see this also
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/820333
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This still fails on Natty 64 bits. I have defined:
$ cat /etc/default/locale
LANG=es_ES.UTF-8
LC_ALL=
LC_MESSAGES=POSIX
LC_COLLATE=C
But when I enter in Gnome:
$ locale
LANG=es_ES.UTF-8
LANGUAGE=es_ES:en
LC_CTYPE=es_ES.UTF-8
LC_NUMERIC=es_ES.UTF-8
LC_TIME=es_ES.UTF-8
LC_COLLATE=C
Hi Simon,
/etc/default/locale contains system wide settings that basically affect
the startup and the login screen. Once logged in, your personal language
settings override the system wide ditto.
Please select English as your user language, either from the language
chooser at the bottom of the
Thanks again for your suggestions, Gunnar. I copied your commands
directly from here to the terminal, so it is not a typo.
Strangely, setting env LANG with firefox or thunderbird actually worked
on the last three Ubuntu versions, even though it may be incorrect to
run it this way. I was able to
Strange. Firefox should be started in English if you set LC_MESSAGES as
I suggested. Typo, maybe? ;-)
gedit is another thing. Unlike Firefox gedit recognizes the LANGUAGE
env. variable, which overrides both LANG and LC_MESSAGES, so to make
gedit be started in English you would need:
env
Gunnar, thank you for your quick reply. Unfortunately, this didn't make
a difference. Firefox still comes up in Chinese. This is on a fresh
Natty install, by the way (had to reinstall since my last post for a
different reason).
Suppose that means the bug is not fixed then?
Any other suggestions?
It makes a difference to me.
Since you said an English instance of Firefox, maybe I should point
out that you can't have a Chinese and an English FF instance
simultaneously. In other words, Firefox must not be running when you
execute the command I suggested.
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Yes, of course. Firefox wasn't running when I executed the env
LC_MESSAGES and env LANG commands. I also tried running the command with
other programmes, such as gedit, but always got the same result:
contrary to my expectation, the programme would not open up in the
language specified, but in the
I am not sure if this is related, but I am experiencing problems with
GDM overriding language selections I apply on a per-programme basis via
the env variable.
Normally, when I select Chinese (China) at the login screen, I can still
run programmes in English by prepending an env argument, e.g.
A screenshot demonstrating the conflict between gdm and env.
I selected Chinese (China) at the login screen to run a Chinese
language session of Ubuntu. In this Chinese Ubuntu session I am trying
to run an English instance of Firefox by prepending env
LANG=en_US.UTF-8. Note how Firefox comes up
@dreamon
You are probably right when assuming that your observations are related to the
fixes of this bug.
If your regional formats setting (second tab in Language Support) is
something else but Chinese (China), your choosing Chinese (China) as
the display language makes gdm set the LC_MESSAGES
@Kevin
Yes, I remember that you were confused by system vs. user specific level.
Language Support Help, which you can reach by clicking the Help button at the
bottom left of the Language Support window, will hopefully contribute to reduce
similar confusion henceforth. Also, at the UDS in
@Kentaro
To have menus and messages displayed in English, just drag English to the top
of the combobox list on the Language tab of Language Support.
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@Gunnar,
I guess there are very few users (not developers) know two level
language set up designs, system wide on language support and user
specific on the login screen. It actually has confused me for a while
until I read your clear explanation:
@Gunnar, (#107)
Thank you for your help. I tested it and it seems to be working at this
moment.
I was in doubt that selecting English of Language menu affects all locale
settings such as LC_TIME or LC_NUMERIC.
Let me see what happens with my settings. Now I have export LANG=ja_JP.UTF-8;
export
The patch #36 (36_language_environment_settings.patch) damaged my
desktop environment by setting LANGUAGES.
I'm Japanese and my LANG is ja_JP.UTF-8, but because of some reasons
my LC_MESSAGES is set to C by .gnomerc and .zshenv to display non-
translated messages/texts. This worked very well for
Let me correct my previous comment:
s/LANGUAGES/LANGUAGE/g
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Hi Gunnar, Thanks for your clear explanation about two level setting of
display language. Issue closed
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You're welcome, Kevin. Let me thank you for your effort with the
detailed questions. They helped me improve the new Language Support Help
document.
