Re: [dev-biblio] funding (was Bibliographic Issues should be added to the marketing strategy)
On Fri June 16 2006 23:51, David Wilson wrote: > On Saturday 17 June 2006 7:44 am, Bruce D'Arcus wrote: > > I like the pledge idea too, though perhaps before doing that we ought > > to come up with the most important tasks, and some rough target > > amount? > > Yes it is work a try I will do some research, see how how other project do > it. Also I will draw up the list of tasks and try and set some target > amounts. I will try to help keep those tasks as developer oriented as possible. One problem I obviously had was trying to interpret the citation requirements in terms of actual C++ code and OpenOffice.org design. I still have relatively little time, but I should be able to help a small bit with this task. (Hopefully this may not preclude me from participating in bounty hunting in a few months if my free time becomes more abundant :) -- CPH : openoffice.org contributor Maybe your question has been answered already? http://user-faq.openoffice.org/#FAQ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [dev-biblio] Bibliographic Issues should be added to the marketing strategy
--- David Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks for the suggestion . I had a look but I could > not find any description > of this could you find a reference for me ? Here is an example with details of pledges: http://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility/browse/name?app_id=186;pledge=1 Access 97 currently has the most pledges. -Matt __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [dev-biblio] Bibliographic Issues should be added to the marketing strategy
On Thursday 15 June 2006 10:34 am, Matthew Yates wrote: > David, > > I like the pledge idea. Codeweavers set up something > similar where users can pledge money for a "favorite" > windows application. The Codeweavers developers can > then prioritize development to get new applications > functioning based on the pledges for it. When they > get it working, they collect the pledges for it. > > The only problem is that people can be fickle and > financial situations of people change over time so > there is no certainty that all pledges will be > collected. It Codeweavers case, for any pledge less > than $500, they take your word for it. Over $500, > they make you put money in escrow at www.escrow.com. > Thanks for the suggestion . I had a look but I could not find any description of this could you find a reference for me ? > Even with the collection uncertainty, the pledge idea > is a good one and is probably better than direct > contributions. > > I don't suppose Sun would share customer e-mail > addresses in academia? It would be nice to contact > users at universities to try and drum up pledges. It would be good if they did. But I do not imagine they would. We may have find another approach. > > -Matt > > --- David Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > There is still a remaining positive point, or some > > light at the end of a long > > tunnel, and that is that Sun developers have agreed > > that bibliographic > > 'improvements' should be in OOo version 3. No date > > is yet set for version 3 > > but I would guess that it is more than a 12 months > > away. As far as I can tell > > The Sun developers are still flat out bug fixing > > version 2, and they have not > > started a new round of enhancement planning. > > > > I have put in two submissions to give talks at the > > OOo conference in Lyon, > > France in Sept 2006 where I hope to promote the > > Bibliographic Project. I am > > depended upon getting a subsidy for the > > Australia-France airfare. We should > > hear if this is accepted or not in the next few > > weeks. > > > > Regarding private funding, I have been somewhat > > reluctant in the past, the > > principle reason reason was that we probably needed > > several thousand > > dollars, and I was worried that if people sent in > > less that the amount > > needed, I would be left holding not enough money and > > people pissed off > > because nothing was happening. > > > > Perhaps we could set up scheme where people can make > > pledges for funding. And > > the pledges would only be collected when we have a > > enough pledged for the > > task ? If the pledged amount was not delivered by a > > certain time it could be > > refunded, or kept, depending on the donor's wishes. > > Anyway I am will to > > discuss ways and means. > > > > > > regards > > > > > > David > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thursday 15 June 2006 3:04 am, Matthew Yates > > > > wrote: > > > Wow, this series of e-mails is depressing. I am a > > > professor at the University of Rochester and use > > > Openoffice daily, so along with Matt Price and > > > > Bruce > > > > > D'Arcus, there are at least a few people > > > > interested in > > > > > using Openoffice in academia. I've been following > > > this issue for some time (I'm the one who > > > > suggested > > > > > the failed attempt to get funding from the NSF > > > > CCLI > > > > > program). Bibliographic support is the ONLY > > > > reason I > > > > > do not use Openoffice exclusively and have my > > > > students > > > > > use it exclusively as well. I otherwise love it. > > > > But > > > > > right now I use Endnote on Linux using Codeweavers > > > Crossover office to add/remove citations to papers > > > > I > > > > > write. I must then us MS Word to do the final > > > formatting of the bibiography before submitting > > > > for > > > > > publication. > > > > > > I was really hopeful a year or so ago that better > > > bibliographic support would be built in by now. I > > > > am > > > > > disturbed that people seem to be giving up now, > > > > but I > > > > > am not sure what can be done to help. If Sun > > > developers will not be able to work on this, could > > > they provide a reasonable estimate of coding man > > > > hours > > > > > needed based on the specs (and perhaps a cost > > > estimate)? Could the community (me included) try > > > > to > > > > > raise funding that could be ear-marked for this > > > project? If enough money could be set aside, then > > > perhaps the development could move forward. As > > > > with > > > > > many people, I have little free time for this, but > > > > it > > > > > is an important issue for me and I would like to > > > > help > > > > > somehow. > > > > > > -Matt > > > > > > __ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > > > > protection around > > > > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ---
Re: [dev-biblio] funding (was Bibliographic Issues should be added to the marketing strategy)
--- David Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And we do have our first pledge - thank you Mohammad > Al-Ubaydli. > You have a $100 pledge from me as well. Please let me know when a formal framework is selected for making pledges and I will do it. -Matt __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[dev-biblio] Fwd: Site Infrastructure Upgrade: Tuesday 20 June
-- Forwarded Message -- Subject: [project leads] Site Infrastructure Upgrade: Tuesday 20 June Date: Saturday 17 June 2006 12:54 am From: Louis Suarez-Potts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: dev@openoffice.org, dev@native-lang.openoffice.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Apologies: I meant, of course, 20 June, not 20 March. :-) All, Commencing Tuesday 20 June at 17:00 UTC, the OpenOffice.org site infrastructure will be upgraded. The main site, including mail lists, CVS, Issue Tracker (IssueZilla), and all other elements will be functionally offline for the duration, anticipated to be forty-eight (48) hours. Neither the OpenOffice.org wiki [0], nor anoncvs will be affected. As well, during the outage, a placeholder webpage listing download sites will be posted to www.openoffice.org. CollabNet has worked with the community on this upgrade for several months and together we have sought to ensure that the migration to the new (and improved) infrastructure will go smoothly. We regret the inconvenience this outage will produce. Project leads: Please inform your communities of the migration- related outage and upcoming infrastructure; thanks. For detailed (and useful) information on the upgrade process, see the wiki related to it [1]. Some points... * The new infrastructure, CollabNet Enterprise Edition 3.5.1, should be faster and more robust. For more information on the CEE 3.5.1, see the release notes [2] * "Staticization" has been improved and html pages will be updated more reliably and quickly * The new site allows for the use of the modern versioning system Subversion, and projects can explore its functionality * As to mail lists, forums, and other established functionality, such as Issue Tracker (IssueZilla), all that remains as present * SSH users should notice that new site will have a new IP address * Note: For a period of about twelve hours after the migration process, we will have to run several indexers, and these may affect the behaviour of list and forum archives, among other things; performance may also be affected [0] http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Main_Page [1] http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Infrastructure_Upgrade [2] http://www.collab.net/rn/3_5_1.html Louis Suarez-Potts Community Manager CollabNet - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- -- --- David N. Wilson Co-Project Lead for the Bibliographic OpenOffice Project http://bibliographic.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [dev-biblio] funding (was Bibliographic Issues should be added to the marketing strategy)
On Saturday 17 June 2006 7:44 am, Bruce D'Arcus wrote: > I like the pledge idea too, though perhaps before doing that we ought > to come up with the most important tasks, and some rough target > amount? Yes it is work a try I will do some research, see how how other project do it. Also I will draw up the list of tasks and try and set some target amounts. And we do have our first pledge - thank you Mohammad Al-Ubaydli. > > Also, I wonder if a project like Edubuntu might not be helpful > someway? The homepage says they will be tragetting higher ed in the > future, and their founder has quite a history driving (and funding) > free software. I had heard of it, but had not read any details, which I have now done. It is a Linux distribution aimed at the education market and it uses Openoffice as its office suite. A quick look at the founder, Mark Shuttleworth's blog,would suggest he is well worth contacting. I will work Bruce in composing an approach. regards David > > Bruce > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- --- David N. Wilson Co-Project Lead for the Bibliographic OpenOffice Project http://bibliographic.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[dev-biblio] funding (was Bibliographic Issues should be added to the marketing strategy)
I like the pledge idea too, though perhaps before doing that we ought to come up with the most important tasks, and some rough target amount? Also, I wonder if a project like Edubuntu might not be helpful someway? The homepage says they will be tragetting higher ed in the future, and their founder has quite a history driving (and funding) free software. Bruce - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
