[libreoffice-design] "Save as" description in Save Options

2011-04-29 Thread Jared Meidal
I've found the list for alternative default file formats in the 3.4 betas (tested b2, b3) are being reworked. Perhaps it is still not close to being finalized, but I've noticed the file extensions ".*" are not included any more. I'm running this on WinXP currently. I would love to see this

Re: XML based UI? (was: Re: Platform Independent vs. Platform Specific Behavior (was: Re: [libreoffice-design] Take inspiration from Lotus Symphony ?))

2011-04-29 Thread Scott Pledger
Can you direct me to the specifications that were set for the replacement UI engine?? I'm curious to see what it entailed... And sorry if I stepped on any toes with my other post - its an idea I've had basically since high school and so I was just trying to get some input on it! :) Yours Truly, S

Re: XML based UI? (was: Re: Platform Independent vs. Platform Specific Behavior (was: Re: [libreoffice-design] Take inspiration from Lotus Symphony ?))

2011-04-29 Thread Kohei Yoshida
On Fri, 2011-04-29 at 18:11 +0200, Christoph Noack wrote: > Hi Kohei, hi Scott! > > Kohei, thanks for the helpful information here ... great that you're > listening here (especially since I know your workload...)! No problem. I decided to jump in because we (the developers) have been discussing

Re: XML based UI? (was: Re: Platform Independent vs. Platform Specific Behavior (was: Re: [libreoffice-design] Take inspiration from Lotus Symphony ?))

2011-04-29 Thread Kohei Yoshida
On Fri, 2011-04-29 at 13:18 -0600, Scott Pledger wrote: > Any thoughts? Before we go overboard with this, I'd like to point out that a lot of us developers have already gone through quite a lot of brainstorming and trials and errors, and I don't want us to discuss this over here on the design lis

Re: XML based UI? (was: Re: Platform Independent vs. Platform Specific Behavior (was: Re: [libreoffice-design] Take inspiration from Lotus Symphony ?))

2011-04-29 Thread Christoph Noack
Hi Scott, you get a "phew" from my side ;-) Am Freitag, den 29.04.2011, 13:18 -0600 schrieb Scott Pledger: > The more I look at the source code for vcl, the more I am beginning to > dislike it And I'm looking at some of the other XML-based UI languages > available and none of them really seem

Re: XML based UI? (was: Re: Platform Independent vs. Platform Specific Behavior (was: Re: [libreoffice-design] Take inspiration from Lotus Symphony ?))

2011-04-29 Thread Scott Pledger
The more I look at the source code for vcl, the more I am beginning to dislike it And I'm looking at some of the other XML-based UI languages available and none of them really seem adequate to describe any kind of a major UI overhaul that would keep LibreOffice up to date with other office suit

Re: [libreoffice-design] Questions about "style" name

2011-04-29 Thread Christoph Noack
Hi Octavio! Am Freitag, den 29.04.2011, 11:47 -0700 schrieb Octavio Alvarez: > On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 13:38:15 -0700, Christoph Noack > wrote: > > > Hi Octavio, Ricardo, all! > > > > Am Mittwoch, den 27.04.2011, 10:20 -0700 schrieb Octavio Alvarez: > >> On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 13:35:08 -0700, RGB ES w

Re: [libreoffice-design] Questions about "style" name

2011-04-29 Thread Christoph Noack
Hi all! Quick reply (tm) ... :-) Am Freitag, den 29.04.2011, 20:29 +0200 schrieb RGB ES: > 2011/4/29 Michel RENON : > > Le 26/04/11 22:04, Christoph Noack a écrit : [ ... Styles Proposal ... ] > >> Of course, there are other ways of improving the use of Styles ... but > >> this needs a whiteboa

Re: [libreoffice-design] Questions about "style" name

2011-04-29 Thread Octavio Alvarez
On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 13:38:15 -0700, Christoph Noack wrote: Hi Octavio, Ricardo, all! Am Mittwoch, den 27.04.2011, 10:20 -0700 schrieb Octavio Alvarez: On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 13:35:08 -0700, RGB ES wrote: there is no indicator on the user interface to show if there is any applied on the text.

Re: [libreoffice-design] Questions about "style" name

2011-04-29 Thread RGB ES
2011/4/29 Michel RENON : > Le 26/04/11 22:04, Christoph Noack a écrit : >> >> Hi, >> >> [...] >> >> >> We discussed this issue many times at OOo, and I came to the following >> (personal) conclusion; we need ... >>       * a more sensible selection of styles (e.g. attach the list styles >>        

Re: [libreoffice-design] LibreOffice Venezuela logo - a proposal

2011-04-29 Thread Helio S. Ferreira
== Thanks guys, The idea is that this be used as a template for communities. I will work on other proposals, according to the suggestions. []'s On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 12:16 PM, RGB ES wrote: > 2011/4/28 Helio S. Ferreira : > > Hi Daniel, all. > > > > I'm proposing an alternative to t

Re: [libreoffice-design] Questions about "style" name

2011-04-29 Thread Michel RENON
Le 26/04/11 22:04, Christoph Noack a écrit : Hi, [...] We discussed this issue many times at OOo, and I came to the following (personal) conclusion; we need ... * a more sensible selection of styles (e.g. attach the list styles to the paragraph styles intended for list use)

RE: [libreoffice-design] Re: Platform Independent vs. Platform Specific Behavior

2011-04-29 Thread Daniel Merker
This may sound like blasphemy to Fedora people, but... What about moving to Mono (and making it more C# like)... -Original Message- From: Michel RENON [mailto:michel.re...@free.fr] Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 12:55 PM To: design@libreoffice.org Subject: [libreoffice-design] Re: Platform

Re: [libreoffice-design] special process for urgent ux items ?

