On Sun, 2009-04-19 at 13:19 -0400, Owen Taylor wrote:
On Sat, 2009-04-18 at 22:44 -0700, Sandy Armstrong wrote:
Hi,
Not really sure where to direct this, but I made an update to the
Tomboy website 3 hours ago:
http://git.gnome.org/cgit/gnomeweb-wml/commit/?id
On Sat, 2009-04-18 at 03:51 -0400, Behdad Esfahbod wrote:
Hey,
I wonder if naming the doap file after the module name is optimal.
Wouldn't be it easier to process if the file was simply named doap or
something like module.doap?
Now's the time to decide, before too many modules add one...
On Fri, 2009-04-17 at 16:13 -0700, Sandy Armstrong wrote:
Hi all,
Just a quick note that I've been working a bit on cleaning up our git
documentation. It is now centralized here:
http://live.gnome.org/Git
And the main developer howto has been simplified. It now recommends a
single
On Sat, 2009-04-18 at 18:53 +0200, Krzesimir Nowak wrote:
On Fri, 2009-04-17 at 15:22 +0200, Olav Vitters wrote:
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 08:48:28AM -0400, Owen Taylor wrote:
(Overall status is about 480/580 repositories converted at this point,
including all the big ones.)
Not at all
On Fri, 2009-04-17 at 07:11 -0400, Og Maciel wrote:
I'm not sure if the import process is still under way but my project,
BillReminder, has not been imported yet.
http://git.gnome.org/cgit/billreminder/ Is it still happening?
Thanks in advance,
It looks like there was a problem in importing
On Fri, 2009-04-17 at 09:45 +0100, Richard Hughes wrote:
gnome-packagekit is currently hosted in git on packagekit.org. We used
to accept translations from svn.gnome.org, which were added by doing
svn up and then adding the commit manually to git. The code changes in
git was then pushed back
On Fri, 2009-04-17 at 13:16 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote:
On Fri, 2009-04-17 at 07:34 -0400, Owen Taylor wrote:
On Fri, 2009-04-17 at 07:11 -0400, Og Maciel wrote:
I'm not sure if the import process is still under way but my project,
BillReminder, has not been imported yet.
http
On Thu, 2009-04-16 at 17:42 -0400, Behdad Esfahbod wrote:
On 04/16/2009 04:58 PM, Owen Taylor wrote:
The great migration to git.gnome.org is now underway.
Neato.
Once your module
shows up on http://git.gnome.org/cgit/, you'll notice that it is
described as:
Unnamed repository
On Fri, 2009-04-17 at 16:17 +0100, Richard Hughes wrote:
On Fri, 2009-04-17 at 07:47 -0400, Owen Taylor wrote:
Does it work if we just delete the svn = gimp import and you follow the
new module import procedure described in:
I guess this will work -- can you please delete the gnome
On Fri, 2009-04-17 at 20:03 +0200, Cosimo Cecchi wrote:
On Fri, 2009-04-17 at 11:46 -0400, Owen Taylor wrote:
Duplication is certainly bad. We have two ways to go:
A) Not put the maintainers list in the DOAP files and have them in
the MAINTAINERS file. The plan is that Pulse
On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 17:37 +0100, Alberto Ruiz wrote:
2009/4/6 Jason D. Clinton m...@jasonclinton.com:
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 10:34 AM, Tomas Frydrych t...@linux.intel.com
wrote:
mainstream user. There are good reasons to provide legacy support, and
it's great to be able to run GNOME on
On Mon, 2009-03-30 at 15:20 -0500, Ted Gould wrote:
On Mon, 2009-03-30 at 20:23 +0100, Alberto Ruiz wrote:
2009/3/30 Ted Gould t...@gould.cx:
On Wed, 2009-03-25 at 12:07 -0400, Owen Taylor wrote:
So, basically, no I don't see a way that GNOME Shell coexists with
Compiz other than
On Mon, 2009-03-30 at 20:23 +0100, Alberto Ruiz wrote:
2009/3/30 Ted Gould t...@gould.cx:
On Wed, 2009-03-25 at 12:07 -0400, Owen Taylor wrote:
So, basically, no I don't see a way that GNOME Shell coexists with
Compiz other than as two separate shells for the GNOME desktop.
And I think
On Wed, 2009-03-25 at 20:54 +0900, Sam Spilsbury wrote:
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 12:47 AM, Owen Taylor otay...@redhat.com wrote:
On Tue, 2009-03-24 at 16:17 +0900, Sam Spilsbury wrote:
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 8:18 AM, Johannes Schmid j...@jsschmid.de wrote:
Hi!
