Looks like all recent reports are pointing to bug 1683383 instead so
let's just use that.
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Daniel (or anyone else), can you explain why the current state of things
with keyboard shortcuts is considered better?
Here is how I see it works in Windows and Ubuntu.
How it works in Windows:
(I press Ctrl) + (I release Ctrl) = the mouse pointer is shown.
(I press Ctrl
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@nrbrtx it works for me (Ubuntu 20.04 LTS)
Strl+Shift+t now works but still switches layout.
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@nrbrtx it works! Thank you very much!
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@Yuriy Chernichenko (nikosid)
I have just uploaded newest HWE package versions with latest security fixes to
the PPA.
You have to try adding it again and upgrading Xorg packages from it.
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@nrbrtx, hi. Thank you so much for your patch. I'm using it for more than one
year, but few days ago I reinstalled my OS and it doesn't work now. I tried to
completely reinstall it but it didn't help.
I use xubuntu 18.04.5 LTS.
Can you help or give some advice?
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The GNOME issue is completely separate from the problem of "triggering
layout change on press", as GNOME does not use the kxb behavior at all -
it actually disables any options set using setxkbmap - instead it
listens to keyboard events and implements its own custom behavior that
mimics Mac OS.
I am running ubuntu 19.10 with recent gnome 3 and did not find any
working solution to switch layout on Ctrl +Shift shortcuts key release.
Eventualy i wrote a dirty workoround to fit my needs.
https://gitlab.com/softkot/gnome3_xinput_layout_switch
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It is not a bug, its a feature. To speed up the typing. Set the layout
change on CapsLock. (In a case you need old caps behavior, you get it
with shift + Caoslock)
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I have an Ubuntu 16.04, how I can restore the normal behavior? I mean
change on Keypress
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I would say, that change on Keypress _must_ be the default behavior,
because in an opposite case, there are problems of typing, if toogle in
on CapsLock, and you are typing rapidly.
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@Norbert
I have Laptop with 16.04.
And Alt+Shift, Alt+Shift+Tab are working ok.
I have also tested it with new default installation in Virtualbox.
And it also works fine.
And it doesn't matter if i use Mate or Unity.
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Just a silent reminder: I have created a PPA (
https://launchpad.net/~nrbrtx/+archive/ubuntu/xorg-hotkeys ) with
patched packages for Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (xenial, with HWE) and upwards
(including upcoming 19.10), use its description for instructions.
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So. This problem is still here.
I found following situation:
On older 16.04 layout is changing with releasing Control/Shift/Alt keys.
In 18.04 layout is changing while pressing key combination.
May be it is setting somewhere in X.org?
Is it possible to find and change it?
It can affect all people
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Someone should revert this 'Fix Released' status - it is here again in
18.04 (and according to forums in 17.x also).
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For myself I created temporary hack allowing to switch Keyboard layouts
(en<->ru) by Ctrl+Shift on key release. My method does not interfere
with other shortcuts. I use it myself on daily basis.
It's simple Python script which listen to Ctrl+Shift key combination and switch
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Why does it not in default settings?
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FYI the bug may be temporarily fixed on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (with HWE),
Ubuntu 18.04 LTS (and Mint 19) using packages from my PPA (
https://launchpad.net/~nrbrtx/+archive/ubuntu/xorg-hotkeys or "
ppa:nrbrtx/xorg-hotkeys " ). It contains patched Xorg (with patch from
kyak -
Created attachment 131147
Proposed extension of the XKB protocol.
> Therefore, my proposal for you (or anyone else who is interested in changing
> the behavior) is to provide a patch against the spec.
That is a very good proposal. The patch formalises my proposal from comment
#112. An
Nikolay,
First, background: I am not a xorg developer, but I develop the XKB
library used by most Wayland compositors (xkbcommon). The behavior there
is the same.
IMO it is worth having a discussion about the behavior. A nice thing
about XKB is that it has a specification. It is easier to
Me too very upset about this bug: there is patch for several yers - no
one cares. I suggest compromise: add autotools|meson option to enable
this feature. At least every distro would be able to decide whether they
want to provide nonstandard behavior.
I also see that this bug is assigned but
Created attachment 126753
xorg-server-1.18.4-xkb-switch-on-release.patch
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xorg-server-1.18.4-xkb-switch-on-release.patch
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Did the old patch work for you? I mean could you switch the layout
pressing Ctrl while combos like Ctrl-S also worked as expected?
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Thanks Andreas, I had missed this in the previous discussion.
First, I must say it's a very clever hack :)
I have not looked at it deeply yet, but I have some initial questions:
- Can you describe a bit how you imagine the changes to xkeyboard-config
would look with this approach?
- Do you
Try, please, apply your patch, assign the left Ctrl as switching key and
then to save something in the kate editor (or other) using Ctrl+S...
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> Try, please, apply your patch, assign the left Ctrl as switching key and
> then to save something in the kate editor (or other) using Ctrl+S...
You mean to say the new patch doesn't work for you? Please be more
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You are right, thanks for pointing that out. Updated patch attached.
