Re: GNOME 2.26 module inclusion discussion heats up

2009-01-19 Thread Patryk Zawadzki
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Rodrigo Moya rodr...@gnome-db.org wrote: On Fri, 2009-01-16 at 10:55 -0500, Matthias Clasen wrote: On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 8:27 AM, Rodrigo Moya rodr...@gnome-db.org wrote: yeah, I agree with you, I think both should be the same (an applet or an icon), so

Re: GNOME 2.26 module inclusion discussion heats up

2009-01-19 Thread Vincent Untz
Le lundi 19 janvier 2009, à 11:30 +0100, Patryk Zawadzki a écrit : Wouldn't it be easier to convert the old applet to also use a tray icon? This way no useless applet needs to stay in the memory (due to the fact applets have no programmatical way to add or remove themselves at run time). Or

Re: GNOME 2.26 module inclusion discussion heats up

2009-01-19 Thread Rodrigo Moya
On Fri, 2009-01-16 at 10:55 -0500, Matthias Clasen wrote: On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 8:27 AM, Rodrigo Moya rodr...@gnome-db.org wrote: yeah, I agree with you, I think both should be the same (an applet or an icon), so since we already have the applet, I guess it would make sense to add code

Re: GNOME 2.26 module inclusion discussion heats up

2009-01-19 Thread Rodrigo Moya
On Fri, 2009-01-16 at 17:35 +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Fri, 16.01.09 17:12, Josselin Mouette (j...@debian.org) wrote: Le vendredi 16 janvier 2009 à 10:55 -0500, Matthias Clasen a écrit : But this is not a runtime decision. Either your distro is using pulseaudio (and it should)

Re: GNOME 2.26 module inclusion discussion heats up

2009-01-19 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
2009/1/19 Xavier Bestel xavier.bes...@free.fr: On Mon, 2009-01-19 at 12:32 +0200, Peteris Krisjanis wrote: What really PA needs is some kind of great switch for advanced/troubled users. I admit I wasn't found about PA in the past, but now it works. Sure it has quirks but it is really nice

Re: GNOME 2.26 module inclusion discussion heats up

2009-01-19 Thread Xavier Bestel
On Mon, 2009-01-19 at 12:32 +0200, Peteris Krisjanis wrote: What really PA needs is some kind of great switch for advanced/troubled users. I admit I wasn't found about PA in the past, but now it works. Sure it has quirks but it is really nice feature to Free Desktop. There are still cases

Re: Dependency bump for GGZ

2009-01-19 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le dimanche 18 janvier 2009 à 14:52 -0600, Jason D. Clinton a écrit : On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Jason D. Clinton m...@jasonclinton.com wrote: Gnome Games has bumped the GGZ dependency from 0.0.14 to 0.99.5 due to this library breaking API. It appears that no distro. (at least Debian

Re: Evolution/MAPI

2009-01-19 Thread Frederic Peters
Hello Sri! Srinivasa Ragavan wrote: So you want to use something which is between libmapi-0.7 and libmapi-0.8? I think that's something we'd like to avoid. Some update here, Julien, the maintainer of libmapi, offered help for us to help to migrate to 0.8/trunk code of OpenChange.

Re: GNOME 2.26 module inclusion discussion heats up

2009-01-19 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le lundi 19 janvier 2009 à 11:21 +0100, Rodrigo Moya a écrit : you're right about the resources taken by the hidden applet, but as you see, Debian, openSUSE and Mandriva need ways to offer users a fallback, so we really need it. If there's a better solution than hiding the applet, let's use

Re: GNOME 2.26 module inclusion discussion heats up

2009-01-19 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 19.01.09 14:33, Josselin Mouette (j...@debian.org) wrote: Le lundi 19 janvier 2009 à 11:21 +0100, Rodrigo Moya a écrit : you're right about the resources taken by the hidden applet, but as you see, Debian, openSUSE and Mandriva need ways to offer users a fallback, so we really need

