Re: GNOME 3.0 - shell and applets

2009-05-16 Thread Natan Yellin
[1] while the difference between notification and status seems ephimeral, here [2] http://live.gnome.org/AlternativeNotificationsUI That's really nice. The Mathusalem-like progress bars are especially awesome. Natan ___ desktop-devel-list mailing

Re: Planning for GNOME 3.0

2009-04-19 Thread Natan Yellin
On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 6:50 PM, Sebastian Pölsterl s...@k-d-w.org wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jamie McCracken schrieb: If a new infrastructure is needed then it would be best to merge it with notification icons and make it xdg compliant and not gnome specific

Re: Planning for GNOME 3.0

2009-04-02 Thread Natan Yellin
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 3:04 PM, Natan Yellin aan...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Vincent Untz vu...@gnome.org wrote: - Changing the way we access documents (via a journal, like GNOME Zeitgeist [3]): having to deal with a filesystem in their daily work is not what

Re: quo vadis, docs

2009-02-16 Thread Natan Yellin
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 7:02 PM, Frederic Peters fpet...@gnome.org wrote: Natan Yellin wrote: I gave a talk at the Boston Summit about problems with the developer website. Even though most of the issues have been fixed, the slides are still relevant to other parts of gnome.org. http

Re: quo vadis, docs

2009-02-10 Thread Natan Yellin
2009/2/9 Matteo Settenvini matteo...@member.fsf.org On lun, 2009-02-09 at 11:00 -0600, Shaun McCance wrote: We do get volunteers on a semi-regular basis, but we inevitably lose them. It would be useful to identify why we lose them and fix those problems. I'll readily admit that I'm

Re: quo vadis, docs

2009-02-09 Thread Natan Yellin
On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 5:00 PM, Dan Winship d...@gnome.org wrote: Dave Neary wrote: - Should we just ditch the docs and declare the UI self-explanatory ? Definitely not. Why not? Seems like no one has ever bothered to file bug reports about the fact that they're wrong... Maybe there are

Re: Please block this off-topic crap (Re: Obama -- The Judas Goat)

2009-01-26 Thread Natan Yellin
Hello, 2009/1/25 Wouter Bolsterlee wbols...@gnome.org 2009-01-25 klockan 18:55 skrev Dylan McCall: Curiously, this exact same wave of spam has hit piles of open source mailing lists. The openmoko lists are seeing the same problem, for example. Maybe we should join forces and ping the

Re: Wake Up World! Meet the New Boss, Same as the Old Boss

2009-01-22 Thread Natan Yellin
Felix, I'm forwarding the discussion from Gnome Journal list. I hope this clarifies things. (Gosh! Antisemitism, an anti-Bush rant, and Obama rage all mixed up together! Someone is confused.) -Natan -- Forwarded message -- From: Vincent Untz vu...@gnome.org Date: Thu, Jan 22,

Re: Wake Up World! Meet the New Boss, Same as the Old Boss

2009-01-22 Thread Natan Yellin
...@gmx.net wrote: Thanks a lot, I missed the official response ;) I don't get Gnome Journal mails so I didn't get this. It makes things clear, but I hope we'll hear from Christophe, that he's not really behind this, soon ;) cheers felix Natan Yellin wrote: Felix, I'm forwarding

Re: how I write GTK+ theme?

2009-01-19 Thread Natan Yellin
2009/1/19 Benjamin Berg benja...@sipsolutions.net On Mon, 2009-01-19 at 05:19 +, Davyd Madeley wrote: I'm trying to get a feel for how hard it would be to write a tool similar to the Java Swing theme Napkin: http://napkinlaf.sourceforge.net/ I have thought about writing this like two

Re: GNOME DVCS Survey Results

2009-01-05 Thread Natan Yellin
On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Felipe Contreras felipe.contre...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/1/5 Ali Sabil ali.sa...@gmail.com: On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 11:33 PM, Olav Vitters o...@bkor.dhs.org wrote: On Sun, Jan 04, 2009 at 05:29:02PM -0500, David Zeuthen wrote: Uh, but that's exactly

