Re: how to apply to be Summer of Code mentor?

2011-04-06 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 2:12 PM, daniel g. siegel dgsie...@gnome.org wrote: On Wed, 2011-04-06 at 17:26 -0300, Juan Pablo Ugarte wrote: BTW what do mentors have to do donate the mentoring money to GNOME? nothing. this will be handled automatically by the soc admins and the gnome foundations.

Re: how to apply to be Summer of Code mentor?

2011-04-06 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 2:22 PM, Juan Pablo Ugarte juanpablouga...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 2011-04-06 at 14:19 -0700, Sandy Armstrong wrote: On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 2:12 PM, daniel g. siegel dgsie...@gnome.org wrote: On Wed, 2011-04-06 at 17:26 -0300, Juan Pablo Ugarte wrote: BTW what do

Re: Using .tar.xz only on ftp.gnome.org (was: install-module / ftp.gnome.org / master.gnome.org)

2011-03-21 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 6:42 AM, Ghee Teo ghee@oracle.com wrote: On 21/03/2011 12:29, Olav Vitters wrote: On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 09:55:05AM +, Ghee Teo wrote: I hope this does not imply or infer that all the source tarball for GNOME will be uploaded in .xz format only. Solaris is

Re: Using .tar.xz only on ftp.gnome.org (was: install-module / ftp.gnome.org / master.gnome.org)

2011-03-21 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 10:01 AM, Ghee Teo ghee@oracle.com wrote: On 21/03/2011 17:02, Sandy Armstrong wrote: On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 6:42 AM, Ghee Teoghee@oracle.com  wrote: On 21/03/2011 12:29, Olav Vitters wrote: On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 09:55:05AM +, Ghee Teo wrote: I hope

Re: libpanel-applet-3 and gtk 2

2011-02-09 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 1:56 PM, Colin Walters walt...@verbum.org wrote: On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 4:46 PM, Frederic Crozat f...@crozat.net wrote: 2011/2/9 Matthias Clasen matthias.cla...@gmail.com: - make it a real application Which make the application undiscoverable by new users (I don't

Re: Jump Lists / Quick Lists / Dash Embellishments in GNOME 3

2011-02-09 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 2:12 PM, John Stowers john.stowers.li...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I see that Ubuntu has merged [1] their implementation of 'quick lists' [2], and also offer ways to embellish their application launcher icons with numbers and progress bars. Is there a plan describing

Re: two choices dangerous for Gnome 3

2011-02-09 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 1:53 PM, Gendre Sebastien ko...@romandie.com wrote: Le mercredi 09 février 2011 à 22:39 +0100, Johannes Schmid a écrit : BTW, I doubt that a discussion on desktop-devel-list will change anything. Yes, but where? As Johannes said in his email, bugzilla is the right

Re: IRC channels in gnome development

2011-02-07 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 5:36 PM, C.J. Adams-Collier c...@colliertech.org wrote: On Mon, 2011-02-07 at 18:37 -0500, William Jon McCann wrote: Hi, Howdy! On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 5:58 PM, C.J. Adams-Collier c...@colliertech.org wrote: On Tue, 2011-02-08 at 01:04 +0530, Nirbheek Chauhan

Re: Question about GNOME 3.0 bindings plans

2011-01-21 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 9:31 AM, Andre Klapper ak...@gmx.net wrote: On Fri, 2011-01-21 at 18:19 +0100, Juanjo Marin wrote: AFAIK, one of the cornerstone components of GNOME 3 is GObject Introspection. I'd like to know which libraries are supposed to support GObject Introspection.

Re: Question about GNOME 3.0 bindings plans

2011-01-21 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 11:01 AM, Shaun McCance sha...@gnome.org wrote: On Fri, 2011-01-21 at 09:46 -0800, Sandy Armstrong wrote: On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 9:31 AM, Andre Klapper ak...@gmx.net wrote: On Fri, 2011-01-21 at 18:19 +0100, Juanjo Marin wrote: AFAIK, one of the cornerstone

Tiling in mutter

2011-01-05 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 8:40 AM, Colin Walters walt...@verbum.org wrote: On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 4:54 AM, Christopher Roy Bratusek zang...@freenet.de wrote: No it's not. Other WMs provide extra functionality besides bling-bling. Compiz does tabbed-windowing, will Mutter do? Sawfish provides

Re: GNOME 3.0 Blocker Report for week 01

2011-01-04 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 10:10 AM, Andre Klapper ak...@gmx.net wrote: Tomboy: Get rid of bonobo dependency: Applet DBUS migration GnomeGoal https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=620829 I've removed the GNOME target from this bug, since we disabled building the panel applet by default in the

Re: My thoughts on fallback mode

2011-01-04 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Christopher Roy Bratusek zang...@freenet.de wrote: Just one last thing for now: Most of those who disagreed with me are developers, most of them who agreed with me are users. Somehow I suspect that non-developer users on desktop-devel-list do not represent a

Re: Re: gnome-panel gnome-applets?

