Re: Request for removing clutter in current form

2009-08-16 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On Sun, 2009-08-16 at 23:55 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi wrote: On Sun, 2009-08-16 at 12:12 +0200, Maciej Piechotka wrote: I'm sorry I'm posting it on wrong list. yes, you probably wanted to mail to desktop-devel-list instead of gnome-devel. Ups. Sorry. I'm usuing currently Gnome 2.27.x

Re: Request for removing clutter in current form

2009-08-17 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On Mon, 2009-08-17 at 07:53 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi wrote: On Mon, 2009-08-17 at 07:48 +0200, Maciej Piechotka wrote: I'd like to point out, though, that innovation cannot be driven by looking at the past; if GNOME, and the Linux desktop, want to be relevant with the users of today

Re: Request for removing clutter in current form

2009-08-17 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On Sun, 2009-08-16 at 23:55 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi wrote: I'm usuing currently Gnome 2.27.x and I've become worried about new dependency - clutter. OpenGL traditionally have been problematic on GNU/Linux, not mentioning other *nixes. Many cards are only partially supported and/or

Re: New module proposal: tracker

2009-08-18 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 17:20 +0200, Patryk Zawadzki wrote: On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 5:18 PM, Jamie McCrackenjamie.mccr...@googlemail.com wrote: The indexer part is optional The main part tracker-store is just a database with querying and is to be used by zeitgeist If the consensus is

Re: New module proposal: tracker

2009-08-18 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 18:24 +0300, Xan Lopez wrote: On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Lennart Poetteringmzta...@0pointer.de wrote: On Tue, 18.08.09 11:18, Jamie McCracken (jamie.mccr...@googlemail.com) wrote: The indexer part is optional The main part tracker-store is just a

Re: New module proposal: tracker

2009-08-18 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 13:05 +0100, Martyn Russell wrote: Hi all, So we recently polled the tracker mailing list to make sure the core developers and others interested had an opinion on GNOME module inclusion for Tracker. You can see the thread here:

Re: New module proposal: tracker

2009-08-18 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 18:24 +0200, Rodrigo Moya wrote: On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 18:16 +0200, Maciej Piechotka wrote: On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 13:05 +0100, Martyn Russell wrote: Hi all, So we recently polled the tracker mailing list to make sure the core developers and others interested

Re: New module proposal: tracker

2009-08-18 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 18:41 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Tue, 18.08.09 18:16, Maciej Piechotka (uzytkown...@gmail.com) wrote: Licensing wise, those libinotify and rasqal both share the LGPL, as does libtracker. The rest is GPLv2 or later. /discuss ;) Well

Re: New module proposal: tracker

2009-08-18 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 15:12 -0400, Jamie McCracken wrote: On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 20:57 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Tue, 18.08.09 14:48, Jamie McCracken (jamie.mccr...@googlemail.com) wrote: On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 20:26 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote: Le mardi 18 août 2009, à 20:19

Re: Tracker, Zeitgeist, Couchdb...where is the problem ?

2009-08-18 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 16:48 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: I think this recent discussion about tracker as a gnome module is somewhat backwards. I don't think it is leading us anywhere to talk about ontologies and rdf and events and timelines and metadata stores and kernel apis before we answer

Re: Enabling automake silent-rules by default

2009-08-28 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On Fri, 2009-08-28 at 14:06 -0400, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: Hi, Many modules have already been adding support for automake silent rules, but turned off by default. I just pushed changes to pango and vte to enable silent rules by default. That's a much saner default, and allows catching

Re: Enabling automake silent-rules by default

2009-08-28 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On Fri, 2009-08-28 at 14:56 -0400, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: On 08/28/2009 02:56 PM, Maciej Piechotka wrote: On Fri, 2009-08-28 at 14:06 -0400, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: Hi, Many modules have already been adding support for automake silent rules, but turned off by default. I just

Re: Bump minimum version of poppler to 0.12.0

2009-09-10 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On Thu, 2009-09-10 at 11:06 +0200, Carlos Garcia Campos wrote: Poppler 0.12 is the new stable release. Although it doesn't add any new API and evince builds with earlier versions, I suggest to bump the minimum version because this release includes a lot of important rendering and performance

RE: Waiting for GNOME 2.30 (=3.0)