2) Mutter could
On Tue, 2009-03-24 at 00:18 +0100, Johannes Schmid wrote:
Hi!
2) Mutter could be renamed as a project to mutter (binary, GConf schemas,
etc. Presumably, the internals would stay Meta*) and imported into GNOME
version control independently of metacity. The uncomposited and RENDER
code
On Tue, 2009-03-24 at 16:17 +0900, Sam Spilsbury wrote:
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 8:18 AM, Johannes Schmid j...@jsschmid.de wrote:
Hi!
2) Mutter could be renamed as a project to mutter (binary, GConf schemas,
etc. Presumably, the internals would stay Meta*) and imported into GNOME
version
On Tue, 2009-03-24 at 18:33 +0100, Xavier Bestel wrote:
On Tue, 2009-03-24 at 10:28 -0700, Sandy Armstrong wrote:
On 03/24/2009 08:47 AM, Owen Taylor wrote:
Using Compiz to create a GNOME desktop using GNOME applications, the
GNOME control-center, and so forth will of course remain
Now that the GNOME-2.27 cycle is beginning, I'd like to come up with
a definitive plan for how we are going to be developing the Metacity
codebase in the context of Mutter and gnome-shell.
To review the current situation:
- Metacity is developed in GNOME svn by Thomas Thurman and others.
On Mon, 2009-03-23 at 17:02 -0400, Colin Walters wrote:
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 4:41 PM, Owen Taylor otay...@redhat.com wrote:
2) Mutter could be renamed as a project to mutter (binary, GConf schemas,
etc. Presumably, the internals would stay Meta*) and imported into GNOME
version control
On Mon, 2009-03-23 at 17:23 -0400, Colin Walters wrote:
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 5:11 PM, Owen Taylor otay...@redhat.com wrote:
But it could also be confusing, and unless you are going to keep on
merging Metacity wholesale into mutter, there's not a big advantage in
having them in the same
Hey -
There's a lot of not-very-productive-discussion and angst going around
now about what we are doing for VCS.
A group of us who believe that a straight git transition probably makes
sense (myself, Federico, Behdad, Elijah, Kristan Hoegsburg) have started
looking into the concrete steps
On Thu, 2008-12-04 at 17:00 +0100, Olav Vitters wrote:
The GNOME Bugzilla is still using 2.20. Current stable upstream is at
3.2. The stable version has several benefits, but overall:
* no crappy table locking, while still allowing full text indexing
(table locking causes many performance
On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 17:45 -0500, Shaun McCance wrote:
On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 23:23 +0100, BJörn Lindqvist wrote:
Hello,
2008/10/28 Mikael Hallendal [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I can't really see us coming to a consensus on this topic. Even after a
vote
we would have people continuing to
OK, a little bit of code for gnome-shell now has hit SVN. It doesn't do
anything that interesting yet it's just about caught up to
gnome-0.9 or so: a gray rectangle with a clock.
Everything is right where you would expect it:
Wiki: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell
IRC:
On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 18:30 +, Calum Benson wrote:
On 28 Oct 2008, at 16:00, Vincent Untz wrote:
Don't know if you read Owen's post, which talks about how this could
be
implemented:
http://blog.fishsoup.net/2008/10/22/implementing-the-next-gnome-shell/
I guess we'll have stuff
On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 18:55 +0100, Mikael Hallendal wrote:
Hi,
I can't really see us coming to a consensus on this topic. Even after
a vote we would have people continuing to use Bazaar if Git win and
vice verse. GNOME is by nature a distributed project with a lot of sub
modules,
On Mon, 2008-06-16 at 19:51 +0100, Alan Cox wrote:
All of that means that there are no run-time problems.
The only actual concern is whether compilers will choke
on UTF-8 source files. Alan says that, according to the
standard, a compiler would be perfectly right to choke.