2010-12-29 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 12:43 AM, Carlos Garcia Campos carlo...@gnome.org wrote: If I couldn't use gnome-shell, I would still want to upgrade all other modules to 3.0 and use a fallback mode without loosing the weather applet, for example. The standard answer here seems to be: -- You may lose

Re: gnome-panel gnome-applets?

2010-12-27 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 1:34 AM, Frederic Crozat f...@crozat.net wrote: for nvidia, gnome-shell is not usable with proprietary driver What do you mean by this? Every time I've tested on nvidia hardware with the proprietary driver, shell performance has been totally usable. It's not lightning

Re: gnome-panel gnome-applets?

2010-12-27 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 6:46 AM, Alan Cox a...@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk wrote: What do you mean by this?  Every time I've tested on nvidia hardware with the proprietary driver, shell performance has been totally usable.  It's not lightning fast, but I don't think any hardware change would fix that.

Re: gnome-panel gnome-applets?

2010-12-23 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 3:12 PM, Juanjo Marin juanjomari...@yahoo.es wrote: Though I agree that we must planning the future, we also need to give a migration path for our users. There are big deployments out there, and sometimes they need _time_ for evaluating the new features, updating their

Re: (not) proposing Snowy for GNOME 3.0

2010-10-22 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 3:27 AM, Rodrigo Moya rodr...@gnome-db.org wrote: On Thu, 2010-10-21 at 21:35 -0700, Sandy Armstrong wrote: == GNOME Web Platform == There is no GNOME web platform.  There are no new libraries being proposed for use by all GNOME web modules.  It feels way too early

(not) proposing Snowy for GNOME 3.0

2010-10-21 Thread Sandy Armstrong
Hey Folks, == Intro == I think it's a bit premature to propose an entirely new type of module and moduleset in GNOME, but I think it is not a bad time to discuss what a web app moduleset might be like. I expect I'll propose Snowy for real for 3.2, after we have dogfooded our hypothetical

Re: GNOME Moduleset Reorganization vs. L10N

2010-10-15 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 8:02 AM, daniel g. siegel dgsie...@gnome.org wrote: On Fri, 2010-10-15 at 16:47 +0200, Johannes Schmid wrote: Hi! As much as I'd like to claim it, I don't think we can achieve everything with a single shot. :-) Maintainers of GNOME modules hosted outside of

Re: Moduleset Reorganization -- Take two

2010-10-12 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 5:59 AM, Vincent Untz vu...@gnome.org wrote: Le jeudi 07 octobre 2010, à 07:32 -0700, Sandy Armstrong a écrit : On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 4:38 AM, Vincent Untz vu...@gnome.org wrote: Moreover, we encourage maintainers of applications that are part of the Desktop today

Re: Moduleset Reorganization -- Take two

2010-10-12 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 1:31 PM, Murray Cumming murr...@murrayc.com wrote: On Tue, 2010-10-12 at 15:03 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote: Good point. It's fair to expect projects not using the GNOME development cycle to publish a schedule with freezes. You would allow modules in the module sets

Re: Moduleset Reorganization -- Take two

2010-10-12 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 2:07 PM, Holger Berndt bern...@gmx.de wrote: On Di, 12.10.2010 14:59, Vincent Untz wrote: For example, if Tomboy moves out of Core, then we will still talk about it the way we talk about it today. We would want to keep mentioning cool new features in the release notes,

Re: Moduleset Reorganization -- Take two

2010-10-07 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 4:38 AM, Vincent Untz vu...@gnome.org wrote: Moreover, we encourage maintainers of applications that are part of the Desktop today and that are not core applications to consider helping with the bootstrap efforts of this application set by moving their applications

Re: 2.91.0 status

2010-10-05 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 10:49 AM, Matthias Clasen matthias.cla...@gmail.com wrote: Stuff thats not updated from 2.32: ... tomboy:1.5.0 I'm not sure I understand. Tomboy 1.5.0 is our new development release corresponding with 2.29.0 1.4.x is the stable series corresponding with GNOME 2.32.x.

