On Tue, Jan 06, 2009 at 11:09:27AM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Le mardi 06 janvier 2009 à 17:21 +0900, James Henstridge a écrit :
I'd hope that any DVCS would get a larger user base than current list
of active Subversion committers: anyone who contributes patches via
mailing lists
As I haven't really contributed anything to GNOME in a year or so,
I've been keeping out of the debate, but:
On 07/01/2009, at 9:00 AM, Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro wrote:
Welcome to the open source world. Generally open source developers
are
not limited to GNOME, and they eventually learn
James Livingston schrieb:
As I haven't really contributed anything to GNOME in a year or so, I've
been keeping out of the debate, but:
On 07/01/2009, at 9:00 AM, Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro wrote:
Welcome to the open source world. Generally open source developers are
not limited to GNOME,
to be suspected of
non-representative-ness [New word!].
I'd hope that any DVCS would get a larger user base than current list
of active Subversion committers: anyone who contributes patches via
mailing lists or bugzilla could use a DVCS the same way as a core
developer. The same could go for anyone who does
to be inclusive -- no,
lemme rephrase that: we are *fucking afraid of committment*. seriously:
an abstraction over DVCS? what have we become? are we *ever* going make
*any* decision about *anything*? this is actually a larger issue with
the GNOME community: we are being afraid.
Thanks Emmanuele
-control/git-is-like-cvs.html
I've been using DVCS systems for a long long time. I have great respect
for all the groups who have worked on the 3rd generation tools.
Unfortunately I have no sympathy for Git anymore, and am tired of it
screwing over people trying to use it. I for one I won't
On Mon, 2009-01-05 at 16:41 +, Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro wrote:
Heh, thanks a lot. This looks nice. Nicer than the one in gnulib that
Rui Tiago pointed out. Although I must say not as nice as my 'gnulog'
bazaar log formatter plugin.. ;-) But I guess good enough that I'd be
From what I understand, so far there has been one proposal, from Olav, who
proposed that he and John implement John's idea of implementing a git-serve
plugin for the bzr repo server. I think many people pointed out the major
flaws in that scenario. I want to stress that we should not make
On di, 2009-01-06 at 04:53 -0500, Behdad Esfahbod wrote:
Ali Sabil wrote:
Concerning the asserted flaws in John's proposal, the only valid point,
is that it will need testing as the implementation is not very mature
yet,
And that's a HUGE issue, mind you.
Here's another problem I'd
Josselin Mouette wrote:
Le mardi 06 janvier 2009 à 17:21 +0900, James Henstridge a écrit :
I'd hope that any DVCS would get a larger user base than current list
of active Subversion committers: anyone who contributes patches via
mailing lists or bugzilla could use a DVCS the same way as a core
Le mardi 06 janvier 2009 à 13:10 +1100, Andrew Cowie a écrit :
Regardless, GNOME is not switching to anything. If GNOME
infrastructure is going to offer Git hosting, that's lovely for people
who chose to use Git as their version control system. {shrug} fine. If
GNOME infrastructure
are
contributing regularly to GNOME projects, and don't have an account on
GNOME SVN? And why don't they?
Another question: what is the cost associated with hosting multiple
DVCSes? I understand of course that most people don't even have one SCM
tool installed on their system. But for those not using a DVCS
DVCSes? I understand of course that most people don't even have one SCM
tool installed on their system. But for those not using a DVCS, moving
from 0 to 1 is the big move, and I am not sure that there is a huge cost
to having both git and bzr hosting on gnome.org, for official GNOME
projects
2009/1/6 Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org:
Le mardi 06 janvier 2009 à 17:21 +0900, James Henstridge a écrit :
I'd hope that any DVCS would get a larger user base than current list
of active Subversion committers: anyone who contributes patches via
mailing lists or bugzilla could use a DVCS
Hi,
Behdad Esfahbod wrote:
Dave Neary wrote:
snip
This is only true if you don't believe that future contributions to the
GNOME base are dependent of the RCS we decide to host on gnome.org
(should we decide to host only one).
