Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 5.0-beta1

2023-11-29 Thread Jacek Lewandowski
> > If we end up not releasing a final 5.0 artifact by a Cassandra Summit it > will signal to the community that we’re prioritizing stability and it could > be a good opportunity to get people to test the beta or RC before we stamp > it as production ready. > I agree with Paulo's comment czw.,

Re: Downgradability

2023-11-29 Thread guo Maxwell
Hello everyone : What is the final conclusion of this discuss ? As https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-18934 has been created , and we know that for system table of different c* version , the schema info may be different as we may add or delete column or modify the table properties in

Fwd: Reminder: CFP for Community Over Code Europe is now open

2023-11-29 Thread Paulo Motta
There will be a Cassandra track at Community Over Code Europe 2024 (formerly known as Apachecon EU) that will happen on Bratislava, Slovakia on 3 Jun 2024. If you have any talks proposals about using, deploying or modifying Apache Cassandra please make a submission before 12 Jan 2024 to speak at

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 5.0-beta1

2023-11-29 Thread Paulo Motta
> if any contributor has an opinion which is not technically refuted it will usually be backed by a PMC via a binding -1 clarifying a bit my personal view: if any contributor has an opinion against a proposal (in this case this release proposal) that is not refuted it will usually be backed by a

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 5.0-beta1

2023-11-29 Thread Paulo Motta
To me, the goal of a beta is to find unknown bugs. If no new bugs are found during a beta release, then it can be automatically promoted to RC via re-tagging. Likewise, if no new bugs are found during a RC after X time, then it can be promoted to final. If we end up not releasing a final 5.0

Re: Pre-commit (devbranch) ci-cassandra.a.o on 5.0 and trunk unavailable

2023-11-29 Thread Ekaterina Dimitrova
Jenkins Trunk is also not running post commit at the moment - pending https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-19083 On Wed, 29 Nov 2023 at 3:38, Mick Semb Wever wrote: > > For broader awareness. > > The debranch job on ci-cassandra.a.o: that used for pre-commit testing; is > currently

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 5.0-beta1

2023-11-29 Thread Nate McCall
On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 3:28 AM Aleksey Yeshchenko wrote: > -1 on cutting a beta1 in this state. An alpha2 would be acceptable now, > but I’m not sure there is significant value to be had from it. Merge the > fixes for outstanding issues listed above, then cut beta1. > Agree with Aleksey. -1

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 5.0-beta1

2023-11-29 Thread Nate McCall
> Even though my opinion doesn't really count here, I do feel compelled to > mention that: > Aaron (and anybody who takes the time to follow this list, really), your opinion matters, that's why we discuss it here.

Cassandra Summit: Engage those networks!

2023-11-29 Thread Patrick McFadin
Hi everyone, We are a couple of weeks away from Cassandra Summit. People get busy and forget to register or miss that there is even a summit happening. Let's make sure everyone who wants to go gets a chance! - If you are going, get on the social media of your choice and let everyone know you'll

Nov. 30 Cassandra virtual meetup with MondayDB and PMC Chair

2023-11-29 Thread Melissa Logan
Tomorrow (Thursday, Nov. 30) please join the Cassandra community for talks from: - mondayDB - Crafting a Database from Scratch with Liran Brimer - The State of the Cassandra Development Community with Josh McKenzie, Cassandra PMC Chair How to join:

Re: [DISCUSSION] CASSANDRA-19001 - JRE vs JDK runtime

2023-11-29 Thread Ekaterina Dimitrova
Thanks, Mick It seems that no one had objections to your suggestion so I will move forward with that: “I suggest, for expediency, to - put a nice failure message in Sjk.java (e.g. "JDK required for this nodetool command"), - add a comment in cassandra.yaml in front of audit_logging_options

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 5.0-beta1

2023-11-29 Thread Caleb Rackliffe
> So in the context of this thread, if I want to try out SAI for example, I don't care as much about consistency edge cases around coordinators or replicas or read repair. That would apply to 19018, not 19011, which is a critical functionality issue. On Wed, Nov 29, 2023 at 12:49 PM Jeremy Hanna