Re: 2.91.0 status

2010-10-05 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 11:09 AM, Andre Klapper ak...@gmx.net wrote: Am Dienstag, den 05.10.2010, 10:55 -0700 schrieb Sandy Armstrong: On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 10:49 AM, Matthias Clasen matthias.cla...@gmail.com wrote: Stuff thats not updated from 2.32: ... tomboy:1.5.0 I'm not sure I

Re: Please ship changelogs in your tarballs

2010-10-03 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 2:48 AM, Emmanuele Bassi eba...@gmail.com wrote: *if*, on the other hand, you want a ChangeLog because it makes your life as a packager easier (for some unknown reason) then you should probably ask for a Gnome Goal to add the autogeneration of the ChangeLog from the Git

Re: Removing GnomeDesktopItem API from gnome-desktop

2010-07-02 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 5:41 AM, Vincent Untz vu...@gnome.org wrote: Hi, I want to remove the GnomeDesktopItem API from gnome-desktop. It's an old API that is not needed anymore in our world with GKeyFile and GDesktopAppInfo. Thanks to Andre, here's a list of modules using it. I've put them

Re: Removing GnomeDesktopItem API from gnome-desktop

2010-07-02 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 6:26 AM, Vincent Untz vu...@gnome.org wrote: Le vendredi 02 juillet 2010, à 06:12 -0700, Sandy Armstrong a écrit : On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 5:41 AM, Vincent Untz vu...@gnome.org wrote: Hi, I want to remove the GnomeDesktopItem API from gnome-desktop. It's an old API

Re: Call to maintainers: GNOME 2.31 to ship GTK 2.90

2010-06-12 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 5:49 AM, Bastien Nocera had...@hadess.net wrote: On Fri, 2010-06-11 at 18:36 +0200, Xavier Claessens wrote: Once they are all released and parallel installable (we would like to not lose gtk2 compatibility), we are ready to make the move :-) Why is losing GTK2

Re: Call to maintainers: GNOME 2.31 to ship GTK 2.90

2010-06-12 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 7:36 PM, Michael Terry m...@mterry.name wrote: On 12 June 2010 11:31, Xavier Claessens xclae...@gmail.com wrote: Ubuntu told me that Maverick (the next ubuntu release) is not going to ship GTK3 I don't think that's true.  I was at the planning session for coming

Re: Module Proposal for 3.0: Déjà Dup Backup Tool

2010-05-06 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 10:24 AM, Michael Terry m...@mterry.name wrote: 2) I'm still curious to get feedback on other maintainers' experience with pulling in other regular developers once they became a GNOME module.  Frankly, I'm leery of the extra burden it would put on me in terms of bug

Re: Module Proposal: Zeitgeist

2010-04-25 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Curtis Hovey sinzui...@verizon.net wrote: My suggestion is to support the Zeitgeist's community's culture of code reviews. GNOME does not have an official code review tool. Neither does GitHub, which is why projects that host in GitHub also use Launchpad for

Re: Proposed magnifier DBus names

2010-04-23 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Joseph Scheuhammer cl...@utoronto.ca wrote: Anyone, A group of us have been discussing names for a DBus magnifier service.  We have come to a consensus. Service names: org.gnome.magnifier Should be org.gnome.Magnifier org.gnome.magnifier.zoomregion

Re: Module Proposal: Zeitgeist

2010-04-22 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 10:34 AM, Germán Póo-Caamaño g...@gnome.org wrote: On Thu, 2010-04-22 at 19:01 +0200, Seif Lotfy wrote: Our current development is heavily based on launchpad. We are discussing the issue and we don't see a problem to have our trunk from launchpad ported to git with

Re: GSettings and you

2010-04-21 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 3:24 PM, Matthias Clasen matthias.cla...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 6:04 PM, Shaun McCance How do I use the keyfile backend? 'export GSETTINGS_BACKEND=keyfile' gives me this: Can't find GSettings backend 'keyfile' given in GSETTINGS_BACKEND environment

Re: MouseTrap Proposal

2010-03-30 Thread Sandy Armstrong
(Please avoid sending HTML mail to the list) On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 1:56 AM, Flaper87 flape...@gmail.com wrote: 3.0 readiness:     MouseTrap (as it does now) will allow users on GNOME 3.0 to access the desktop environment. Have you tested with at-spi2, and the latest pyatspi2? Sandy

