Re: [Vote] Releasing 2.1.1

2003-09-14 Thread Antonio Gallardo
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Re: Future build (was RE: [Vote] Releasing 2.1.1)

2003-09-13 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On Thursday, Sep 4, 2003, at 08:27 Europe/Rome, Jeff Ramsdale wrote: I expect the average new Cocoon user is also a Windows user (though I could be wrong). So why are the snapshots not in .zip format? FYI: WinZip supports tar.gz files just fine. That may be (and I suspected as much), but

Re: [Vote] Releasing 2.1.1

2003-09-13 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On Thursday, Sep 4, 2003, at 16:13 Europe/Rome, Antonio Gallardo wrote: Giacomo Pati dijo: Have a look at http://quartz.sourceforge.net/javadoc/org/quartz/CronTrigger.html for more details. I would love to, but it is - for any reason - not accessible from here right now - only the tutorial. And

Re: [Vote] Releasing 2.1.1

2003-09-13 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On Thursday, Sep 4, 2003, at 16:21 Europe/Rome, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Antonio Gallardo wrote: Carsten Ziegeler dijo: Giacomo Pati wrote: I would love to, but it is - for any reason - not accessible from here right now - only the tutorial. And there I found the periodic trigger :) Go blame you

Re: [Vote] Releasing 2.1.1

2003-09-13 Thread Antonio Gallardo
Stefano Mazzocchi dijo: On Thursday, Sep 4, 2003, at 16:21 Europe/Rome, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Antonio Gallardo wrote: Carsten Ziegeler dijo: Giacomo Pati wrote: I would love to, but it is - for any reason - not accessible from here right now - only the tutorial. And there I found the

RE: Future build (was RE: [Vote] Releasing 2.1.1)

2003-09-05 Thread Hunsberger, Peter
Jeff Ramsdale [EMAIL PROTECTED] asks: Asking a user to download and install another software package is out of the question. They have perfectly capable .zip functionality already on their system. We provide a .zip file for the latest distribution, why night the nightly snapshot? It seems

RE: Future build (was RE: [Vote] Releasing 2.1.1)

2003-09-05 Thread Timothy Larson
--- Hunsberger, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... If you really think it's necessary we could place links to the necessary unzip tools on the download pages... Lets add the links, just to be friendly to the users. --Tim Larson __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo!

Re: Future build (was RE: [Vote] Releasing 2.1.1)

2003-09-05 Thread Berin Loritsch
Hunsberger, Peter wrote: Jeff Ramsdale [EMAIL PROTECTED] asks: Asking a user to download and install another software package is out of the question. They have perfectly capable .zip functionality already on their system. We provide a .zip file for the latest distribution, why night the

RE: Future build (was RE: [Vote] Releasing 2.1.1)

2003-09-04 Thread Jeff Ramsdale
I expect the average new Cocoon user is also a Windows user (though I could be wrong). So why are the snapshots not in .zip format? FYI: WinZip supports tar.gz files just fine. That may be (and I suspected as much), but WinZip would be another download for a user who just wants to try out

Re: [Vote] Releasing 2.1.1

2003-09-04 Thread Giacomo Pati
On Wed, 3 Sep 2003, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Thanks to Bruno we have a solution (or workaround) for the CommandManager problem. Great! So afaik we don't have another blocker for the 2.1.1 release. As I'm going on vacation starting saturday (yeah), I propose to do the release this friday.

RE: [Vote] Releasing 2.1.1

2003-09-04 Thread Giacomo Pati
On Wed, 3 Sep 2003, Reinhard Poetz wrote: From: Reinhard Poetz From: Bruno Dumon On Wed, 2003-09-03 at 12:01, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: snip/ As I'm going on vacation starting saturday (yeah), I propose to do the release this friday. +1 Since we decided that we

Re: [Vote] Releasing 2.1.1

2003-09-04 Thread Giacomo Pati
On Wed, 3 Sep 2003, Andrew Savory wrote: On Wed, 3 Sep 2003, Steven Noels wrote: IMHO, it's simply unworkable to have major stuff going on in one module, over two branches, at the same time. In CVS, I've always found branches == pain. Can you explain you pains? I've found it quite

