On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 20:51, Jason D. Clinton m...@jasonclinton.com wrote:
My question to you would be, why didn't agreement ever get reached? Why,
four years later, are we still arguing about desktop activity? I see a
failure of cooperation; not of the design team's but rather of the whole
On Wed, 2012-04-25 at 21:04 -0400, Shaun McCance wrote:
On Wed, 2012-04-25 at 18:38 -0400, Marina Zhurakhinskaya wrote:
Hi!
I'd like to propose a new lock screen as a 3.6 feature. The new lock screen
will
- be styled to have a uniform look and feel as the rest of GNOME Shell
- be
On Wed, 2012-04-25 at 21:04 -0400, Shaun McCance wrote:
On Wed, 2012-04-25 at 18:38 -0400, Marina Zhurakhinskaya wrote:
Hi!
I'd like to propose a new lock screen as a 3.6 feature. The new lock screen
will
- be styled to have a uniform look and feel as the rest of GNOME Shell
- be
Hello Phil,
On Wed, 2012-04-25 at 21:54 +0100, Phil Housley wrote:
Hello Gnome,
(This is a bit long. Summary: Combine good bits of Gnome and Android
application models.)
I know there has already been a lot of discussion around the new style
of Gnome applications, with the maximised by
As I understand it, typing the password will switch to the password
dialog, which is about as keyboard/non-touch friendly as it gets :-)
Florian
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On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 2:42 PM, Federico Mena Quintero
feder...@gnome.org wrote:
On Wed, 2012-04-25 at 15:31 +0100, Sergey Udaltsov wrote:
no way to find the audience that would be unbiased? Are you just
implying that the current userbase of GNOME is so geekish that fair
survey among
It isn't so much how people configure their keyboards as how they (a)
switch between different languages/alphabets
So, this means the option group grp:* is included. Which is obvious anyway...
(b) insert special characters.
Thus, misc:typo should be there, right? It was mentioned in your
On Wed, 2012-04-25 at 18:38 -0400, Marina Zhurakhinskaya wrote:
Hi!
I'd like to propose a new lock screen as a 3.6 feature. The new lock screen
will
snip
- allow user authentication with a password, pin, fingerprint, or smartcard
Looking forward to that!
On 26 April 2012 10:12, Bastien Nocera had...@hadess.net wrote:
Hello Phil,
On Wed, 2012-04-25 at 21:54 +0100, Phil Housley wrote:
Hello Gnome,
(This is a bit long. Summary: Combine good bits of Gnome and Android
application models.)
I know there has already been a lot of discussion
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On 26/04/12 03:04, Shaun McCance wrote:
But I share Bhaavan's concern with having to physically drag the
screen up. It's very cumbersome with a mouse. And aside from being
inconvenient, without keyboard-only use it's not accessible.
When a
Hi Allan
On Wed, 2012-04-25 at 14:27 +0100, Allan Day wrote:
Hi all,
Apologies in advance for the long mail - there was no other way.
There have been a few design-related threads on the list recently. I’m
going to try and reboot those discussions in a slightly different and,
I hope,
Hi all,
Last release we introduced the ability for applications to define a
GMenu (or 'application menu'). This means that applications now have a
place to locate global application (as opposed to per window) menu
items. Some applications have already started to use a GMenu, and
while this is
On Thu, 2012-04-26 at 13:55 +0100, Allan Day wrote:
Hi all,
Last release we introduced the ability for applications to define a
GMenu (or 'application menu'). This means that applications now have a
place to locate global application (as opposed to per window) menu
items. Some applications
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Bastien Nocera had...@hadess.net wrote:
On Thu, 2012-04-26 at 13:55 +0100, Allan Day wrote:
Hi all,
Last release we introduced the ability for applications to define a
GMenu (or 'application menu'). This means that applications now have a
place to locate
On 26 April 2012 09:35, Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Bastien Nocera had...@hadess.net wrote:
On Thu, 2012-04-26 at 13:55 +0100, Allan Day wrote:
Hi all,
Last release we introduced the ability for applications to define a
GMenu (or 'application menu').
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 10:04 AM, Jeremy Bicha jbi...@ubuntu.com wrote:
On 26 April 2012 09:35, Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Bastien Nocera had...@hadess.net wrote:
On Thu, 2012-04-26 at 13:55 +0100, Allan Day wrote:
Hi all,
Last release we introduced
On Thu, 2012-04-26 at 10:04 -0400, Jeremy Bicha wrote:
On 26 April 2012 09:35, Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Bastien Nocera had...@hadess.net wrote:
On Thu, 2012-04-26 at 13:55 +0100, Allan Day wrote:
Hi all,
Last release we introduced the ability
On 26 April 2012 10:10, Jasper St. Pierre jstpie...@mecheye.net wrote:
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 10:04 AM, Jeremy Bicha jbi...@ubuntu.com wrote:
On 26 April 2012 09:35, Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Bastien Nocera had...@hadess.net wrote:
On Thu,
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 4:04 PM, Jeremy Bicha jbi...@ubuntu.com wrote:
I don't know if Unity supports having both regular menus and a Gmenu
at the same time.
I don't know either, but I don't think it is relevant here - there is GMenu
support for *both* app menu and window menu in
On Thu, 2012-04-26 at 11:32 +0200, Florian Müllner wrote:
As I understand it, typing the password will switch to the password
dialog, which is about as keyboard/non-touch friendly as it gets :-)
If the implementation is just like the screenshots, I would never know
that's the case without
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 10:23 AM, Jeremy Bicha jbi...@ubuntu.com wrote:
...