Also, I'm glad that it wasn't yet another bug. ;-)
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Hi again, Kevin.
Two things you need to be aware about:
1. The display language can be set on two levels: system wide,
which determines what's shown on the login screen, and user specific.
It's only the user language that can be set from the login screen.
2. The principal tool for setting
Hi Gunnar,
let me reproduce it in details. Hope you don't mind to refer to I
captured the screen shots in sequence attached, because I am not sure if
I can explain it in details in English.
Environment
1. Fresh Unity Beta 1 installation with all updates on April 7th
2. Language selected in OOBE
re-tested GDM in Natty, and found the issues still remain.
languages pre-installed: English, Traditional Chinese, Simplified Chinese
GDM: 2.32.0-0ubuntu14
Reproduce steps
A. issue at GDM screen.
1. logout
2. select English on the bottom panel
3. Ideally, 密碼 should change to password, but it
Kevin,
On 2011-04-05 11:02, Kevin Huang wrote:
A. issue at GDM screen.
1. logout
2. select English on the bottom panel
3. Ideally, 密碼 should change to password, but it remains no
change.
That is as it should be. The language chooser on the bottom panel sets
the user language, while it's the
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Fixes of this bug for Lucid and Maverick are now available in official
backports packages. To make Synaptic check for backports updates you can
do:
o System - Administration - Update Manager - Settings...
o Select the Updates tab and check the Unsupported updates option.
More about Ubuntu
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Ok Martin, no problem. You weren't very keen on the SRU idea in December
either, but you mentioned backports as a possibly passable option. To
me, the branches that this bug report resulted in are principally fixes
of annoying, buggy behavior. However, I'm sure there are good reasons
for the
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Hi all,
I have filed the bug 719815, where I request that the fixes of this bug
be backported to Lucid and Maverick.
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
Once test builds have been made, please feel free to help process the
request by testing the packages and posting feedback and
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** Description changed:
+ SRU nomination addition
+ I'm about to nominate Lucid and Maverick fixes of this bug for stable release
updates (SRUs), which is the reason for this addition to the bug description.
+
+ Many (most?) new Ubuntu users, who need more than one locale to set
+ their
This introduces quite a substantial behaviour change, including the
additional setting of $LC_MESSAGES (which now causes a lot of confusion
when using ssh), has very intrusive patches, and this isn't a data loss
or security bug, thus I am afraid it doesn't qualify for an SRU.
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@trespasser (comment #87)
Personally I would like to see a GUI where users can seemlessly set their
locale preferences without knowing what a locale is, so I find your suggestion
interesting. However, it's beyond the scope of this bug report. These are two
places that may be more suitable to
Hi all,
As you may have seen, fixes to this bug report were released in Natty on
December 14, and yesterday Martin Pitt approved the last 'follow-up
fix'.
The issues were introduced in Lucid (Ubuntu 10.04), so I have prepared
gdm and language-selector packages for Lucid and Maverick with similar
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natty) build fine again.
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Hello Gunnar,
Gunnar Hjalmarsson [2010-12-09 1:49 -]:
There's another aspect to this: The upstream gdm Xsession script
already sets $LANG. With the changes that you have in mind, it needs
to stop doing that; with separate .d directory scripts, you can only
additionally set $LC_*, but
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This bug was fixed in the package language-selector - 0.8
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language-selector (0.8) natty; urgency=low
* Set LC_MESSAGES for applications that don't recognize LANGUAGE
(LP: #553162).
* GDM related fixes (LP: #553162):
- Update dmrc when LANGUAGE and LC_MESSAGES are set,
This bug was fixed in the package gdm - 2.32.0-0ubuntu2
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[ Martin Pitt ]
* 06_run_xsession.d.patch: Don't trip over directories and other non-files
in Xsession.d/. (LP: #654578)
[ Gunnar Hjalmarsson ]
*
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It gives me SO much headache. I understand what I propose is a separate
approach but can someone please specify what drawbacks lie behind
creating a language-creator instead of language-selector? There are
only 10 types of users: those finding default language settings for
their country convenient
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Hi Martin,
Thanks for your comments! Before replying to some of them, let me say
that I finally realized that the .d/ sub-scripts solution I suggested
previously was too obfuscated. Whatever advantages I saw, they could not
justify the resulting obfuscation. All code in a project like this has
to
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@Martin
I have made an attempt to juggle all the files, as you put it the other day
in #ubuntu-desktop, and I believe it's now almost as it ought to be.