RE: [Vote] Releasing 2.1.1

2003-09-04 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Giacomo Pati wrote: One thing I'd like to put in: Now that the new Corn block has been added, can we get rid of the Cornerstone Scheduler? If we can, it would never appear in ANY release. Corn? Nice. You know, if you go into a pub you often order a beer and a corn (=booze). Ok, I'm drifting

RE: [Vote] Releasing 2.1.1

2003-09-04 Thread Giacomo Pati
On Thu, 4 Sep 2003, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Giacomo Pati wrote: One thing I'd like to put in: Now that the new Corn block has been added, can we get rid of the Cornerstone Scheduler? If we can, it would never appear in ANY release. Corn? Nice. You know, if you go into a pub you often

RE: [Vote] Releasing 2.1.1

2003-09-04 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Giacomo Pati wrote: I will have a look at the cron block right now. Thanks, awaiting your comments :-) Hi Giacomo, please look at the other thread (Cron Block). I added an addPeriodicJob() method to your scheduler to allow periodic invocation (in seconds). With that change I'm able to

RE: [Vote] Releasing 2.1.1

2003-09-04 Thread Giacomo Pati
On Thu, 4 Sep 2003, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Giacomo Pati wrote: I will have a look at the cron block right now. Thanks, awaiting your comments :-) Hi Giacomo, please look at the other thread (Cron Block). I added an addPeriodicJob() method to your scheduler to allow periodic

Re: Future build (was RE: [Vote] Releasing 2.1.1)

2003-09-04 Thread Berin Loritsch
Miles Elam wrote: Jeff Ramsdale wrote: I expect the average new Cocoon user is also a Windows user (though I could be wrong). So why are the snapshots not in .zip format? FYI: WinZip supports tar.gz files just fine. With WinXP, most people (meaning at least me) don't bother with WinZip

RE: [Vote] Releasing 2.1.1

2003-09-04 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
: Thursday, September 04, 2003 2:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Vote] Releasing 2.1.1 So, if I followed all the scheduler stuff going back and forth for the past week, the Quartz scheduler is being used and your scheduler stuff uses it now. I just wanted to wait for the dust to settle before

RE: [Vote] Releasing 2.1.1

2003-09-04 Thread Giacomo Pati
On Thu, 4 Sep 2003, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Giacomo Pati wrote: please look at the other thread (Cron Block). I added an addPeriodicJob() method to your scheduler to allow periodic invocation (in seconds). With that change I'm able to convert to your scheduler and we can

Re: Future build (was RE: [Vote] Releasing 2.1.1)

2003-09-04 Thread Antonio Gallardo
Berin Loritsch dijo: Miles Elam wrote: Jeff Ramsdale wrote: I expect the average new Cocoon user is also a Windows user (though I could be wrong). So why are the snapshots not in .zip format? Because there are too big for download and waste broandband ;) FYI: WinZip supports tar.gz files

RE: [Vote] Releasing 2.1.1

2003-09-04 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Giacomo Pati wrote: Yes, this is easy for each second, but what when I want to schedule the job, let's say every 5 seconds or every 80 minutes? You don't know cron, don't you? No, and the expert I ask, suggested to write 0,5,10,... * * * * :) every 5 second: */5 * * * * every 80

RE: [Vote] Releasing 2.1.1

2003-09-04 Thread Giacomo Pati
On Thu, 4 Sep 2003, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Giacomo Pati wrote: Yes, this is easy for each second, but what when I want to schedule the job, let's say every 5 seconds or every 80 minutes? You don't know cron, don't you? No, and the expert I ask, suggested to write 0,5,10,... * *

RE: [Vote] Releasing 2.1.1

2003-09-04 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Giacomo Pati wrote: I would love to, but it is - for any reason - not accessible from here right now - only the tutorial. And there I found the periodic trigger :) Go blame you ISP :-) Or I can drink some corn until I forget about it :) Carsten

RE: [Vote] Releasing 2.1.1

2003-09-04 Thread Antonio Gallardo
Carsten Ziegeler dijo: Giacomo Pati wrote: I would love to, but it is - for any reason - not accessible from here right now - only the tutorial. And there I found the periodic trigger :) Go blame you ISP :-) Or I can drink some corn until I forget about it :) Do you mean corn wine? lol.

