Re: make distcheck in tinderbox [was Re: make check failures- gnome-vfs, e-d-s, at-spi]

2005-08-03 Thread Davyd Madeley
On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 13:18 -0400, Luis Villa wrote: I'm assuming that if I keep pushing this and making it more useful someone is going to eventually give me/gnome a faster box to do it on. :) (and then we get into the fun world of -j ;) I think the UCC can do something to provide number

Re: make distcheck in tinderbox [was Re: make check failures- gnome-vfs, e-d-s, at-spi]

2005-08-03 Thread Davyd Madeley
On Wed, 2005-08-03 at 08:27 -0400, Luis Villa wrote: I think the UCC can do something to provide number crunching power... just as soon as we work out how to cool it. Of course, most of our spare CPU power is currently in the form of Alpha CPUs, but I guess that would check that our code

Re: make distcheck in tinderbox [was Re: make check failures- gnome-vfs, e-d-s, at-spi]

2005-07-19 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hi, On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 14:34 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 20:23 +0200, Ikke wrote: On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 13:28 -0400, Luis Villa wrote: I think the advantages of adding make distcheck are bigger than the disadvantages. OK, but what are they? :) Making

Re: make distcheck in tinderbox [was Re: make check failures- gnome-vfs, e-d-s, at-spi]

2005-07-19 Thread Chipzz
[was Re: make check failures- gnome-vfs, e-d-s, at-spi] On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 15:29 -0400, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: One way to go about is to require all involved modules to have an RPM .spec file, and jhbuild can be instructed to build and install RPMs, but most probably

Re: make distcheck in tinderbox [was Re: make check failures- gnome-vfs, e-d-s, at-spi]

2005-07-19 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On Tue, 19 Jul 2005, Mark McLoughlin wrote: I think I'm with Matthias on this - make distcheck shows plenty of issues that aren't going to affect anyone in reality, and no maintainer wants to be pestered every day about the latest random thing that's gotten screwed up. If people

Re: make distcheck in tinderbox [was Re: make check failures- gnome-vfs, e-d-s, at-spi]

2005-07-19 Thread Alexander Larsson
On Tue, 2005-07-19 at 10:37 -0400, Dan Winship wrote: On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 16:06 -0400, Luis Villa wrote: On 7/18/05, Andrew Sobala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 15:54 -0400, Colin Walters wrote: What's so difficult about jhbuild? Couldn't we make just make it easier

Re: make distcheck in tinderbox [was Re: make check failures- gnome-vfs, e-d-s, at-spi]

2005-07-19 Thread James Henstridge
Dan Winship wrote: Could we just package up the results of the jhbuild in a dumb, completely mechanical way, such that installing the packages would be exactly equivalent to running jhbuild? ie, it wouldn't replace or conflict with your existing GNOME packages, it would just install everything

Re: make distcheck in tinderbox [was Re: make check failures- gnome-vfs, e-d-s, at-spi]

2005-07-19 Thread Luis Villa
On 7/19/05, Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: quote who=Luis Villa shrug If we're going to throw massive tarballs over the wall, might as well add the extra few megs and just make them debug from the start, no? Luis (noting that he has no idea if this would actually *work*) This

Re: make distcheck in tinderbox [was Re: make check failures- gnome-vfs, e-d-s, at-spi]

2005-07-19 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Luis Villa Yeah, figured it would have to be per-distro*. With a little help from vmware or something along those lines that should be too hard to automate. That'll be slow. Use a chroot. :-) - Jeff -- OSCON 2005: August 1st-5th http://conferences.oreillynet.com/os2005/

Re: make distcheck in tinderbox [was Re: make check failures- gnome-vfs, e-d-s, at-spi]

2005-07-19 Thread Luis Villa
On 7/19/05, Dan Winship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2005-07-19 at 11:31 -0400, Luis Villa wrote: On 7/19/05, Alexander Larsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The naming of the packages could also be such that there is no chance of conflicting with your vendor gnome, current version or

Re: make distcheck in tinderbox [was Re: make check failures- gnome-vfs, e-d-s, at-spi]

2005-07-19 Thread Mark Drago
On Tue, 2005-07-19 at 12:01 -0400, Luis Villa wrote: On 7/19/05, Dan Winship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2005-07-19 at 11:31 -0400, Luis Villa wrote: On 7/19/05, Alexander Larsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The naming of the packages could also be such that there is no chance of

make distcheck in tinderbox [was Re: make check failures- gnome-vfs, e-d-s, at-spi]

2005-07-18 Thread Luis Villa
On 7/18/05, Elijah Newren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/18/05, Luis Villa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: P.S. It was suggested that I should 'make distcheck' in tinderbox. Opinions? Luis is cool for doing all this tinderbox work. Heh. Thank James mostly; he wrote the code and I'm just