You are of course right. I probably should also have added that
2009-01-06 klockan 08:21 skrev Max Kanat-Alexander:
Git really has no API, you just run the commands and get the output.
*Subversion* actually had the best API when I was writing VCI, FWIW.
Git and CVS had the worst API, in terms of integration. There may be
better modules available now,
convinced that the advantages of supporting both
outweigh the disadvantages (looking at the usage patterns, not the
technical merits).
I was on the fence about this, especially because I prefer bzr to git.
But Ruben is right on the money. Implementing DVCS should not raise the
barrier
On Tue, 2009-01-06 at 03:46 -0500, Behdad Esfahbod wrote:
So, here is what I'm bringing to the table: I'm volunteering to work
with
interested fd.o admins and other volunteers to switch GNOME to git. I
need to
first go check to see if I can secure enough time to lead this, and if
I can
On Tue, Jan 06, 2009, Behdad Esfahbod wrote:
From what I understand, so far there has been one proposal, from Olav, who
proposed that he and John implement John's idea of implementing a git-serve
plugin for the bzr repo server.
I wonder whether you received interesting ideas in the survey
On Tue, 2009-01-06 at 21:01 +0100, Loïc Minier wrote:
On Tue, Jan 06, 2009, Behdad Esfahbod wrote:
From what I understand, so far there has been one proposal, from Olav, who
proposed that he and John implement John's idea of implementing a git-serve
plugin for the bzr repo server.
I
to achieve can be documented for all VCS-es (checkout, do some changes
and commit or create a patch). Just like various modules are using
various programming languages or even build systems.
This idea was discussed when the DVCS thing was brought up first. I think
Olav was against it for sysadmin
2009/1/6 Alexander Larsson al...@redhat.com:
On Tue, 2009-01-06 at 21:01 +0100, Loïc Minier wrote:
On Tue, Jan 06, 2009, Behdad Esfahbod wrote:
From what I understand, so far there has been one proposal, from Olav, who
proposed that he and John implement John's idea of implementing a
On Tue, 2009-01-06 at 21:30 +, Alberto Ruiz wrote:
2009/1/6 Alexander Larsson al...@redhat.com:
On Tue, 2009-01-06 at 21:01 +0100, Loïc Minier wrote:
On Tue, Jan 06, 2009, Behdad Esfahbod wrote:
From what I understand, so far there has been one proposal, from Olav,
who
proposed
Emmanuele Bassi wrote:
[0] I'm reasonably sure it has some. not as the one proposed to avoid
pissing off somebody somewhere because we want to be inclusive -- no,
lemme rephrase that: we are *fucking afraid of committment*. seriously:
an abstraction over DVCS? what have we become? are we *ever
On 1/5/09, Johannes Schmid j...@jsschmid.de wrote:
6. Check all the documentation stuff on live.gnome.org that needs to be
updated. That is really important because not everybody is familiar with
git. There should also be a short introduction to git somewhere on the
wiki. And some
On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 5:22 PM, Olav Vitters o...@bkor.dhs.org wrote:
On Sun, Jan 04, 2009 at 06:34:47PM -0500, David Zeuthen wrote:
On Mon, 2009-01-05 at 00:18 +0100, Olav Vitters wrote:
I am not evading. Stop trying to make this personal. I don't care about
CoC, I don't like you're talking
On ma, 2009-01-05 at 12:32 -0500, Diego Escalante Urrelo wrote:
On 1/5/09, Johannes Schmid j...@jsschmid.de wrote:
6. Check all the documentation stuff on live.gnome.org that needs to be
updated. That is really important because not everybody is familiar with
git. There should also be a
Mathias Hasselmann wrote:
Am I missing something?
Make build.gnome.org work with the new setup; I plan to write some
requirements (nothing fancy, and stuffs that will most probably be
also required elsewhere).