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(In reply to Serge Roussak from comment #148)
> Yes, exactly. If I assign the left Ctrl as the switching key, then if I try
> to save a file in a text editor with the Ctrl+S, I got the "s" char in the
> file.
And the layout switching - does it occur when you press Ctrl+s? Could
you please test
(In reply to kyak from comment #142)
I mean dereferencing sendEvent pointer.
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> (In reply to Oleg from comment #151)
> > Did the old patch work for you? I mean could you switch the layout pressing
> > Ctrl while combos like Ctrl-S also worked as expected?
>
> Which patch do you mean when you say "old"?
The one that was made
Created attachment 129860
The same patch, but based on 1.19.1
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(In reply to Oleg from comment #153)
> (In reply to Serge Roussak from comment #152)
> > (In reply to Oleg from comment #151)
> > > Did the old patch work for you? I mean could you switch the layout
> > > pressing
> > > Ctrl while combos like Ctrl-S also worked as expected?
> >
> > Which patch
Dear xorg developers. This is an old bug. In fact this is a 13 years old bug.
And it has been at least 7 years since this bug had a patch to fix it.
Yes, existing patch breaks specification. But one would seem that the fact that
patch existed for 7 years and was applied by default by popular
(In reply to Kovács Viktor from comment #165)
> Why don't you change your layout switcher key-combination? You can set up
> another key-combinations for russian and different key-combination for
> english keyboard,too. That's KDE's problem, that allow choose frequently
> used key combinations.
> - Can you describe a bit how you imagine the changes to xkeyboard-config
> would look with this approach?
We would need changes wherever we want the new behaviour. I would prefer to
create new options for group switching, rather than modifying existing options.
Comments #117 and #118 show
Created attachment 129861
The same patch, but based on 1.19.1 (fixed)
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>
> And the layout switching - does it occur when you press Ctrl+s? Could you
> please test with Ctrl+Shift?
No, it does not. Currently I could not to test multi-keys switching
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Yes, exactly. If I assign the left Ctrl as the switching key, then if I
try to save a file in a text editor with the Ctrl+S, I got the "s" char
in the file.
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> Did the old patch work for you? I mean could you switch the layout pressing
> Ctrl while combos like Ctrl-S also worked as expected?
Which patch do you mean when you say "old"?
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This bug is not exclusive to KDE. I use XFCE on a different machine as
well, and encounter the bug there. Various people in this thread have
reported it in other WMs. Is there a reason why the solution should not
be, as the title says, that XKB kick its hotkeys on release rather than
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> (In reply to Kovács Viktor from comment #178)
> > Kubuntu grants Control+Shift+K combination. Is it acceptable?
>
> The question is not, largely speaking, about whether there is any shortcut
> available. The question is largely specifically about
Created attachment 134843
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Sorry, I'm Hungarian.
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> Kubuntu grants Control+Shift+K combination. Is it acceptable?
The question is not, largely speaking, about whether there is any
shortcut available. The question is largely specifically about shortcuts
such as Ctrl+Shift or Alt+Shift, which due to
(In reply to Vitaly Shishakov from comment #0)
> I used to use Ctrl-Shift combination to switch keyboard layouts (ru <--> us)
>
> but in this case i cant use any of the Ctrl-Shift-* hotkeys in any software
> i try.
>
> I noticed, that the keyboard layout becomes swithced as soon an both keys
I use both Windows and Linux. BTW Many people don't have a choise of the
OS on their jobs.
I may provide a patch that would make it available to switch the
behaviour in the runtime (I guess a line in xorg.conf would be fine). So
we don't break the standard, people don't need to recompile xorg
I understand, that you must switch between Russian and English layout.
The programs uses latin-based hotkeys, I did understand. In my opinion,
in the future would be change, if the translator projects "translate"
the hotkeys, for example to cyrillyc letters, too. (then won't need
switches between
@Kovács Viktor, this report is not only about "original" problem, but
all the problems affected by current implementation. I described other
one with modifier for national characters, once you define such key you
cannot use it as shortcut modifier.
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Original problem was, that Shishakov uses ctrl+shift keyboard layout
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Why do not change It? It is much easier thing, I think.
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The issue of fixing the spec was raised before, and the answer thn was:
(Vasily Khoruzhick from comment #37)
> Daniel is now working on XKB2, so fixing/changing XKB1 has no sense :)
As far as I know, XKB2 was never released, not even as a draft.
Are you saying that the situation has changed and
No, I am only talking about myself, as a developer of xkbcommon; as I
said, I am not a xorg developer so I cannot speak for that. I do not
really mind if the spec is actually changed or not, what I am interested
in is:
1. A clear and precise description of the proposed change.
2. A serious
With all due respect, I hope this is not the usual response to X bugs. I
do not think it is unreasonable to ask that shortcuts be made available
from the set of control keys, since this is a very widespread feature
across operating systems. I have used Kubuntu for the past several
years, and made
High, Viktor!
I'm using Ctrl+Shift for twelve years since Win XP. I use this
combintaion on my win machines. So it's definetely not an option for me.