2011-04-29 Thread Michel RENON
Le 25/04/11 14:18, Christoph Noack a écrit : [...] How to start, well, maybe we can do it in a collaborative manner to evaluate the issues without (at the moment) using the bugtracker - to me, it seems to provide a better overview. Once we have some selected items, we might ask the developers ho

[libreoffice-design] Re: Platform Independent vs. Platform Specific Behavior

2011-04-29 Thread Michel RENON
Hi, Le 29/04/11 07:15, Scott Pledger a écrit : Is there any chance of implementing any kind of an XML-based UI template? Something similar to XUL may be a good place to start... Yours Truly, Scott Pledger You're not the first to have this idea ;-) I digged into some folders and found the s

Re: [libreoffice-design] New Layout Concept - Update

2011-04-29 Thread RGB ES
2011/4/29 Scott Pledger : > I'm working on that, too.  From what I can see of the old graphical layout > utility that we use, there is no way for us to create this in an easy > fashion.  What I think we can do, however, is to replace the old vcl library > with something new.  I'm looking at using X

Re: [libreoffice-design] Templates, styles, outline and bullets/numbering

2011-04-29 Thread RGB ES
2011/4/29 Greg : >> 2011/4/28 Greg : >> > Hi, >> > >> > I believe Writer's template, style, outline and numbering facilities are >> > in need of a rethink. The areas I think are weak, and this is by no >> > means a full list, are: >> > - The template organiser dialogue - who knows how to use it and

XML based UI? (was: Re: Platform Independent vs. Platform Specific Behavior (was: Re: [libreoffice-design] Take inspiration from Lotus Symphony ?))

2011-04-29 Thread Christoph Noack
Hi Kohei, hi Scott! Kohei, thanks for the helpful information here ... great that you're listening here (especially since I know your workload...)! Am Freitag, den 29.04.2011, 10:25 -0400 schrieb Kohei Yoshida: > On Thu, 2011-04-28 at 23:15 -0600, Scott Pledger wrote: > > Is there any chance of i

Re: Platform Independent vs. Platform Specific Behavior (was: Re: [libreoffice-design] Take inspiration from Lotus Symphony ?)

2011-04-29 Thread Scott Pledger
I've got a few new ideas in mind that we may be able to pull some of the code from vcl into... See the below excerpt from the 'New Layout Concept - Update' that I just posted: *> I'm working on that, too. From what I can see of the old graphical layout * *> utility that we use, there is no way fo

Re: [libreoffice-design] New Layout Concept - Update

2011-04-29 Thread Scott Pledger
I'm working on that, too. From what I can see of the old graphical layout utility that we use, there is no way for us to create this in an easy fashion. What I think we can do, however, is to replace the old vcl library with something new. I'm looking at using XUL instead, but the problem so far

Re: [libreoffice-design] New Layout Concept - Update

2011-04-29 Thread Cyril Arnaud
That's a really nice mock up. But how do we make it a reality now ? On Thu, 2011-04-28 at 15:44 -0600, Scott Pledger wrote: > > > I have done a bit more work on the layout concept I described in some > earlier emails. Let me know what you think!! The File and View menus are > interactive when

Re: Platform Independent vs. Platform Specific Behavior (was: Re: [libreoffice-design] Take inspiration from Lotus Symphony ?)

2011-04-29 Thread Kohei Yoshida
On Thu, 2011-04-28 at 23:15 -0600, Scott Pledger wrote: > Is there any chance of implementing any kind of an XML-based UI template? > Something similar to XUL may be a good place to start... We don't have any concrete vision of what the VCL replacement should look like, but making UI definition f

[libreoffice-design] Re: Design Team Kick-Off Step 4: What We Need - Review, Please

2011-04-29 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Christoph Noack wrote: > @ Björn, Thorsten: I've CCed you, since you have been active in some > discussions here - could you please scan the table and provide some > feedback, please? My hope is that you may have a look at the sections: > * Deliverables and Work Results > * Cooperatio

Re: [libreoffice-design] Proposition to combine the Apply/Reset buttons

2011-04-29 Thread Astron
> My position on this is, that once we provide Revert or Undo button, > we'll (logically) have to add a Redo button, too. > So, another idea could again be a dual button, this time [ ← | → ] > (the icons should be those the global Undo/Redo function uses, too) -- > these would duplicate only those