Re: MouseTrap Proposal

2010-03-30 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 7:08 AM, Flaper87 flape...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/3/30 Sandy Armstrong sanfordarmstr...@gmail.com (Please avoid sending HTML mail to the list) On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 1:56 AM, Flaper87 flape...@gmail.com wrote: 3.0 readiness:     MouseTrap (as it does now

Re: Need more tarballs for 2.30.0

2010-03-30 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 5:05 AM, Vincent Untz vu...@gnome.org wrote: Modules that are still with a 2.29 unstable tarball:  at-spi2-atk  at-spi2-core Mike Gorse and I released new tarballs for these two modules (and pyatspi), versioned 0.1.8. Without Mark Doffman around today, we weren't sure

Last call for SoC Ideas! (was Re: Google Summer of Code 2010 Call for Ideas)

2010-03-26 Thread Sandy Armstrong
related tasks, pop on over to #soc-admin, join the soc-mentors-list and let one of the administrators for the program know you want to be involved in making GNOME rock. This year's administrators are Ruben Vermeersch, Christophe Fergeau and Daniel Siegel (and Sandy Armstrong, for as long as his

Re: GtkNotebook scrolling usability

2010-03-10 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Luca Ferretti elle@libero.it wrote: Il giorno mer, 10/03/2010 alle 16.50 -0600, Cody Russell ha scritto: Just wanted to post on the lists and see if people have thoughts on this, otherwise I'm probably going to file a patch to either rip the feature out or

Re: Google Summer of Code 2010 Call for Ideas

2010-03-09 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 5:20 PM, Brian Cameron brian.came...@sun.com wrote: Ruben: At the GNOME Usability Hackfest, it was discussed that there is a real need to develop some free software to help the GNOME Usability team better collaborate.  Máirín Duffy discusses this in some detail in her

Re: On Ctrl+tab

2010-01-13 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 8:07 AM, Luca Ferretti elle@libero.it wrote: Il giorno mer, 13/01/2010 alle 08.38 -0500, Dan Winship ha scritto: On 01/13/2010 07:47 AM, Luca Ferretti wrote: Il giorno dom, 22/11/2009 alle 16.32 -0800, Sandy Armstrong ha scritto: Most users I've spoken to about

Re: On Ctrl+tab

2009-11-22 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 4:23 PM, Joanmarie Diggs joanmarie.di...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Behdad. On Sun, 2009-11-22 at 18:57 -0500, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: As a user, I tend to agree with that sentiment.  While I understand the usefulness of ctrl+tab, it's not as handy and useful as rotating

Re: Backup

2009-11-18 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 3:47 PM, Michael Terry m...@mterry.name wrote: 2009/11/18 Tristan Van Berkom t...@gnome.org: Usually what is best is for you to make an official proposal and explain why you think your module should be included in GNOME releases - personally I think if we dont have any

Re: Backup

2009-11-18 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Bastien Nocera had...@hadess.net wrote: On Wed, 2009-11-18 at 17:30 -0600, Michael Terry wrote: Is GNOME interested in shipping an official backup program?  I (as a long-time lurker) haven't ever noticed discussion about it. Where's the code? :)

Re: New module proposal: tracker

2009-10-29 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 3:59 PM, Martyn Russell mar...@lanedo.com wrote: On 29/10/09 22:49, Sandy Armstrong wrote: On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 3:06 PM, Patryk Zawadzkipat...@pld-linux.org  wrote: On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 10:51 PM, David Zeuthenda...@fubar.dk  wrote: Not to sound like an asshole

Re: New module proposal: tracker

2009-10-27 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Jamie McCracken jamie.mccr...@googlemail.com wrote: Whatever shell is used in Gnome 3 will at some point likely provide an out of process applet system (especially if enough people scream!) This is simply not consistent with what the gnome-shell developers have

Re: Module proposal: dconf

2009-10-16 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 7:10 AM, Ryan Lortie de...@desrt.ca wrote: On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 14:00 +0200, Rodrigo Moya wrote: if dconf listens to changes in gconf, 3rd party apps would just need to link to glib/GSettings instead of libgconf, and their migration would be done automatically, right?

Re: Module proposal: dconf

2009-10-16 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 7:07 AM, Ryan Lortie de...@desrt.ca wrote: On Tue, 2009-10-13 at 13:34 +0200, Rodrigo Moya wrote: I think it makes sense to do the migration for all the apps at once. Also, the migration from gconf can be done directly from dconf, the first time it starts, or even it

Re: Module proposal: dconf

2009-10-16 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 10:19 AM, Iain i...@gnome.org wrote: While not disagreeing with you on the need for migration * A bunch of metadata related to synchronization that, if lost, requires you to start over, which an upgrading user might find to be a hassle * List of pinned notes that

What does gnome-shell give us?

