This is crazy, this bug has 45 people that take time to go to LP and click
affects-me-too,
it has a dozen of duplicates,
it is one of most reported bug I seen, and yet it is just Wishlist priority?!
Ubuntu fails to provide most basic functionality expected from a desktop
since windows 3.11...
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+ ---
+ Install klipper or glipper
+
+
+
This bug is an Epic Fail, because it's 2009 and still we do not *fully*
support trivial things like copy/paste.
Fortunately this works well
That's so true...
I think a bug should be raised of priority when it start to flood the bug
tracker database with tons of duplicates complains.
Actually, my nightmare are about me, learning C+ at a suffisent level to
submit a patch. IMO, that should also be considered as a good reason to
** Description changed:
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Install klipper, glipper, or parcellite
-
- This bug is an Epic Fail, because it's 2009 and still we do not *fully*
- support trivial things like copy/paste.
-
- Fortunately
** Description changed:
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+ *** WORKAROUND ***
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- This -could- be the underlying cause of bug #7986.
- This is a general issue that seems to be independant of any
WISHLIST - it turns out this is not a problem, even a bug marked just
Wishlist will be worked on in case as this one (lots of duplicates and
reporters etc).
According to guys at IRC ##ubuntu-bugs @ irc.freenet.org
Btw, and despite epic fail being removed from description, ubuntu devels also
say
Imho this should be as one of one hundred paper cuts.
If not, then please comment why not, thanks
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The addition or removal of a package is not a paper cut. Replace F-Spot with
Solang is not a paper cut, neither is Install simple-ccsm by default.
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PaperCut ; Sorry my bad
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I'm not sure why this doesn't count as a papercut.
trivially fixable usability bug that the average user would encounter
in default installation of Ubuntu or Kubuntu Desktop Edition
Isn't it trivially fixable by installing one of the workarounds by
default?
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On 09.02.2010 22:41, Endolith wrote:
I'm not sure why this doesn't count as a papercut.
trivially fixable usability bug that the average user would encounter
in default installation of Ubuntu or Kubuntu Desktop Edition
Isn't it trivially fixable by installing one of the workarounds by
Sadly chromium/Google chrome also appear to have this bug...
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=32291
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Good news guys!
This guy from Red Hat, called Martin Stránský, just fixed this bug in
upstream Firefox! The mozilla devs merged the patch into the
mozilla1.9.3 branch (current hg master) which means that it will
probably go out in Firefox 3.7
Firefox 3.7 won't be ready in time for Lucid though
Tracking Upstream xorg request
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Remote watch: None = freedesktop.org Bugzilla #25220
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I'm not a programmer, so how was this fixed in firefox? What clipboard
manager was it integrated with? Does that limit it to a certain DE then
since this wasn't fixed in Xorg? Did they remove anything like the
selection clipboard that uses the middle mouse button?
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** Description changed:
This bug is an Epic Fail, because it's 2009 and still we do not *fully*
support trivial things like copy/paste.
Fortunately this works well in KDE.
This -could- be the underlying cause of bug #7986.
This is a general issue that seems to be independant of
pyrates : Xulrunner (Firefox) only fixed their clipboard code to comply
with the specification, which is mentionned in the bug description. That
only means that Firefox and other applications that rely on xulrunner
(thunderbird, sunbird) will have clipboard working correctly, while
other
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Status: New
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Thank you for bringing this bug to our attention. However, a paper cut
should be a small usability issue that affects many people and is quick
and easy to fix. So this bug can't be addressed as part of this project.
For further information about papercuts criteria, please read
It can easily be fixed by installing a clipboard manager by default
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@Endolith:
Adding a new package to the default install is not a papercut task.
Kindly bring up the discussion for adding the package by default , in the
desktop mailing list.
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Patrick Roberts wrote:
That's useless. It needs to be fixed in X, so it will
work in every application and in every desktop
environment.
Question: Is there a bug registered on the X bug tracker? If so, could
we add it as an upstream bug report?