There may also be some other infrastructure systems that would
require some porting
Josselin Mouette wrote:
BTW, do we have the resources to migrate the repository to the SVN 1.5
format? It looks like, independently from other decisions, a quick and
easy way to improve the situation – and to improve it right now, not in
2010.
Olav announced it on October 29th:
Hi,
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 7:51 AM, Olav Vitters o...@bkor.dhs.org wrote:
Anyway, I'd rather add John Carr to the sysadmin team. I plan to make a
proposal to switch GNOME to a DVCS where Git works using Johns
suggestion. Then other sysadmins[1] can suggest whatever proposal they
want
Le lundi 05 janvier 2009 à 09:51 -0500, Dan Winship a écrit :
It seems pretty clear that the git-over-bzr solution doesn't make the
git users any happier than git-over-svn does, so let's not pretend that
it's any different from doing just bzr. So, given that we seem to have
sysadmin resources
Hi!
Am Montag, den 05.01.2009, 16:23 +0100 schrieb Mathias Hasselmann:
First of all I want to thank Behdad and the participants of the survey
for giving us numbers.
Second I want to complain about the direction this discussion takes.
No idea why that many people become personal. This is
the wheel, people use either bzr or
git, and not both for a reason; depending on a theoretical git serve
plugin is just asking for trouble.
The way I understood the proposal, bazaar would be the official dvcs and a
usable- albeit officially unsupported- git wrapper would be provided.
Assuming
2009/1/5 Ali Sabil ali.sa...@gmail.com:
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 11:33 PM, Olav Vitters o...@bkor.dhs.org wrote:
On Sun, Jan 04, 2009 at 05:29:02PM -0500, David Zeuthen wrote:
Uh, but that's exactly how I understood the proposal and I believe that
the points I made (that you didn't respond
:
Thank you for taking the GNOME DVCS Survey. This survey is run on
behalf
of the GNOME Foundation board of directors, release team, and sysadmin
team.
The GNOME project is planning a possible move from SVN to a distributed
version control system in 2009. The contenders
On Sun, 2009-01-04 at 20:32 +, Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro wrote:
On Sat, 2009-01-03 at 22:46 -0500, Behdad Esfahbod wrote:
In December I ran a distributed version control system survey for GNOME.
From the survey opening page:
Thank you for taking the GNOME DVCS Survey. This survey
First of all I want to thank Behdad and the participants of the survey
for giving us numbers.
Second I want to complain about the direction this discussion takes.
No idea why that many people become personal. This is really unpleasant.
Third of all: What so complicated about this migration? As
On Sun, Jan 04, 2009 at 06:34:47PM -0500, David Zeuthen wrote:
On Mon, 2009-01-05 at 00:18 +0100, Olav Vitters wrote:
I am not evading. Stop trying to make this personal. I don't care about
CoC, I don't like you're talking to me.
Please. Stop trying to make this look like it's personal and
Ali Sabil a écrit :
That's not what John's proposal is about ! John wants to use the bzr format
as a repository format, and add a git-serve plugin to bzr to be able to
talk to the git clients. In other words, you will be able to access the
same data using either bzr, git or hg.
Well, if people
On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 07:00:52AM -0700, Elijah Newren wrote:
I'd like to help with another path forward, namely native git
repositories since I believe that is what most of the community wants.
As you said, it isn't clear how it could work for non-sysadmins to
come up with clear proposal
. But again,
whatever.
++
I will close by saying that switching to Bazaar was an unbelievable
breath of fresh air after so much pain using Git. I wrote about that
briefly here:
http://research.operationaldynamics.com/blogs/andrew/software/version-control/git-is-like-cvs.html
I've been using DVCS systems
Hi,
[Disclaimer: I wasn't involved in the construction or running of the
survey, other than the analysis you saw plus some late feedback on the
survey questions (I think my feedback was merely to suggest the
other answer for contributor types.)]