2009-09-12 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On Sat, 2009-09-12 at 17:39 +0100, Uros Nedic wrote: Thank you for answer. When someone joined on this list for only a month, it is very hard to track everything what has been discussed. Some digest like this always helps. Regarding 3D, do you plan to implement Gallium3D approach or you

Sound system - user perspective

2009-09-13 Thread Maciej Piechotka
I spotted an area in which Gnome desktop can offer better user experience. Imagine I use VoIP (skype, empathy or anything like that) and some music player (Banshee, Rhythmbox etc.). I listen to some music or a podcast when someone ring. I have to stop the music and answer the phone. However I

Autostart programs made easy

2009-09-13 Thread Maciej Piechotka
Sorry for posting two posts one after another. I do so as they are on different topics. If I should do it in one post - please just say so I'll do it such way in future. I always found adding new startup programs a bit tricky. I need to fill several fields to create new .desktop file. However

Re: Sound system - user perspective

2009-09-13 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On Sun, 2009-09-13 at 20:11 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Sun, 13.09.09 19:18, Maciej Piechotka (uzytkown...@gmail.com) wrote: I spotted an area in which Gnome desktop can offer better user experience. Imagine I use VoIP (skype, empathy or anything like that) and some music

Re: Request for removing clutter in current form

2009-09-13 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On Mon, 2009-08-17 at 07:43 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi wrote: On Mon, 2009-08-17 at 08:03 +0200, Xavier Bestel wrote: Le dimanche 16 août 2009 à 23:55 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi a écrit : the majority of GPUs, nowadays, work fine on Linux with open source drivers[1], and provide the basic

Re: Bump minimum version of poppler to 0.12.0

2009-09-16 Thread Maciej Piechotka
Am Donnerstag, den 10.09.2009, 13:20 +0200 schrieb Maciej Piechotka: Isn't this version of poppler breaking some packages from texlive? Any bug report ID? andre It was masked in portage. Now it is unmasked so It's either fixed in Gentoo or upstream. Anyway - patch exists. Regards

Re: Project Proposal: GNOME Innovation

2009-09-30 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On Wed, 2009-09-30 at 12:20 -0600, Wolter Hellmund wrote: Greetings, I am a new member of the GNOME contributors community. In the following message, I will suggest the creation of a new project entitled GNOME Innovation in HTML format for easier comprehension. Please use ASCII. Some

Re: Project Proposal: GNOME Innovation

2009-09-30 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On Wed, 2009-09-30 at 13:57 -0500, Shaun McCance wrote: On Wed, 2009-09-30 at 20:40 +0200, Maciej Piechotka wrote: On Wed, 2009-09-30 at 12:20 -0600, Wolter Hellmund wrote: Greetings, I am a new member of the GNOME contributors community. In the following message, I

Re: Project Proposal: GNOME Innovation

2009-09-30 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On Wed, 2009-09-30 at 13:11 -0600, Wolter Hellmund wrote: Well, I am really sorry for using HTML. I thought it would be liked. Ups. Sorry if I was too mean. I'm just somehow old-style person who still uses USENET ;) AFAIK HTML in email is not liked very much among at least some old-style

Re: What does gnome-shell give us?

2009-10-02 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On Fri, 2009-10-02 at 14:38 -0500, Shaun McCance wrote: On Fri, 2009-10-02 at 18:56 +, Colin Walters wrote: On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 6:46 PM, Shaun McCance sha...@gnome.org wrote: On Fri, 2009-10-02 at 18:37 +, Colin Walters wrote: *

Re: What does gnome-shell give us?

2009-10-02 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On Sat, 2009-10-03 at 00:03 +0200, Rodrigo Moya wrote: On Fri, 2009-10-02 at 20:57 +0100, Maciej Piechotka wrote: In fact I'm not able to think about 1 application which I'd like to have on one workspace the only few I can think of are some that you really want 1 instance of: * mail

Re: Module proposal: dconf

2009-10-14 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 11:46 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi wrote: everyone asking for a plain text format (or even an XML format) for *storage* should be forced to get only that on their machines, but should also be barred from complaining why their boot process takes a minute instead of 10 seconds.