2009-10-02 Thread Sandy Armstrong
Hey folks, Taking a step back from the excitement over shiny new things, I was just wondering if somebody could give a few bullet points that explain what gnome-shell gives us over our current desktop experience. I feel like there's a lot of stuff that's different or missing but I'm not sure I'm

Re: What does gnome-shell give us?

2009-10-02 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Colin Walters walt...@verbum.org wrote: On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 3:04 PM, Sandy Armstrong sanfordarmstr...@gmail.com wrote: Hey folks, Taking a step back from the excitement over shiny new things, I was just wondering if somebody could give a few bullet points

Answering why gnome-shell might not work for me (was Re: What does gnome-shell give us?)

2009-10-02 Thread Sandy Armstrong
walt...@verbum.org wrote: On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 3:04 PM, Sandy Armstrong sanfordarmstr...@gmail.com wrote: Hey folks, Taking a step back from the excitement over shiny new things, I was just wondering if somebody could give a few bullet points that explain what gnome-shell gives us over

Re: Answering why gnome-shell might not work for me (was Re: What does gnome-shell give us?)

2009-10-02 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 3:54 PM, Colin Walters walt...@verbum.org wrote: On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 7:54 PM, Sandy Armstrong sanfordarmstr...@gmail.com wrote: With current default GNOME panel, I can switch workspaces and applications through a minimalistic UI without changing modes.  https

Re: ChangeLog generation and git

2009-10-01 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 12:31 PM, John Stowers john.stowers.li...@gmail.com wrote: I will collect my findings and post on live.gnome.org when done. http://live.gnome.org/Git/ChangeLog Sandy ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list

Re: Project Proposal: GNOME Innovation

2009-09-30 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 11:20 AM, Wolter Hellmund wolte...@gmail.com wrote: The project is intended to use a Brainstorm System, which is already provided by IdeaTorrent. It is already implemented in successful projects such as Ubuntu Brainstorm, SourceForge.net and others. Is there any data

Re: Danger: older bugs are getting squashed with NEEDINFO

2009-09-18 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Andre Klapper ak...@gmx.net wrote: We are sorry on *not* having communicated with the rest of GNOME about this change, but we believed that all developers subscribed to bugs. We would very much like to know which other mailing lists we should add on. The only

Re: GlobalMenu Application for inclusion as a GNOME module

2009-09-03 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 6:44 AM, Colin Walterswalt...@verbum.org wrote: On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 7:17 PM, Sandy Armstrongsanfordarmstr...@gmail.com wrote: Assuming gnome-panel (and therefore panel applets) go away in GNOME 2.30, do you have a plan for integrating GlobalMenu in gnome-shell? The

Re: GlobalMenu Application for inclusion as a GNOME module

2009-09-02 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 3:40 PM, Pierre Slamichpierre.slam...@gmail.com wrote: Dear GNOME maintainers, This is a proposal on behalf of the GlobalMenu developers for its inclusion either in gnome-applets or as a dependency of GNOME. GlobalMenu is an applet that lets the user have its

Re: GMime as an external dependency

2009-07-24 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 4:26 AM, Luca Ferrettielle@libero.it wrote: 2009/7/24 Bastien Nocera had...@hadess.net: Heya, Yesterday I've replaced the RSS Podcast date parsing in totem-pl-parser to use GMime instead of evolution-data-server's libcamel, which should make it easier to build,

Re: GMime as an external dependency

2009-07-24 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 7:15 AM, Frederic Petersfpet...@gnome.org wrote: Sandy Armstrong wrote: Talking to Jeff Stedfast, this is most likely caused by using gtk# trunk in jhbuild.  Although this will surely be fixed, we recommend switching jhbuild to gtk# 2.12 (or building from the gtk-sharp

Re: GMime as an external dependency

2009-07-24 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Andre Klapperak...@gmx.net wrote: Am Freitag, den 24.07.2009, 10:59 -0500 schrieb Mike Kestner: Yes, gtk-sharp-2-12-branch is the stable and probably final 2.x branch for gtk-sharp. The trunk branch will target gtk 3.0 when it is released. The 2.12 branch

Re: PyGTK global keybinding module

2009-07-19 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 3:47 AM, Ulrik Sverdrupulrik.sverd...@gmail.com wrote: Now which way the gnome desktop takes I don't know. Global keybindings are certainly coming, everyone is including tomboy's code. I know the most sensible way for gnome would be to have a C library + A python

Re: New Module Proposal. libseed

2009-05-12 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 5:46 PM, Hubert Figuiere h...@figuiere.net wrote: On 05/12/2009 08:01 PM, Robert Carr wrote: For 2.28, it may make sense to have both gjs and Seed as modules, and try and keep code somewhat compatible. It's still not entirely clear which JavaScript engine is going to

Re: Move back 2.27.1 one week?