Re: make distcheck in tinderbox [was Re: make check failures- gnome-vfs, e-d-s, at-spi]

2005-07-18 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 13:03 -0400, Luis Villa wrote: On 7/18/05, Elijah Newren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/18/05, Luis Villa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: P.S. It was suggested that I should 'make distcheck' in tinderbox. Opinions? Luis is cool for doing all this tinderbox

Re: make distcheck in tinderbox [was Re: make check failures- gnome-vfs, e-d-s, at-spi]

2005-07-18 Thread Luis Villa
On 7/18/05, Matthias Clasen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 13:03 -0400, Luis Villa wrote: On 7/18/05, Elijah Newren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/18/05, Luis Villa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: P.S. It was suggested that I should 'make distcheck' in tinderbox.

Re: make distcheck in tinderbox [was Re: make check failures- gnome-vfs, e-d-s, at-spi]

2005-07-18 Thread Ikke
On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 13:28 -0400, Luis Villa wrote: I think the advantages of adding make distcheck are bigger than the disadvantages. OK, but what are they? :) Making sure people doing anonymous cvs checkouts will at any time be able to build the package they co, not running in major

Re: make distcheck in tinderbox [was Re: make check failures- gnome-vfs, e-d-s, at-spi]

2005-07-18 Thread Colin Walters
On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 15:22 -0400, Luis Villa wrote: On 7/18/05, Behdad Esfahbod [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 18 Jul 2005, Luis Villa wrote: build/distribute daily snapshots like we used to. Not sure if that is worth the admitted pain of nagging/etc., especially since ATM no one

Re: make distcheck in tinderbox [was Re: make check failures- gnome-vfs, e-d-s, at-spi]

2005-07-18 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005, Luis Villa wrote: We're not lacking people doing tinderboxing.[1] The thing we're really missing (which has always been more important than tinderboxing, IMHO) is for someone to build daily rpms and debs for popular distributions, so that 'average' users can use rug, yum,

Re: make distcheck in tinderbox [was Re: make check failures- gnome-vfs, e-d-s, at-spi]

2005-07-18 Thread Andrew Sobala
On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 15:22 -0400, Luis Villa wrote: We're not lacking people doing tinderboxing.[1] The thing we're really missing (which has always been more important than tinderboxing, IMHO) is for someone to build daily rpms and debs for popular distributions, so that 'average' users can

Re: make distcheck in tinderbox [was Re: make check failures- gnome-vfs, e-d-s, at-spi]

2005-07-18 Thread Alan Horkan
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005, Ikke wrote: Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 21:42:09 +0200 From: Ikke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Behdad Esfahbod [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Luis Villa [EMAIL PROTECTED], desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: make distcheck in tinderbox [was Re: make check failures- gnome-vfs, e-d

Re: make distcheck in tinderbox [was Re: make check failures- gnome-vfs, e-d-s, at-spi]

2005-07-18 Thread Luis Villa
On 7/18/05, Behdad Esfahbod [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 18 Jul 2005, Luis Villa wrote: build/distribute daily snapshots like we used to. Not sure if that is worth the admitted pain of nagging/etc., especially since ATM no one is offering to build daily snaps. I'm willing to do

Re: make distcheck in tinderbox [was Re: make check failures- gnome-vfs, e-d-s, at-spi]

2005-07-18 Thread Ikke
On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 13:41 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: I think the advantages of adding make distcheck are bigger than the disadvantages. In the end, being able to do make a tinderbox with make distcheck and CFLAGS+=-Wall -Werror -pedantic -ansi would be so cool ;-) -Wall -ansi

Re: make distcheck in tinderbox [was Re: make check failures- gnome-vfs, e-d-s, at-spi]

2005-07-18 Thread Luis Villa
On 7/18/05, Andrew Sobala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 15:54 -0400, Colin Walters wrote: On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 15:22 -0400, Luis Villa wrote: On 7/18/05, Behdad Esfahbod [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 18 Jul 2005, Luis Villa wrote: build/distribute daily

Re: make distcheck in tinderbox [was Re: make check failures- gnome-vfs, e-d-s, at-spi]

2005-07-18 Thread Maciej Katafiasz
Dnia 18-07-2005, pon o godzinie 13:28 -0400, Luis Villa napisaƂ: In the end, being able to do make a tinderbox with make distcheck and CFLAGS+=-Wall -Werror -pedantic -ansi would be so cool ;-) Would definitely love to have a 'secondary' tinderbox run with pedantic/wall/werror turned on so

Re: make distcheck in tinderbox [was Re: make check failures- gnome-vfs, e-d-s, at-spi]

2005-07-18 Thread Alan Horkan
Alan Horkan wrote: Supporting Autopackage wouldn't adversely affect or favour any particularly distribution and it would in fact produce packages widely usable by a whole variety of distributions. There is no Autopackage based distribution yet (nor is there likely to be). Note that

