Re: [Snowdrift-design] New, updated intro-video script and audio
Aaron is in PST, which I think is 9 hours behind you. Note that daylight savings happens earlier in the US than in Germany. For us, it is this Sunday. So, there will be a short period where it is only an 8 hour difference. Because of that, I'd just give times in your local time zone, so they stay accurate even as we go through daylight savings. On March 9, 2017 4:17:43 AM EST, "J.wuensch" wrote: >Hey Aron! >Sorry for the late reply, it had been a pretty busy week until now. I'm >not quite sure about the time shift. Where are you located? Is it a 12h >difference to germany? If we do it at the same time like the monday >meeting then next wednesday would work for me. > >Johannes > > > > > >---- Original Message ---- >Subject: Re: [Snowdrift-design] New, updated intro-video script and >audio >Local Time: 7. März 2017 4:45 AM >UTC Time: 7. März 2017 03:45 >From: aa...@snowdrift.coop >To: design@lists.snowdrift.coop > >So, we discussed today that it would make sense to schedule another >live >meeting where Robert, Johannes, I, and anyone else who cares to join us >discuss plans for the next steps in updating the script and video plans >etc. > >For reference for others reading this, some draft bits of animations: > >https://snowdrift.sylphs.net/seafhttp/files/6effbf9d-f77a-4997-82b0-50bf81765512/Animatic_v02.mp4 > >https://snowdrift.sylphs.net/seafhttp/files/c83bf2d5-71f7-4d8e-811c-24aef7ce7ff3/x02_mechanism.mp4 > >So, Johannes, when works for you? Let's find a time that works for us >and then anyone else who joins us, great. > >Cheers, >Aaron > > >On 02/17/2017 10:06 AM, J.wuensch wrote: >> Ok, lets meet under https://meet.jit.si/snowdrift_video then. I think >my >> brother will join, too. See you in an hour! >> >> Johannes >> >> >> Sent from ProtonMail <https://protonmail.ch>, encrypted email based >in >> Switzerland. >> >> >>> Original Message >>> Subject: Re: [Snowdrift-design] New, updated intro-video script and >audio >>> Local Time: February 13, 2017 5:53 PM >>> UTC Time: February 13, 2017 4:53 PM >>> From: m...@mray.de >>> To: design@lists.snowdrift.coop >>> >>> >>> On 13.02.2017 13:04, J.wuensch wrote: >>> > Hey Robert! >>> > Sorry, I messed something up with an appointment I have as I >thought >>> it would be on friday, but actually it's on thursday evening. So I >>> would suggest friday at 8 pm. Does that work for you, too? >>> > >>> > Johannes >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> Friday 17.2. 20:00 works for me! Lets meet then. >>> >>> >>> Robert >>> >>> ___ >>> Design mailing list >>> Design@lists.snowdrift.coop >>> https://lists.snowdrift.coop/mailman/listinfo/design >> >> >> >> ___ >> Design mailing list >> Design@lists.snowdrift.coop >> https://lists.snowdrift.coop/mailman/listinfo/design >> > > >___ >Design mailing list >Design@lists.snowdrift.coop >https://lists.snowdrift.coop/mailman/listinfo/design -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.___ Design mailing list Design@lists.snowdrift.coop https://lists.snowdrift.coop/mailman/listinfo/design
Re: [Snowdrift-design] New, updated intro-video script and audio
Hey Aron! Sorry for the late reply, it had been a pretty busy week until now. I'm not quite sure about the time shift. Where are you located? Is it a 12h difference to germany? If we do it at the same time like the monday meeting then next wednesday would work for me. Johannes Original Message Subject: Re: [Snowdrift-design] New, updated intro-video script and audio Local Time: 7. März 2017 4:45 AM UTC Time: 7. März 2017 03:45 From: aa...