Since I use Cyrillic layout I switch layouts frequently (people using
Latin layouts are less affected). Imagine saving action shortcut
"Ctrl+S"
(In reply to Yan Pas from comment #176)
> I use both Windows and Linux. BTW Many people don't have a choise of the OS
> on their jobs.
>
> I may provide a patch that would make it available to switch the behaviour
> in the runtime (I guess a line in xorg.conf would be fine). So we don't
> break
(In reply to Nikolay from comment #155)
> There is now once more spike of activity here - probably because Ubuntu
> 17.04 was released recently which dropped this patch because it was not
> compatible with newer xorg. kyak has provided an updated patch, but it would
> take a lot of time for
After the next update of the package "xserver-xorg-input-evdev-
hwe-16.04" (with dependencies) from the version "1: 2.10.2-1ubuntu1 ~
16.04.1" to the version "1: 2.10.5-1ubuntu1 ~ 16.04.1 ", in the KDE
shell, the language switch does not happen when the keys are released,
but when pressed.
Why don't you change your layout switcher key-combination? You can set
up another key-combinations for russian and different key-combination
for english keyboard,too. That's KDE's problem, that allow choose
frequently used key combinations.
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> Created attachment 129860 [details] [review]
> The same patch, but based on 1.19.1
You are missing dereference in XkbSA_LockMods case...
> case XkbSA_LockMods:
>+filter = _XkbNextFreeFilter(xkbi);
>+sendEvent=_XkbFilterLockMods(xkbi,
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Not really.. This is something that has changed from 1.18 to 1.19.
"act" is now already passed as reference to XkbActionGetFilter.
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Viktor, could you please elaborate how exactly that may be useful here?
I would also like to ask you to make sure you contribute useful content
to this discussion, or if you cannot, resist from posting. I don’t think
it helps anyone to to support flamewars in this bug report, or even make
the
All current Ubuntu versions are affected and RHEL too. And nobody cares.
14 years of doing nothing. My congratulations!
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upstream.
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Just tested simple idea on Ubuntu 16.04.4 LTS with MATE DE.
Out-the-box it has Xorg 1.18.4 which perfectly allow user to set for example
keyboard shortcut for keyboard layout switching.
But when I install HWE on 16.04 LTS I get newer Xorg 1.19.5.
Debian 8 (Xorg 1.16.4) and 9 (Xorg 1.19.2) have
Did somebody tested Russian rulemak keyboard layout? It is between the
extra layouts. It is based on russian layout with latin letters. I' m
not a russian man, but I think, just testing first is a good idea!
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Did you changed your opinion after for years of not fixing this bug?
Users still need this functionality (see https://community.ubuntu.com/t
/keyboard-layout-switching-problems-and-poll/2876 and
https://askubuntu.com/q/1009352/66509 as examples).
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(In reply to Daniel Stone from comment #191)
> Another, probably better, way to do it would be to define a new flag like
> XkbSA_HasGroupFlags inside the XkbModAction flags field when group_flags and
> group_XXX are valid rather than potentially garbage. That would avoid the
> whole
(In reply to Alex Efros from comment #184)
> There is a patch, working good enough for years without creating any new
> (practical) issues. In comment #161 is was proposed to make it configurable
> option to make everyone happy and let users choose between using compliant
> protocol or working
(In reply to Andreas Wettstein from comment #190)
> No news since. Apart from the formal proposal, there are some old patches
> for its implementation:
> https://lists.x.org/archives/xorg-devel/2012-November/034427.html
> https://lists.x.org/archives/xorg-devel/2012-November/034430.html
>
There seems to have been a proposed protocol extension (comment #159
etc.) Can anyone shed light, for the outside user, as to the current
status of this proposal? Thanks.
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> Can anyone shed light, for the outside user, as to the current status of
> this proposal? Thanks.
No news since. Apart from the formal proposal, there are some old patches for
its implementation:
(In reply to Kovács Viktor from comment #181)
> Sorry, on newer Linux you can set up hot key combination for that problem as
> graphical UI settings, older Linux versions will not be updated. May I close
> It?
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(In reply to Alex Efros from comment #184)
> (In reply to Kovács Viktor from comment #181)
> > Sorry, on newer Linux you can set up hot key combination for that problem as
> > graphical UI settings, older Linux versions will not be updated.
>
> What exactly "newer Linux" is supposed to mean? I'm
(In reply to k0fe from comment #185)
> (In reply to Alex Efros from comment #184)
> > There is a patch, working good enough for years without creating any new
> > (practical) issues. In comment #161 is was proposed to make it configurable
> > option to make everyone happy and let users choose
(In reply to Alex Efros from comment #186)
> (In reply to k0fe from comment #185)
> > (In reply to Alex Efros from comment #184)
> > > There is a patch, working good enough for years without creating any new
> > > (practical) issues. In comment #161 is was proposed to make it
> > > configurable
>
(In reply to Jan Pohanka from comment #182)
> (In reply to Kovács Viktor from comment #181)
> > Sorry, on newer Linux you can set up hot key combination for that problem as
> > graphical UI settings, older Linux versions will not be updated. May I close
> > It?
>
> With all respect to you... Why
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