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I dont think so. So I submitted a bug report:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25220
Anyone want to add to it, feel free.
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Two weeks ago a friend of mine was using the GIMP to choose a nice
color. When he found a color he liked, he copied the hexcode of the
color, closed the GIMP and wanted to paste the color in KompoZer. As you
can guess this was impossible. It happened a few times to him and he
really didn't know
The hyperbole this issue creates is fascinating.
First, I agree that the clipboard being so forgetful after an app closes is
an issue.
But some people here make it sound like it's comparable to critical security
issues, or major features missing.
It's not of the highest priority because there
Is there some good reason why Parcellite (or some other tool) isn't just
included by default to work around this?
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Well, it looks like some nice developer has volunteered his time to the
Mozilla suite to fix this bug (iirc), and progress is being made to fix
this for Firefox.
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=311340
Also, please, less whining, and more contributing.
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I wish this would get fixed in the Xorg layer instead. Fixing it on a
per application basis takes more time then it should need to. And
fixing it at the DE layer is a mere bandaid solution, meaning when it
finally is fixed in the Xorg layer, the fix in the DE layer won't
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Olaf wrote 49 minutes ago:
I really believe most people prefer speed and hardware support
and reducing reggressions as high priority issues.
The most important is to have an operating system you can trust, an
operating system which is reliable, an operating system that doesn't
forget something
Olaf wrote 2 hours ago:
It's not of the highest priority because there really are much higher
priorities.
This problem have been reported more than 5 years ago. I think that this
improvement should have been priorised over many other new features that are
less important.
Yes it's not a
Olaf wrote 2 hours ago:
It's not of the highest priority because there really are much higher
priorities.
That's the point of discussion.
You think some new weird feature is a high prio.
I think (as most of distributors do) usability is the highest prio ever.
2009/11/20, FMaz fmaz...@gmail.com:
This has been reported to Mozilla a while ago but i do not have bug
handy, When i get to my mozilla bug email folder i will see if it is
there, but you can find it by searching Mozilla bugzilla. I will try to
find it but may have better luck if someone else did as well since i can
not be here a
DieterVDW : While I understand your frustration (that we all share, I
think), your comment here isn't helping much as bug reports should be
used to work on technical aspects of bugs, not to discuss. Upstream bugs
are listed in the bug description (including the mozilla/xulrunner one
which
The bug numbers for upstream are listed in the description of this bug.
Not sure why there aren't bug tasks, but maybe it was so people aren't
flooded for the stuff they don't want to follow. You can see the status
of the upstream bugs on the right side of the bug in the section Remote
Bug
I'm a very technical guy, but I have work to do and not much time to do it in.
I don't want to lose time googling on how to get the copy-paste working.
Most users don't even start googling.
If you need to google to get it working, it doesn't work!
Please fix this. And I mean: I install Ubuntu and
I haven't read all the comments here, but if this were my bug, I would
solve it by just shipping a clipboard manager with the default install
(Fedora does this I imagine and I know the KDE install comes with
klipper by default). The behavior as-is is NOTABUG (using bugzilla
notation here, not
@mac_v
To maintain a respectful atmosphere, please follow the code of conduct -
http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/ . Bug reporters and commenters are
also humans, so please bear this in mind. :)
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Olaf wrote 21 hours ago:
Though - come on - it shouldn't take too many losses to remember this
behaviour.
How does a normal user know why the contents of his clipboard are lost?
How does this user know he has to keep the source open? We know why this
happens, but people on Launchpad aren't the
Well said Patrick. So now it comes down to this:
Fix it. We as end users expect this to be working the way windows and
OS X have implemented it. If it's not gonna be fixed to that
specification, then I won't even think of using it. There's a reason
why software companies can sell software and
@pyrates :
For goodness sake! This is a bug report! Kindly do not spam this bug report
with your rants !
Simply constantly stating If it's not gonna be fixed to that specification,
then I won't even think of using it.