2009/1/5 Andrew Cowie
On Sun, 04 Jan 2009 17:40:18 -0500 David Zeuthen da...@fubar.dk wrote:
Then what happens when a new version of git with a new feature,
incompatible with the git-serve kludge, is released?
I don't know if you've talked to the git developers, but
they're very firmly against adding any new
So, I'm not a GNOME contributor, but I am the author of VCI, a
Perl module that interacts with version control systems (currently CVS,
Svn, Hg, Git, and Bzr), and so I wanted to chime in a bit on this
thread.
The first thing to understand is that the git server protocol
is very
Elijah Newren did an initial analysis of the data. His analysis also includes
the survey questions and answers. Find it at:
http://blogs.gnome.org/newren/2009/01/03/gnome-dvcs-survey-results/
This is pretty decent analysis going on here :)
I'd like to remind people of John Carr's
would fulfil many of the requirements for
having a GNOME DVCS.
I'd like to point out that--of the 15 people who regularly use git and
bzr--git still won.
That isn't a contest. It is a survey.
http://www.gnome.org/~shaunm/survey/first-picks-permutations.png It
seems to me that a lot
is incomplete. As you said, the graph is about
people knowing two DVCS systems. I wouldn't say I knew 2. Those 6 are
incomplete.
I highlighted this statistical analysis because those 6 contain the
subset of 4 vocal users demanding that we /also/ support bzr.
Now before you reply: we have a clear
Not to be hostile, but please don't accuse me of holding anything up
or being a vocal minority. I have never spoken out, posted, or blogged
about any of the DVCS decisions.
I think I said in the survey I would prefer bzr, however I didn't
really care at the time (and much less since
Anyway, I'd rather add John Carr to the sysadmin team. I plan to make a
proposal to switch GNOME to a DVCS where Git works using Johns
suggestion. Then other sysadmins[1] can suggest whatever proposal they
want. These proposals can be investigated on merit and then a one can be
chosen (chosen
such things myself. Further, sysadmin
time is not so important.
Thank you for voicing your opinion.
just all move on?
Further, your explanation is incomplete. As you said, the graph is about
people knowing two DVCS systems. I wouldn't say I knew 2. Those 6 are
incomplete.
I
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 2:43 AM, Karl Lattimer k...@qdh.org.uk wrote:
Elijah Newren did an initial analysis of the data. His analysis also
includes
the survey questions and answers. Find it at:
http://blogs.gnome.org/newren/2009/01/03/gnome-dvcs-survey-results/
This is pretty decent
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 11:48 AM, John Carr john.c...@unrouted.co.uk wrote:
I'm not a complete idiot - if it was going to be a degraded,
bastardized form of Git I wouldn't waste my time on it. I suppose I
might be an evil genius stalling for Bazaar DS9 to be written (sorry
for the very bad joke
On Sat, 2009-01-03 at 22:46 -0500, Behdad Esfahbod wrote:
In December I ran a distributed version control system survey for GNOME.
From the survey opening page:
Thank you for taking the GNOME DVCS Survey. This survey is run on behalf
of the GNOME Foundation board of directors, release
On 1/4/09, Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro g...@inescporto.pt wrote:
Just in case I am forced to switch to git in the future (being open
minded here, although I prefer bazaar), does someone have any advice how
to generate a nice GNU style ChangeLog (like what emacs produces) from
git commit
2009-01-04 klockan 15:10 skrev Jason D. Clinton:
I'd like to point out that--of the 15 people who regularly use git and
bzr--git still won.
Two remarks.
