Re: [RT] Starting 2.2

2003-09-18 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On Thursday, Sep 18, 2003, at 05:12 Europe/Rome, Geoff Howard wrote: Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: All right, what the hell, you are right, let's move out of the impasse. I thought we'd come to some agreement that no option was without problems but that splitting to a separate cocoon-2.2 module was

Re: [RT] Starting 2.2

2003-09-17 Thread Geoff Howard
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: All right, what the hell, you are right, let's move out of the impasse. I thought we'd come to some agreement that no option was without problems but that splitting to a separate cocoon-2.2 module was probably the least bad option. let's do a quick poll: who would be

Re: [RT] Starting 2.2

2003-09-13 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On Friday, Aug 29, 2003, at 20:27 Europe/Rome, Jay Freeman ((saurik)) wrote: Stefano: I totally agree on the evolution thing. To start, the process of moving to Subversion would be a repository import, not starting from scratch. As for tools: http://subclipse.tigris.org/ (Subversion plugin

Re: [RT] Starting 2.2

2003-09-13 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Saturday 13 September 2003 18:40, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: let's do a quick poll: who would be absolutely against using Subversion for the Cocoon 2.2 tree (granted that we can safely import the existing CVS tree into it)? state your reasons and try to be as less inertial and defensive on

Re: [RT] Starting 2.2

2003-08-29 Thread Jay Freeman \(saurik\)
: Berin Loritsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 3:30 PM Subject: Re: [RT] Starting 2.2 J.Pietschmann wrote: Timothy Larson wrote: I also wondered about Subversion when the repositories started multiplying :) Is this a possibility

Re: [RT] Starting 2.2

2003-08-29 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On Thursday, Aug 28, 2003, at 20:00 Europe/Rome, Jay Freeman ((saurik)) wrote: So my eye finally caught on the Starting 2.2 thread today, it seemed interesting, and I went to read through this... and I must say the main reaction I ended up having to it is HUH?!?. :) Is the reason you need a new

RE: [RT] Starting 2.2

2003-08-29 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Carsten, forget beauty of versioning and let's start working on cocoon-2.1 HEAD, this will: 1) reduce effort and duplication 2) keep people sane since every commit will have to keep the tree in shape (it's entirely possible to implement real blocks with what

Re: [RT] Starting 2.2

2003-08-29 Thread Berin Loritsch
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: joke Ah, btw. I will replace ECM with fortress over the weekend. Any problems with that? /joke Don't tease me... Want I should do it? -- They that give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -

RE: [RT] Starting 2.2

2003-08-29 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Berin Loritsch wrote: joke Ah, btw. I will replace ECM with fortress over the weekend. Any problems with that? /joke Don't tease me... Want I should do it? Hey, great! I'm definitly +5 for this! So if you want to do it, you could start a vote and see what will happen next...

Re: [RT] Starting 2.2

2003-08-29 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: joke Ah, btw. I will replace ECM with fortress over the weekend. Any problems with that? Yep. Aren't we supposed to use Merlin instead? I'm checking in the code as we speak... /joke Vadim

RE: [RT] Starting 2.2

2003-08-28 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Hello. Is there anybody in there? Just nod if you can hear me. Is there anyone home? Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Pier Fumagalli wrote: On 13/8/03 16:37, Carsten Ziegeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, let's do simple steps perhaps: Do you think that we should start a new

Re: [RT] Starting 2.2

2003-08-28 Thread Upayavira
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Le Jeudi, 28 aoû 2003, à 09:18 Europe/Zurich, Carsten Ziegeler a écrit : ...Great! Combined with the recent RTs, does still someone feel that starting 2.2 is the right thing? Or are there still objections?... I'm +1 on starting 2.2 given what's going on (or planned)

RE: [RT] Starting 2.2

2003-08-28 Thread Antonio Gallardo
Carsten Ziegeler dijo: Hello. Is there anybody in there? Just nod if you can hear me. Is there anyone home? Great :) Antonio Gallardo

Re: [RT] Starting 2.2

2003-08-28 Thread Jay Freeman \(saurik\)
into better version control? Sincerely, Jay Freeman (saurik) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Carsten Ziegeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 2:18 AM Subject: RE: [RT] Starting 2.2 Pier Fumagalli wrote: On 13/8/03 16:37, Carsten

Re: [RT] Starting 2.2

2003-08-28 Thread Tony Collen
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: Maybe start 2.5, just to be in line with Linux? ;-P Screw that, let's just skip a couple major versions, everyone's doing it now, how does Cocoon 5.0 look? :) Better yet, let's just change the name alltogether: Cocoon XP Cocoon MX Cocoon MX 2004 I just love

Re: [RT] Starting 2.2 (was going to be The Project Formerly KnownAs Cocoon)

2003-08-28 Thread Geoff Howard
Tony Collen wrote: Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: Maybe start 2.5, just to be in line with Linux? ;-P Screw that, let's just skip a couple major versions, everyone's doing it now, how does Cocoon 5.0 look? :) Better yet, let's just change the name alltogether: Cocoon XP Cocoon MX Cocoon MX 2004 I

Re: [RT] Starting 2.2

2003-08-28 Thread Gianugo Rabellino
Jay Freeman (saurik) wrote: Has any thought been put into the next time we have to create another new repository should be the day we look into better version control? Amen! Personally I'd +1 the subversion switch in any moment. Ciao, -- Gianugo Rabellino Pro-netics s.r.l. -

