[DUG] XE Upgrade

2010-08-30 Thread Jeremy Coulter
Anyone else had an email about getting their XE upgrade? I just got mine now, although not going to rush to get it JUST yet. Jeremy ___ NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi mailing list Post: delphi@delphi.org.nz Admin:

Re: [DUG] XE Upgrade

2010-08-30 Thread Jolyon Smith
Nope - what's the pricing ? From: delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz] On Behalf Of Jeremy Coulter Sent: Tuesday, 31 August 2010 10:30 To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List Subject: [DUG] XE Upgrade Anyone else had an email about getting their XE

Re: [DUG] XE Upgrade

2010-08-30 Thread Alister Christie
Downloading it now Alister Christie Computers for People Ph: 04 471 1849 Fax: 04 471 1266 http://www.salespartner.co.nz PO Box 13085 Johnsonville Wellington On 31/08/2010 10:29 a.m., Jeremy Coulter wrote: Anyone else had an email about getting their XE upgrade? I just got mine now,

Re: [DUG] XE Upgrade

2010-08-30 Thread Jeremy Coulter
no idea, we are on software assurance. Jeremy On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Jolyon Smith jsm...@deltics.co.nz wrote: Nope – what’s the pricing ? *From:* delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz] *On Behalf Of *Jeremy Coulter *Sent:* Tuesday, 31 August 2010

Re: [DUG] XE Upgrade

2010-08-30 Thread Jeremy Coulter
how big is the download? One thing I am not sure about, and I keep hearing conflicting things, will XE have cross platform support? I have seen and heard about there being not 64bit, and I have seen the extra tools that are now in Xe fromt he videos, but they seem to have stared well clear of

Re: [DUG] XE Upgrade

2010-08-30 Thread Jolyon Smith
Nope - XE has no cross-platform support (in the sense of Delphi compiler support for anything other than Win32). What rock have you been living under for the past month!? J From: delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz] On Behalf Of Jeremy Coulter Sent: Tuesday,

Re: [DUG] XE Upgrade

2010-08-30 Thread Jeremy Coulter
like I say I had really not seen anything definitive. Admittedlty I didnt look THAT hard :-) Begs the question, why upgrade? About the only thing that I have seen we can use right now is the SVN stuff, and the Final builder stuff could come in handy. We have just abount finished upgrading a

Re: [DUG] XE Upgrade

2010-08-30 Thread Jolyon Smith
From what has been blogged/demonstrated of the SVN IDE integration, it doesn't appear as flexible or as useful (imho) as the JEDI SVN plug-in or indeed straightforward Tortoise. This could be the result of being an SVN adapter that is part of a generic (little g) version control plug-in

Re: [DUG] XE Upgrade

2010-08-30 Thread Richard Vowles
We are looking at having a couple of events here in October - Auckland, Christchurch. Hopefully that will give people an avenue to get a better understanding of the value RAD XE provides them. Richard On 31 August 2010 12:08, Jeremy Coulter jscoul...@gmail.com wrote: like I say I had really

Re: [DUG] XE Upgrade

2010-08-30 Thread David Brennan
One of the best arguments I have seen for upgrading is here: http://blogs.embarcadero.com/chrispattinson/2010/08/27/38971/ I'm very keen to see them continue to improve stability and speed of the IDE. You could make the argument that these are largely bug fixes which should be free (I

Re: [DUG] XE Upgrade

2010-08-30 Thread Jolyon Smith
We were told last year that Delphi 2010 was a productivity and quality improvement release while we were dangled the carrots of Win64 and the cross-platform this time around. Now Delphi XE is being sold as ANOTHER productivity and quality improvement release. Just how bad are they prepared to

Re: [DUG] XE Upgrade

2010-08-30 Thread Colin Johnsun
Hi Jolyon, On 31 August 2010 13:12, Jolyon Smith jsm...@deltics.co.nz wrote: I might be more impressed if they had actually fixed some of the bugs I myself reported that have languished in QC for 8+ years (and had not introduced new ones related to those in the meantime). Just curious,

Re: [DUG] XE Upgrade

2010-08-30 Thread Jolyon Smith
Some had certainly not been addressed as of Delphi 2010. These are unlikely to have been addressed in XE either since their status already suggests that they are considered fixed (or in the case of suggestions/enhancements, implemented) when they are not. Which raises the question of what a

Re: [DUG] XE Upgrade

2010-08-30 Thread David Brennan
At the very least this time around they should be offering the unpadded versions for significantly less than the normal price of an upgrade. That is an interesting idea which I agree would be nice. I suspect Embarcadero would rather just keep quiet and soldier on because any concession like

Re: [DUG] XE Upgrade

2010-08-30 Thread Jeremy North
I had a look at your items. A couple of items are suggestions for new directives/reserved words. These decisions are not taken lightly. Especially prior to the new back end compiler. A lot of these were made during the time Danny was looking after the compiler, it is no secret he wasn't a fan of

Re: [DUG] XE Upgrade

2010-08-30 Thread Jolyon Smith
Yep, I forget the item #'s and don't have time to look them up right now, but there was a suggestion w.r.t ASSERT() syntax highlighting that is indicated as resolved/fixed/whatever. It isn't. There was another which is a bug caused by qualifying class names in a form declaration or naming a form

Re: [DUG] XE Upgrade

2010-08-30 Thread Jeremy North
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 2:44 PM, Jolyon Smith jsm...@deltics.co.nz wrote: Yep, I forget the item #'s and don't have time to look them up right now, but there was a suggestion w.r.t ASSERT() syntax highlighting that is indicated as resolved/fixed/whatever.  It isn't. This got the infamous

Re: [DUG] XE Upgrade

2010-08-30 Thread Jeremy North
Here is a link to new items in XE. http://docwiki.embarcadero.com/RADStudio/en/What%27s_New_in_Delphi_and_C%2B%2BBuilder_XE On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 3:01 PM, Jeremy North jeremy.no...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 2:44 PM, Jolyon Smith jsm...@deltics.co.nz wrote: Yep, I forget the

Re: [DUG] XE Upgrade

2010-08-30 Thread Jolyon Smith
It is pretty lame but it was really a Quick Fix measure to pump up the QC figures - in my opinion. That sort of thing goes on? gasp ;) e.g. File New VCL Application, rename form as MainMenu (yielding a form class name of TMainMenu) then drop a TMainMenu component on it. I noticed