Re: Hijri calendar

Michael Catanzaro wrote: ... >> There is an addon for this: >> https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/240/persian-calendar/ > > That's a cool extension. But ideally, the built-in calendar would > display in an appropriate format for the current locale. I bet the > developers

Re: New GNOME goal: shortcuts windows

I've just updated the guidelines for this goal: please check them out if your app has a shortcuts window. There might be one or two small changes that need to be made. Thanks, Allan On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 5:08 PM, Allan Day <a...@gnome.org> wrote: > Hi all, > > GTK+ now has th

Re: Status Query: file-roller

Ikey Doherty wrote: ... > If there are some mockups we can work from, it's something we can > put some time into on our end :) Don't wanna see something we use > so much go to waste. It might be better to obsolete File Roller altogether and have archives automatically

Re: GNOME Music needs you!

Felipe Borges wrote: ... > Music is one of those core applications that we all love. It follows a > design-oriented approach, and it's written on Python. > > Music has been a little abandoned since the last release, and it still > lacks some important features. Therefore,

Re: Release Notes Time!

Magdalen Berns m.be...@thismagpie.com wrote: You know what to do. Lies! Should I write something about java-atk-wrapper or is it just the core module maintainers you're wanting to hear from about this? :D You had to prove me wrong, didn't you?! Anyone can add to the wiki page. Just be sure

Re: Release Notes Time!

I know that you have more to tell me about. Don't be shy! Allan On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 5:20 PM, Allan Day a...@gnome.org wrote: Yes, it's that time already: 3.18 is starting to loom, and we need to collect information on the great work that everyone has done over the last 6 months

Release Notes Time!

Yes, it's that time already: 3.18 is starting to loom, and we need to collect information on the great work that everyone has done over the last 6 months. If you've worked on anything user (or developer) facing, we need to hear about it. Don't worry about whether the change is too small to

Reminder: Board of Directors candidacy period ends on 18th May

Hi all, In case you missed it, the candidacy period for the Board of Directors elections ends on Monday 18th May. This is the final date on which you can announce your intention to run for the board. Full details can be found in Andrea's original announcement:

Re: GNOME HIG: Feedback Wanted

Alexandre Franke alexandre.fra...@gmail.com wrote: ... https://developer.gnome.org/hig/stable/writing-style.html.en has nothing on error messages. Can we have guidelines on what is preferred between Cannot…, Could not…, Failed to…, etc. for a bit more consistency? Sure thing - can you file a

Re: Proposal to make GnomeLove official and move it to developer.gnome.org

Carlos Soriano Sanchez csori...@redhat.com wrote: ... I understand what you mean with removing community maintained, but can be misleading for others. Let me explain: developer.gnome.org is still maintained by the community, but they go through a review process, and gives control to the

Re: Proposal to make GnomeLove official and move it to developer.gnome.org

Carlos Soriano Sanchez csori...@redhat.com wrote: ... So after some work in GnomeLove and discussions in the gnome-love list, I would like to make this proposal. Read more here https://wiki.gnome.org/CarlosSoriano/GnomeLoveMoveTask So I would want to have feedback on this idea over this

Re: Proposal to make GnomeLove official and move it to developer.gnome.org

, Carlos Soriano Sanchez csori...@redhat.com wrote: So if we continue with the wiki, most of the points I pointed before continue to be a problem... New jhbuild/git/whatever tutorials will came up... I'm not sure why this is an issue... it is perfectly acceptable for you to manage the

Re: Proposal to make GnomeLove official and move it to developer.gnome.org

Magdalen Berns m.be...@thismagpie.com wrote: ... New jhbuild/git/whatever tutorials will came up... people won't find the appropriate one given that the wiki is not official. Echo this. The developer.gnome jhbuild instructions are quite misleading because they are not up to date. Yet, this

Re: Canonical jhbuild documentation

Carlos Soriano Sanchez csori...@redhat.com wrote: ... When I created the series of BuildGnome CodeContributionWorkflow my intention was creating a simple straightforward workflow for contributing to Gnome for newcommers to Gnome and/or FOSS. So the simpler the better. ... BuildGnome it is

