Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 4.0-rc1

2021-03-30 Thread Ben Bromhead
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-16550 :) On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 10:08 AM Mick Semb Wever wrote: > > > > If we could tidy up the others quickly (I'm happy to submit a PR for > > anything that is outstanding) I'm ready to jump on board the train! > > > > > The LICENSE and NOTICE i

Re: Download source release / binary files in source release

2021-03-30 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > I have yet to see a legal reason why including binaries in packages is a > bad thing. How do you review the release? How do you know there's not something that incompatible with the ALv2 in it? With reproducible builds you might be able to do this but I assuming that's not the case here.

Re: Download source release / binary files in source release

2021-03-30 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > The current board agenda item is still not accurate. The PMC members and > the project are not ignoring the issue. Voting +1 on a release with that issue IMO says otherwise, but others may have differing opinions on that. > Also, it would be nice if you could reference this thread, in bot

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 4.0-rc1

2021-03-30 Thread Mick Semb Wever
> > If we could tidy up the others quickly (I'm happy to submit a PR for > anything that is outstanding) I'm ready to jump on board the train! > The LICENSE and NOTICE issues remain unassigned, if you are keen!

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 4.0-rc1

2021-03-30 Thread Ben Bromhead
It was more that I felt bad about raining on the parade, than worried about other reactions :) It's good to hear that there is some confidence from folks that one of the issues is potentially resolvable outside of this vote. If we could tidy up the others quickly (I'm happy to submit a PR for any

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 4.0-rc1

2021-03-30 Thread Mick Semb Wever
> I hate that I need to voice this opinion, … I think it is wonderful that you do! There needs to be more of this, without fear :-) > Please correct me if I'm wrong here, but a RC is something that could be a > GA release and due to the outstanding issues we don't meet that criteria. > Irrespec

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 4.0-rc1

2021-03-30 Thread David Capwell
+1 > On Mar 30, 2021, at 10:53 AM, Blake Eggleston > wrote: > > +1 > >> On Mar 29, 2021, at 6:05 AM, Mick Semb Wever wrote: >> >> Proposing the test build of Cassandra 4.0-rc1 for release. >> >> sha1: 2facbc97ea215faef1735d9a3d5697162f61bc8c >> Git: >> https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf?p=

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 4.0-rc1

2021-03-30 Thread Ben Bromhead
-1 (non-binding) I hate that I need to voice this opinion, as I think this is a wonderful milestone for the project to reach from a technical perspective and it is truly ready for it from that perspective. However given the issues listed by Mick that need to be resolved I don't think this release

Re: GSoC

2021-03-30 Thread Brandon Williams
It probably seems a bit more complicated than it actually is if you aren't familiar with the code base. I can provide a quick high level overview of how this ticket would be accomplished: First, add the configuration parameter. This would involve adding it to o.a.c.config.Config.java[0] with a d

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 4.0-rc1

2021-03-30 Thread Blake Eggleston
+1 > On Mar 29, 2021, at 6:05 AM, Mick Semb Wever wrote: > > Proposing the test build of Cassandra 4.0-rc1 for release. > > sha1: 2facbc97ea215faef1735d9a3d5697162f61bc8c > Git: > https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf?p=cassandra.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/tags/4.0-rc1-tentative > Maven Artifacts: > h

Re: Download source release / binary files in source release

2021-03-30 Thread Mick Semb Wever
> That’s not very in the spirit of open source > and I am disappointed again by the ASFs role in this — which continues to > be ambiguous and at the cost of its users and developers. > Jordan, we share the same concerns and frustrations. But, do please be careful not to divide the room. We are a

Re: Download source release / binary files in source release

2021-03-30 Thread Benedict Elliott Smith
There is no legal reason; this was disavowed on LEGAL-288. The ostensible reason is that Roy Fielding, who filed the papers of incorporation, interprets the charter to require this. I don't think, however, anybody has challenged this interpretation of the charter. I certainly do not interpret it

GSoC

2021-03-30 Thread Isidoro Garcia Gutierrez
Hello everyone, I would like to apply for the idea Global configuration parameter to reject repairs with anti-compaction but I don't know if I have enough skill to do it right. I read that the difficulty is normal but before applying I would l

Re: Download source release / binary files in source release

2021-03-30 Thread Jordan West
I have yet to see a legal reason why including binaries in packages is a bad thing. I’ve read the thread and the documents linked. In fact, it looks like it’s done specifically to avoid legal issues with copy left licenses. It’s very common for Apache to hold on to past policies at the expense of i

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 4.0-rc1

2021-03-30 Thread Jordan West
+1 nb. Very excited to see the project reach this milestone. Congrats everyone and thank you all for the effort and hard work! Jordan On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 8:33 AM Scott Andreas wrote: > +1 nb. > > This is a huge milestone for the project. > > > From:

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 4.0-rc1

2021-03-30 Thread Scott Andreas
+1 nb. This is a huge milestone for the project. From: Paulo Motta Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2021 4:57 AM To: Cassandra DEV Subject: Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 4.0-rc1 +1 Em ter., 30 de mar. de 2021 às 00:25, Dinesh Joshi escreveu: > +1 > > Di

Re: Download source release / binary files in source release

2021-03-30 Thread Joshua McKenzie
FWIW I don't have access to what's being raised with the board so effectively can't participate in this discussion beyond +1'ing Jirsa: Based on this point, I personally won't vote to approve a future release > with binary packages, but I also strongly disagree with the assertion in > that same pa

Re: Download source release / binary files in source release

2021-03-30 Thread Mick Semb Wever
> > It good to see you are taking action, but I think the situation is a > little more seriously that you may realise, I suggest you look at what > actions the board has taken in similar situations in the past. I'll update > the board agenda item to reflect the current situation. > The current bo

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 4.0-rc1

2021-03-30 Thread Paulo Motta
+1 Em ter., 30 de mar. de 2021 às 00:25, Dinesh Joshi escreveu: > +1 > > Dinesh > > > On Mar 29, 2021, at 1:41 PM, Nate McCall wrote: > > > > +1 > > > > > >> On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 2:06 AM Mick Semb Wever wrote: > >> > >> Proposing the test build of Cassandra 4.0-rc1 for release. > >> > >> s

Re: Download source release / binary files in source release

2021-03-30 Thread Benedict Elliott Smith
As I'm sure you're aware, only a couple of people in the community are able to follow or participate in board discussions without being expressly included. On 30/03/2021, 09:51, "Justin Mclean" wrote: Hi, JFYI I've started a discussion about this on the board list [1]. Note that that

Re: [DISCUSS] Releases after 4.0

2021-03-30 Thread Sam Tunnicliffe
+1 > On 29 Mar 2021, at 15:41, Joseph Lynch wrote: > > I am slightly concerned about removing support for critical bug fixes > in 3.0 on a short time-frame (<1 year). I know of at least a few major > installations, including ours, who are just now able to finish > upgrades to 3.0 in production d

Re: Download source release / binary files in source release

2021-03-30 Thread Sam Tunnicliffe
I agree with Jeff. The inclusion of binary dependencies to assist developers building from a source release doesn't seem like a deal breaker to me personally as long as these are purely a convenience and not a requirement. That said, the stance of the ASF as recorded in the incubator thread is

Re: Download source release / binary files in source release

2021-03-30 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, JFYI I've started a discussion about this on the board list [1]. Note that that list is for the board to conduct business on, so please take care in what you post there. Thanks, Justin 1. https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rda27b6bc832d7e36eb12cc93343a358f5848bd10198e0165110ed4fc%40%3Cb