@snowdrift.coop To: design@lists.snowdrift.coop So, we discussed today that it would make sense to schedule another live meeting where Robert, Johannes, I, and anyone else who cares to join us discuss plans for the next steps in updating the script and video plans etc. For reference for others reading this, some draft bits of animations: https://snowdrift.sylphs.net/seafhttp/files/6effbf9d-f77a-4997-82b0-50bf81765512/Animatic_v02.mp4 https://snowdrift.sylphs.net/seafhttp/files/c83bf2d5-71f7-4d8e-811c-24aef7ce7ff3/x02_mechanism.mp4 So, Johannes, when works for you? Let's find a time that works for us and then anyone else who joins us, great. Cheers, Aaron On 02/17/2017 10:06 AM, J.wuensch wrote: > Ok, lets meet under https://meet.jit.si/snowdrift_video then. I think my > brother will join, too. See you in an hour! > > Johannes > > > Sent from ProtonMail <https://protonmail.ch>, encrypted email based in > Switzerland. > > >> Original Message ---- >> Subject: Re: [Snowdrift-design] New, updated intro-video script and audio >> Local Time: February 13, 2017 5:53 PM >> UTC Time: February 13, 2017 4:53 PM >> From: m...@mray.de >> To: design@lists.snowdrift.coop >> >> >> On 13.02.2017 13:04, J.wuensch wrote: >> > Hey Robert! >> > Sorry, I messed something up with an appointment I have as I thought >> it would be on friday, but actually it's on thursday evening. So I >> would suggest friday at 8 pm. Does that work for you, too? >> > >> > Johannes >> > >> > >> >> >> Friday 17.2. 20:00 works for me! Lets meet then. >> >> >> Robert >> >> ___ >> Design mailing list >> Design@lists.snowdrift.coop >> https://lists.snowdrift.coop/mailman/listinfo/design > > > > ___ > Design mailing list > Design@lists.snowdrift.coop > https://lists.snowdrift.coop/mailman/listinfo/design > ___ Design mailing list Design@lists.snowdrift.coop https://lists.snowdrift.coop/mailman/listinfo/design___ Design mailing list Design@lists.snowdrift.coop https://lists.snowdrift.coop/mailman/listinfo/design
Re: [Snowdrift-design] New, updated intro-video script and audio
So, we discussed today that it would make sense to schedule another live meeting where Robert, Johannes, I, and anyone else who cares to join us discuss plans for the next steps in updating the script and video plans etc. For reference for others reading this, some draft bits of animations: https://snowdrift.sylphs.net/seafhttp/files/6effbf9d-f77a-4997-82b0-50bf81765512/Animatic_v02.mp4 https://snowdrift.sylphs.net/seafhttp/files/c83bf2d5-71f7-4d8e-811c-24aef7ce7ff3/x02_mechanism.mp4 So, Johannes, when works for you? Let's find a time that works for us and then anyone else who joins us, great. Cheers, Aaron On 02/17/2017 10:06 AM, J.wuensch wrote: > Ok, lets meet under https://meet.jit.si/snowdrift_video then. I think my > brother will join, too. See you in an hour! > > Johannes > > > Sent from ProtonMail <https://protonmail.ch>, encrypted email based in > Switzerland. > > >> -------- Original Message ---- >> Subject: Re: [Snowdrift-design] New, updated intro-video script and audio >> Local Time: February 13, 2017 5:53 PM >> UTC Time: February 13, 2017 4:53 PM >> From: m...@mray.de >> To: design@lists.snowdrift.coop >> >> >> On 13.02.2017 13:04, J.wuensch wrote: >> > Hey Robert! >> > Sorry, I messed something up with an appointment I have as I thought >> it would be on friday, but actually it's on thursday evening. So I >> would suggest friday at 8 pm. Does that work for you, too? >> > >> > Johannes >> > >> > >> >> >> Friday 17.2. 20:00 works for me! Lets meet then. >> >> >> Robert >> >> ___ >> Design mailing list >> Design@lists.snowdrift.coop >> https://lists.snowdrift.coop/mailman/listinfo/design > > > > ___ > Design mailing list > Design@lists.snowdrift.coop > https://lists.snowdrift.coop/mailman/listinfo/design > signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Design mailing list Design@lists.snowdrift.coop https://lists.snowdrift.coop/mailman/listinfo/design
Re: [Snowdrift-design] New, updated intro-video script and audio