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 5.0-beta1

2023-11-29 Thread Jeremy Hanna
I want to just follow up with functional versus production-worthy. If I'm a user interested in C* 5 and want to try it out as betas come out, I'm looking more for something functional and not perfect. So in the context of this thread, if I want to try out SAI for example, I don't care as much

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 5.0-beta1

2023-11-29 Thread Aaron Ploetz
Even though my opinion doesn't really count here, I do feel compelled to mention that: - No one expects a "beta" release to be perfect, but it does signal that it is "close" to being ready. - An "alpha" release is in fact a LOT scarier than a "beta" release. >From a user perspective, if I was

Re: [VOTE] Release Harry 0.0.2

2023-11-29 Thread Francisco Guerrero
+1 On 2023/11/29 11:14:29 Alex Petrov wrote: > Even though we would like to bring harry in-tree, this is not an immediate > priority. Meanwhile, we need to unblock RPM builds for trunk, which means no > custom jars. We will have at least one more Harry release with outstanding > features to

Re: [VOTE] Release Harry 0.0.2

2023-11-29 Thread Josh McKenzie
+1 On Wed, Nov 29, 2023, at 7:03 AM, Brandon Williams wrote: > +1 > > Kind Regards, > Brandon > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2023 at 5:15 AM Alex Petrov wrote: > > > > Even though we would like to bring harry in-tree, this is not an immediate > > priority. Meanwhile, we need to unblock RPM builds for

Re: Welcome Francisco Guerrero Hernandez as Cassandra Committer

2023-11-29 Thread Andrés de la Peña
Congrats Francisco! On Wed, 29 Nov 2023 at 11:37, Benjamin Lerer wrote: > Congratulations!!! Well deserved! > > Le mer. 29 nov. 2023 à 07:31, Berenguer Blasi > a écrit : > >> Welcome! >> On 29/11/23 2:24, guo Maxwell wrote: >> >> Congrats! >> >> Jacek Lewandowski 于2023年11月29日周三 06:16写道: >>

Re: [DISCUSS] Harry in-tree

2023-11-29 Thread Aleksey Yeshchenko
+1 > On 29 Nov 2023, at 07:23, Marcus Eriksson wrote: > > +1! > > /Marcus > > On Fri, Nov 24, 2023 at 04:43:36PM +0100, Alex Petrov wrote: >> Hi everyone, >> >> With TCM landed, there will be way more Harry tests in-tree: we are using it >> for many coordination tests, and there's now a

Re: [VOTE] Release Harry 0.0.2

2023-11-29 Thread Brandon Williams
+1 Kind Regards, Brandon On Wed, Nov 29, 2023 at 5:15 AM Alex Petrov wrote: > > Even though we would like to bring harry in-tree, this is not an immediate > priority. Meanwhile, we need to unblock RPM builds for trunk, which means no > custom jars. We will have at least one more Harry release

Re: [VOTE] Release Harry 0.0.2

2023-11-29 Thread Aleksey Yeshchenko
+1 > On 29 Nov 2023, at 11:35, Sam Tunnicliffe wrote: > > +1 > >> On 29 Nov 2023, at 11:14, Alex Petrov wrote: >> >> Even though we would like to bring harry in-tree, this is not an immediate >> priority. Meanwhile, we need to unblock RPM builds for trunk, which means no >> custom jars. We

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 5.0-beta1

2023-11-29 Thread Aleksey Yeshchenko
-1 on cutting a beta1 in this state. An alpha2 would be acceptable now, but I’m not sure there is significant value to be had from it. Merge the fixes for outstanding issues listed above, then cut beta1. With TCM and Accord pushed into 5.1, SAI is the headliner user-visible feature. It is what

