean Cross
I think my next development environment will be a Virtual Machine which will allow me to experiment a bit more aggressively, I understand that quite a few people are using VMs for this purpose these days. Alister Christie Computers for People Ph: 04 471 1849 Fax: 04 471 1266

Re: [DUG] Upgrade considerations

2009-09-22 Thread Alister Christie
The next question should be, should I just virtualise my development stuff, or everything (should I use the host computer for anything other than hosting my virtual machine). Currently I've been using VMWare for testing purposes (Windows7 compatibility, installs, client server stuff,

Re: [DUG] Upgrade considerations

2009-09-22 Thread Kyley Harris
if you have dual monitor.. its handy to run all your email, and web browsing in another VM, that way you can snapshot.. and if you get any malicious stuff just rollback and they are gone. keep the host clean. On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 3:45 PM, Alister Christie alis...@salespartner.co.nz wrote:

Re: [DUG] Upgrade considerations

2009-09-21 Thread Charlie
Borland Developers Group - Delphi List Subject: Re: [DUG] Upgrade considerations I am using the native controls by DevArt.. I find the MS SQL ones are very reliable for MS SQL 2005.. they also have ones for all the other major databases.. the licenses are not insanely high, and you get the code

[DUG] Upgrade considerations

2009-09-20 Thread Rodney Chan
Hi, I have a D7 Enterprise license and consider to upgrade after all the discussions . :) I pay it personally (it may be rare?). However, my work did not update their license since D6 and I like to keep myself updated. At the moment, I am considering upgrade to one of the following: -

Re: [DUG] Upgrade considerations

2009-09-20 Thread Todd Martin
Hi Rodney Q3 - The NZ price from Developers Inc. web page seems a bit higher when converted (possibly old exchange rate?). Should I buy from US web site or should I contact Developer Inc. to get the updated price? What are the differences? I think you need a US credit card to purchase from

Re: [DUG] Upgrade considerations

2009-09-20 Thread Kyley Harris
Rodney, I only ever use Pro Version. I use a reliable 3rd part tool for all my native database connectivity. so no issues there.. On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Todd Martin todd.martin...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Rodney Q3 - The NZ price from Developers Inc. web page seems a bit higher when

Re: [DUG] Upgrade considerations

2009-09-20 Thread Jeremy North
Q1 - Professional or Enterprise My main development is database applications and I did not use DBExpress (I used ADO) in the past.  However, I still need to connect to various DB servers (i.e. Oracle, MS SQL, MySQL, Firebird, etc.) in the future.  Will there be any major problem if I choose

Re: [DUG] Upgrade considerations

2009-09-20 Thread Ian Drower
Hi Kyley I'd be interested in the 3rd party tools you're using. I upgraded from Delphi 5 to D2007 mainly to get database connectivity, to MySQL and SQL Server, and to progress on from the BDE / Paradox databases I've been using. (Which, by the way, in the small apps I've been creating ,

Re: [DUG] Upgrade considerations

2009-09-20 Thread Kyley Harris
I am using the native controls by DevArt.. I find the MS SQL ones are very reliable for MS SQL 2005.. they also have ones for all the other major databases.. the licenses are not insanely high, and you get the code too. http://www.devart.com/sdac/ http://www.devart.com/sdac/As for Code

Re: [DUG] Upgrade considerations

2009-09-20 Thread Charlie
I too Kyley, would really like to know what 3rd party tools you use/recommend. Also when I read about the code generator that you developed; my immediate thought was I wonder if he'd be willing to teach me/others how to that for ourselves. I'm trying my darnest to arrive at a decision that will

Re: [DUG] Upgrade considerations

2009-09-20 Thread Rodney Chan
Hi Kyley (and others), Thanks for your information about DB connectivity. I also used ODAC before and the VCLs are really good, fast and stable. I have a Oracle project three years ago and customer is still using it without any problem. And you are right, if I need to do .net, it is better off

Re: [DUG] Upgrade considerations

2009-09-20 Thread Rodney Chan
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Re: [DUG] Upgrade considerations

2009-09-20 Thread John Bird
I have been lucky each time I upgraded - essentially it took around 1 hour to get working with the new version. D5 to BDS206 BDS2006 to D2007 -installed the new version, installed a few generic components -- have source for all *(see below) (you need some notes how to do this with