First remark: In the survey I answered that I do not really know much about
git, and that I do not use it often. This has a reason, which I
On Sun, 2009-01-04 at 17:48 +, John Carr wrote:
As bkor has stated, there are lots of Git users so any implementation
will support you, and support you well. That is a requirement. So any
talk of my idea is not Git vs Bazaar, its talk of one way we can move
forward. So i dont consider it
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) zee...@gmail.com wrote:
How about we set-up a task-force of volunteers who would want to
help in the move, each volunteer promising at least 3 hours a week? 3
hours is a very small amount of time but I am hoping that we'll be
able to
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 3:59 PM, David Zeuthen da...@fubar.dk wrote:
On Sun, 2009-01-04 at 17:48 +, John Carr wrote:
As bkor has stated, there are lots of Git users so any implementation
will support you, and support you well. That is a requirement. So any
talk of my idea is not Git vs
2009/1/4 Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro g...@inescporto.pt:
Just in case I am forced to switch to git in the future (being open
minded here, although I prefer bazaar), does someone have any advice how
to generate a nice GNU style ChangeLog (like what emacs produces) from
git commit logs? I know
Hi!
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 6:06 PM, Olav Vitters o...@bkor.dhs.org wrote:
On Sun, Jan 04, 2009 at 09:40:33AM -0600, Jason D. Clinton wrote:
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 8:51 AM, Olav Vitters o...@bkor.dhs.org wrote:
Moving will not be easy, obviously. But doing it John's way will be,
in my
On Sun, 2009-01-04 at 23:01 +0200, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) wrote:
How about we set-up a task-force of volunteers who would want to
help in the move, each volunteer promising at least 3 hours a week? 3
hours is a very small amount of time but I am hoping that we'll be
able to gather at least 10
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Olav Vitters o...@bkor.dhs.org wrote:
I can commit that much time as long as there's clear delegation of
work by--preferably--the sysadmin team. I don't want to sit on a
committee that does a lot of deciding and no actual doing.
What do you mean with
David Zeuthen wrote:
On Sun, 2009-01-04 at 17:48 +, John Carr wrote:
As bkor has stated, there are lots of Git users so any implementation
will support you, and support you well. That is a requirement. So any
talk of my idea is not Git vs Bazaar, its talk of one way we can move
Il giorno dom, 04/01/2009 alle 16.11 -0500, Matthias Clasen ha scritto:
It seems pretty clear to me that any 'homegrown' system like this is
not suitable as a longterm, stable solution for a project the size of
gnome.
BTW, once switched to DVCS, how much disk space I should have in order
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 3:47 PM, Luca Ferretti elle@libero.it wrote:
bzr allows lightweight checkouts [1]. What about git?
Yes, it does. This is not an issue.
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On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 10:47 PM, Luca Ferretti elle@libero.it wrote:
People using JHBuild to develop one project against latest code or
simply testing the whole desktop don't need the full history for all
GNOME Desktop modules
bzr allows lightweight checkouts [1]. What about git?
.
BTW, once switched to DVCS, how much disk space I should have in order
to perform a full GNOME Desktop build with jhbuild? A WebKit build from
git needs ~740MB :-/
How much does it consume if it's a svn checkout? I heard (don't know
if it's true or not) git repo usually takes less diskspace
On Sun, 2009-01-04 at 22:47 +0100, Frederic Peters wrote:
Probably just like bzr already went through several repository formats
and allowed easy upgrades (just like Subversion repository format
changed and it didn't cause any problem for users). I don't think
there is a problem here.
I
this is
not suitable as a longterm, stable solution for a project the size of
gnome.
BTW, once switched to DVCS, how much disk space I should have in order
to perform a full GNOME Desktop build with jhbuild? A WebKit build from
git needs ~740MB :-/
How much does it consume if it's a svn
Jason D. Clinton wrote:
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 3:47 PM, Luca Ferretti elle@libero.it wrote:
bzr allows lightweight checkouts [1]. What about git?
Yes, it does. This is not an issue.
I think non-git users already knows that git can do everything™, but
they would learn about git ways
this is
not suitable as a longterm, stable solution for a project the size of
gnome.