2009-04-26 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 7:13 AM, Vincent Untz vu...@gnome.org wrote: Le mercredi 22 avril 2009, à 10:50 -0500, Jason D. Clinton a écrit : With the outstanding git migration problems (and the resulting inability to jhbuild) perhaps we should postpone 2.27.1 by one week? Didn't see a lot of

Re: git commit messages

2009-04-22 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 7:46 AM, Vincent Untz vu...@gnome.org wrote: Hey, The GTK+ team documented how they'd like to see the git commit messages in http://git.gnome.org/cgit/gtk+/tree/README.commits = copy paste = The expected format for git commit

Re: gnomeweb-wml pushes not causing website updates. missing a hook?

2009-04-20 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 9:18 PM, Owen Taylor otay...@redhat.com wrote: On Sun, 2009-04-19 at 13:19 -0400, Owen Taylor wrote: On Sat, 2009-04-18 at 22:44 -0700, Sandy Armstrong wrote: Hi, Not really sure where to direct this, but I made an update to the Tomboy website 3 hours ago

Re: Planning for GNOME 3.0

2009-04-20 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Hubert Figuiere h...@figuiere.net wrote: On 04/19/2009 05:38 PM, Shaun McCance wrote: The Tomboy applet is an extremely convenient way to access your notes.  You think of it as wasting valuable screen real estate.  But to a heavy note-taking person, it's just

Re: Planning for GNOME 3.0

2009-04-19 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 6:31 AM, Emmanuele Bassi eba...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, 2009-04-19 at 14:34 +0200, Sebastian Pölsterl wrote: I think it would be a big mistake to omit applets in the new gnome desktop evolution. why? Because users want some functionality to be conveniently available

Re: Git documentation reorganization and cleanup

2009-04-18 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 7:17 AM, Alberto Ruiz ar...@gnome.org wrote: 2009/4/18 Sandy Armstrong sanfordarmstr...@gmail.com: Hi all, Just a quick note that I've been working a bit on cleaning up our git documentation.  It is now centralized here: http://live.gnome.org/Git And the main

Re: On doap file naming

2009-04-18 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 5:18 AM, Owen Taylor otay...@redhat.com wrote: On Sat, 2009-04-18 at 03:51 -0400, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: Hey, I wonder if naming the doap file after the module name is optimal. Wouldn't be it easier to process if the file was simply named doap or something like

gnomeweb-wml pushes not causing website updates. missing a hook?

2009-04-18 Thread Sandy Armstrong
Hi, Not really sure where to direct this, but I made an update to the Tomboy website 3 hours ago: http://git.gnome.org/cgit/gnomeweb-wml/commit/?id=3d1e649acdc765290de0f4a5abbec5ba0064d25f I would expect the live site to have updated by now. Are we missing a hook or some other infrastructure?

Git documentation reorganization and cleanup

2009-04-17 Thread Sandy Armstrong
Hi all, Just a quick note that I've been working a bit on cleaning up our git documentation. It is now centralized here: http://live.gnome.org/Git And the main developer howto has been simplified. It now recommends a single simple workflow of hacking, making a single commit, and generating a

Re: Planning for GNOME 3.0

2009-04-14 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On 04/13/2009 12:20 PM, Olav Vitters wrote: On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 11:45:56AM -0700, Sandy Armstrong wrote: What other changes in GNOME 2.30 depend on inclusion of mutter and gnome-shell? Not really sure why we are willing to hold back the 2.30 release, instead of holding back the inclusion

Re: Planning for GNOME 3.0

2009-04-13 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On 04/09/2009 07:56 PM, Dave Neary wrote: Hi Vincent, Vincent Untz wrote: (generally speaking, I believe all release team meetings have public minutes since at least a few years, and the release team mailing list is used most 99% of the time for communication) Thanks for the info and the