Re: Module proposal: dconf

2009-10-14 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 15:54 +0100, Alan Cox wrote: Sorry if I not made it clear - I'm against putting everything in binary which does not mean that binary format is ultimately evil. Probably XML is not the easiest format to parse. I am still a bit 'scared' by idea of binary format unless it is

Re: Udisks, Upower, external deps and jhbuild

2010-03-17 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On Wed, 2010-03-17 at 16:05 +0100, Luca Ferretti wrote: udisks[1] and upower[2] have now a tarball release; what should we do on 2.30 external deps page[3]? Should them replace or put beside DeviceKit-* ? Here is any official module still using DeviceKit-* ? Plus, any idea about JHbuild? I

Re: GSoC Proposal: Scripting Framework for Applications

2010-04-06 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On Tue, 2010-04-06 at 18:24 +0200, Johannes Schmid wrote: Hi! I am not entirely sure but my guess is adding support for another language would require modifications to all the applications individually that want its support to be included. As far as I have read (I apologize if I am

Re: Module Proposal: Zeitgeist

2010-04-26 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On Sun, 2010-04-25 at 19:01 -0500, Cody Russell wrote: On Sun, 2010-04-25 at 22:44 +0200, Patryk Zawadzki wrote: On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 7:59 PM, Curtis Hovey sinzui...@verizon.net wrote: My suggestion is to support the Zeitgeist's community's culture of code reviews. GNOME does not

Re: external dependency review

2010-05-14 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On Thu, 2010-05-13 at 18:11 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: hal used by tracker (?), suggested by others - drop ? Hal is unmaintained and obsolete since some time already. Anything should switch to udisks/upower/(g)udev (however there might be problems with non-linux

Re: Versioned symbols for 3.0?

2010-05-22 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On Sun, 2010-05-23 at 01:11 +0900, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le mardi 18 mai 2010 à 12:32 -0400, Behdad Esfahbod a écrit : As for not wanting to use versioned symbols, could you provide more information why such a decision was made? I can't speak for Matthias, but I guess it's because

Re: New external dependencies for Rygel: GUPnP Libgee

2010-06-08 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On Tue, 2010-06-08 at 02:24 +0300, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) wrote: Hi Frederic, Thanks for the very quick reply. My reply below: On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 1:52 AM, Frederic Peters fpet...@gnome.org wrote: General questions first: - Are there frequent releases of those? The GUPnP

Re: Call to maintainers: GNOME 2.31 to ship GTK 2.90

2010-06-15 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On Tue, 2010-06-15 at 09:36 -0400, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: On 06/15/2010 09:27 AM, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le mardi 15 juin 2010 à 08:21 -0400, Behdad Esfahbod a écrit : So, my application uses libraries A and B. It takes a GtkWidget from A, and passes it to a function in B. If A links

A few notes about the direction in which gnome desktop is going

2010-07-01 Thread Maciej Piechotka
First of all I'd like to say that I'm not usability specialist (I'm not event 'normal' user - I'm closer to power user). However after some time of using the gnome-shell I noted a few problems - and they are more the minor problems (I believe) in design rather that 'bugs' so I decided to post it

Gnome-shell and usability (from user perspective)

2010-07-03 Thread Maciej Piechotka
First of all I'd like to say that I'm not usability specialist (I'm not event 'normal' user - I'm closer to power user). However after some time of using the gnome-shell (from about GNOME 2.27.x) I noted a few problems - and they are more the minor problems (I believe) in design rather that

Re: Gnome-shell and usability (from user perspective)

2010-07-04 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On 04/07/2010 12:54, Johannes Schmid wrote: Hi! Am Samstag, den 03.07.2010, 12:58 +0200 schrieb Maciej Piechotka: First of all I'd like to say that I'm not usability specialist (I'm not event 'normal' user - I'm closer to power user). However after some time of using the gnome-shell (from

Re: Converting libraries and plugins to use gtk3

2010-07-05 Thread Maciej Piechotka
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 On 11/06/10 14:28, Alexander Larsson wrote: Any library that links to gtk+, gdk or gdk-pixbuf, that switches to gtk3 will need to have the new version be separate from and parallel installable with the old version. If this is not done then

Re: (L)GPLv3

2010-07-06 Thread Maciej Piechotka
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 On 06/07/10 15:12, j...@jsschmid.de wrote: Hi! hi Vincent, On Tue, 2010-07-06 at 09:26 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote: Do you feel okay with the idea of allowing proprietary apps to use our platform but not GPLv2 apps? In short, yes.

Re: (L)GPLv3

2010-07-09 Thread Maciej Piechotka
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 On 09/07/10 16:37, Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller wrote: I would strongly prefer glib to not change its license, we are keeping the lgplv2.1 in GStreamer, partly because a lot of people making products with GStreamer prefer it over lgplv3.