Re: 3.16 Release Notes

The release notes wiki page is still missing a lot of detail. Please take a minute to check it over - we'll be starting to write them up soon. Thanks, Allan On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, The wiki page for the 3.16 release notes is now up [1], so

Re: Canonical jhbuild documentation

Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote: ... I think though, as someone else further in the thread said, we want to make a distinction between 'quick start' and the manual. I honestly don't see why the manual can't contain a quick start section - we do this in other documentation without

Re: Canonical jhbuild documentation

Frederic Peters fpet...@gnome.org wrote: ... I believe this is no longer a problem; when I tried to merge the by-then new BuildGnome page into the manual, and converting it to Mallard, the primary problem was of license incompatibility between the contents from the wiki and the existing

Re: Canonical jhbuild documentation

Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote: ... Seems like you should talk this through with Carlos and Ryan - they're the effective maintainers of the wiki pages in question. I know that Carlos is keen to reduce the amount of duplication. Yes, I sent this email after consulting with him and

Re: OUTAGE: bugzilla.gnome.org, 09th February (09:00 CET) - 10th February (22:00 CET)

Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote: The upgrade has been finalized and the machine is back to production. A special thank you goes to Andre Klapper and Krzesimir Nowak for their hard work to make this happen. ... I just want to thank everyone on the sysadmin team for this. Same here!

Re: Canonical jhbuild documentation

Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: Problem: we have many pages on jhbuild documentation Let's list them: 1. https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Jhbuild 2. https://developer.gnome.org/jhbuild/unstable/ 3. https://wiki.gnome.org/GnomeLove/BuildGnome 4. https://wiki.gnome.org/GnomeLove/JhbuildIntroduction

Re: OUTAGE: bugzilla.gnome.org, 09th February (09:00 CET) - 10th February (22:00 CET)

For anyone who might be interested: git-bz stopped working for me with the upgrade. However, I was pointed to the following branch, which does work: http://cgit.collabora.com/git/user/pwith/git-bz.git/tree/git-bz?h=bugzilla-4.4 Allan ___

3.16 Release Notes

Hi all, The wiki page for the 3.16 release notes is now up [1], so please take a minute to add any features or changes you have worked on this cycle. I did add some entries for feature work that I know about, but they are very brief, so feel free to elaborate. Thanks, Allan [1]

Re: Reminder: three weeks until UI freeze

Mattias Bengtsson mattias.jc.bengts...@gmail.com wrote: Just a reminder that UI freeze starts on 16 March [...] 16 February :) I have officially lost my mind. Thanks for the correction, Mattias. Allan ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list

Reminder: three weeks until UI freeze

Hi all, Just a reminder that UI freeze starts on 16 March - which is three weeks from now. If you have any new features or UI changes that you would like reviewing, feel free get in touch and I'll take a look. Also, don't forget to take a look over the list of target bugs [1], if you haven't

3.16 Target Bugs Update

Hi all, A small number of target bugs have been fixed since my last mail. Thanks to everyone who worked on them! Right now, there are 21 issues still on the list (see below). It would be fantastic if we could cut that number down in the run up to 3.16. Happy new year, Allan ---

Initial 3.16 Target Bugs

Hi all, As promised, here is an initial list of 3.16 target bugs. These are being maintained by the Release Team and me, and will be used as the basis of the 3.16 blocker list. For this initial round, we're focusing on the most annoying bugs, on presenting content nicely, and making sure that we

Re: Initial 3.16 Target Bugs

Hi Leslie, Leslie S Satenstein lsatenst...@yahoo.com wrote: ... I posted a problem with Gnome Tweak interfering with Nautilus (Gnome 3.14.1). The Problem has been present for 6 months. I did post the problem onto a bugzilla report. ... I would suggest that this disable problem is included in

3.16 Target Bugs

Hi all, There seemed to be a positive response to the idea of tracking priority bugs more rigorously [1], so let's get this show on the road. The Release Team have agreed to meet after 3.14.1 to set an initial list of target bugs for 3.16. If you are a maintainer, you can set the

Re: Improving Quality

Matthias Clasen matthias.cla...@gmail.com wrote: ... I think this is a great idea. When we discussed this at Guadec, I got the impression that we should use this to draw attention to longstanding UX annoyances, early enough in the cycle to address them. Here is a short list of (my personal)