Re: Planning for GNOME 3.0

2009-04-13 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On 04/13/2009 10:07 AM, Frederic Peters wrote: Sandy Armstrong wrote: I sympathize with the desire to compete and innovate, but Dave's criticisms resonate with me: this doesn't feel like a community decision. It may not have been clearly stated in the Planning for GNOME 3.0 email

Re: Metacity, Mutter, GNOME Shell, GNOME-2.28

2009-03-24 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On 03/24/2009 08:47 AM, Owen Taylor wrote: Using Compiz to create a GNOME desktop using GNOME applications, the GNOME control-center, and so forth will of course remain possible. We have no current plans to create hard dependencies on GNOME Shell within the GNOME desktop (just as there are no

Re: Metacity, Mutter, GNOME Shell, GNOME-2.28

2009-03-24 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On 03/24/2009 11:30 AM, Xavier Bestel wrote: On Tue, 2009-03-24 at 13:53 -0400, Owen Taylor wrote: On Tue, 2009-03-24 at 18:33 +0100, Xavier Bestel wrote: On Tue, 2009-03-24 at 10:28 -0700, Sandy Armstrong wrote: On 03/24/2009 08:47 AM, Owen Taylor wrote: Using Compiz to create a GNOME

Mea Culpa: If you've been rejected from being a Summer of Code mentor on the basis of not being a Foundation member, please reapply

2009-03-23 Thread Sandy Armstrong
Hi all, Sorry for this spam, but apparently I've been a little overzealous in enforcing our requirement that only GNOME Foundation members can be Summer of Code mentors. In fact, if you are not a foundation member but easily could be, you are more than welcome as a mentor! So, if you have

If applying to be a SoC mentor, please share your link id via email or IRC

2009-03-21 Thread Sandy Armstrong
Hi folks, Frustratingly, when looking at the list of people who have applied to be mentors for GNOME in Summer of Code, administrators can only see your link id, not your full name. Sometimes there is an obvious correlation, but sometimes not. To move things along, I would ask that you let

SoC 2009 Ideas List Officially Triaged (New Untriaged Ideas still accepted until Monday)

2009-03-21 Thread Sandy Armstrong
Hi all, I just wanted to briefly mention that the triage committee has finished sorting community-proposed SoC ideas into categories on: http://live.gnome.org/SummerOfCode2009/Ideas The student proposal period begins Monday, so if you have a new idea to add between now and then, please add

[Fwd: If applying to be a SoC mentor, please share your link id via email or IRC]

2009-03-20 Thread Sandy Armstrong
Apparently BCC'ing a list is now allowed, so here's a forward of this mail to soc-mentors-list: Original Message Subject: If applying to be a SoC mentor, please share your link id via email or IRC Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 07:23:53 -0700 From: Sandy Armstrong sanfordarmstr

Re: GNOME accepted as a Google Summer o Code project

2009-03-18 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On 03/18/2009 03:21 PM, Jason D. Clinton wrote: On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 5:00 PM, Adam Schreibersa...@clemson.edu wrote: GNOME has been accepted as a GSoC project for 2009. If you're interested in being a mentor and/or reviewing student applications, make your way to [1] and sign up. As far

Tomboy branched for GNOME 2.26

2009-03-16 Thread Sandy Armstrong
Hi all, Just branched Tomboy for GNOME 2.26, to a branch named gnome-2-26 [1]. Trunk is now open for new development. Cheers, Sandy [1] http://svn.gnome.org/viewvc/tomboy/branches/gnome-2-26/ ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list

Re: gobject-introspection, gir-repository and gjs moved to git

2009-02-11 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On 02/11/2009 12:54 PM, John Stowers wrote: On Wed, 2009-02-11 at 17:25 -0200, Johan Dahlin wrote: gobject-introspection, gir-repository and gjs were today moved over to git. The old svn repositories will still work, but only in read-only mode. Does this mean the GNOME move to git is complete

Re: Nautilus drop-down menu with view type

2009-02-08 Thread Sandy Armstrong
(You forgot to CC the list, so I'm CCing my response) On 02/08/2009 02:41 AM, Matteo Settenvini wrote: On sab, 2009-02-07 at 15:25 -0800, Sandy Armstrong wrote: On 02/07/2009 02:40 PM, Matteo Settenvini wrote: I'd personally prefer to have the quick drop-down menu with the view type replaced

Re: Nautilus drop-down menu with view type

2009-02-07 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On 02/07/2009 02:40 PM, Matteo Settenvini wrote: Hi, I'd like your opinion on a usability concern. Whereas I change the ordering of elements in nautilus quite a lot (for example, ordering files by creation date, or by name, or by type...), I almost never change the type of visualization (icons,

Re: how I write GTK+ theme?