Ok, lets meet under https://meet.jit.si/snowdrift_video then. I think my brother will join, too. See you in an hour! Johannes Sent from [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.ch), encrypted email based in Switzerland. Original Message Subject: Re: [Snowdrift-design] New, updated intro-video script and audio Local Time: February 13, 2017 5:53 PM UTC Time: February 13, 2017 4:53 PM From: m...@mray.de To: design@lists.snowdrift.coop On 13.02.2017 13:04, J.wuensch wrote: > Hey Robert! > Sorry, I messed something up with an appointment I have as I thought it would > be on friday, but actually it's on thursday evening. So I would suggest > friday at 8 pm. Does that work for you, too? > > Johannes > > Friday 17.2. 20:00 works for me! Lets meet then. Robert ___ Design mailing list Design@lists.snowdrift.coop https://lists.snowdrift.coop/mailman/listinfo/design___ Design mailing list Design@lists.snowdrift.coop https://lists.snowdrift.coop/mailman/listinfo/design
Re: [Snowdrift-design] New, updated intro-video script and audio
On 13.02.2017 13:04, J.wuensch wrote: > Hey Robert! > Sorry, I messed something up with an appointment I have as I thought it would > be on friday, but actually it's on thursday evening. So I would suggest > friday at 8 pm. Does that work for you, too? > > Johannes > > Friday 17.2. 20:00 works for me! Lets meet then. Robert signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Design mailing list Design@lists.snowdrift.coop https://lists.snowdrift.coop/mailman/listinfo/design
Re: [Snowdrift-design] New, updated intro-video script and audio
Hey Robert! Sorry, I messed something up with an appointment I have as I thought it would be on friday, but actually it's on thursday evening. So I would suggest friday at 8 pm. Does that work for you, too? Johannes Sent from [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.ch), encrypted email based in Switzerland. Original Message Subject: Re: [Snowdrift-design] New, updated intro-video script and audio Local Time: 13. Februar 2017 8:55 AM UTC Time: 13. Februar 2017 07:55 From: m...@mray.de To: design@lists.snowdrift.coop On 12.02.2017 20:59, J.wuensch wrote: > Thanks Aron! > > Yes, we will see if the audio works as it is. If not, we will let you know. ;) > > @mray > I think it's time to soon make a jitsi kickoff meeting for the video > production. I'll have time next weekend or we could do it thursday evening > (16.Feb) and then begin with the animatic or storyboard. > > I downloaded and installed the seafile-client today. It would be nice to get > access to that library / folder / server > (https://snowdrift.sylphs.net/d/7d74cfd129/?p=/assets&mode=list) My E-Mail to > add is: j.wuen...@protonmail.com > > Thanks and see you soon, > Johannes > > Thank you to be on top of this! I haven't had time to look into the material yet, but the sooner we can get going the better. Thursday 16.02. sounds fine to me, what time would work for you? I'd be available in the evening from about 19:30 on or more early at about 9:30. -Robert ___ Design mailing list Design@lists.snowdrift.coop https://lists.snowdrift.coop/mailman/listinfo/design___ Design mailing list Design@lists.snowdrift.coop https://lists.snowdrift.coop/mailman/listinfo/design
Re: [Snowdrift-design] New, updated intro-video script and audio
On 12.02.2017 20:59, J.wuensch wrote: > Thanks Aron! > > Yes, we will see if the audio works as it is. If not, we will let you know. ;) > > @mray > I think it's time to soon make a jitsi kickoff meeting for the video > production. I'll have time next weekend or we could do it thursday evening > (16.Feb) and then begin with the animatic or storyboard. > > I downloaded and installed the seafile-client today. It would be nice to get > access to that library / folder / server > (https://snowdrift.sylphs.net/d/7d74cfd129/?p=/assets&mode=list) My E-Mail to > add is: j.wuen...@protonmail.com > > Thanks and see you soon, > Johannes > > Thank you to be on top of this! I haven't had time to look into the material yet, but the sooner we can get going the better. Thursday 16.02. sounds fine to me, what time would work for you? I'd be available in the evening from about 19:30 on or more early at about 9:30. -Robert signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Design mailing list Design@lists.snowdrift.coop https://lists.snowdrift.coop/mailman/listinfo/design