Improving Quality

Hi all, I believe that the key to GNOME's success is providing quality UX straight out of the box. We've made a lot of progress in this area, but to take it to the next level, I believe that we need to be more rigourous and coordinated. For the 3.15 cycle, I'd like us to try and do a better job

Re: Improving Quality

Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com wrote: ... My idea is to use the gnome-version Bugzilla field for setting the list of bugs. ... Apologies - that should have been gnome-target, not gnome-version. Allan ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel

Re: GNOME HIG: Feedback Wanted

Hey Michael, Thanks for the excellent feedback! I've tried to fix all of these points [1]. Michael Catanzaro mcatanz...@gnome.org wrote: ... On the header bar page: Header bars are incompatible with menu bars. On the menu bar page: menu bars can still be an appropriate choice, particularly

Re: GNOME HIG: Feedback Wanted

Michael Catanzaro mcatanz...@gnome.org wrote: ... Dynamic tabs always have equal widths, fixed tabs don't - which is what you're referencing here. I've tried to make it a bit clearer, but let me know if you think it's problematic still. Looks good! One more question: should we use GtkStack

Re: Giving up maintenership of my modules

On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 3:07 PM, Andre Klapper ak...@gmx.net wrote: On Tue, 2014-09-16 at 07:17 +0200, Juan Rafael García Blanco wrote: Does Gnome keep track of which projects need developers, documentators, maintainers, ...? I mean something similar to gnu's savanah. Developers: Always

Re: Giving up maintenership of my modules

Giovanni Campagna giocampagn...@gmail.com wrote: ... As some of you know, I'm starting a new experience at university this fall, and I've come to the realization that the amount of work required is quite different that what was at my previous institution. Therefore, I am afraid I will not be

Re: 3.14 Release Notes

Sébastien Wilmet swil...@gnome.org wrote: ... In the wiki I added something for GtkSourceView, now in the release notes it is in the section Other GTK+ Improvements. But GtkSourceView is not part of GTK+. It should be in another section Other libraries improvements or something like that. Ah

Re: GNOME 3.14 Blocker Report (week 36)

Some other potential blockers: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=736550 - gnome-weather: Forecast not available https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=726505 - gnome-photos: Would be nice to have a smooth sliding transition between photos

Re: 3.14 Release Notes

drago01 drag...@gmail.com wrote: evince: Remove annotations support ... this is a bit misleading it means option to remove annotations from a document ... Yeah, it became improved annotations functionality in the actual notes. Allan ___

Re: Developer Docs Roadmap [was Re: Glade release to include GtkHeaderBar?]

Shaun McCance sha...@gnome.org wrote: ... It is worth looking into sharing solutions with other projects. But most projects seem to do what we've done: home-brew a solution that fits exactly their needs. Hard to share that. In that case, I've got some mockups in the works for a new site:

Re: Developer Docs Roadmap [was Re: Glade release to include GtkHeaderBar?]

Jasper St. Pierre jstpie...@mecheye.net wrote: While I'm sure a dynamic site would be a great idea in the far future, are there any small, actionable goals we can make for this? As Fred already said, this list is probably the critical priority -

Re: Developer Docs Roadmap [was Re: Glade release to include GtkHeaderBar?]

Frederic Peters fpet...@gnome.org wrote: ... I would tend to put goals before technical details, but library-web as it is nowadays is certainly not the best option; I addressed a few of the issues in my mail to gnome-doc-devel-list@. ... * Hackability ... * User experience ... *

Re: Developer Docs Roadmap [was Re: Glade release to include GtkHeaderBar?]

Frederic Peters fpet...@gnome.org wrote: ... RTD has been hugely popular in the Python world, but it's not the only continuous deployment or automated docs build system out there. Red Hat and Fedora use Publican for almost everything. OpenStack has a big pile of Maven code that builds its

Re: Developer Docs Roadmap [was Re: Glade release to include GtkHeaderBar?]

Frederic Peters fpet...@gnome.org wrote: ... I'd prefer to have ideas on the structure we want before we go looking for the appropriate software (or changes to the library-web code base). ... Thinking about this, if we are going to do something homebrew, then I can I can come up with more

Re: Developer Docs Roadmap [was Re: Glade release to include GtkHeaderBar?]