Re: Bump min vala version to 0.9.3

2010-07-15 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On 15/07/10 01:18, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) wrote: Hi, The new vala release contains some improvements to glib API that breaks rygel's build so I would like to use vala 0.9.3 in the next release. libgee 0.5.2 will and current master do require that version. Regards signature.asc

Re: GNOME 3.0 in March 2011

2010-08-05 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On 28/07/10 15:48, Frederic Peters wrote: Hello all, A few release team members talked with various people during the first few days at GUADEC to get a better feeling of where we stand on our road to GNOME 3.0. We held a meeting later and decided that GNOME 3.0 should be postponed to March

Re: 2.91 tarballs?

2010-08-09 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On Mon, 2010-08-09 at 15:39 +0100, Richard Hughes wrote: On 9 August 2010 14:15, Vincent Untz vu...@gnome.org wrote: You can release 2.90.x (not sure why you'd want 2.91 before 2.90 ;-)). Some modules already have such versions. 90 is an even number, and thus 'stable', surely? Richard.

Gnome 2.32, Gnome 3.0 gtk 2.90.6 from alpha (pre-alpha?) user point of view

2010-09-08 Thread Maciej Piechotka
I am sorry if it is not correct mailing list however I didn't found better for describing problems with testing Gnome 2.90 due to release process. I tried for some time keep parallel gtk+ 2.x and 3.x install testing new packages with gtk+ 3.0. However it became increasingly hard: - Sometimes

Re: G/tkApplication

2010-10-19 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On Tue, 2010-10-19 at 10:01 +0100, Richard Hughes wrote: On 19 October 2010 00:44, Ryan Lortie de...@desrt.ca wrote: The upshot, though, is probably that quite some application that were making use of the old GApplication have stopped working. So... what versions of gtk+ and glib should

Re: (not) proposing Snowy for GNOME 3.0

2010-10-22 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On Fri, 2010-10-22 at 12:27 +0200, Rodrigo Moya wrote: On Thu, 2010-10-21 at 21:35 -0700, Sandy Armstrong wrote: == GNOME Web Platform == There is no GNOME web platform. There are no new libraries being proposed for use by all GNOME web modules. It feels way too early to try to

Re: gnome-spidermonkey?

2010-12-10 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On Fri, 2010-12-10 at 13:16 -0500, Colin Walters wrote: Basically, I want us to be decoupled from this; there are conceptually actually 4 layers. NSPR - spidermonkey - xulrunner - firefox Where - is depends on. Right now at least Fedora ships like: NSPR - (spidermonkey xulrunner

Re: gnome-spidermonkey?

2010-12-11 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On Sat, 2010-12-11 at 08:33 +0100, Frederic Crozat wrote: 2010/12/11 Maciej Piechotka uzytkown...@gmail.com: On Fri, 2010-12-10 at 13:16 -0500, Colin Walters wrote: Basically, I want us to be decoupled from this; there are conceptually actually 4 layers. NSPR - spidermonkey - xulrunner

Re: Re: gnome-panel gnome-applets?

2010-12-29 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On Tue, 2010-12-28 at 15:19 -0800, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: It will be important to get people writing extensions before the release happens i think. (sorry went into marketing mode...!) I take the liberty of saying that as person who tried to write an extension (some time ago): - Lack of

Re: Re: gnome-panel gnome-applets?

2010-12-29 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On Wed, 2010-12-29 at 13:41 -0800, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 4:08 AM, Maciej Piechotka uzytkown...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 2010-12-28 at 15:19 -0800, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: It will be important to get people writing extensions

Re: My thoughts on fallback mode

2011-01-03 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On Mon, 2011-01-03 at 15:09 -0800, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: 2011/1/3 Mario Blättermann mari...@gnome.org Am Montag, den 03.01.2011, 13:37 -0500 schrieb Owen Taylor: There will also be some people that want to use gnome-panel because they aren't ready

Re: My thoughts on fallback mode

2011-01-04 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On Tue, 2011-01-04 at 18:37 +0100, Gendre Sebastien wrote: - Gnome Shell are no modular. It's need to separate the Shell from the window manager. Each window have to be managed by the window manager and Shell menu and panels by the Shell. With actually Gnome Shell, the non-modularity imposes