Is not scarring anyone and i really dont understand why you think that
Patrick,
while I also would like to see this big fixed I have to point out that your
rant is wrong on all counts.
Software in general has bugs that sometimes goes back years without getting
fixed. Proprietary software has the very same problem. To sell updates it
needs new features. So updates
The discussions on this bug report are becoming irrevelant and turning into
personal attacks.
This bug report has the relevant information, just needs some attention from
developers . There is no need to add a comment here which does not provide
*useful* information to fix this bug.
To
Some day its gonna be fixed? It's been 16 years. I can tell you what
prevents me from using Linux is bugs exactly like this where the
developer thinks its fine but 99% of users do not think it's fine. it's
a bug. Fix it already. I don't care if its gonna take a lot of work,
I'd like it fixed.
Added as MASTER bug for easy tracking. This bug should be against
clipboard as i recall.
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On 08/31/2009 04:56 AM, pyrates wrote:
Some day its gonna be fixed? It's been 16 years. I can tell you what
prevents me from using Linux is bugs exactly like this where the
developer thinks its fine but 99% of users do not think it's fine. it's
a bug. Fix it already. I don't care if its
Olaf wrote 6 hours ago:
I also find this bug annoying - but it is not of the highest priority IMHO -
especially as a workaround has been available for years: glipper/klipper.
I've said this many times: Glipper is not a solution and not even a good
workaround. Glipper is unstable, 1 in 10 times
Everyone seems to say that osx behaves correctly, but osx uses Xorg right ?
Look at this page [http://www.x.org/wiki/XDarwin_Clipboard]
Couldn't it be an solution over there ?
Let me explain my idea of how it could work :
a) 100K web page (with images) gets copied in firefox
b) the clipboard
Howdy,
I also find this bug annoying - but it is not of the highest priority
IMHO - especially as a workaround has been available for years:
glipper/klipper.
I've said this many times: Glipper is not a solution and not even a good
workaround. Glipper is unstable, 1 in 10 times when starting
Apologies. The message above was not meant to go to the bug.
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I say it should be fixed in the X.org layer. Otherwise you have DE's
reinventing the wheel here when they shouldn't have to. Here is how it
should be working:
1. Copy or cut something into the clipboard.
2. It copies directly into ram without needing the original app open after
it's done.
3.
Oh yeah and I almost forgot, remove the selection copy method. If an
individual app wants to do it fine, but don't make it system wide by
default. This way those who use terminal apps who want selection can
still keep it. Then it doesn't interfere with any other app.
Putty on windows works
pyrates : This is a bug report, ideas are counterproductive here. It is
more appropriate to brainstorm on http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com which was
created for that purpose. As repeated before, there is already a
specification for clipboard which is good for old and new clipboard
methods, the bug is
:01:20 -
From: Michael Nagel ubu...@nailor.devzero.de
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To: e...@panix.com
Subject: [Bug 11334] Re: Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed
before the paste
ericf: if you do not close the source of the of the copy before pasting
ericf : Bug reports are used to fix bugs, therefore ordinary users can
only help by providing informations to developers so they can fix these
bugs. Discussions on bug reports make things more difficult for
developers as it makes important informations hard to find. For that
reason, launchpad
pyrates wrote on 2009-08-29:
The design of the clipboard isn't...
...it is broken and not working.
I couldn't agree more!
Przemysław Kulczycki wrote on 2009-08-29:
@pyrates
If it isn't rocket science for you, why don't you write a patch to fix it?
Could people please STOP posting such
The design of the clipboard isn't rocket science here. Implement it
according to the way Windows does it. If an application wants to use
the selection method of copy and pasting, then it takes over the ctrl+c
ctrl+x ctrl+v shortcuts since it's most likely a terminal application.
But most other
ericf: if you do not close the source of the of the copy before pasting -- and
nevertheless experience problems -- your problem is different from the bug
discussed here and should be processed separately.
i mark it as no longer being a duplicate of this bug.
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@pyrates
If it isn't rocket science for you, why don't you write a patch to fix it?