Shaun McCance sha...@gnome.org wrote: ... RTD has been hugely popular in the Python world, but it's not the only continuous deployment or automated docs build system out there. Red Hat and Fedora use Publican for almost everything. ... The Red Hat Publican deployment seems fairly custom - it

Re: GNOME HIG: Feedback Wanted

Lasse Schuirmann lasse.schuirm...@gmail.com wrote: ... Some feedback from me: Typography One thing that is missing IMO in the font size discussion is the uglieness of absolute font sizes. In the Universal Access menu you have the Large Text option: if you use absolute font

Re: GNOME HIG: Feedback Wanted

Michael Catanzaro mcatanz...@gnome.org wrote: Another question. On the header bar menus page: Header bar menus are not a good choice for performing actions on selected content: when content hasn't been selected, the menu will contain unhelpful insensitive menu items, when it has been

Re: Glade release to include GtkHeaderBar?

Sriram Ramkrishna sriram.ramkris...@gmail.com wrote: ... We need a volunteer or many volunteer who can help here. Happily will mentor or find a mentor who is willing to put the time. Anybody interested in getting this reviewed and working? I was primarily referring to the documentation

Re: 3.14 Release Notes

. Thanks, Allan On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 12:23 PM, Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone! The 3.14 release is approaching fast, and UI freeze is almost upon us. Now is a good time to start thinking about the Release Notes. Please add any features you have worked on over this cycle

Re: GNOME HIG: Feedback Wanted

Michael Catanzaro mcatanz...@gnome.org wrote: ... I'm about halfway done reading. I have a few suggestions, all minor: * The Visual Layout page discusses how many pixels to use as margins. This is easy for developers to use, but it caused some confusion on LWN given that on hidpi displays

GNOME HIG: Feedback Wanted

Hi all, A new version of the HIG is in the works, to be released along with GNOME 3.14 [1]. I'm currently looking for feedback. I'm particularly interested to know if anything is missing, confusing, or incorrect from a technical point of view (like if any of the recommendations are impossible or

Re: GNOME HIG: Feedback Wanted

On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 4:50 PM, Maciej Piechotka uzytkown...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 2014-08-22 at 08:47 +0100, Allan Day wrote: Hi all, A new version of the HIG is in the works, to be released along with GNOME 3.14 [1]. I'm currently looking for feedback. I'm particularly interested

3.14 Release Notes

Hi everyone! The 3.14 release is approaching fast, and UI freeze is almost upon us. Now is a good time to start thinking about the Release Notes. Please add any features you have worked on over this cycle to the wiki page: https://wiki.gnome.org/ThreePointThirteen/ReleaseNotes They can be big

Re: git.gnome.org changes and new doap file requirements

Michael Catanzaro mcatanz...@gnome.org wrote: ... This is very much a work in progress, but here's a good proposal from Allan: https://wiki.gnome.org/AllanDay/Modulesets Note that this page is a personal draft, and I'm waiting to hear back from the Release Team about it. Allan

Re: Gnome.org's crypto infrastructure

Hey Federico, Federico Mena Quintero feder...@gnome.org wrote: ... This mail is intended for brainstorming some ideas before GUADEC. It's not to decide anything and set it in stone. ... There's a GSoC project that's focusing on keysigning this summer -

Re: RFC - file chooser dialog API for sandboxed apps

Hey Steve! Dodier-Lazaro, Steve s.dodier-lazaro...@ucl.ac.uk wrote: ... I've been working on an API to provide file chooser dialogs to sandboxed apps lately. This is merely a prototype with some ideas and mockups for extensions, and I'd be very keen to have feedback ... I'm not really in a

Re: Unreviewed patches - is the boat sinking?