RE: [Vote] Releasing 2.1.1

2003-09-04 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Antonio Gallardo wrote: Carsten Ziegeler dijo: Giacomo Pati wrote: I would love to, but it is - for any reason - not accessible from here right now - only the tutorial. And there I found the periodic trigger :) Go blame you ISP :-) Or I can drink some corn until I forget about

RE: [Vote] Releasing 2.1.1

2003-09-04 Thread Giacomo Pati
On Thu, 4 Sep 2003, Antonio Gallardo wrote: Carsten Ziegeler dijo: Giacomo Pati wrote: I would love to, but it is - for any reason - not accessible from here right now - only the tutorial. And there I found the periodic trigger :) Go blame you ISP :-) Or I can drink some corn

RE: [Vote] Releasing 2.1.1

2003-09-04 Thread Matthew Langham
Seriously, here in Latin America this is a kind of native drink. One gets native very soon drinking the corn Carsten means ;-) In my country it is called chicha bruja Also the indians has another drink using corn it is destilled alcohol called cususa. :) Corn from sweet corn? Can

Re: [Vote] Releasing 2.1.1

2003-09-04 Thread David Kavanagh
Whops! I ment to mail to Carsten (as he and I had conversations about this before the scheduler switch) Sorry. David Kavanagh wrote: So, if I followed all the scheduler stuff going back and forth for the past week, the Quartz scheduler is being used and your scheduler stuff uses it

Re: [Vote] Releasing 2.1.1

2003-09-04 Thread Berin Loritsch
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Giacomo Pati wrote: please look at the other thread (Cron Block). I added an addPeriodicJob() method to your scheduler to allow periodic invocation (in seconds). With that change I'm able to convert to your scheduler and we can forget the cornerstone one (and 5 jar

RE: [Vote] Releasing 2.1.1

2003-09-04 Thread Antonio Gallardo
Giacomo Pati dijo: On Thu, 4 Sep 2003, Antonio Gallardo wrote: Carsten Ziegeler dijo: Giacomo Pati wrote: I would love to, but it is - for any reason - not accessible from here right now - only the tutorial. And there I found the periodic trigger :) Go blame you ISP :-) Or I

Re: [Vote] Releasing 2.1.1

2003-09-04 Thread Giacomo Pati
On Thu, 4 Sep 2003, Berin Loritsch wrote: Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Giacomo Pati wrote: please look at the other thread (Cron Block). I added an addPeriodicJob() method to your scheduler to allow periodic invocation (in seconds). With that change I'm able to convert to your scheduler

RE: Future build (was RE: [Vote] Releasing 2.1.1)

2003-09-04 Thread Jeff Ramsdale
I expect the average new Cocoon user is also a Windows user (though I could be wrong). So why are the snapshots not in .zip format? Because there are too big for download and waste broandband ;) Versus downloading from CVS, which was the suggestion from the initial fictitious conversation

Re: [Vote] Releasing 2.1.1

2003-09-03 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Carsten Ziegeler wrote, On 03/09/2003 12.01: ... As I'm going on vacation starting saturday (yeah), I propose to do the release this friday. +1 -- Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] - verba volant, scripta manent - (discussions get forgotten, just code remains)

RE: [Vote] Releasing 2.1.1

2003-09-03 Thread Reinhard Poetz
From: Carsten Ziegeler Thanks to Bruno we have a solution (or workaround) for the CommandManager problem. Great! So afaik we don't have another blocker for the 2.1.1 release. As I'm going on vacation starting saturday (yeah), I propose to do the release this friday. The

RE: [Vote] Releasing 2.1.1

2003-09-03 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Reinhard Poetz wrote: One question: Has the issue with proxies been solved? Do you have a pointer? Carsten

RE: [Vote] Releasing 2.1.1

2003-09-03 Thread Reinhard Poetz
- From: Carsten Ziegeler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 12:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Vote] Releasing 2.1.1 Reinhard Poetz wrote: One question: Has the issue with proxies been solved? Do you have a pointer? Carsten

Re: [Vote] Releasing 2.1.1

2003-09-03 Thread Bruno Dumon
On Wed, 2003-09-03 at 12:01, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: snip/ As I'm going on vacation starting saturday (yeah), I propose to do the release this friday. +1 Since we decided that we don't like creating new repositories nor CVS branches, I assume this will be the last release in the 2.1.x series?