* Patched the changes to Xsession.in, gdm-session-settings.c and
gdm-session-settings.h. Sub-scripts belonging to the
language-selector
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Hello Gunnar,
I see a ton of new MPs and replies here, so I'll reply/catch up with
them one by one. So some of my replies here might already be obsolete
now.
Gunnar Hjalmarsson [2010-11-30 12:12 -]:
and second, it hasn't been tested with other login managers and might
just break stuff
Gunnar Hjalmarsson [2010-12-02 7:24 -]:
Yeah, but personally I believe there is still a need for _one_ responsible
team leader.
For the record: Indeed l-s currently doesn't have a lead developer,
but we'll get one soon.
Right now it's on collaborative maintenance mode. (There are some
Hello Gunnar,
Gunnar Hjalmarsson [2010-12-07 8:42 -]:
* Patched the changes to Xsession.in, gdm-session-settings.c and
gdm-session-settings.h. Sub-scripts belonging to the
language-selector package dropped - yes, I changed my mind. ;-)
Oh, great :)
Natty problem:
When I uploaded
Unsubscribing sponsors, for the record. I think the discussion here has
become way too complex, this will be handled between Gunnar and me now.
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Would someone be able to comment if communication with upstream is still
active please?
@Martin, what do you consider to be the next step?
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On 2010-12-03 12:12, Dave Walker wrote:
Would someone be able to comment if communication with upstream is
still active please?
Communication with upstream (GNOME) is applicable for two reasons.
Previously I suggested some changes to /etc/gdm/Xsession, and tried to 'sell'
those
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Hello Arne,
Thanks a bunch for your valuable comments.
On 2010-11-30 17:43, Arne Goetje wrote:
The code in language-selector is a bit hackish and unprofessional, since
Iʼm not an experience programmer or python coder ...
Maybe that's the reason why I'm fairly comfortable with the code. ;-)
For the record, below please find Martin Pitts comments on a superseded
(and deleted) merge proposal, followed by my reply.
Martin Pitt wrote on 2010-11-24:
Hello Gunnar,
many thanks for working on this! Some comments:
- in the
Martin,
I have updated the patches and merge proposals, and personally I feel
that they have been sufficiently penetrated to be committable.
Consequently I ask you to please complete your sponsoring of this stage
of the project, so the usefulness can be tested more widely.
I don't know if you
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Hi Gunnar,
On 12/02/2010 05:36 AM, Gunnar Hjalmarsson wrote:
On 2010-11-30 17:43, Arne Goetje wrote:
The code in language-selector is a bit hackish and unprofessional, since
Iʼm not an experience programmer or python coder ...
Maybe that's the reason why I'm fairly comfortable with the
Hi again,
On 2010-12-02 03:10, Arne Goetje wrote:
On 12/02/2010 05:36 AM, Gunnar Hjalmarsson wrote:
I can see that LANG and LANGUAGE have been written to
/etc/default/locale and /etc/environment also for KDE users. I'm
suggesting that also LC_MESSAGES is written to those files, and so
far I
Hi Martin,
Thanks for your latest comments. This reply is long, but I sum up my
POV at the end.
On 2010-11-29 16:21, Martin Pitt wrote:
... I think we should still patch the Xsession script in the
Ubuntu gdm package instead of this profile.d hacking; first, it would
be a bit confusing for
Hi all,
a few comments for clarification:
On 11/30/2010 08:12 PM, Gunnar Hjalmarsson wrote:
Hmm.. If I recall it correctly, we agreed a few weeks ago to
conceptually convert GDM's locale selector to a pure language picker, in
order to make it play well with the language tab in
Martin,
During our talk in #ubuntu-desktop last friday, you mentioned the
possibility to drop ~/.profile for storing the user language environment
and use /var/cache/gdm/$USER/dmrc instead. I think that may be a
practicable approach with the advantage that there is a safe method in
place for
... and here is the GDM diff
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Hello Gunnar,
Gunnar Hjalmarsson [2010-11-24 17:20 -]:
Please note that the gdm patch, i.e. the Xsession code changes, is not
part of my suggestion any longer. [...] As you know, I tried to
'sell' the idea upstream, but wasn't very successful...