Joanna Larsen oaksp...@gmail.com wrote: ... I'm new to Gnome. Some time ago I started looking into the inner workings of it. Reading the source code, learning from it. Coming up with a few ideas. So I jumped on Bugzilla eager to fix bugs and contribute features. Until I found this [1]. No

Re: Request for comments on security of authentication/authorisation UIs

Hey Steve, Dodier-Lazaro, Steve s.dodier-lazaro...@ucl.ac.uk wrote: ... As with any detailed design discussion, face-to-face discussions are important also. There might be conversations about this at a couple of upcoming hackfests [2, 3]. Let me know if you're interested in joining us in

Re: Request for comments on security of authentication/authorisation UIs

Dodier-Lazaro, Steve s.dodier-lazaro...@ucl.ac.uk wrote: ... One does one keep informed about this? Where do I sign up? That's a good question. You can subscribe to the wiki page that I linked to, follow this mailing list, and follow Planet GNOME. I'm sure that there will be traffic on this

Re: Request for comments on security of authentication/authorisation UIs

Dodier-Lazaro, Steve s.dodier-lazaro...@ucl.ac.uk wrote: ... I'm afraid we don't currently have a clear plan for how all the pieces will fit together, but we do have ideas and are looking to develop a concrete plan for the UX in the near future. One does one keep informed about this? Where do

Re: Mass Reboot: Monday 31th of March, 21:30 - 23:00 PM CET

Thanks Andrea! Allan On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 9:13 PM, Andrea Veri a...@gnome.org wrote: On Fri, 28 Mar 2014, Andrea Veri wrote: we'll be performing a mass reboot of all our machines this upcoming monday to apply all the kernel and security updates. All the services will be affected for a

Re: Request for comments on security of authentication/authorisation UIs

Hey Steve! Thanks for reaching out about this. Speaking from a design point of view, having a more rigorous security model is something that we are extremely interested in at the moment, and this is something that Wayland has an obvious part to play in. There are also other technologies that will

Re: Coordination for developer documentations

Frederic Peters fpet...@gnome.org wrote: ... Developer documentation will be a topic during the Developer Experience Hackfest, but I believe we will fail again to provide lasting effects if nobody takes on a coordination role. ... But I'm a bit lost since the decisions that were agreed at the

Re: Coordination for developer documentations

Frederic Peters fpet...@gnome.org wrote: ... It's been proved again in recent hackfests, we have a really great team writing user documentations, and thanks have to be given to Shaun, and now Kat, for coordinating the effort. On the other hand we have absolutely no coordination for developer

Release Notes Reminder

Hi everyone, The wiki page for the 3.12 release notes [1] is filling up nicely, but there are still some notable absences. Please add any user or developer changes that you know about! Also, some sections are rather light on details, so please consider adding extra information. It makes writing

Re: Release Notes Reminder

alex diavatis alexis.diava...@gmail.com wrote: this page can be edited only by developers? Not at all. Please feel free to add anything we've missed! Thanks, Allan ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org

Re: Intent to ask for freeze break

Shaun McCance sha...@gnome.org wrote: ... This is just a heads-up that, if I can manage to get everything done this weekend, I intend to ask for a freeze break to implement Allan's designs for Yelp: ... Not happening. Too much left to do, too unstable, and too many design questions still

Release Notes Time!

Hi everyone, It's that time again! Please take a moment to think about the user and developer features that you have worked on for 3.12 and add them to the wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/ThreePointEleven/ReleaseNotes Thanks! Allan ___

Re: Status of GNOME OS

Hey Oliver, Oliver Propst oliver.pro...@gmail.com wrote: ... What parts of the initiative are working, should we try to make a new stronger commitment to the original ideas or are we happy with the situation today as described on the wiki [2] ? ... GNOME OS is a label that we used to describe

Re: UI Freeze Blockers

Kalev Lember kalevlem...@gmail.com wrote: * 722898 gnome-shell: Offer update install from the shutdown button I am on this one. Awesome, thanks Kalev! I added another one to the list that you (or maybe someone else) might be interested in: * 724226 gnome-control-center: Time zone

3.12 UX Bugs

Hi all, A bunch of bugs have been put on the 3.12 whiteboard [1] in anticipation of the upcoming UI freeze. The list contains potential blockers, as well as bits of polish that it would be nice to get done. (Note that it's not comprehensive.) If you're a maintainer, or if you'd like to help us

Re: Underlying DE for the Fedora Workstation product

Hi Alex, Thanks for reaching out with your ideas. I'm afraid that you're catching us at a bad time - we are really close to UI freeze and a lot of us are working flat out on that. I personally don't have much time to spare on mailing lists right now. :) Can you explain what the GNOME 2