Re: [Snowdrift-design] New, updated intro-video script and audio
Thanks Aron! Yes, we will see if the audio works as it is. If not, we will let you know. ;) @mray I think it's time to soon make a jitsi kickoff meeting for the video production. I'll have time next weekend or we could do it thursday evening (16.Feb) and then begin with the animatic or storyboard. I downloaded and installed the seafile-client today. It would be nice to get access to that library / folder / server (https://snowdrift.sylphs.net/d/7d74cfd129/?p=/assets&mode=list) My E-Mail to add is: j.wuen...@protonmail.com Thanks and see you soon, Johannes Sent from [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.ch), encrypted email based in Switzerland. Original Message Subject: [Snowdrift-design] New, updated intro-video script and audio Local Time: February 10, 2017 6:42 AM UTC Time: February 10, 2017 5:42 AM From: aa...@snowdrift.coop To: design@lists.snowdrift.coop Okay, after much delay (so sorry everyone!) I finally have major progress here. Several issues came up with the script when recording the audio. The most stark was that jumping in with the budget line was totally non-sequitur, had no connection to the rest of the script. A few other words just flowed badly in terms of their sound (actual flow of phonemes), and some bits lacked clarity. The new script (which now has audio ready for storyboarding) has fewer high-level words, so it's easier to understand, everything flows well. No, it's not perfect, and there are a few variations of each line that are equally good and just have different trade-offs. But this really works finally. Here's the script: ``` 1. Things like software, music, journalism, and research *can* be public goods, freely used and shared by *everyone*. 2. But most publishers keep exclusive control so they can show ads and charge access fees. 3. And projects released under free and open terms don't get enough funding. 4. To solve this dilemma, we developed a cooperative fundraising method which we call crowd*matching*. 5. You support a project by pledging a monthly donation of 1 cent for every 10 patrons who give with you. 6. So, a thousand patrons means a thousand dollars; and 5,000 patrons at 5 dollars each would bring a project's monthly income to 25,000 dollars. 7. With this pledge, you give up some individual control in order to build consensus and grow the crowd. 8. But you still choose which projects stay active within your overall budget for the system. 9. Join Snowdrift.coop today, and help clear the path to a free and open future! ``` And here's 13 takes of audio with just some variation in delivery and vocal style: http://snowdrift.sylphs.net/d/841e82092d/ Note that I changed one word in the script after recording. The "and" in line 6 was a "but" when I recorded the audio. This shouldn't affect the storyboarding process and can be edited later or re-record the audio. Yes, there's some room to tweak things, especially the audio delivery, but I really want to go forward with using this and storyboarding and get the video done. Between here and the final video, the audio itself can be tweaked, a light ambient music background can be added, etc. Nothing is set in stone. But this script finally passes all the requirements I have, and I tried it with various people for feedback, including those not really involved. It finally works well overall for the limited time. Please, video animation folks, get to work. I won't offer suggestions. Make some good storyboards and then show the rest of us! Cheers, Aaron -- Aaron Wolf co-founder, Snowdrift.coop ___ Design mailing list Design@lists.snowdrift.coop https://lists.snowdrift.coop/mailman/listinfo/design___ Design mailing list Design@lists.snowdrift.coop https://lists.snowdrift.coop/mailman/listinfo/design
