Re: [dev-biblio] Re: Re: embedded references/functional requirements wiki page

2006-04-05 Thread Bruce D'Arcus
On Apr 5, 2006, at 11:50 AM, Matt Price wrote: should it be a little more extensive here? so for instnace: I am extremely disorganized, and in the absence of a satisfactory bibliogrpahic solution have dealt with various bibs in the last few years. On one paper I use one bib, for another

Re: [dev-biblio] Re: Re: embedded references/functional requirements wiki page

2006-04-05 Thread Matt Price
On Wed, Apr 05, 2006 at 12:18:27PM -0400, Bruce D'Arcus wrote: On Apr 5, 2006, at 12:12 PM, Matt Price wrote: sorry, I didn't mean URI's, I meant the metadata work atthe ODF TC. OIC. There's nothing yet, but so long as we agree on allowing standard embedded metadata, I believe

Re: [dev-biblio] Re: Re: embedded references/functional requirements wiki page

2006-04-05 Thread Matthias Steffens
On Wed, 5-Apr-2006 10:27 -0400, Bruce D'Arcus wrote: If I ping a server and give a list of isbns and dois and an optional username, problem solved; no? Yes and no, It depends on the quality of the bibliographic data. [...] OK, fair enough. But we need to design the system to enable what

Re: [dev-biblio] Re: Re: embedded references/functional requirements wiki page

2006-04-05 Thread Bruce D'Arcus
On Apr 5, 2006, at 2:24 PM, Matthias Steffens wrote: However, when I'm writing a paper, 95% of the cited references do already exist in my bibliographic database and I want to use these (and not a copy from somewhere else) since I know that I've verified my own entries for correctness

Re: [dev-biblio] Base forms (was Minimal Target)

2006-04-05 Thread David Wilson
On Wednesday 05 April 2006 8:49 pm, Bruce D'Arcus wrote: On Apr 5, 2006, at 12:26 AM, David Wilson wrote: You can use Xforms in OOo but it is harder to use than Base forms which are of the point and click type, to link database fields to form fields. So what kind of form functionality

Re: [dev-biblio] Re: Re: embedded references/functional requirements wiki page

2006-04-05 Thread Matthias Steffens
On Wed, 5-Apr-2006 15:29 -0400, Bruce D'Arcus wrote: Ideally, multiple identifiers would be stored and sent to the bibliographic database which could then decide what to do. Yes, ideally. But I'm not sure how practical that is (to get implemented). The database would need to perform

Re: [dev-biblio] Re: Re: embedded references/functional requirements wiki page

2006-04-05 Thread David Wilson
On Thursday 06 April 2006 4:24 am, Matthias Steffens wrote: On Wed, 5-Apr-2006 10:27 -0400, Bruce D'Arcus wrote: Yes, that's a very nice feature. However, when I'm writing a paper, 95% of the cited references do already exist in my bibliographic database and I want to use these (and not a

[dev-biblio] develop parallel application to test toolchain and api?

2006-04-05 Thread James Howison
I may be crazy, but has anyone considered building a 'proof-of- concept' _application_ that works similarly to the way intended for OOo? Yes, developing it outside OOo, but using the future file format as much as possible (obviously not doing the rich formatting etc, but getting the

[dev-biblio] Re: Re: embedded references/functional requirements wiki page

2006-04-05 Thread Matej Cepl
Bruce D'Arcus wrote: Matej is just asking for the ability to regenerate the complete list, rather than only allow appending and deleting individual items. That's probably sensible in general. Certainly, all used references should be (in the original format-agnostic shape) included in ODT

[dev-biblio] Re: Re: Re: embedded references/functional requirements wiki page

2006-04-05 Thread Matej Cepl
Bruce D'Arcus wrote: where possible to define citation keys. In some cases (dois, isbns, etc.) this is easier than others, but the pay-off will be large. If my citation key in the document is identified with urn:isbn:32343545 it's trivial to grab the associate bib record from many sources. If

Re: [dev-biblio] Re: Re: embedded references/functional requirements wiki page

2006-04-05 Thread Bruce D'Arcus
On Apr 5, 2006, at 6:06 PM, Matthias Steffens wrote: I'd also perhaps default to my database and user account, with options to ping other servers if data is missing. Yes, exactly! Wouldn't that solve the problems with the best balance of concerns? Yes. So do the two yes responses

Re: [dev-biblio] develop parallel application to test toolchain and api?

2006-04-05 Thread Bruce D'Arcus
On Apr 5, 2006, at 6:59 PM, James Howison wrote: I may be crazy, but has anyone considered building a 'proof-of-concept' _application_ that works similarly to the way intended for OOo? Yes, developing it outside OOo, but using the future file format as much as possible (obviously not doing