Re: Hooking up gnome-session with dbus/kdbus/systemd

Matthias Clasen matthias.cla...@gmail.com wrote: ... The only thing I've seen in this discussion that I disagree with is the idea to make the distinction between starting a service (in the background) and launching the application (opening a window) implicit, by looking at somewhat obscure

Reminder: One Month Until UI Freeze

Hi everyone, It is exactly one month until UI freeze. Things you might want to consider doing to mark this special occasion: * If you are responsible for a feature proposal [1], please make sure you have updated its status recently on the wiki. * It would be useful to know what changes have

Re: App menu Help/About consistency

Michael Catanzaro mcatanz...@gnome.org wrote: Sure, that's what I've been working to do with the new HIG, which has a page on application menus [1]. I don't have a massively strong opinion on the label used for the about item, or how help/about/quit should be grouped. I just went with what

Re: FOSDEM 2014 Desktops DevRoom Call for Talks

Hey everyone, A reminder that the deadline for FOSDEM talks is December 14th - that's the end of this week! http://www.elpauer.org/2013/10/fosdem-desktops-devroom-2014-call-for-talks/ Allan On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Christophe Fergeau cferg...@gmail.com wrote: Hey everyone, just a

Re: App menu Help/About consistency

Jim Nelson j...@yorba.org wrote: ... We've done this many times at Yorba, asking ourselves What does gedit do in that case? or What does Nautilus do? It doesn't mean those are the final word on our design, but they suggest to us how the GNOME designers think an app should be modeled. We want

Re: App menu Help/About consistency

Michael Catanzaro mcatanz...@gnome.org wrote: On Mon, 2013-11-25 at 14:36 +, Allan Day wrote: In general I would say that they indicate that those items shouldn't be in the app menu, since they are specific to a particular window or view, but I'd be interested to hear how other people

Re: App menu Help/About consistency

Hey Michael! Michael Catanzaro mcatanz...@gnome.org wrote: Many of our apps put Help above About in the app menu, but many put About above Help. Many of the About labels are About app name, but many omit the app name. Many place a separator between Help/About (whichever is last) and Quit,

Re: App menu Help/About consistency

Pierre-Yves Luyten p...@luyten.fr wrote: [1] https://wiki.gnome.org/Design/HIG/ApplicationMenus Could this document be extended to cover the switch between the different views? See https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=697591. One of the goals for the new HIG is to try and avoiding

Re: 3.12 feature: polari

David Woodhouse dw...@infradead.org wrote: Or be a better alternative to Empathy for rooms, leaving Empathy (or eventually, Contacts + Shell, I guess) for IM. That seems like confusing balkanisation to me. The usage patterns for IRC are different from regular IM (passive presence in many

Re: 3.12 feature: polari

David Woodhouse dw...@infradead.org wrote: The usage patterns for IRC are different from regular IM (passive presence in many always on channels vs. active participation in a smaller number of temporally specific conversations). You can't support both with the same UI (I know, I've tried to

Re: 3.12 feature: polari

David Woodhouse dw...@infradead.org wrote: ... What, *exactly*, does the user's decision-making process look like, when she wants to communicate and has to choose which tool to use for it? ... The same as it does now for XChat or some other IRC client? Allan

Re: 3.12 feature: polari

Kenneth Nielsen k.nielse...@gmail.com wrote: I don't mean to be a buzz kill here but IRC clients seem to be dime a dozen. Can you give a list of dedicated IRC clients for GNOME? How many of them are any good? Allan ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list

Header Bars GNOME Goal

Hi everyone, As you probably know, we ported a lot of apps to use header bars for 3.10. These have been working really well, and feel like a big improvement. However, not all of our apps are using header bars, which creates a consistency problem. I've started a GNOME Goal page to address this:

Re: Header Bars GNOME Goal

Jens Georg m...@jensge.org wrote: gedit ist marked to do but green so either the colour is wrong or the to do :) Still not done, but I'm hopeful that we can have a snazzy updated gedit for 3.12. :) I've updated the wiki page. Allan ___

Re: Middle click, dumbing down Slashdotted

Mathieu Stumpf psychosl...@culture-libre.org wrote: There's a pdf document somewhere about gnome design foundations (I can't find it now, but probably I found it on [2], You're probably thinking of Jon's old GNOME Shell design doc [1]. where you can read a quote which states something like