Most Ubuntu developers aren't paid for their work, they do it voluntarily.
And the number of Ubuntu devs isn't infinite.
Comments such as yours won't help fixing this bug.
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Here's a workaround for firefox:
sudo apt-get install xclip
Edit /usr/lib/firefox-3.5.2/firefox.sh (or equivalent)
Put this line after #!/bin/sh :
python /home/$USER/clipwrap.py
# Save this (for example) to /home/$USER/clipwrap.py
#Copy from the clipboard:
import os
import time
s = ''
Oh umm another limitation is that it will only copy text, not html
metadata in the clipboard. Same as ClipMan I think.
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People on xdg mailing list were discussing about this back in '03. the
thread is rather long... I always said it was a misconception in Xwin...
http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xdg/2003-August/000607.html
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I've merged some other bugs about the same problem into this one as
duplicates, but I'm worried about it not copying the packages that are
affected or upstream bugs. Do I need to manually move all those things
to this bug, too?
This is something that needs to be implemented in each individual
Previous discussions:
http://elliotth.blogspot.com/2008/08/desktop-linux-suckage-clipboard.html
http://linuxhaters.blogspot.com/2008/05/i-hate-copy-and-paste.html
http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/3118/
http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/16966/
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- This bug is an Epic Fail, because it's 2009 and still we do not *fully*
support trivial things like copy/paste.
+ This bug is an Epic Fail, because it's 2009 and still we do not *fully*
+ support trivial things like copy/paste.
Fortunately this works well in
** Description changed:
This bug is an Epic Fail, because it's 2009 and still we do not *fully*
support trivial things like copy/paste.
Fortunately this works well in KDE.
This -could- be the underlying cause of bug #7986.
This is a general issue that seems to be independant of
After I reported a copy and paste related bug [Bug 417758] i was notified
that it was a duplicate of Bug 11334.
I read the report and thread for Bug 11334 and notified the person who
contacted me that my problem was NOT the same as one reported in 11334.
to reiterate and clarify:
Either
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Remember The clipboard contains a huge object, do you want to leave it?
message box when MS Office is closed?
Why not to do the same?!
If clipping text is not that big, then copy to system buffer w/o
confirmation. If it's quite big (10/100/1000 Mb) - then ask.
The other workaround is to insert
Actually the way windows and OS X does it is if its text, its copied to
the clipboard. If it's something larger like part of a graphic like
photoshop does, they monitor the source. If the source is closed, that
question pops up asking if the user wants to keep it in the clipboard.
If they click
I know, this sucks. Normally on Windows platform source could be copied
every though it's already closed. So when I'm on Linux, I have to be
extra aware and extra careful by leaving the window of the copied source
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I'm glad I'm not the only this has effected. Why is this taking so long
to fix? Could it be because traditional linux users don't want to lose
the clipboard integration that they put into the terminal emulator? I'd
bet so. This is unacceptable. Here's a write up of a frustrated linux
user who
I already read it a few months ago, but it's a great article. That guy
knows what he's talking about and I couldn't agree more.
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I once read an article, why not to use klipper, I was using it. Now I
just got used to not close the program. What about:
http://svenfoo.geekheim.de/2005/06/18/why-klipper-is-bad/
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i felt we had established that just do not close the program is not an
acceptable solution!
gimp enthusiasts hate klipper because it leeches everything it can get.
if they were for a pragmatic solution they would not offer that much
date but just an internal pointer. or klipper simply
@David Siegel, I don't think that the amount of discussion should be a
factor on whether this is a papercut or not, nor do I believe that there
are divergent opinions on this bug - everyone is pretty much saying
the same thing - copy/paste in linux is laughably broken and has been
for many years.
This not only happens to me with the text (now i use parcellite). It
even happens by copying files between nautilus tabs!
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1. Ubuntu: Open Firefox. Copy the URL. Close Firefox. Open OOWriter : Can't
paste url
Windows : Open Firefox. Copy the URL. Close Firefox. Open OOWriter : Url
pasted !