Re: Welcome Francisco Guerrero Hernandez as Cassandra Committer

2023-11-29 Thread Benjamin Lerer
Congratulations!!! Well deserved! Le mer. 29 nov. 2023 à 07:31, Berenguer Blasi a écrit : > Welcome! > On 29/11/23 2:24, guo Maxwell wrote: > > Congrats! > > Jacek Lewandowski 于2023年11月29日周三 06:16写道: > >> Congrats!!! >> >> wt., 28 lis 2023, 23:08 użytkownik Abe Ratnofsky napisał: >> >>>

Re: [VOTE] Release Harry 0.0.2

2023-11-29 Thread Sam Tunnicliffe
+1 > On 29 Nov 2023, at 11:14, Alex Petrov wrote: > > Even though we would like to bring harry in-tree, this is not an immediate > priority. Meanwhile, we need to unblock RPM builds for trunk, which means no > custom jars. We will have at least one more Harry release with outstanding >

Re: [VOTE] Release Harry 0.0.2

2023-11-29 Thread Marcus Eriksson
+1 On Wed, Nov 29, 2023 at 12:14:29PM +0100, Alex Petrov wrote: > Even though we would like to bring harry in-tree, this is not an immediate > priority. Meanwhile, we need to unblock RPM builds for trunk, which means no > custom jars. We will have at least one more Harry release with

Re: [DISCUSS] CASSANDRA-19113: Publishing dtest-shaded JARs on release

2023-11-29 Thread Alex Petrov
+1, we definitely need to start releasing jars, and preferrably doing it with some reasonable cadence / on demand. There is a slight problem with the fact we can not cut releases without votes, which, combined with the fact that we need sha-stable snapshots, makes it tricky. Best way to do

[VOTE] Release Harry 0.0.2

2023-11-29 Thread Alex Petrov
Even though we would like to bring harry in-tree, this is not an immediate priority. Meanwhile, we need to unblock RPM builds for trunk, which means no custom jars. We will have at least one more Harry release with outstanding features to avoid any blocking. Proposing the test build of

CASSANDRA-19054 – Community Catalyst Program

2023-11-29 Thread Mick Semb Wever
Raising for broader awareness, the project plans to announce a Catalyst program in the next few days. For further details please see CASSANDRA-19054. If you have any questions or concerns please raise them.

Re: [DISCUSS] CASSANDRA-19113: Publishing dtest-shaded JARs on release

2023-11-29 Thread Mick Semb Wever
> > If you checked SHAs I suspect we would skip 90% of the dtests-jar builds > in CI? > Yes. The repeated building in each stage and split/container is nuts. This can be solved in various ways, e.g. stashes, published snapshots, … I think the stashing approach is simplest here, at the build

Pre-commit (devbranch) ci-cassandra.a.o on 5.0 and trunk unavailable

2023-11-29 Thread Mick Semb Wever
For broader awareness. The debranch job on ci-cassandra.a.o: that used for pre-commit testing; is currently not available for patches against 5.0 and trunk. Restoring it is part of CASSANDRA-18594. This was a priority up until recently, eta now is early January. Those that do not have circleci

Re: [DISCUSS] CASSANDRA-19113: Publishing dtest-shaded JARs on release

2023-11-29 Thread Berenguer Blasi
If you checked SHAs I suspect we would skip 90% of the dtests-jar builds in CI? On 29/11/23 9:26, Mick Semb Wever wrote: On Tue, 28 Nov 2023 at 20:06, Abe Ratnofsky wrote: Hey folks - wanted to raise a separate thread to discuss publishing of dtest-shaded JARs on release.

Re: [DISCUSS] CASSANDRA-19113: Publishing dtest-shaded JARs on release

2023-11-29 Thread Mick Semb Wever
On Tue, 28 Nov 2023 at 20:06, Abe Ratnofsky wrote: > Hey folks - wanted to raise a separate thread to discuss publishing of > dtest-shaded JARs on release. > > Currently, adjacent projects that want to use the jvm-dtest framework need > to build the shaded JARs themselves. This is a decent