2009-01-19 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On 01/18/2009 09:19 PM, Davyd Madeley wrote: I'm trying to get a feel for how hard it would be to write a tool similar to the Java Swing theme Napkin: http://napkinlaf.sourceforge.net/ This would be awesome. I've always thought Napkin was a good idea for customer prototypes. Was it Kathy

Re: GNOME DVCS Survey Results

2009-01-06 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On 01/06/2009 02:09 AM, Ruben Vermeersch wrote: What if this user publishes his branch using bzr (which works fine with the GNOME servers). How will I merge this branch, if I'm using git? It looks to me that with the git+bzr proposal, we're being forced to learn both systems anyway. We can

Hosting app binaries at download.gnome.org?

2008-12-19 Thread Sandy Armstrong
Hi, I'm wondering where I should be putting my Tomboy binaries for Windows/Mac. I'd like to have them in the same place where source tarballs are downloaded [1], but I don't know how to do that or even if it is possible. Currently I'm hosting them on my own server. The nice thing about

Re: Hosting app binaries at download.gnome.org?

2008-12-19 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On 12/19/2008 08:03 AM, Vincent Untz wrote: Le vendredi 19 décembre 2008, à 07:46 -0800, Sandy Armstrong a écrit : Hi, I'm wondering where I should be putting my Tomboy binaries for Windows/Mac. I'd like to have them in the same place where source tarballs are downloaded [1], but I

Re: Proposed external dependency: Mono.Addins

2008-11-17 Thread Sandy Armstrong
Sandy Armstrong wrote: Tomboy has depended on Mono.Addins = 0.3 [1] for over a year now, but since it's not a blessed dependency in GNOME we've been forced to bundle a copy. For all the obvious reasons why this is a bad idea, we'd like to stop doing it. Mono.Addins is widely used

Proposed external dependency: Mono.Addins

2008-11-08 Thread Sandy Armstrong
Howdy, Tomboy has depended on Mono.Addins = 0.3 [1] for over a year now, but since it's not a blessed dependency in GNOME we've been forced to bundle a copy. For all the obvious reasons why this is a bad idea, we'd like to stop doing it. Mono.Addins is widely used in the Mono community by

Re: Prototyping the next generation panel?

2008-10-28 Thread Sandy Armstrong
Thomas Thurman wrote: Ysgrifennodd John Stowers: Personally I would not be sad if AWN were to replace gnome-panel all together (in the default install), but thats a story for another day. I really like AWN. I'd love if we could use it or some of it. Bikeshed: are we calling this

Re: indentation of c code

2008-08-18 Thread Sandy Armstrong
Jason D. Clinton wrote: On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 7:22 AM, Dodji Seketeli [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BJörn Lindqvist a écrit : [...] There is no GNOME standard for indenting C code -- every project use their own indentation style

Re: [+gnome] Re: Project Hamster now in GNOME SVN

2008-08-15 Thread Sandy Armstrong
Wouter Bolsterlee wrote: 2008-08-15 klockan 18:26 skrev Patryk Zawadzki: On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 6:03 PM, Anders Feder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think Time Tracker had been suggested in earlier discussions on this list? Or perhaps that was only intended for menu titles? It was

Re: New svn module: gnome-sound-theme

2008-08-12 Thread Sandy Armstrong
Wouter Bolsterlee wrote: 2008-08-12 klockan 05:42 skrev Sandy Armstrong: Brian Cameron wrote: We should update our spec so that FLAC is the recommended uncompressed format. Huh? Isn't FLAC a *compressed* format? Lossless != uncompressed. That's not true. According

Re: Proposed module: project hamster

2008-07-30 Thread Sandy Armstrong
Vincent Untz wrote: Homepage: http://projecthamster.wordpress.com/ svn/git/bzr/...: http://code.google.com/p/projecthamster/source/checkout Proposal on d-d-l: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2008-April/msg00138.html License: GPLv3 (or is it GPLv3 or later?) Short description:

Re: Something wrong with SVN access?

2008-05-15 Thread Sandy Armstrong
http://tinyurl.com/56vsoa On 5/15/08, Jaap A. Haitsma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, When I check out code with my gnome account I get prompted for a password and I don't have a clue which password it needs to be. svn co svn+ssh://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/svn/vala/trunk vala-trunk [EMAIL

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