Re: My thoughts on fallback mode

2011-01-04 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On Tue, 2011-01-04 at 20:37 +0100, Wouter Bolsterlee wrote: Emmanuele Bassi schreef op di 04-01-2011 om 00:14 [+]: Still being able to type weird characters I count three ways of doing that: • Ctrl + Shift + U + hexadecimal. • Compose key. • Character Map Let me add

Re: My thoughts on fallback mode

2011-01-04 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On Tue, 2011-01-04 at 20:58 +0100, Wouter Bolsterlee wrote: Maciej Piechotka schreef op di 04-01-2011 om 20:43 [+0100]: On Tue, 2011-01-04 at 20:37 +0100, Wouter Bolsterlee wrote: Let me add convenient for frequent use to my original phrasing and my point still holds. I believe

Re: Proposal: Moving d-d-l to moderated until after GNOME 3 release

2011-01-07 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On Fri, 2011-01-07 at 18:37 +0100, Dave Neary wrote: In particular, note the following mailing lists: * gnome-annouce-list - all software announcements * gnome-list - discussions/questions about how to use GNOME Does gnome-list cover the design process of user experience?

Re: GNOME community survey

2011-01-07 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On Fri, 2011-01-07 at 13:45 -0800, Germán Póo-Caamaño wrote: Since people from Others section also got the invitation (like me), I wonder, whether the results of the questions regarding making GNOME better and the effort taken into GNOME may become a bit inapropriate, as those aren't

Re: Planned GNOME Shell UI changes (was Re: String and UI Change Announcement)

2011-01-10 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On Mon, 2011-01-10 at 19:03 +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le lundi 10 janvier 2011 à 12:33 -0500, Owen Taylor a écrit : * UI will be added for displaying information about fallback mode and forcing fallback mode when the system seems capable of doing a full composited desktop.

Re: Cantarell? (Was: Re: Planned GNOME Shell UI changes (was Re: String and UI Change Announcement))

2011-01-12 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On Wed, 2011-01-12 at 11:53 +, Allan Day wrote: Andrew Cowie wrote: On Mon, 2011-01-10 at 12:33 -0500, Owen Taylor wrote: * The default font will be changing to Cantarell Cantarell? If Cantarell is this, http://abattis.org/cantarell/ which says As my very first

IRC channels in gnome development

2011-02-05 Thread Maciej Piechotka
IRC channels seems to be used in gnome development. It may be just me but I believe that recent power setting crisis show (I contrast them to mailing lists): - Requires presence. Many people cannot afford being on irc 24/7 - both developers, potential developers or just interested users. The

Re: IRC channels in gnome development

2011-02-05 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On Sat, 2011-02-05 at 11:43 -0600, Paul Cutler wrote: You're asking to change the way things have been done for years - which isn't an argument to not do things that way, but just pointing it ou. However, the GNOME Design team has regular office hours in IRC where everyone is welcome to

Re: IRC channels in gnome development

2011-02-05 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On 05/02/2011 21:55, Jason D. Clinton wrote: On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 13:43, Maciej Piechotka uzytkown...@gmail.com wrote: While it might be a stretch analogy but some people argue in various companies (not every company and it may be argued how good the policy is) to open the discussion/design

Re: IRC channels in gnome development

2011-02-05 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On Sun, 2011-02-06 at 02:52 +0100, Olav Vitters wrote: On Sat, Feb 05, 2011 at 05:25:08PM +, Maciej Piechotka wrote: Could there be a recommendation against discussion of important decisions on IRC? While I understand that it may slow down process probably but it would improve developer

Re: IRC channels in gnome development

2011-02-05 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On Sun, 2011-02-06 at 03:13 +0100, Olav Vitters wrote: On Sun, Feb 06, 2011 at 02:02:10AM +, Maciej Piechotka wrote: On Sun, 2011-02-06 at 02:52 +0100, Olav Vitters wrote: On Sat, Feb 05, 2011 at 05:25:08PM +, Maciej Piechotka wrote: Could there be a recommendation against

Re: IRC channels in gnome development

2011-02-06 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On 06/02/2011 14:13, Gendre Sebastien wrote: Le samedi 05 février 2011 à 11:43 -0600, Paul Cutler a écrit : Development is not a democracy For a personal project, no. But Gnome is not your personal project, it's a community project. Even if the practice shows that it is good to have