Right, but I think we should still patch
Gunnar Hjalmarsson [2010-11-29 13:52 -]:
During our talk in #ubuntu-desktop last friday, you mentioned the
possibility to drop ~/.profile for storing the user language environment
and use /var/cache/gdm/$USER/dmrc instead.
Note that this was just a strawman idea, I haven't looked into this
Gunnar Hjalmarsson [2010-11-29 13:53 -]:
... and here is the GDM diff
This looks nicely generic. Would upstream consider taking this?
Thanks,
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Gunnar,
finally I have some time to get back to this. I looked at your recent
gdm patch, and have some questions:
- in language_update(), why do we need the en special case?
- in the second part of language_update(), why would $GDM_LANG not be a
valid locale? this does some rather expensive
Hi Martin,
Thanks for your comments and questions, both here and on the merge
proposal!
On 2010-11-24 10:40, Martin Pitt wrote:
I looked at your recent gdm patch,
Please note that the gdm patch, i.e. the Xsession code changes, is not
part of my suggestion any longer. The reason why I still
Minor change in LanguageSelector/LocaleInfo.py: ~/.dmrc may be read in
connection with scanning for the user LANGUAGE setting, not the user
LANG setting.
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On 2010-11-10 03:10, trespasser wrote:
I agree this is a duplicate to the certain point but (please, correct
me if I am wrong or missed something in discussion on bug 553162)
your patch makes sure $LANG, $LANGUAGE and
Because of some reluctance upstream (GNOME) to make the suggested
changes to GDM, I figured out a reasonably sensible way to make all the
code changes in the Ubuntu specific language-selector package.
https://code.launchpad.net/~gunnarhj/language-selector/fix-553162
If /etc/gdm/Xsession isn't
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Martin,
On 2010-10-15 23:29, Gunnar Hjalmarsson wrote:
On 2010-10-13 18:49, Martin Pitt wrote:
So, after this discussion I'm not opposed to turning gdm into a pure
language selector, and ask users to use language-selector (ugh, how
confusing :) ) to setup the full locale. But if we do that,
** Bug watch added: GNOME Bug Tracker #633295
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=633295
** Also affects: gdm via
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=633295
Importance: Unknown
Status: Unknown
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Set $LANGUAGE if the user picks a different locale in gdm, so that
Hello Gunnar,
just so you know that I'm not ignoring you: UDS is happening this
week, and before I had to wrap up my OEM term. Next week is Plumber's,
but after that I promise I'll spend some time on this. So, sorry for
the delay here.
Thanks!
Martin
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Martin Pitt|
** Changed in: gdm
Status: Unknown = New
** Changed in: gdm
Importance: Unknown = High
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Set $LANGUAGE if the user picks a different locale in gdm, so that
language-selector and gdm stop disagreeing
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/553162
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Hi Martin,
Thanks for saying that, but it's absolutely no problem. I'm a web
scripting hobbyist (Perl/CGI) who am busy learning new stuff. The
impressing organisation, the tools, the insight that shell scripting
involves more than 'cp' and 'mv'... So please see my posts and code
tweaking in the
Bugfix (of this bugfix...) and some more code tweaking
** Patch removed: gdm_partial-fix-553162.debdiff
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-translations/+bug/553162/+attachment/1711379/+files/gdm_partial-fix-553162.debdiff
** Patch added: gdm_partial-fix-553162.debdiff
LC_MESSAGES also set system-wide, i.e. in /etc/default/locale and
/etc/environment
** Patch removed: language-selector_suppl-fix-553162.debdiff
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm/+bug/553162/+attachment/1699263/+files/language-selector_suppl-fix-553162.debdiff
** Patch removed:
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