BTW, once switched to DVCS, how much disk space I should have in order
to perform a full GNOME Desktop build with jhbuild? A WebKit build from
git needs ~740MB :-/
How much does it consume if it's a svn checkout? I
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Matthias Clasen schrieb:
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 3:59 PM, David Zeuthen da...@fubar.dk wrote:
On Sun, 2009-01-04 at 17:48 +, John Carr wrote:
As bkor has stated, there are lots of Git users so any implementation
will support you, and support
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 11:05 PM, David Zeuthen da...@fubar.dk wrote:
On Sun, 2009-01-04 at 22:47 +0100, Frederic Peters wrote:
Probably just like bzr already went through several repository formats
and allowed easy upgrades (just like Subversion repository format
changed and it didn't
David Zeuthen wrote:
I don't find this answer compelling. At all. It also doesn't answer the
question. It's not unlikely that a future git repo format is
fundamentally incompatible with current or future bzr repo formats.
Just like I noted it was just an understanding of John's proposal;
On Sun, 2009-01-04 at 23:16 +0100, Robin Sonefors wrote:
How much does it consume if it's a svn checkout? I heard (don't
know
if it's true or not) git repo usually takes less diskspace then svn
checkout. This page seems to support this claim:
A complete git repo is usually smaller than
:
It seems pretty clear to me that any 'homegrown' system like this is
not suitable as a longterm, stable solution for a project the size of
gnome.
BTW, once switched to DVCS, how much disk space I should have in order
to perform a full GNOME Desktop build with jhbuild? A WebKit build
On Sun, 2009-01-04 at 23:20 +0100, Ali Sabil wrote:
First, it only makes it much harder for users to grasp; we're
going to
end up with some projects have l.g.o pages / README files /
mailing list
messages saying use bzr to check out this branch and
On Sun, Jan 04, 2009 at 05:29:02PM -0500, David Zeuthen wrote:
Uh, but that's exactly how I understood the proposal and I believe that
the points I made (that you didn't respond to) still stands: That it's
crazy to officially want to support git, bzr and hg *at* the same time
*from* the same
On Sun, 2009-01-04 at 23:33 +0100, Olav Vitters wrote:
On Sun, Jan 04, 2009 at 05:29:02PM -0500, David Zeuthen wrote:
Uh, but that's exactly how I understood the proposal and I believe that
the points I made (that you didn't respond to) still stands: That it's
crazy to officially want to
.
The potential problem I see is all of the remote branches will use
different DVCS that do not support git + hg + bzr. So eventually all
Again: No Hg.
of us will be forced to use all three tools in order to merge changes
from remote branches (unless we expect *all* people to provide *all
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 11:33 PM, Olav Vitters o...@bkor.dhs.org wrote:
On Sun, Jan 04, 2009 at 05:29:02PM -0500, David Zeuthen wrote:
Uh, but that's exactly how I understood the proposal and I believe that
the points I made (that you didn't respond to) still stands: That it's
crazy to
but this
won't happen tommorow and I will need a huge amount of time to be
finished and tested. And in addition it's unlikely that such a system
will support more than a common subset of the features of the underlying
DVCS system.
First, be honest, we need to decide which system to use. I have
On Sun, 2009-01-04 at 23:58 +0100, Olav Vitters wrote:
On Sun, Jan 04, 2009 at 05:40:18PM -0500, David Zeuthen wrote:
Is it *really* so hard to understand that this whole git-serve is a
terrible idea?
You expect me to reply to this??!?
I expected you to reply to the other three mails
.
will support more than a common subset of the features of the underlying
DVCS system.
[..]
Second, a VCS system is something that just has to work. I doubt many
people really care a lot about what system they use as long as it does
No need to guess, we can look at the survey.
--
Regards
-- even as an optional repository
format.
ciao,
Emmanuele.
[0] I'm reasonably sure it has some. not as the one proposed to avoid
pissing off somebody somewhere because we want to be inclusive -- no,
lemme rephrase that: we are *fucking afraid of committment*. seriously:
an abstraction over DVCS
On Sun, Jan 04, 2009 at 06:05:30PM -0500, David Zeuthen wrote:
On Sun, 2009-01-04 at 23:58 +0100, Olav Vitters wrote:
On Sun, Jan 04, 2009 at 05:40:18PM -0500, David Zeuthen wrote:
Is it *really* so hard to understand that this whole git-serve is a
terrible idea?