I believe
On Mon, 2008-06-16 at 15:18 -0500, Shaun McCance wrote:
On Mon, 2008-06-16 at 20:48 +0100, Alan Cox wrote:
Well, as I said, in this case:
gtk_label_new(_(some_string));
The output of gettext can (and often will) be UTF-8,
so gtk_label_new is going to receive UTF-8 whether
On Mon, 2008-02-25 at 09:30 +, Benjamin Otte wrote:
Havoc Pennington hp at pobox.com writes:
Wait, that's the whole point is to crash the app
The issue is that if it just prints stuff, people don't fix the bug
(in part, perhaps, because nothing goes through bug-buddy). Maybe the
On Sun, 2008-01-13 at 21:13 +1300, Callum McKenzie wrote:
I have a version of the gnome-applets code base that uses an external
version of libgweather. I would like use this for the 2.21.5 release, so
I'm asking if anyone has serious objections.
Obviously this relies on Federico getting a
On Mon, 2008-01-14 at 08:56 -0500, Matthias Clasen wrote:
2008/1/14 Owen Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Comments, criticisms?
I'm slightly concerned by this ... libgweather does something pretty
interesting (to a small set of consumers) but the API is no way ready
for any sort
On Wed, 2007-12-05 at 11:48 +, Stef Walter wrote:
Owen Taylor wrote:
(And note that Stef's proposal doesn't just greenlight a connection to
https://bugs.freedesktop.org, it greenlights a https connection to a
DNS-spoofed https://mybank.com.)
Neither bugs.freedesktop.org or a DNS
On Tue, 2007-12-04 at 12:38 -0500, Pat Suwalski wrote:
Murray Cumming wrote:
On Tue, 2007-12-04 at 12:12 -0500, Adam Schreiber wrote:
Unfortunately, one of the main UI elements that indicate a secure
connection is the https:// URL in the URL bar. Are you proposing to
disguise that as
On Wed, 2007-12-05 at 00:34 +, Stef Walter wrote:
Owen Taylor wrote:
If you are connecting on an insecure network (say coffee shop wireless)
then a https connection to an untrusted certificate is a distinctly weak
form of security.
It tells you that you have a encrypted connection
On Sun, 2007-11-11 at 18:20 +0100, Emmanuel Fleury wrote:
Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro wrote:
I coded distcheck into WAF a couple of months ago. It wasn't even a
difficult task...
What about gettext support ?
See: http://code.google.com/p/waf/issues/detail?id=51
What potentially
On Wed, 2007-10-31 at 18:55 +1300, John Stowers wrote:
Hiya
After spending some time trying to integrate Conduit with
online-desktop lately, I thought I should share my thoughts.
a)
The build provess for hippo
(http://svn.mugshot.org/dumbhippo/trunk/client) is overly complex on
account
On Thu, 2007-11-01 at 09:20 +1300, John Stowers wrote:
Hiya,
b)
There is no way to login to programatically to online desktop using
either the dbus api or another manner. This is different to many many
other web apis and makes it difficult to reliably use the api from
outside
This isn't a module proposal, but I wanted to start a conversation about
how we can move the online desktop work closer to the GNOME release
process and maybe get it lined up up for 2.24.
While the response to the overall idea of the Online Desktop has been
very positive, both at GUADEC and the
On 10/2/07, Brian Cameron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Owen:
The GDM/KDM standard for using /usr/share/xsessions/*.desktop files is
documented in the GDM documentation here:
http://www.gnome.org/projects/gdm/docs/2.20/configuration.html
We can extend the .desktop file further if this makes
[ Forgot to reply to the list, trying again ]
On 10/2/07, Brian Cameron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
GDM already has too many surgical workarounds that are only used in
odd corner-cases, and these tend to break on occasion. I'm not opposed
to adding more if someone wants to provide a patch, but
On 26 Sep 2007 08:44:16 +0200, Soeren Sandmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A long time ago I wrote code to do timelapsed backgrounds. I missed
the freeze for 2.20, so now I am submitting it for 2.22.
The idea is that the background gradually fades between a number of
images over the course of a
On Wed, 2007-08-01 at 10:59 -0400, Havoc Pennington wrote:
Hi,
Rodrigo Moya wrote:
I can't create an account on neither of them. The first one's 'Send'
button for obtaining a sign up link does nothing, and the second one
just told me I'll be contacted once there's room for me :-(
I
On Thu, 2007-07-26 at 08:53 -0700, Travis Reitter wrote:
On Wed, 2007-07-25 at 15:42 -0400, Owen Taylor wrote:
snip
So, I think I agree a lot with the basic premises here. But when
I look at:
Basic Architecture
==
[Desktop People Apps] - [Empathy] - [e-d
On Tue, 2007-07-24 at 22:27 -0700, Travis Reitter wrote:
At GUADEC, a number of the people-centric software people (from Soylent,
Banter, Empathy, Telepathy, Mugshot/Online Desktop) got together to
discuss some issues around integrating our work.