Re: IRC channels in gnome development

2011-02-06 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On 06/02/2011 13:46, Andreas Nilsson wrote: All designs goes in the wiki though and most (if not all) also live in this repo http://gitorious.org/gnome-design As I said - there is difference between the result and process. There have been stated that the design team studied the topic but

Re: IRC channels in gnome development

2011-02-06 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On 06/02/2011 14:27, Allan Day wrote: Hi, Maciej Piechotka wrote: FLAMEThen show delyourdelinsdesign team/ins work! All I'm hearing is that research have been done and the issue have been taken into consideration during disussion but I DON'T have any references. I cannot see logs of IRC

Re: IRC channels in gnome development

2011-02-06 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On Sun, 2011-02-06 at 22:39 +0100, Andreas Nilsson wrote: I really, really, want the communication channels fixed though. It looked like Maciej wanted to put some time into working on fixing this too, hence why I asked for the help. While I fully understand why the help is expected from me

Re: Git: Do not use http to access Git!

2011-02-17 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On 17/02/2011 13:07, Olav Vitters wrote: On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 01:53:12PM +0100, Juan Jesús Ojeda Croissier wrote: I agree. That has happened to me as well. I understand the performance issues, but not to have a http acces to the clones, could be blocker issue for some people. Just

Re: And about graphics card switch?

2011-02-28 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On Mon, 2011-02-28 at 23:47 +0100, Gendre Sebastien wrote: Hello everybody. _o/ I have looked at bugzilla and live.gnome.org, but I don't see any plans about managment of 2 graphics card. In some laptop, we have 2 graphics card: A small and a big. Recent Linux kernel supports to ON/OFF

Re: GNOME 3.2 ideas and plans

2011-03-22 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On Tue, 2011-03-22 at 18:00 +0100, Gendre Sebastien wrote: Le mardi 22 mars 2011 à 17:13 +0100, Alexander Larsson a écrit : It would be nice to have some level of integration with web applications in the desktop. For instance, I would like to update my facebook status or tweet easily

Re: empathy integration with the desktop

2011-03-29 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On Tue, 2011-03-29 at 10:46 -0700, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 2:15 AM, Pierre Benz benz.pie...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 11:11 AM, Pierre Benz benz.pie...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 11:01 AM, Johannes Schmid j...@jsschmid.de wrote:

Re: empathy integration with the desktop

2011-03-30 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On Tue, 2011-03-29 at 20:58 +0300, Jens Georg wrote: On Tue, 2011-03-29 at 19:53 +0200, Maciej Piechotka wrote: It should be Available or Unavailable why you're unavailable could be a secondary status.. but in general it should be those two statuses. sri Possibly also

Re: Archiving 120 Git modules with no commit in 3 or more years

2011-04-06 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On Tue, 2011-04-05 at 18:07 +0200, Olav Vitters wrote: On Tue, Apr 05, 2011 at 09:33:47AM +0900, Tristan Van Berkom wrote: On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 9:17 AM, Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl wrote: Checking the last commits of the modules on git.gnome.org, I noticed we have 120 modules which

Re: 3.2: gjs/seed

2011-04-21 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On Wed, 2011-04-20 at 19:12 -0400, Colin Walters wrote: and for 6) I think we need to change this anyways. This leaves reason Speaking as user of epiphany on webkit - it is now terribly broken. Certificate handling is broken since 2009 (1.5 years now) which is security bug as it allows to

Re: 3.2: gjs/seed

2011-04-21 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On Thu, 2011-04-21 at 10:38 +0200, Maciej Piechotka wrote: One thing I'm not totally happy with is the organic growth in API in both seed and gjs. seed for example added an os module with e.g. fork which I think is totally wrong; it's just broken to fork() a GNOME app, since it conflicts

Re: 3.2: gjs/seed

2011-04-21 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On Thu, 2011-04-21 at 18:31 +0530, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: Just a small correction here. On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Maciej Piechotka uzytkown...@gmail.com wrote: 7) Embedding Mozilla engine stopped being supported. https://lwn.net/Articles/436440/ https://lwn.net/Articles

Re: Gnome 3.0: Recommendations wanted for building on LFS 6.8

2011-05-01 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On Sat, 2011-04-30 at 16:15 -0700, bsquared wrote: On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 2:00 PM, Maciej Piechotka uzytkown...@gmail.com wrote: The Gentoo ebuilds may prove useful. GNOME 3 is in overlay. Regards Thanks, I'm not sure what that means. I have no experience with Gentoo's

Re: Flash plugin disabled in Epiphany 3.0?