RE: [Vote] Releasing 2.1.1

2003-09-03 Thread Reinhard Poetz
From: Bruno Dumon On Wed, 2003-09-03 at 12:01, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: snip/ As I'm going on vacation starting saturday (yeah), I propose to do the release this friday. +1 Since we decided that we don't like creating new repositories nor CVS branches, I assume this will be the

RE: [Vote] Releasing 2.1.1

2003-09-03 Thread Reinhard Poetz
From: Reinhard Poetz From: Bruno Dumon On Wed, 2003-09-03 at 12:01, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: snip/ As I'm going on vacation starting saturday (yeah), I propose to do the release this friday. +1 Since we decided that we don't like creating new repositories nor CVS

Re: [Vote] Releasing 2.1.1

2003-09-03 Thread Upayavira
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Thanks to Bruno we have a solution (or workaround) for the CommandManager problem. Great! So afaik we don't have another blocker for the 2.1.1 release. As I'm going on vacation starting saturday (yeah), I propose to do the release this friday. The alternatives are: -

RE: [Vote] Releasing 2.1.1

2003-09-03 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Reinhard Poetz wrote: Since we decided that we don't like creating new repositories nor CVS branches, I assume this will be the last release in the 2.1.x series? If this doesn't mean that we wait another 18 months or so until releasing 2.2 ... ;) more seriously: How do we deal

Re: [Vote] Releasing 2.1.1

2003-09-03 Thread Steven Noels
Reinhard Poetz wrote: more seriously: How do we deal with bugfix releases in the future if we don't have a branch or another repository? Like we do with 2.0.x? It's just a matter of releasing, actually. /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought -

RE: [Vote] Releasing 2.1.1

2003-09-03 Thread Reinhard Poetz
From: Carsten Ziegeler Im really tired of discussing this (it's not your fault, Reinhard). I suggested again and again to start a new repository for 2.2 (which is equivalent to starting a 2.2 branch - or a 2.1.x branch), but I always got the reply let's see if we really need 2.2, let's

Re: [Vote] Releasing 2.1.1

2003-09-03 Thread Steven Noels
Reinhard Poetz wrote: I understand your feelings ... IMO we should be able to release 2.1.x version in the future. Mabe I'm a bit afraid of the changes (blocks, fortress, virtual sitemap components) and how long it takes us to release stable versions of Cocoon (not beta, not milestone or

RE: [Vote] Releasing 2.1.1

2003-09-03 Thread Reinhard Poetz
From: Steven Noels Reinhard Poetz wrote: I understand your feelings ... IMO we should be able to release 2.1.x version in the future. Mabe I'm a bit afraid of the changes (blocks, fortress, virtual sitemap components) and how long it takes us to release stable versions of

Re: [Vote] Releasing 2.1.1

2003-09-03 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
. Reinhard -Original Message- From: Carsten Ziegeler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 12:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Vote] Releasing 2.1.1 Reinhard Poetz wrote: One question: Has the issue with proxies been solved? Do you have

RE: [Vote] Releasing 2.1.1

2003-09-03 Thread Reinhard Poetz
From: Vadim Gritsenko Reinhard Poetz wrote: a comment by Vadim: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=xml-cocoon-devm=106096301526641w=2 My comment has nothing to do with proxies. As Joerg found out, this is the problem with M$ html extensions and XPath:

Re: [Vote] Releasing 2.1.1

2003-09-03 Thread Antonio Gallardo
Nicola Ken Barozzi dijo: Carsten Ziegeler wrote, On 03/09/2003 12.01: ... As I'm going on vacation starting saturday (yeah), I propose to do the release this friday. +1 +1 ;) But please include: http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=13070 Best Regards, Antonio Gallardo

RE: [Vote] Releasing 2.1.1

2003-09-03 Thread Timothy Larson
--- Reinhard Poetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... I think so many people (of course including me) were waiting for 2.1 and I really want to use it for some time in production without doing alpha/beta testing of 2.2 and I like to have support of bugfix releases of 2.1 (see the security holes

Re: [Vote] Releasing 2.1.1

2003-09-03 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Reinhard Poetz wrote: Since we decided that we don't like creating new repositories nor CVS branches, I assume this will be the last release in the 2.1.x series? If this doesn't mean that we wait another 18 months or so until releasing 2.2 ... ;) more

