[Bug 603746] Re: the word 加入 in grou p managment should be 新增

2010-08-11 Thread Milan Bouchet-Valat
I've applied the changes in explained in my comment #19, I hope that will be enough. Commit is 85e1a92, which will be available in GNOME 2.32 for Maverick. See attached screenshot for a preview (sorry for the ugly theme, GTK+3.0 without engines that is). ** Attachment added: Capture.png

[Bug 603746] Re: the word 加入 in grou p managment should be 新增

2010-08-11 Thread Milan Bouchet-Valat
** Changed in: gnome-system-tools (Ubuntu) Status: Fix Released = Triaged ** Also affects: gst Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Changed in: gst Status: New = Fix Released -- the word 加入 in group managment should be 新增 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/603746 You

[Bug 603746] Re: the word 加入 in grou p managment should be 新增

2010-08-10 Thread Milan Bouchet-Valat
I understand this concern, but I don't think that's the problem here: - Add/Delete means Add/Delete and item of the list, and the ambiguous point here is: what's in the list? (users or groups). The general idea of having short labels is pretty intuitive and is used in many other places (file

[Bug 603746] Re: the word 加入 in grou p managment should be 新增

2010-08-10 Thread Milan Bouchet-Valat
...a global configuration window, and not something affecting only the current user. ** Changed in: gnome-system-tools (Ubuntu) Status: Invalid = Triaged ** Changed in: gnome-system-tools (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = Low -- the word 加入 in group managment should be 新增

[Bug 603746] Re: the word 加入 in grou p managment should be 新增

2010-08-10 Thread Cheng-Chia Tseng
I agree with using Add Group and Add User, that is absolutely more clear when we don't have titles above the list. However, if we are going to have tiltle above the list, I think that it would be too repeative to use Add Group and Add User buttons. -- the word 加入 in group managment should be 新增

[Bug 603746] Re: the word 加入 in grou p managment should be 新增

2010-08-10 Thread Cheng-Chia Tseng
@Arne I thik you have missed the point here. Because what the user see here is actually a list of goups available on system not the groups which the user is a member of, there is no way to let the user become a member of by using Add buttun. The button here is for creating a new group for the

[Bug 603746] Re: the word 加入 in grou p managment should be 新增

2010-08-08 Thread Milan Bouchet-Valat
I don't believe that would improve things. The confusion is not around the fact that the list represents groups: it's quite obvious, since the list in the main window represented users, and you clicked on Manage Groups. The problem can be that we don't know whether the groups are those present on

[Bug 603746] Re: the word 加入 in grou p managment should be 新增

2010-08-08 Thread Cheng-Chia Tseng
Well, it might be funny that the first time I saw the user list I didn't realise that it is a list (I have only ONE user then, so I thought I was editing all the settings of THAT user) until I click the Add button two days ago. :P That's what the saying goes, if you never try, you will never now.

[Bug 603746] Re: the word 加入 in grou p managment should be 新增

2010-08-07 Thread Milan Bouchet-Valat
I don't think there can be a real confusion, simply clicking on the button will be enough to find out what the button means if needed. I'll add a tooltip if you think that's worth it, though. -- the word 加入 in group managment should be 新增 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/603746 You received this

[Bug 603746] Re: the word 加入 in grou p managment should be 新增

2010-08-07 Thread Frets
@Milan Bouchet-Valat To be honest user interfaces have to be intuitive. Needing a user to click and then understand what is with a button is not preferrable. But I do believe that this is not an issue anyway. -- the word 加入 in group managment should be 新增 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/603746

[Bug 603746] Re: the word 加入 in grou p managment should be 新增

2010-08-07 Thread Milan Bouchet-Valat
My point was that it should be obvious what the button does for most people, and that /in addition/ there's no risk of being misled since in the end, clicking the button will explain it all. But I agree GUIs have to be intuitive. The fact that the string is not obvious in Chinese is not my

[Bug 603746] Re: the word 加入 in grou p managment should be 新增

2010-08-07 Thread Cheng-Chia Tseng
We don't have to bother whether 加入 is different to 新增 or not here. If fukid have difficulty accepting 加入 here, please contact me directly by mail. In my opinion, the window title here says group settings doesn't convey that this is a list of groups, so users don't know whether he/she is going to

[Bug 603746] Re: the word 加入 in grou p managment should be 新增

2010-08-07 Thread Cheng-Chia Tseng
I think that adding a new title with bold style says Groups: (or some descriptive words better you think of) upon the list of groups to indicate what the list might be better. And so as User(s): should be. -- the word 加入 in group managment should be 新增 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/603746 You

[Bug 603746] Re: the word 加入 in grou p managment should be 新增

2010-08-06 Thread Milan Bouchet-Valat
In English, we use Add/Delete as in many other places of the desktop. I don't think this needs to be changed, as it's perfectly clear. If Chinese suffers from ambiguity here, feel free to use another word that's better suited to group creation - and if you say the word is correct, changing English

[Bug 603746] Re: the word 加入 in grou p managment should be 新增

2010-07-11 Thread Aron Xu
Translators can change the translations that is visible to end-users. Besides, I am opening a task for gnome-system-tools which contains the users-admin script. ** Also affects: gnome-system-tools (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Changed in: ubuntu-translations