Re: Pleasantness [was: Re: Sound effects]

2008-12-13 Thread natan yellin
2008/12/13 Ross Burton r...@burtonini.com On Fri, 2008-12-12 at 19:08 +0100, Patryk Zawadzki wrote: Then we can build on top of that to provide locations so you can switch the usage profile, the proxy configuration, VPN settings and other stuff basing on where you sit (and get bonus points

Re: new module proposal: notification-daemon+libnotify

2008-11-15 Thread natan yellin
Where is the code currently hosted? I'd like to play around with this if I have time. -Natan 2008/11/6 Christian Hammond [EMAIL PROTECTED] I can assure you that this hasn't bit-rotted. It has been in development, but my work on Unity at VMware this past year basically took up all my free

Re: new module proposal: notification-daemon+libnotify

2008-11-10 Thread natan yellin
On 11/10/08, Matthias Clasen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 9:11 AM, Martin Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I sometimes miss my notifications too.. Would it be possible to remember notifications that have come through until they are explicitly acknowledged? We could bind

Re: Main Menu mockup

2008-11-10 Thread natan yellin
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 10:36 AM, Matthew McGowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the five different menus are already cluttered, then you're not going to make something less cluttered by just munging them all together. On the other hand, if it's possible to simplify each of them enough that

Re: Main Menu mockup

2008-11-05 Thread natan yellin
Forwarding to the Gnome Shell mailing list. On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 6:29 PM, Calum Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5 Nov 2008, at 10:57, Matthew McGowan wrote: My main menu mockup, i believe, offers more functionality than existing main menus... though i guess it is similar to the

Re: build system alternatives (Was: Using vala in GNOME)

2008-07-01 Thread natan yellin
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 2:32 AM, Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 23:45 +0300, natan yellin wrote: On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 9:59 PM, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/6/30 Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: build system alternatives (Was: Using vala in GNOME)

2008-06-30 Thread natan yellin
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 9:59 PM, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/6/30 Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 12:01 -0300, Johan Dahlin wrote: Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro wrote: On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 15:07 +0100, Alberto Ruiz wrote: [..]

Re: Using vala in GNOME

2008-06-30 Thread natan yellin
2008/6/30 Alberto Ruiz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2008/6/30 Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 15:07 +0100, Alberto Ruiz wrote: 2008/6/30 Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]: An excellent reason to switch to a more modular build system,

Re: Need Leadership

2008-06-29 Thread natan yellin
On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Sebastian Pölsterl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Diego Escalante Urrelo schrieb: Hey, On 6/28/08, Thomas H.P. Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 6:13 PM, Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But this all getting a bit off topic I

Re: Need Leadership

2008-06-29 Thread natan yellin
On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 2:29 PM, Sebastian Pölsterl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: natan yellin schrieb: On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Sebastian Pölsterl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Diego Escalante Urrelo schrieb: Hey, On 6/28/08, Thomas H.P. Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Jun

Re: Need Leadership

2008-06-27 Thread natan yellin
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 2:29 PM, Thomas H.P. Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 2:00 PM, Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2008-06-24 at 12:27 +0300, natan yellin wrote: 1. Host an annual developer awards contest. Apple does it, and there's really

Re: Need Leadership

2008-06-27 Thread natan yellin
One thing I'd like to add on to my last reply: On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 2:56 PM, natan yellin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 2:29 PM, Thomas H.P. Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 2:00 PM, Rodrigo Moya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2008-06-24

Re: Need Leadership

2008-06-27 Thread natan yellin
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 3:48 PM, Who [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/6/27 natan yellin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: One thing I'd like to add on to my last reply: On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 2:56 PM, natan yellin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 2:29 PM, Thomas H.P. Andersen [EMAIL

Re: Need Leadership

2008-06-27 Thread natan yellin
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 5:03 PM, natan yellin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 3:16 PM, Thomas H.P. Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's a bit of an exaggeration, but there is something to what Leslie said. Personally, I felt that in the case of GHOP, the grand prize