Here are some ideas for the short-term
On Sun, 2007-07-22 at 12:02 -0700, Jeff Waugh wrote:
quote who=Havoc Pennington
- Jeff said he would set up online.gnome.org with mediawiki and we'll
move online-desktop.org there. (maybe online.gnome.org should be
the end user server for creating accounts and stuff, and we
On Fri, 2007-06-22 at 15:36 +0200, Murray Cumming wrote:
On Fri, 2007-06-22 at 13:58 +0100, Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro wrote:
On Qui, 2007-06-21 at 23:39 -0300, Johan Dahlin wrote:
Joseph Sacco wrote:
The currently available version of pygtk is the stable branch. I would
expect the
On Tue, 2007-04-10 at 19:49 -0400, Havoc Pennington wrote:
Hi,
I blogged a few days ago about the idea of an online desktop. For our
initial prototypes, we've taken a pretty ad hoc approach that tends to
leak Mugshot specifics in a messy and undocumented way.
I brought up the idea of
On Wed, 2007-02-07 at 13:37 -0500, Tristan Van Berkom wrote:
FYI, I've sucessfully built static binaries that link against static
gtk+, if modules must be opened via dlopen, that is another issue -
you still get a statically linked program that searches for modules
and loads them with
On Thu, 2007-01-18 at 01:29 -0500, Behdad Esfahbod wrote:
On Wed, 2007-01-17 at 21:15 -0500, Owen Taylor wrote:
And how would this differ significantly in practice from
gtk-i18n-list?
- Owen
People can discuss issues in Evolution, gnome
On Sun, 2006-09-24 at 09:43 -0600, Elijah Newren wrote:
(Crappy write-up, but I just haven't had time to sort it out. Sorry!)
GUnique already uses D-Bus (with bacon as a backup). So, how is your
proposal different than GUnique? (Other than startup-notification not
being mentioned in your
On Fri, 2006-09-01 at 00:47 +0100, Alan Horkan wrote:
On Thu, 31 Aug 2006, Pat Suwalski wrote:
...
On the project I work on, Celestia, my goal is to have a UI that is
consistent with the Windows UI, so that it's literally a port. To that
end, some things follow the HIG (I have dialog
On Fri, 2006-08-11 at 11:22 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote:
Heya,
I've written up on GNOME Goal #3:
http://live.gnome.org/GnomeGoalsSaveState
Currently, a lot of applications will be using GConf to save state, like
window sizes, whether or not a window is maximised on startup, etc.
This
On Thu, 2006-02-09 at 18:34 +, Calum Benson wrote:
On Thu, 2006-02-09 at 17:10 +, Alan Horkan wrote:
I believe it was designed by Sun Microsystems so perhaps they can
elaborate on their design process and goals.
Hmm, I don't have any recollection of that at all. If there's any
On Wed, 2006-02-08 at 17:06 +, Alan Horkan wrote:
On Mon, 6 Feb 2006, Wouter Bolsterlee wrote:
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 20:56:56 +0100
From: Wouter Bolsterlee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: Gnome-utils branched to gnome-2-14
På Mon, Feb 06, 2006 at
On Tue, 2006-01-31 at 09:16 -0500, Pat Suwalski wrote:
James Henstridge wrote:
If this is the case, has anyone pinged Carl Worth about the slowdown, to
see if it can be fixed? (either on our end by doing the rendering in a
more efficient way, or by adding fast paths to Cairo for the
On Tue, 2006-01-31 at 12:39 -0500, Pat Suwalski wrote:
James Livingston wrote:
One thing I noticed is that the time is greatly affected by whether
Nautilus is drawing the desktop or not. I normally don't, but when
turned on the time was up to around a second. Drawing the icons and text
On Mon, 2005-08-29 at 11:49 +0100, Ross Burton wrote:
On Sat, 2005-08-27 at 20:43 -0400, Owen Taylor wrote:
cpp is built into GCC these days, so is not lightweight by any means.