2. Open Firefox under Windows. Copy the URL. Close Firefox. Open OOWriter in a
virtual machine(Sun Virtual Box) (UBUNTU9.4)
Could anyone explain me something : X does not remember the content of the
selection, only the source. But why can't command line software like xsel or
xclip output the content of the CLIPBOARD selection if it is binary ? see this :
a) select some text (clipboard for example), then CTRL-C :
xsel
Not really a papercut in my opinion, that's a design issue and not
something that will be tweaking in a day
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As a workaround, http://parcellite.sourceforge.net/ seems to be solving
this just fine somehow, while even giving the expanded functionality of
being able to go in history of clipboard (so you can ctrl+c, ctrl+c,
ctrl+v, ctrl+v) while being very lightweight (4.7mb for me atm with
indicator-applet
^ pardon the bad sentence there.
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Parcellite doesn't support images, sounds, some scene copied from a
videofile, et cetera. It only supports text. Last time I tried
Parcellite it was very unstable. We don't need half baked workarounds.
We don't want to install an application for every desktop environment
(Glipper or Parcellite for
The amount of discussion and divergent opinions expressed on this bug
help show that this bug is well beyond the complexity of a paper cut.
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I cannot reproduce this bug in 9.04. Can someone else reproduce that in
Jaunty, and if so, what are the steps?
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I'm not going to explain how to reproduce this bug again. I've done this
before for about 452 times. How many times do I have to explain how to
reproduce this bug? I can't imagine people keep on asking how to
reproduce this bug. Are people really that dumb? This bug is the easiest
bug ever to
By the way: Why was LimCores tag deleted? He was completely right. I
have to agree with him. Still having such broken copy and paste
functionality after all those years while thousands of people keep on
losing data IS an epic fail. This bugs importance has to be raised to
the highest possible
Actually I think Patrick is completely right. This is an Epic fail. I'm
now used to it (nearly 20 years of X practising), but newcomers will
laugh and flee!
But IMHO I think the issue is with the way X selection works. Either
gnome / put_your_wm_here drops Xsel and uses its own, dropping
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Status: New
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+ This bug is an Epic Fail, because it's 2009 and still we do not *fully*
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+
+ Fortunately this works well in KDE.
+
+
This -could- be the underlying cause of bug #7986.
This is a general issue that seems to be independant
This bug is an Epic Fail, because it's 2009 and still we do not *fully*
support trivial things like copy/paste.
I couldn't agree more. I always say: How can we ever solve bug number
one if Ubuntu (or more general Linux) can't even remember an image I
placed on the clipboard two seconds ago?
I had a conversation with Philipp Kern recently and he basically shares
our opinion. To get it in the default release we should:
- collect all known/possible regressions (like cp of binary data, some magic
gimp seems to do, ...)
- find someone from the official canonical team to support this
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I agree. but this is more of a workaround. the copy paste thing should just
work! maybe include it in the next dist. karmic may be promising :P
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@Michael Nagel:
I've tried Glipper, Parcellite and Desktop Data Manager. In my opinion Glipper
and Percellite just don't work. Both of them only support text, I've had
problems with these applications not starting when booting the system, after
installing these applications the copy / paste
Yesterday my father wanted to log on to a website. He didn't know the
password anymore, so he looked up this password in Evolution, copied the
password, closed Evolution and tried to paste the password in Firefox.
The paste function was greyed out and my father thought he had clicked
on the wrong
@comment 6:
in true unix history of having one tool to do one thing right i do not
necessarily think it is a workaround to have a program dedicated to managing
the clipboard.
however i think solid copypaste is a feature everyone can expect to
work out of the box. and because i think it is
I think the problem is that the copy buffer if you want to call it
like that is saved somewhere in the current program memory. When the
program is closed the buffer is erased so there is no source to copy
it from.
A possible fix would be allocating some memory for copy. But than again
this might
YAC - Yet Another Confirmation
... and yes, this bug is rather annoying one.
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Can this please be fixed?
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