Re: Need Leadership

2008-06-27 Thread natan yellin
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 6:06 PM, Marko Anastasov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 5:03 PM, natan yellin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 3:16 PM, Thomas H.P. Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's a bit of an exaggeration, but there is something

Re: Need Leadership

2008-06-24 Thread natan yellin
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 11:54 PM, Brian Cameron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jason: We need to tap in to the wave of energy generated by the The Thread on Planet Gnome. Already, it's apparent that the fervor that surrounded it has started to dwindle. A ton of interesting ideas were thrown out

Re: Discussions on Pgo was: Re: Need Leadership

2008-06-23 Thread natan yellin
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 9:26 PM, Kalle Vahlman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/6/23 BJörn Lindqvist [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Pgo is good for getting to know the daily lives of gnome hackers and stuff. But it shouldn't act as a general debating board. That's what mailing lists are for. I'd like

Re: Discussions on Pgo was: Re: Need Leadership

2008-06-23 Thread natan yellin
natan yellin: On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 9:26 PM, Kalle Vahlman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/6/23 BJörn Lindqvist [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Pgo is good for getting to know the daily lives of gnome hackers and stuff. But it shouldn't act as a general debating

Fwd: Need Leadership

2008-06-21 Thread natan yellin
Sorry, I accidentally replied off-list. -- Forwarded message -- From: natan yellin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 10:01 PM Subject: Re: Need Leadership To: Luis Villa [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 9:48 PM, Luis Villa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat

Fwd: Need Leadership

2008-06-21 Thread natan yellin
-- Forwarded message -- From: Hubert Figuiere [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 11:34 PM Subject: Re: Need Leadership To: natan yellin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Even if you interpret that as an anti-Mono rant, he still has a point with the rest of his email. The discussion

Re: GNOME 2.23 Schedule

2008-03-20 Thread natan yellin
On 3/19/08, Olav Vitters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 12:12:59AM +0200, Felipe Contreras wrote: On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 10:16 PM, Olav Vitters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: /snip Yes. Ubuntu is acting as a translator between user and developer. Which is what I am

Re: GNOME 2.23 Schedule

2008-03-20 Thread natan yellin
On 3/20/08, Federico Mena Quintero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2008-03-20 at 15:57 +0200, Felipe Contreras wrote: [Infrastructure to keep track of regressions in login time] Yeap, apparently such infrastructure is needed. Yeah. We can probably start by adding some checkpoints to

Fwd: GNOME 2.23 Schedule

2008-03-19 Thread natan yellin
-- Forwarded message -- From: natan yellin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mar 19, 2008 2:39 PM Subject: Re: GNOME 2.23 Schedule To: Olav Vitters [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 3/19/08, Olav Vitters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 12:12:59AM +0200, Felipe Contreras wrote

Re: [gnome-love] GSOC 2008 advice

2008-02-29 Thread natan yellin
I'm (re)forwarding this to the list because I don't think it got sent the first time. On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 5:13 PM, natan yellin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The whole applets/screenlets/plugins/online-desktop-stocks/mini-programs infrastructure is currently a mess. Instead of adding new

Re: [gnome-love] GSOC 2008 advice

2008-02-29 Thread natan yellin
To make things a bit easier to follow, I'm going to start reposting everything important from all of the various forums and email lists on my blog http://theesylum.com. Please use the Awn forums or email for discussion. Natan Yellin On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 12:21 PM, natan yellin [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: communication/information between forward-looking projects [was Re: Some info (Ref: GSOC 2008 advice)]

2008-02-29 Thread natan yellin
related projects. We may want to even consider including KDE (and maybe even OS X and Windows) developers. I can set it up myself, if no one else feels like doing it. Natan Yellin Luis P.S. threads all time on d-d-l mentioning before yesterday: screenlet[s]: 1 AWN: 2 gimmie: 16