I don't know if there is a 10k cpp implementation out there, but if
there is, then switching X.org to use
On Sat, 2005-08-27 at 18:09 +0200, Lorenzo Colitti wrote:
Hi,
For my Summer of Code project (mentor: Owen Taylor) I am working on
improving gnome startup time. Proof-of-concept work on gconf has already
succeded in reducing boot time from ~35 to ~20 seconds, showing that
there is room
On Sun, 2005-08-28 at 00:05 +0100, Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro wrote:
On Sat, 2005-08-27 at 18:09 +0200, Lorenzo Colitti wrote:
The argument for removing xrdb altogether is that users that are putting
#define statements in .Xdefaults or .Xresources are (a) rare, (b)
probably non relying on
I've now made a stable branch of Pango for GNOME-2.12.
Branch name is pango-1-10.
Stuff planned for the HEAD branch:
- Behdad's OpenType work
- Damon's justification work
- Burmese shaper (likely backport to 1.10 after some testing)
- Testing framework I have locally
I'll probably commit
On Sat, 2005-07-30 at 16:58 +0200, uws wrote:
På Sat, Jul 30, 2005 at 02:52:30PM +0200, Murray Cumming skrev:
On Sat, 2005-07-30 at 12:18 +0800, Davyd Madeley wrote:
I'm sure I've brought this up before, but I think we should clean up the
list of themes we ship for G2.12.
Maybe for
On Wed, 2005-07-20 at 17:17 -0400, Miguel de Icaza wrote:
I would like to propose that adopting Gtk+ 2.8 should happen after each
module has branched for the 2.12 release which means that applications
will get another 4-5 months of testing of Gtk+ and Gtk+ 2.8 will get 4-5
months
On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 20:24 +0200, Ikke wrote:
On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 13:41 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
I think the advantages of adding make distcheck are bigger than the
disadvantages.
In the end, being able to do make a tinderbox with make distcheck
and
CFLAGS+=-Wall -Werror
On Sun, 2005-06-12 at 22:53 -0400, Morten Welinder wrote:
For non-local servers without Render, Cairo will allow us to eliminate
the round-trips... a huge win.
Show me the money!
Back in the real world, new code goes in and someone files a performance
bug. Then you, Owen, seem to
On Fri, 2005-06-10 at 15:12 +0200, Jeroen Zwartepoorte wrote:
Since everybody is talking about how glitz will eventually speedup
drawing operations by using hardware accelerated OpenGL, i built it
and then rebuilt cairo so cairo will detect glitz and compile with
support for it.
How does
On Fri, 2005-06-10 at 09:47 -0400, Luis Villa wrote:
On 6/10/05, Alexander Larsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, 2005-06-10 at 09:40 -0400, Luis Villa wrote:
On 6/10/05, Luis Villa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I haven't seen this announced on gtk-devel or here, so:
On Fri, 2005-06-10 at 10:21 -0400, Luis Villa wrote:
But the last time we rushed out a gtk-gnome paired release, and got
ourselves locked into the new APIs so that we couldn't back out, the
result was that any distro actually paying attention would have
noticed that our 'latest stable set'
On Fri, 2005-06-10 at 13:10 -0400, Luis Villa wrote:
On 6/10/05, Owen Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, 2005-06-10 at 10:21 -0400, Luis Villa wrote:
But the last time we rushed out a gtk-gnome paired release, and got
ourselves locked into the new APIs so that we couldn't back out
On Fri, 2005-06-10 at 17:49 -0400, Morten Welinder wrote:
the problem with gtk+/cairo in a stable setting is that it has only
seen testing and been designed for hello world. You need to consider
something bigger!
Thanks for telling me how I designed the gtk+/cairo integration,
I had no idea.
Somewhat random set of comments:
- For all the reasons that it makes sense for GNOME to stick to it's
published schedules, it makes sense for GTK+ to stick to it's
published schedules. While we haven't always done a great job
in the past (GTK+-2.2.0 was particularly bad), that doesn't
On Thu, 2005-06-09 at 10:49 -0400, Luis Villa wrote:
On 6/9/05, Luis Villa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Went ahead and did it myself. TextView is brutally slower (300-400%),
some other things are 25-30% slower, and some things actually get
faster. Disclaimer: I'm pretty sure I did this right and
On Fri, 2005-04-08 at 11:15 +, DANIELLLANO wrote:
Now that you are doing this big change, it's the time to change this
servers and others timezone to UTC (you know not every gnome developer
or user lives in US East Coast)
* Changing the server's localtime to UTC is somewhere on the
On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 13:55 -0500, Havoc Pennington wrote:
On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 18:34 +0100, Kjartan Maraas wrote:
Found this in bugzilla:
From bugreport http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=123570
Regarding a patch to avoid sending multiple dock requests to the same
window:
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