Re: GNOME 2.26 module inclusion discussion heats up

2009-01-19 Thread Frederic Peters
Lennart Poettering wrote: Yes, there’s a quicker way: restore the full GStreamer-based panel applet. Contrarily to gnome-volume-control, there’s not much gain in using PA in the applet. Oh, is that so? This is some old Topaz mockup:

Re: Evolution/MAPI

2009-01-19 Thread Srinivasa Ragavan
Hey Frederic, On Mon, 2009-01-19 at 13:44 +0100, Frederic Peters wrote: Hello Sri! Srinivasa Ragavan wrote: So you want to use something which is between libmapi-0.7 and libmapi-0.8? I think that's something we'd like to avoid. Some update here, Julien, the maintainer of

Re: how I write GTK+ theme?

2009-01-19 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On 01/18/2009 09:19 PM, Davyd Madeley wrote: I'm trying to get a feel for how hard it would be to write a tool similar to the Java Swing theme Napkin: http://napkinlaf.sourceforge.net/ This would be awesome. I've always thought Napkin was a good idea for customer prototypes. Was it Kathy

Re: Dependency bump for GGZ

2009-01-19 Thread Jason D. Clinton
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 5:41 AM, Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org wrote: Le dimanche 18 janvier 2009 à 14:52 -0600, Jason D. Clinton a écrit : On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Jason D. Clinton m...@jasonclinton.com wrote: Gnome Games has bumped the GGZ dependency from 0.0.14 to 0.99.5 due to

Re: GNOME 2.26 module inclusion discussion heats up

2009-01-19 Thread Jason D. Clinton
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 8:46 AM, Lennart Poettering mzta...@0pointer.de wrote: Oh, is that so? This is some old Topaz mockup: http://farm1.static.flickr.com/20/70003494_668cfdc0dd.jpg Your attitude is making it really hard to take sides with PA. Yes, it's *the* only way forward at the

Re: how I write GTK+ theme?

2009-01-19 Thread Benjamin Berg
On Mon, 2009-01-19 at 05:19 +, Davyd Madeley wrote: I'm trying to get a feel for how hard it would be to write a tool similar to the Java Swing theme Napkin: http://napkinlaf.sourceforge.net/ I have thought about writing this like two years ago, but never got around to actually start it

Re: GNOME 2.26 module inclusion discussion heats up

2009-01-19 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Mon, 2009-01-19 at 14:33 +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le lundi 19 janvier 2009 à 11:21 +0100, Rodrigo Moya a écrit : you're right about the resources taken by the hidden applet, but as you see, Debian, openSUSE and Mandriva need ways to offer users a fallback, so we really need it. If

Re: GNOME 2.26 module inclusion discussion heats up

2009-01-19 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Mon, 2009-01-19 at 12:10 -0600, Jason D. Clinton wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 8:46 AM, Lennart Poettering mzta...@0pointer.de wrote: Oh, is that so? This is some old Topaz mockup: http://farm1.static.flickr.com/20/70003494_668cfdc0dd.jpg Your attitude is making it really hard

Re: how I write GTK+ theme?

2009-01-19 Thread Natan Yellin
2009/1/19 Benjamin Berg benja...@sipsolutions.net On Mon, 2009-01-19 at 05:19 +, Davyd Madeley wrote: I'm trying to get a feel for how hard it would be to write a tool similar to the Java Swing theme Napkin: http://napkinlaf.sourceforge.net/ I have thought about writing this like two

Re: Evolution/MAPI

2009-01-19 Thread Srinivasa Ragavan
Frederic, On Mon, 2009-01-19 at 21:35 +0530, Srinivasa Ragavan wrote: Hey Frederic, On Mon, 2009-01-19 at 13:44 +0100, Frederic Peters wrote: Hello Sri! Srinivasa Ragavan wrote: So you want to use something which is between libmapi-0.7 and libmapi-0.8? I think that's

Re: Evolution/MAPI

2009-01-19 Thread Suman Manjunath
On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 09:01, Srinivasa Ragavan sraga...@novell.com wrote: Some update here, Julien, the maintainer of libmapi, offered help for us to help to migrate to 0.8/trunk code of OpenChange. Infact he as cooked a patch already, that makes it would against libmapi trunk. So,