2011-05-01 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On Sun, 2011-05-01 at 20:02 +0300, pec...@gmail.com wrote: I read in changelogs that in 2.91.4 Flash plugin was blacklisted in Epiphany. Is there any info was it unlisted? Or blocking is still in place? I mention this because Flash doesn't work in Fedora 15 beta using Epiphany. Cheers,

Re: Open containing folder for all apps

2011-05-10 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On 10/05/2011 00:29, Federico Mena Quintero wrote: Hi, all, Per André's request to post features for Gnome 3.2 - here goes. A while ago I blogged about the problem of lack of circulation in our files, and posted a patch for Evince: http://people.gnome.org/~federico/news-2010-08.html#19

Re: no external panels for gnome-control-center [was Re: GNOME Feature Proposal: Backup]

2011-05-11 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On Wed, 2011-05-11 at 11:47 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote: Although I endorse design of the core components, I don't think it has to require the component to exist in gnome-cc. Furthermore, this seems like a fairly arbitrary limitation. Both major non-free desktops permit applications

Re: Enabling GConf-over-DBus in GNOME 3.2 jhbuild

2011-07-20 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On 20/07/2011 19:14, Ross Burton wrote: Hi, So the DBus port of GConf landed recently and there haven't been any totally serious problems reported so far... would anyone object if I changed jhbuild to use --disable-orbit in the GNOME 3.2 suites? If that works out well I may well decide to

Re: GNOME user survey 2011

2011-07-31 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On Sun, 2011-07-31 at 19:40 +0300, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) wrote: On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 7:11 PM, Felipe Contreras felipe.contre...@gmail.com wrote: It would be great if some sort of notification would popup directly on user's desktops, this way it can ensured that the maximum amount of

Re: GNOME user survey 2011

2011-07-31 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On Sun, 2011-07-31 at 19:58 +0300, Felipe Contreras wrote: On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 7:49 PM, Maciej Piechotka uzytkown...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, 2011-07-31 at 19:40 +0300, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) wrote: On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 7:11 PM, Felipe Contreras felipe.contre...@gmail.com wrote

Re: GNOME user survey 2011 (v6)

2011-10-18 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On 18/10/2011 18:15, Sergey Udaltsov wrote: What's stopping these deprived users from using Gnome 2.X? I don't think there's enough developers interested in keeping the 2.X series alive - it would be a different matter if people were smashing out the features/patches for the 2.X range but as

Re: Prototyping navigation in Epiphany

2012-06-08 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On 08/06/2012 02:45, Bastien Nocera wrote: On Wed, 2012-06-06 at 16:30 -0400, Jeremy Bicha wrote: On 6 June 2012 05:19, Bastien Nocera had...@hadess.net wrote: desktop-devel-list isn't the best place for design discussions though. #gnome-design on IRC, the usability mailing-list, and probably

Re: compiler warnings, -Werror, etc.

2012-07-29 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On Fri, 2012-07-27 at 21:18 +0200, Philip Withnall wrote: On Fri, 2012-07-27 at 13:24 -0400, Colin Walters wrote: On Fri, 2012-07-27 at 17:28 +0200, Frederic Peters wrote: Colin Walters wrote: For compiler warning defaults, I think something similar what Dan Winship has in

Videos from GUADEC/clarification about GNOME on tablets

2012-08-09 Thread Maciej Piechotka
Hi, Unfortunately I was not able to attend GUADEC this year. I tried to catch up with it (BTW the site seems to be down - python cannot open Liberation fonts apparently) - I got to Bright Future of GNOME so far. Unfortunatly for me the slides were on the 'supportive, non-informative' side and I

Re: Videos from GUADEC/clarification about GNOME on tablets

2012-08-10 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On Fri, 2012-08-10 at 11:15 +0200, Xan Lopez wrote: On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 7:57 AM, Maciej Piechotka uzytkown...@gmail.com wrote: 2. While I understand that mobile is new 'shiny' so far I am sceptical of unified interfaces (and several other things from presentation like pre-installed

Re: make --silent

2012-09-14 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On Sat, 2012-09-08 at 19:06 +0200, Lanoxx wrote: Hi All, I would like to hear some opinions about why the -s (--silent) option of make is not being used more often in projects? I just updated the configure.ac and Makefile.am files of a project I was working on and I made these two

Re: Is File Roller 3.6.0 a broken version?