You expect me to
. This is the only
repository format that all major DVCS clients can talk to.
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On Mon, 2009-01-05 at 00:18 +0100, Olav Vitters wrote:
I am not evading. Stop trying to make this personal. I don't care about
CoC, I don't like you're talking to me.
Please. Stop trying to make this look like it's personal and like I'm
assaulting you. Because I didn't. And I resent the
Le dimanche 04 janvier 2009 à 15:40 -0500, Diego Escalante Urrelo a
écrit :
On a side note here, I recalled being against dropping ChangeLogs in
projects in favour of commit messages. But now I love it and I realize
that my main problem was that with SVN I *needed* the ChangeLog since
that was
2009/1/5 Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org:
Le dimanche 04 janvier 2009 à 15:40 -0500, Diego Escalante Urrelo a
écrit :
On a side note here, I recalled being against dropping ChangeLogs in
projects in favour of commit messages. But now I love it and I realize
that my main problem was that with
On Mon, 2009-01-05 at 00:41 +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Le dimanche 04 janvier 2009 à 15:40 -0500, Diego Escalante Urrelo a
écrit :
On a side note here, I recalled being against dropping ChangeLogs in
projects in favour of commit messages. But now I love it and I realize
that my main
Le dimanche 04 janvier 2009 à 23:44 +, Emmanuele Bassi a écrit :
I'd agree if you could not properly see a project's commit history on a
web interface, like with viewvc for svn, but since you can:
http://git.clutter-project.org/cgit.cgi?url=clutter/log/
your point is moot.
Sorry,
:
an abstraction over DVCS? what have we become? are we *ever* going make
*any* decision about *anything*? this is actually a larger issue with
the GNOME community: we are being afraid.
Exactly. The idea that our gnome vcs infrastructure would be run by some
homegrown abstraction layer is rather
Hi!
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 1:04 AM, Vincent Untz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Le lundi 17 novembre 2008, à 17:56 -0500, Behdad Esfahbod a écrit :
Owen Taylor wrote:
Question for gnome-infrastructure: How do we move forward on it? Do we
have an easier alternative at hand then just writing
Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) wrote:
So you already on it or you are waiting for someone to get you th
list of svn accounts? If latter is the case, It's pretty easily doable
using git but unfortunately the dates in the git repos created through
git-svn aren't correct (or it seems to be the case).
On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 12:25 AM, Behdad Esfahbod [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) wrote:
So you already on it or you are waiting for someone to get you th
list of svn accounts? If latter is the case, It's pretty easily doable
using git but unfortunately the dates in the git
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 11:25 PM, Behdad Esfahbod [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Good timing. I'm working on it. Have a draft of the survey itself. I'm
installing a PHP-based survey software now. Then will pass the survey by
board, r-t, and sysadmin team, then go about asking people to fill in.
On Thu, Dec 04, 2008 at 05:25:58PM -0500, Behdad Esfahbod wrote:
Good timing. I'm working on it. Have a draft of the survey itself. I'm
installing a PHP-based survey software now. Then will pass the survey by
board, r-t, and sysadmin team, then go about asking people to fill in. Have
not
continuing to use Bazaar if Git win and vice verse.
GNOME is by nature a distributed project with a lot of sub modules,
maintainers and thus preferences.
I think that is doubtful. Most people do not care what VCS GNOME uses.
For those who care, and like DVCS, their opinions are probably
something
Le lundi 17 novembre 2008, à 17:56 -0500, Behdad Esfahbod a écrit :
Owen Taylor wrote:
Question for gnome-infrastructure: How do we move forward on it? Do we
have an easier alternative at hand then just writing low-tech one off
application?
I was thinking that we can either use the
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