Re: Middle click, dumbing down Slashdotted

Ray Morris webmastersguide2...@yahoo.com wrote: Not be be a jerk, but can you seriously post that with a straight face? ... didn't turn up anything about the middle mouse button until last week and that bugzilla has several people begging that the behavior not be changed. I don't see how

Re: Middle click, dumbing down Slashdotted

Ray Morris webmastersguide2...@yahoo.com wrote: Middle click got Slashdotted. Some of the comments on Slashdot may be of interest: http://linux.slashdot.org/story/13/09/24/1252243/middle-click-paste-not-for-long Must be a slow news day. That story is almost a month old. It seems to me that

Re: Middle click, dumbing down Slashdotted

Ray Morris webmastersguide2...@yahoo.com wrote: Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com said: You're making a lot of assumptions here. When this story broke it was on the basis of two commits, and had no other background information. I've read some of the discussion. The news stories did pick up

Re: Middle click, dumbing down Slashdotted

Tomasz Torcz to...@pipebreaker.pl wrote: You're making an argument about simplification in a thread about middle-click, but the designs for what might happen to middle-click have neither been finalised nor publicised. I think it would be better to wait until the text selection designs have

Re: Middle click, dumbing down Slashdotted

Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com wrote: Large changes in terms of the interaction paradigm, such as the switch from GNOME 2 and GNOME 3, can be problematic for users, but by presenting them with a very different interface, it can essentially 'force' a retraining, that can be assisted by

Re: Check your header bar styling

Ewgeny B evgen.i...@gmail.com wrote: I have just tried gnome-clocks out after rebuilding gnome-themes-standard. Iirc we have no styles set for the header bar, and the new look appeared in clocks seems to me like a change from bad to worse:( as a general look as well as due to height changes

Release Notes Time

Hey everyone, 3.10 is shaping up really nicely, and it's time to start thinking about what we want to put in the release notes. Please, please spend a bit of time to make a note of anything you have done this cycle: https://wiki.gnome.org/ThreePointNine/ReleaseNotes The earlier you can provide

Re: Announcing GNOME's official GitHub mirror

Super Bisquit superbisq...@gmail.com wrote: Since when did you become a Dr without having an actual doctorate- honorary ones don't mean shit? Derogatory personal comments have no place on this list. Please refrain from making posts like this again. Our moderators have been notified about this,

Re: Passive resistance [was: Re: Announcing GNOME's official GitHub mirror]

Shaun McCance sha...@gnome.org wrote: There's possibly a discussion to have about whether GNOME should use proprietary services for outreach, but GitHub isn't really anything new here. In my opinion, if you feel strongly about the use of proprietary services for outreach, perhaps GNOME isn't

Re: A first look at 3.10 blockers

I've had a quick look, and these are some of the bugs I'd like to have on the blocker list: 691316 photos - no minimum size set 700726 music - only checks for new music at start 696166 control-center - have lock screen curtain background configurable 691187 control-center - Battery life

Re: Combined system status updates

drago01 drag...@gmail.com wrote: ... Me, Jon and Jakub have reviewed the combined system status designs in the attempt to address the feedback that we've got. A fresh round of wireframes are now on the wiki [1]. I think that they resolve the most serious issues that have been raised. I have

Re: Combined system status updates

Nirbheek Chauhan nirbh...@gentoo.org wrote: On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 12:50 AM, Andreas Nilsson li...@andreasn.se wrote: On 2013-05-13 16:02, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: These look rather nice. My only concern with these wireframes is that they would make the menu far too long. Would this menu still

Re: Combined system status updates

Nirbheek Chauhan nirbh...@gentoo.org wrote: ... I beg to differ there! On my laptop with its default setup, I would see 13 items + 5 separators on the menu at all times (increasing to 14 with updates). Can you explain how you came up with those numbers? Do you have multiple VPNs/Mobile

Re: GNOME throbber inconsistencies?

On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 4:44 AM, Cosimo Cecchi cosi...@gnome.org wrote: On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 5:04 PM, Marco Scannadinari ma...@scannadinari.co.uk wrote: I think using the very nice throbber by the Tango people would look a lot nicer and reduce the work (?) needed to standardise the throbber

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