Hi all,
On 7 December 2013 22:11, Charles-H. Schulz
charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote:
I am concerned that thls call to postpone is rooted in unrealistic
expectations and ultimately makes us lose time while demotivating team
members.
Well, I am kind of afraid to open this can of
Hi Mirek,
Mirek M. píše v Pá 27. 12. 2013 v 16:23 +0100:
* Please make it clear visually that Create is a label and not a button.
If you don't want to differentiate using font size and weight, you can add
icons for Open and Templates (those are part of
Hi Kendy
Jan Holesovsky-4 wrote
http://pasteboard.co/2yzkqeXD.png
Hope it's OK; it should make it to RC2, so we will still have time to
revert this change should it turn out during testing that the icons are
annoying or anything.
We'll go through the rest of the issues too, but not 100%
On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 9:29 AM, Mirek M. maz...@gmail.com wrote:
* At smaller sizes, the thumbnails are much harder to make out. Take a look
I don't think there's an actual need to make out things. You have
the name of the document as well, don't you? And for anything bigger
you can open a
Sorry for contradicting you, but I absolutely hate those huge
previews, these are so inefficient, wasting an insane amount of space
(I do not own a big monitor, y'know). Shouldn't these adapt to smaller
screens, and netbooks?
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Mirek M. wrote (28-12-13 00:50)
2013/12/27 Cor Nouws oo...@nouenoff.nl
Was the size in beta2 90x90 or so ?
It was a smaller than 180x180, but I don't remember the exact size.
It was 115 px hart to hart for the thumbnails.
In rc1 that is (appr) 275 px.
So appr. 180 hart to hart should be OK
Hi Kendy,
Sorry for replying so very late, I had some problems with compilation.
I'm really digging the bigger previews -- thanks for all your work! :)
My niggles are now purely minuscule and I guess largely subjective. (I'd
still prefer #f9f9f9 for the background of the document area, a 16px
Hi Cor, Pedro,
2013/12/24 Cor Nouws oo...@nouenoff.nl
Pedro wrote (14-12-13 10:12)
Jan Holesovsky-4 wrote
- Thumbnails
I considerably increased their size, and improved their drawing
algorithm to antialias the pictures. Also for the files that have no
thumbnail, I made it look
2013/12/27 Mirek M. maz...@gmail.com
Hi Cor, Pedro,
2013/12/24 Cor Nouws oo...@nouenoff.nl
Pedro wrote (14-12-13 10:12)
Jan Holesovsky-4 wrote
- Thumbnails
I considerably increased their size, and improved their drawing
algorithm to antialias the pictures. Also for the files
The thumbnails are there to be able to set apart documents at a glance, so
there's some need to be able to make out the basics, though it's true that
with documents, you'll mostly be looking at the layout and perhaps the
title.
All these things said (talking about my recent messages, not just
Pedro wrote (14-12-13 10:12)
Jan Holesovsky-4 wrote
- Thumbnails
I considerably increased their size, and improved their drawing
algorithm to antialias the pictures. Also for the files that have no
thumbnail, I made it look like the icon is on a piece of paper; looks
much more
Hi Kendy
Jan Holesovsky-4 wrote
- Create
When playing with that, it started to annoy me that it is _above_ the
separator line, and that it has smaller font size. Also, it logically
belongs to the group of the buttons, so I moved it there, gave it the
same size as the button text,
Jan Holesovsky-4 wrote
Empty start center, with no documents:
http://artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~kendy/design-list/startcenter-empty.png
With two text lines, can font for Welcome be bumped a couple points larger?
And could fonts be assigned a couple of complementary colors from the green
pallet
Hi Mirek, all,
Mirek M. píše v St 04. 12. 2013 v 10:03 +0100:
Yes, here are the decisions [1]:
* Keep sidebar on the left for LTR locales, have it on the right for
RTL locales.
* Use thumbnails, but indicate file type using colors or badges. -- We
still need to design this, but if we
1. Please, add Open and Templates icons from current build (
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/e/e4/4.2_start_center.png )
2. Remove Help button (from bottom, left corner). There is the same
button above the toolbar (menu File, Tool,
Help). Instead of give users button-link to template's
Le 13/12/2013 20:34, Mateusz Zasuwik a écrit :
1. Please, add Open and Templates icons from current build (
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/e/e4/4.2_start_center.png )
2. Remove Help button (from bottom, left corner). There is the same
button above the toolbar (menu File, Tool,
Hi Michel
Michel RENON wrote
IMHO, it's a bad decision :
it clearly means that the design is incomplete.
And it's not during the Beta phase that such work can be started.
My suggestion is to postpone the start center for the 4.3 release.
It's possible because the current start center is
Hi
Just to be clear, Michel's idea is to postpone the new start center, not
LibreOffice itself.
Make the new startcenter as an experimental feature for example and to be
default in 4.3 could be a solution.
2013/12/7 Pedro pedl...@gmail.com
Hi Michel
Michel RENON wrote
IMHO, it's a bad
Arnaud,
What would be Michel's readons to post pone the start center to the 4.3?
I am concerned that thls call to postpone is rooted in unrealistic expectations
and ultimately makes us lose time while demotivating team members.
Best,
Charles.
Arnaud Versini arnaud.vers...@gmail.com a écrit
Le 07/12/2013 22:11, Charles-H. Schulz a écrit :
Arnaud,
What would be Michel's readons to post pone the start center to the
4.3?
I am concerned that thls call to postpone is rooted in unrealistic
expectations and ultimately makes us lose time while demotivating
team members.
Agreed,
Le 06/12/2013 01:12, Michel Renon a écrit :
Hi,
[...]
IMHO, it's a bad decision :
it clearly means that the design is incomplete.
And it's not during the Beta phase that such work can be started.
My suggestion is to postpone the start center for the 4.3 release.
I disagree, if we wait
Hi,
Le 04/12/2013 10:03, Mirek M. a écrit :
2013/12/4 Jan Holesovsky ke...@collabora.com
Hi Mirek,
Mirek M. píše v Čt 28. 11. 2013 v 22:01 +0100:
Please wait with the text until after this week's IRC chat, where we
should finally reach consensus on all the controversial topics --
Hi Mirek,
Mirek M. píše v Čt 28. 11. 2013 v 22:01 +0100:
Please wait with the text until after this week's IRC chat, where we
should finally reach consensus on all the controversial topics --
including button labels and the welcome text.
Do we have the consensus now, please?
Thank you,
2013/12/4 Jan Holesovsky ke...@collabora.com
Hi Mirek,
Mirek M. píše v Čt 28. 11. 2013 v 22:01 +0100:
Please wait with the text until after this week's IRC chat, where we
should finally reach consensus on all the controversial topics --
including button labels and the welcome text.
Hi mirek, all
mirek2 wrote
I hope most of the suggestions in my message aren't controversial, though.
(At least, it seems so by the lack of responses here.)
Except the one about the capitalization of the Create label -- let's
keep
it capitalized as it is now (so not all-caps).
In my
Hi Mirek,
Mirek M. píše v St 27. 11. 2013 v 21:23 +0100:
The Start Center is a hot topic right now, I thought I'd chime in with
my few cents.
Kendy, sorry for asking you to do more work, I know you're busy. If
you decide to just keep the center as is for now, that's fine.
Also, sorry if I
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