I believe we were talking about keeping File/Edit/View while adding a
GMenu. If so, the UI would be quite confusing if some things were
taken out of the normal File/Edit/View menus. If all we're talking
about is how
Hey Maciej,
Why use PIN at all? (Apparently that is question for Windows 8 as
well).
Or is it for smartcards?
PIN entry is an alternative authorization method for form factors where a
typically long text entry (especially with numerals thrown in) is too much of a
burden, like on a tablet
Hi Shaun,
I *love* the idea of showing notifications and allowing control of
media playback. It's something I've wanted for a very, very long
time.
But I share Bhaavan's concern with having to physically drag the
screen up. It's very cumbersome with a mouse. And aside from being
On Thu, 2012-04-26 at 10:23 -0400, Jeremy Bicha wrote:
On 26 April 2012 10:10, Jasper St. Pierre jstpie...@mecheye.net wrote:
And I thought that desrt and Colin worked very hard to have this work
with Ubuntu. I remember
Colin talking about how hard this was because of integration between
On Thu, 2012-04-26 at 10:55 -0400, Jakub Steiner wrote:
Hey Maciej,
Why use PIN at all? (Apparently that is question for Windows 8 as
well).
Or is it for smartcards?
PIN entry is an alternative authorization method for form factors where a
typically long text entry (especially with
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 4:35 PM, Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com wrote:
In some cases there will be a GMenu and a menu bar (with
File/Edit/View...) for the same app, at least in the short term.
There is some confusion about terminology here, so Ryan asked me to clarify
:-)
GMenu is a newly
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Ted Gould t...@gould.cx wrote:
On Thu, 2012-04-26 at 10:23 -0400, Jeremy Bicha wrote:
On 26 April 2012 10:10, Jasper St. Pierre jstpie...@mecheye.net wrote:
And I thought that desrt and Colin worked very hard to have this work
with Ubuntu. I remember
Colin
GMenu is a very good idea. The menu system has remained stagnant since the
early software design days, and has become archaic. There is ambiguity as
to location of various options (read Preferences in Edit or Tools, Select
in Edit or elsewhere), For a new user, this is an evil which can be done
2012/4/25 Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com:
But there are challenges and things we can do better. Among those
obstacles, I see:
snip
* giving people a stake in the project - the danger of design-led
development is that people feel that the project is no longer theirs.
They want to feel they
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 7:07 AM, Phil Housley undeconstruc...@gmail.com wrote:
On 26 April 2012 10:12, Bastien Nocera had...@hadess.net wrote:
Hello Phil,
On Wed, 2012-04-25 at 21:54 +0100, Phil Housley wrote:
Hello Gnome,
(This is a bit long. Summary: Combine good bits of Gnome and Android
Hi all,
Sorry in advance for the long e-mail and any eventual harsher remark :)
For some time now it seems that the way to create, lets say a new core
GNOME application has been to get someone from the design team to publish
rude mockups for a couple of screens in that App and then passing it on
Tomeu:
On 04/26/12 02:06 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 15:10, Alberto Ruizar...@gnome.org wrote:
I'm afraid that interfering in the maintainer's responsibilities is a
very big can of worms, more likely to do harm than good. There's
something powerful in how a maintainer
2012/4/26 Jakub Steiner jim...@redhat.com
We briefly touch (pun intended) on keyboard interaction at the bottom of
the page. You should be able to unroll the curtain with Esc.
If there is a sign on the curtain which says: Press Esc to roll up the
curtain this will be easily discoverable and
On Thu, 2012-04-26 at 11:54 -0400, Jasper St. Pierre wrote:
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Ted Gould t...@gould.cx wrote:
While there are few today, our goal here was to ensure that as new
applications are developed it is expected that they'd use GMenuModel
instead of traditional GTK
Hi,
On 25/04/12 23:38, Marina Zhurakhinskaya wrote:
Technically, the code for fading out the screen and displaying the
lock screen when the user becomes active again will be added to GNOME
Shell, and the gnome-screensaver will no longer be used.
There are security implications of this
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Luca Ferretti lferr...@gnome.org wrote:
2012/4/25 Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com:
From my point of view the main issue (at least perceived as issue) in
current design-develop workflow is explanation.
While our design/ux team is able to produce great ideas,
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 6:41 PM, Tomas Frydrych
tf+lists.gn...@r-finger.com wrote:
Hi,
On 25/04/12 23:38, Marina Zhurakhinskaya wrote:
Technically, the code for fading out the screen and displaying the
lock screen when the user becomes active again will be added to GNOME
Shell, and the
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On 26/04/12 18:16, Luca Ferretti wrote:
While our design/ux team is able to produce great ideas,
frequently the only visible product of design work is a wiki page
with poor info. Or, at least, poor compared with documents and info
provided by
On 04/27/2012 01:00 AM, Jasper St. Pierre wrote:
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 6:41 PM, Tomas Frydrych
tf+lists.gn...@r-finger.com wrote:
Hi,
On 25/04/12 23:38, Marina Zhurakhinskaya wrote:
Technically, the code for fading out the screen and displaying the
lock screen when the user becomes active
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 12:45 AM, Stef Walter st...@gnome.org wrote:
On 04/27/2012 01:00 AM, Jasper St. Pierre wrote:
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 6:41 PM, Tomas Frydrych
tf+lists.gn...@r-finger.com wrote:
Hi,
On 25/04/12 23:38, Marina Zhurakhinskaya wrote:
Technically, the code for fading out
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