RE: [Vote] Releasing 2.1.1

2003-09-03 Thread Antonio Gallardo
Timothy Larson dijo: --- Reinhard Poetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... I think so many people (of course including me) were waiting for 2.1 and I really want to use it for some time in production without doing alpha/beta testing of 2.2 and I like to have support of bugfix releases of 2.1 (see

RE: [Vote] Releasing 2.1.1

2003-09-03 Thread Reinhard Poetz
From: Antonio Gallardo Timothy Larson dijo: --- Reinhard Poetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... I think so many people (of course including me) were waiting for 2.1 and I really want to use it for some time in production without doing alpha/beta testing of 2.2 and I like to have

Re: [Vote] Releasing 2.1.1

2003-09-03 Thread Steven Noels
Reinhard Poetz wrote: I haven't got it: How are we able to release e.g. 2.1.2 without a branch/new repository without using e.g. Fortress as container (nothing against Fortress, I'm no specialist in these container things and maybe this is the reason for my concerns)? I would like to give us some

Re: [Vote] Releasing 2.1.1

2003-09-03 Thread Steven Noels
Steven Noels wrote: I'm +1 on a 2.2 module, and +1 on 2.1.1 on Friday. Fortress might be something for 2.2 rather than 2.1.1, but I'll leave that to the people ^ duh: 2.1.x, of course /Steven -- Steven Noels

RE: [Vote] Releasing 2.1.1

2003-09-03 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Antonio Gallardo wrote: +1 ;) But please include: http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=13070 I will apply the patch asap. Thanks Antonio! Could you please provide some docs as well for using the logicsheet in the correct xml format. Something like you have in the readme

RE: [Vote] Releasing 2.1.1

2003-09-03 Thread Antonio Gallardo
Carsten Ziegeler dijo: Antonio Gallardo wrote: +1 ;) But please include: http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=13070 I will apply the patch asap. Thanks Antonio! Could you please provide some docs as well for using the logicsheet in the correct xml format. Something like you

Re: [Vote] Releasing 2.1.1

2003-09-03 Thread Andrew Savory
On Wed, 3 Sep 2003, Steven Noels wrote: IMHO, it's simply unworkable to have major stuff going on in one module, over two branches, at the same time. In CVS, I've always found branches == pain. I appreciate a move to something like subversion is quite a revolution, and I'd suggest it's

Re: [Vote] Releasing 2.1.1

2003-09-03 Thread Geoff Howard
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: As I'm going on vacation starting saturday (yeah), I propose to do the release this friday. +1 for Friday Geoff

Re: [Vote] Releasing 2.1.1

2003-09-03 Thread Geoff Howard
Reinhard Poetz wrote: From: Carsten Ziegeler Im really tired of discussing this (it's not your fault, Reinhard). I suggested again and again to start a new repository for 2.2 (which is equivalent to starting a 2.2 branch - or a 2.1.x branch), but I always got the reply let's see if we really

Future build (was RE: [Vote] Releasing 2.1.1)

2003-09-03 Thread Jeff Ramsdale
IMHO, it's simply unworkable to have major stuff going on in one module, over two branches, at the same time. In CVS, I've always found branches == pain. I appreciate a move to something like subversion is quite a revolution, and I'd suggest it's something best kept for the next

Re: Future build (was RE: [Vote] Releasing 2.1.1)

2003-09-03 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
Jeff Ramsdale wrote: If all the cool features that users want to play with are in the HEAD via Subversion, you might think about easing the path to entry for the new user... Ain't this (http://cvs.apache.org/snapshots/cocoon-2.1/) easy enough? :) Vadim

RE: Future build (was RE: [Vote] Releasing 2.1.1)

2003-09-03 Thread Jeff Ramsdale
If all the cool features that users want to play with are in the HEAD via Subversion, you might think about easing the path to entry for the new user... Ain't this (http://cvs.apache.org/snapshots/cocoon-2.1/) easy enough? :) Vadim For a moment I was going to acquiesce, but then I

Re: Future build (was RE: [Vote] Releasing 2.1.1)

2003-09-03 Thread Miles Elam
Jeff Ramsdale wrote: I expect the average new Cocoon user is also a Windows user (though I could be wrong). So why are the snapshots not in .zip format? FYI: WinZip supports tar.gz files just fine. - Miles Elam