2012-10-22 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On Mon, 2012-10-22 at 10:16 +0200, Sebastien Bacher wrote: Le 22/10/2012 10:09, Bastien Nocera a écrit : I've had to close numbers of bugs in Totem, gnome-control-center, and gnome-bluetooth over the past number of years because you barely did updates past the .0 releases. I'm glad you

Re: GnomeGoal for 3.8: DesktopFileKeywords

2012-11-15 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On Thu, 2012-11-15 at 16:48 +0100, Henrique Ferreiro wrote: Not sure matching in other languages, including english, is a good idea. The typical $locale user is searching for a word in his language, likely having no clue that english has a similar looking word

Re: steam games

2013-02-16 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On Sat, 2013-02-16 at 11:12 +0100, Tomasz Torcz wrote: On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 12:18:55AM +, Alberto Ruiz wrote: I think that it'd be more interesting to engage with Valve to know how the GNOME platform could help steam get a better product. It is an interesting ISV usecase. But

Re: -Werror considered harmful

2013-02-26 Thread Maciej Piechotka
Wouldn't it be better to selectively enable the -Wall -Werror rather then selectively disabled it? People compiling the library potentially care less about warning/errors then developers and know less about build system (was it --disable-fatal-warnings? --disable-Werror? etc.) Enabling warnings

Re: Possible to fix glaring Gjs API issues before GNOME 4?

2013-02-27 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On Wed, 2013-02-27 at 23:26 +0400, Nikita Churaev wrote: OK, so it seems that GNOME has a serious aim on making GNOME/JavaScript the preferred platform for new newbies. However, there are some API issues that make Gjs confusing, and bad for PEOPLE. 1. Some functions return useless success

Re: Possible to fix glaring Gjs API issues before GNOME 4?

2013-02-28 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On Thu, 2013-02-28 at 09:26 +0100, Dan Winship wrote: 4. It's impossible to create custom Gtk.TreeIter from JS (no constructor), so can't implement a completely custom Gtk.TreeModel. I don't know the details of this particular issue, but if it's not possible to do at all now, then any

Re: Possible to fix glaring Gjs API issues before GNOME 4?

2013-02-28 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On Fri, 2013-03-01 at 02:44 +0400, Nikita Churaev wrote: That's not an issue - you can put even a pointer but the problem is that you need to pin object. You don't know (automatically without user intervention) when you can free the resource. At any point GTK might keep GtkTreeIter alive

Re: Porting GNOME to Wayland

2013-03-21 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On Thu, 2013-03-21 at 14:17 +0100, Olav Vitters wrote: On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 05:31:38PM +, Patrick Welche wrote: More of a Wayland FAQ, but on which OSes does Wayland run? I thought it is not Linux-only, but I am not sure. Anyone know? Quick Google search shows that at least FreeBSD

Re: The name of applications on GNOME 3.7.92 testing image

2013-03-22 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On Fri, 2013-03-22 at 12:51 -0400, Jasper St. Pierre wrote: gedit is becoming more of a programmer's editor, so the gedit team wants to keep the gedit brand while people work on a new simple Notepad-equivalent that will be called Text Editor. What would be a use case for such application?

Log-out behaviour of applications

2013-03-23 Thread Maciej Piechotka
I've noticed that gedit in GNOME 3.6 prevents the log out (shut down etc.) if it has unsaved data. While it is useful behaviour: - It is not done by any other Gnome application I know - The dialog shown by gedit is unhelpful as to choose an option one needs to cancel the logout, click any

Re: How long should it take to fix a obvious memory leak?

2013-04-04 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On Thu, 2013-04-04 at 21:20 +0800, Ma Xiaojun wrote: Link: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=674092 IIRC pygtk is no longer maintained (as is gtk+ 2) as the newer binding are using gobject-introspection and pygobject 3 which (presumably) don't have this problem. Last commit to it was 2

Re: New GnomeGoal proposal: InstalledTests

2013-04-26 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On Fri, 2013-04-26 at 12:56 -0400, Colin Walters wrote: On Fri, 2013-04-26 at 18:49 +0200, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote: Hi, On 04/26/2013 05:01 PM, Colin Walters wrote: On Fri, 2013-04-26 at 10:32 -0400, Dan Winship wrote: I want make distcheck to still run all of my tests, to

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