On Thu, 2009-09-24 at 22:30 -0400, Jud Craft wrote:
Er... KVM?
yes. KVM actually supports virtualization of OpenGL much better than VB
and VMWare.
the Moblin netbook UI, which is written using the same components (minus
JavaScript) as the GNOME Shell is routinely tested under VirtualBox and
Also, does this mean that virtualization of a GNOME-shell environment
is out for the near future now?
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2009/9/25 Jud Craft craft...@gmail.com:
Also, does this mean that virtualization of a GNOME-shell environment
is out for the near future now?
OpenGL is already supported by the major desktop virtualization apps
out there like VirtualBox or VMWare if that's what you mean.
Er... KVM?
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 9:13 PM, Alberto Ruiz ar...@gnome.org wrote:
OpenGL is already supported by the major desktop virtualization apps
out there like VirtualBox or VMWare if that's what you mean.
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On Mon, 2009-08-17 at 07:43 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi wrote:
On Mon, 2009-08-17 at 08:03 +0200, Xavier Bestel wrote:
Le dimanche 16 août 2009 à 23:55 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi a écrit :
the majority of GPUs, nowadays, work fine on
Linux with open source drivers[1], and provide the basic
On Tue, 2009-09-08 at 19:04 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi wrote:
we do have a performance drop when compositing a GL application within a
GL-based compositor under DRI2; driver developers, X developers, Clutter
developers and Mutter/GNOME Shell developers are aware of this - and we
are working
Don't forget that the composited desktop itself on Linux still has
some inherent flaws.
Like that whole video garbage thing, that still shows glitches in
OpenOffice even on Fedora 11 on an Intel 965, and leaves KDE out in
the cold.
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/254468
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 12:24 PM, Jason D. Clintonm...@jasonclinton.com wrote:
This has been fixed for quite some time including on KDE so out in the
cold would be false hyperbole.
I apologize. Referring to the video garbage issue, by reading the two
bug reports I linked I can still see people
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Jud Craft craft...@gmail.com wrote:
Don't forget that the composited desktop itself on Linux still has
some inherent flaws.
Like that whole video garbage thing, that still shows glitches in
OpenOffice even on Fedora 11 on an Intel 965, and leaves KDE out in
On Tue, 2009-09-08 at 11:24 -0500, Jason D. Clinton wrote:
Or that you run into problems on some intel cards with 3D
composited
desktops and multimonitor setups. (Due to the 2048x2048
problem). Or
glitches in TV output.
I believe that Owen
On Tue, 2009-09-08 at 11:36 -0400, Jud Craft wrote:
Or that you run into problems on some intel cards with 3D composited
desktops and multimonitor setups. (Due to the 2048x2048 problem). Or
glitches in TV output.
Wasn't this limitation bumped to 4096x4096 on i915 (newer hardware have
double
On the topic of visual garbage, I've read over all of the relevant Qt
posts again for 4.6, and I do admit that it certainly seems fixed
upstream [1]. My mistake for being underinformed, although the
comments on bugs.kde.org and Ubuntu launchpad means that I suppose it
hasn't trickled down yet, or
On Mon, 2009-08-17 at 08:03 +0200, Xavier Bestel wrote:
Le dimanche 16 août 2009 à 23:55 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi a écrit :
the majority of GPUs, nowadays, work fine on
Linux with open source drivers[1], and provide the basic functionality
that Clutter requires[2].
Except for some Intel
On Mon, 2009-08-17 at 07:48 +0200, Maciej Piechotka wrote:
I'd like to point out, though, that innovation cannot be driven by
looking at the past; if GNOME, and the Linux desktop, want to be
relevant with the users of today and tomorrow it cannot still be
anchored to hardware
On Mon, 2009-08-17 at 07:53 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi wrote:
On Mon, 2009-08-17 at 07:48 +0200, Maciej Piechotka wrote:
I'd like to point out, though, that innovation cannot be driven by
looking at the past; if GNOME, and the Linux desktop, want to be
relevant with the users of today and
On Mon, 2009-08-17 at 07:54 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi wrote:
I know that your goals may be different that mine. I'd like to have a
working desktop on computer I have right now.
and it's a perfectly legitimate goal. but then you should be keeping
your current desktop environment. after all,
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 8:43 AM, Emmanuele Bassieba...@gmail.com wrote:
it would be interesting to have a single place where the hardware
support matrix was stored -- maybe on live.gnome.org or on
freedesktop.org's wiki -- and updated.
So let's do it then :)
I own 3 laptops: an 4-y-o one that
On Mon, 2009-08-17 at 08:22 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi wrote:
people must vote with their wallets. they must buy hardware with Linux
support; and make other Linux users buy hardware with Linux support;
and let vendors know that they bought or did not buy hardware because
of the Linux support.
I
2009/8/17 Emmanuele Bassi eba...@gmail.com:
so you're saying that only old GPUs work, and Maciej is saying that old
GPUs do not work.
it would be interesting to have a single place where the hardware
support matrix was stored -- maybe on live.gnome.org or on
freedesktop.org's wiki -- and
On Sun, 2009-08-16 at 23:55 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi wrote:
I'm usuing currently Gnome 2.27.x and I've become worried about new
dependency - clutter.
OpenGL traditionally have been problematic on GNU/Linux, not
mentioning
other *nixes. Many cards are only partially supported and/or
On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 5:55 PM, Emmanuele Bassi eba...@gmail.com wrote:
When I tried new clutter-based gnometris I haven't see it running at
all. The main portion of screen was the previous background. While I
understend that it is not a gnome bug it shows that OpenGL is not
perfect even
On Sun, 2009-08-16 at 12:12 +0200, Maciej Piechotka wrote:
I'm sorry I'm posting it on wrong list.
yes, you probably wanted to mail to desktop-devel-list instead of
gnome-devel.
I'm usuing currently Gnome 2.27.x and I've become worried about new
dependency - clutter.
OpenGL traditionally
On Sun, 2009-08-16 at 23:55 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi wrote:
On Sun, 2009-08-16 at 12:12 +0200, Maciej Piechotka wrote:
I'm sorry I'm posting it on wrong list.
yes, you probably wanted to mail to desktop-devel-list instead of
gnome-devel.
Ups. Sorry.
I'm usuing currently Gnome 2.27.x
Le dimanche 16 août 2009 à 23:55 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi a écrit :
the majority of GPUs, nowadays, work fine on
Linux with open source drivers[1], and provide the basic functionality
that Clutter requires[2].
Except for some Intel cards, that's not true by a long shot. Only very
old ATI cards
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