Re: make distcheck in tinderbox [was Re: make check failures- gnome-vfs, e-d-s, at-spi]

2005-07-18 Thread Luis Villa
On 7/18/05, Ikke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 15:29 -0400, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: One way to go about is to require all involved modules to have an RPM .spec file, and jhbuild can be instructed to build and install RPMs, but most probably this will not be accepted

Re: make distcheck in tinderbox [was Re: make check failures- gnome-vfs, e-d-s, at-spi]

2005-07-18 Thread Rob Adams
Behdad Esfahbod wrote: One way to go about is to require all involved modules to have an RPM .spec file, and jhbuild can be instructed to build and install RPMs, but most probably this will not be accepted practice in GNOME. Or am I wrong? This is not practical, especially with so many

Re: make distcheck in tinderbox [was Re: make check failures- gnome-vfs, e-d-s, at-spi]

2005-07-18 Thread Luis Villa
On 7/18/05, Rob Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Behdad Esfahbod wrote: One way to go about is to require all involved modules to have an RPM .spec file, and jhbuild can be instructed to build and install RPMs, but most probably this will not be accepted practice in GNOME. Or am I wrong?

Re: make distcheck in tinderbox [was Re: make check failures- gnome-vfs, e-d-s, at-spi]

2005-07-18 Thread Luis Villa
On 7/18/05, Matthias Clasen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 20:23 +0200, Ikke wrote: On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 13:28 -0400, Luis Villa wrote: I think the advantages of adding make distcheck are bigger than the disadvantages. OK, but what are they? :) Making sure

Re: make distcheck in tinderbox [was Re: make check failures- gnome-vfs, e-d-s, at-spi]

2005-07-18 Thread Rob Adams
Colin Walters wrote: What's so difficult about jhbuild? Couldn't we make just make it easier (such as having jhbuild autodetect stuff in /usr and adjust PKG_CONFIG_PATH)? jhbuild is pretty damned difficult. Whenever I want to get a jhbuild going on a machine it invariably requires about a

Re: make distcheck in tinderbox [was Re: make check failures- gnome-vfs, e-d-s, at-spi]

2005-07-18 Thread Owen Taylor
On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 20:24 +0200, Ikke wrote: On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 13:41 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: I think the advantages of adding make distcheck are bigger than the disadvantages. In the end, being able to do make a tinderbox with make distcheck and CFLAGS+=-Wall -Werror

Re: make distcheck in tinderbox [was Re: make check failures- gnome-vfs, e-d-s, at-spi]

2005-07-18 Thread Mark Drago
On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 15:22 -0400, Luis Villa wrote: On 7/18/05, Behdad Esfahbod [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 18 Jul 2005, Luis Villa wrote: build/distribute daily snapshots like we used to. Not sure if that is worth the admitted pain of nagging/etc., especially since ATM no one

Re: make distcheck in tinderbox [was Re: make check failures- gnome-vfs, e-d-s, at-spi]

2005-07-18 Thread Ikke
On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 13:15 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 13:03 -0400, Luis Villa wrote: On 7/18/05, Elijah Newren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/18/05, Luis Villa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: P.S. It was suggested that I should 'make distcheck' in tinderbox.

Re: make distcheck in tinderbox [was Re: make check failures- gnome-vfs, e-d-s, at-spi]

2005-07-18 Thread Luis Villa
On 7/18/05, Ikke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 13:15 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 13:03 -0400, Luis Villa wrote: On 7/18/05, Elijah Newren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/18/05, Luis Villa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: P.S. It was suggested that

Re: make distcheck in tinderbox [was Re: make check failures- gnome-vfs, e-d-s, at-spi]

2005-07-18 Thread Ikke
You didn't even read that bug report, obviously! Actually, I did read it, which does not imply I agree with the final conclusion. But beyond that '-ansi -pedantic' have a really wrong meaning. They mean, to both GCC and the compiler: Turn off all extensions beyond the C89 standard Which

Re: make distcheck in tinderbox [was Re: make check failures- gnome-vfs, e-d-s, at-spi]

2005-07-18 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 19:24 +0200, Ikke wrote: I think the advantages of adding make distcheck are bigger than the disadvantages. In the end, being able to do make a tinderbox with make distcheck and CFLAGS+=-Wall -Werror -pedantic -ansi would be so cool ;-) -Wall -ansi -pedantic -Werror is

Re: make distcheck in tinderbox [was Re: make check failures- gnome-vfs, e-d-s, at-spi]

2005-07-18 Thread Ikke
On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 15:13 -0400, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: On Mon, 18 Jul 2005, Luis Villa wrote: build/distribute daily snapshots like we used to. Not sure if that is worth the admitted pain of nagging/etc., especially since ATM no one is offering to build daily snaps. I'm willing to