Re: [RT] Starting 2.2 (was going to be The Project Formerly KnownAs Cocoon)

2003-08-28 Thread Tony Collen
Geoff Howard wrote: What about renaming the next release to an unpronounceable set of symbols, like Prince, or that Led Zepplin album? I'd suggest !#. How about: Cocoon Interrobang It would be pronounced, Cocoon?! In all seriousness, I'm all for 2.2, but what sorts of loose ends are there

Re: [RT] Starting 2.2

2003-08-28 Thread J.Pietschmann
Timothy Larson wrote: I also wondered about Subversion when the repositories started multiplying :) Is this a possibility? Is there a good CVS-Subversion repository converter? What's good? The Subversion project has a converter, last time I checked they said it still can't convert branches, and

Re: [RT] Starting 2.2

2003-08-28 Thread Berin Loritsch
J.Pietschmann wrote: Timothy Larson wrote: I also wondered about Subversion when the repositories started multiplying :) Is this a possibility? Is there a good CVS-Subversion repository converter? What's good? The Subversion project has a converter, last time I checked they said it still

Re: [RT] Starting 2.2

2003-08-28 Thread Gianugo Rabellino
Berin Loritsch wrote: What's good? The Subversion project has a converter, last time I checked they said it still can't convert branches, and that this was *the* killer for declaring SVN to be production ready. Trunk only CVS repositories seem to work for a long time already (disclaimer: gathered

Re: [RT] Starting 2.2 (was going to be The Project Formerly KnownAs Cocoon)

2003-08-28 Thread Geoff Howard
Tony Collen wrote: Geoff Howard wrote: What about renaming the next release to an unpronounceable set of symbols, like Prince, or that Led Zepplin album? I'd suggest !#. How about: Cocoon Interrobang It would be pronounced, Cocoon?! Actually, my proposal could be pronounced bang and pound

RE: [RT] Starting 2.2

2003-08-26 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Pier Fumagalli wrote: On 13/8/03 16:37, Carsten Ziegeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, let's do simple steps perhaps: Do you think that we should start a new repository? This is equivalent to saying we start a new major version (2.2). (if the answer is yes, we can talk about the

RE: [RT] Starting 2.2

2003-08-14 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Sylvain Wallez wrote: I don't clearly understand what you want to achieve... It's plain simple :) Now, the usual way would be to create a new repository (cocoon-2.2) and copy everything from 2.1 in there. Then we have two branches which require syncing which can be a real pita. My approach is

Re: [RT] Starting 2.2

2003-08-14 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 13/8/03 16:37, Carsten Ziegeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, let's do simple steps perhaps: Do you think that we should start a new repository? This is equivalent to saying we start a new major version (2.2). (if the answer is yes, we can talk about the layout). YES! :-) As I have few

Re: [RT] Starting 2.2

2003-08-14 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: ... Hmm, yes, but we could start the 2.2 repo with the current core source, so we have a starting point. I expect that blocks will require longer discussions and I personally don't want to wait with 2.2 for this. I'm wondering. What are you personally planning which

RE: [RT] Starting 2.2

2003-08-14 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Sylvain Wallez wrote: Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Ok, let's do simple steps perhaps: Do you think that we should start a new repository? This is equivalent to saying we start a new major version (2.2). (if the answer is yes, we can talk about the layout). You ask for the

RE: [RT] Starting 2.2

2003-08-14 Thread TREGAN Fabien
Title: RE: [RT] Starting 2.2 /me feels that you are trying to solve some problem without stating what the problem is Vadim Planning a IRC block with a mIRC log generator and all ? Great ! ;) fabien.

Re: [RT] Starting 2.2

2003-08-14 Thread Tony Collen
Joerg Heinicke wrote: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=xml-cocoon-devm=106077110314347w=2 Stefano: the road to real blocks: how to build it minimizing the impact on the existing code and with complete back compatibility (yes, it's possible!) Here's my own Mini-RT: If you've used a BSD, you've

Re: [RT] Starting 2.2

2003-08-14 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: I don't clearly understand what you want to achieve... It's plain simple :) Now, the usual way would be to create a new repository (cocoon-2.2) and copy everything from 2.1 in there. Then we have two branches which require syncing which can

RE: [RT] Starting 2.2

2003-08-14 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Ok, let's do simple steps perhaps: Do you think that we should start a new repository? This is equivalent to saying we start a new major version (2.2). (if the answer is yes, we can talk about the layout). Carsten

Re: [RT] Starting 2.2

2003-08-14 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Tony Collen wrote: Joerg Heinicke wrote: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=xml-cocoon-devm=106077110314347w=2 Stefano: the road to real blocks: how to build it minimizing the impact on the existing code and with complete back compatibility (yes, it's possible!) Here's my own Mini-RT: snip/

Re: [RT] Starting 2.2

2003-08-14 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Ok, let's do simple steps perhaps: Do you think that we should start a new repository? This is equivalent to saying we start a new major version (2.2). (if the answer is yes, we can talk about the layout). You ask for the solution to a problem that's not defined... Why

Re: [RT] Starting 2.2

2003-08-14 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Vadim Gritsenko wrote: Carsten Ziegeler wrote: ... Hmm, yes, but we could start the 2.2 repo with the current core source, so we have a starting point. I expect that blocks will require longer discussions and I personally don't want to wait with 2.2 for this.