Re: [RT] Unit testing and CocoonUnit

2003-11-03 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi Upayavira, This looks real good, having a specialized testing framework will certainly help improving our test traceability! I just have one small thing to add: ...CocoonUnit would use the CocoonBean to pass requests to Cocoon. The bean would prepare an Environment (maybe even an

Re: Fooling around with cocoon davmap

2003-11-03 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Unico Hommes wrote: snip/ CallFunctionNode.java ln 166/184: // FIXME (SW) : is a flow allowed not to redirect ? ;-D Uh (again)? I'm wondering if there's not a misunderstanding here: this FIXME is about knowing if a flowscript is allowed to terminate without stating what page it to be

Re: NPEs in FlowLayer

2003-11-03 Thread Jeremy Quinn
On Wednesday, October 29, 2003, at 05:10 PM, Christopher Oliver wrote: Can you recreate this problem with a simple example you can post to the list? I tried a simple replication of the problem, but so far, it still behaves properly. Still looking into it. regards Jeremy Jeremy Quinn wrote:

RE: Dynamic woody templates?

2003-11-03 Thread Reinhard Poetz
From: Sylvain Wallez But I'm also wondering, as woody usage increases, if we will not need to write form templates involving more and more conditional parts. And for this, JXTemplate shines. But mixing jx-like access to the form model with wt: templates elements is likely to quickly

RE: [heads up] cocoon's defaults form-encoding and seerialize-encoding are inconsistent.

2003-11-03 Thread Reinhard Poetz
From: Marc Portier snip/ So as a recap: Given the fact that todays browser behaviour is coupling 1. the encoding of the HTML-stream (from server to browser) describing the form to 2. the encoding used to encode the request params in the HTTP-request hosting the form-submit (from

Re: Dynamic woody templates?

2003-11-03 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Reinhard Poetz wrote: From: Sylvain Wallez But I'm also wondering, as woody usage increases, if we will not need to write form templates involving more and more conditional parts. And for this, JXTemplate shines. But mixing jx-like access to the form model with wt: templates elements is

Re: [heads up] cocoon's defaults form-encoding and seerialize-encoding are inconsistent.

2003-11-03 Thread Torsten Curdt
Yes, thank you Marc! I would prefer iso-8859-1 but this is just a feeling and no opinion based on facts ;-) me, too IIRC correctly at dff we had some encoding issues in the past ...all I remember was we switched to to iso-8859-1 and they were gone. ...but they might have been caused by the exact

Re: Profiling Pipeline [was Re: [RT] Unit testing and CocoonUnit]

2003-11-03 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On Sunday, Nov 2, 2003, at 20:32 Europe/Rome, Vadim Gritsenko wrote: Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: 3) move the whole thing into core -1, the core should only contain necessary components. +1, I wouldn't mind seeing it in core. It's like instrumentation manager which is also in core. which I

Improving HTTP protocol handling (Was: RE: Fooling around with cocoon davmap)

2003-11-03 Thread Unico Hommes
-Original Message- From: Sylvain Wallez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: maandag 3 november 2003 9:52 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unico Hommes wrote: snip/ We were talking about the fact that it seemed impossible to serve a request without also sending an entity body along

Re: Groovy language for XSP [Fwd: [xml-dev] The Free World vs Microsoft Inc: A Closer Look At Groovy]

2003-11-03 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On Monday, Nov 3, 2003, at 01:00 Europe/Rome, Ugo Cei wrote: [I'm crossposting to dev, since this might stimulate some comments from the Flowscript gurus over there.] Oleg Dulin wrote: Dear Fellow Cocoon Users: I just read the forwarded message on xml-dev mailing list and realized that Groovy

Re: Profiling Pipeline [was Re: [RT] Unit testing and CocoonUnit]

2003-11-03 Thread Torsten Curdt
instrumentation block can be a good place for both. The problem is that the instrumentation code is not (easily) modularizable as it's intermixed with a bunch of places (in short, is an aspect, not an object). I haven't looked into this yet but... Doesn't instrumentation also work through java

Re: Profiling Pipeline [was Re: [RT] Unit testing and CocoonUnit]

2003-11-03 Thread Stephan Michels
On Sun, 2 Nov 2003, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: On Sunday, Nov 2, 2003, at 15:57 Europe/Rome, Vadim Gritsenko wrote: Stephan Michels wrote: On Sun, 2 Nov 2003, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: On Saturday, Nov 1, 2003, at 23:29 Europe/Rome, Steve K wrote: And finally, on a somewhat

Re: Groovy language for XSP [Fwd: [xml-dev] The Free World vs Microsoft Inc: A Closer Look At Groovy]

2003-11-03 Thread Torsten Curdt
but it doesn't seem very probable that Groovy will support continuations any time soon, which is a pity. Pretty cool stuff. If they add continuations, I'm all for throwin rhino down the drain. maybe if *they* don't do it *we* could do it... maybe they are more willing to accept this feature?!

Re: Groovy language for XSP [Fwd: [xml-dev] The Free World vs Microsoft Inc: A Closer Look At Groovy]

2003-11-03 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: snip/ Pretty cool stuff. If they add continuations, I'm all for throwin rhino down the drain. [at least, from a community perspective, we wouldn't be basing our entire architecture on branched code of a almost-dead community hosted in a location that doesn't care

Re: Fooling around with cocoon davmap

2003-11-03 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On Monday, Nov 3, 2003, at 09:52 Europe/Rome, Sylvain Wallez wrote: Unico Hommes wrote: snip/ CallFunctionNode.java ln 166/184: // FIXME (SW) : is a flow allowed not to redirect ? ;-D Uh (again)? I'm wondering if there's not a misunderstanding here: this FIXME is about knowing if a flowscript

Re: Fooling around with cocoon davmap

2003-11-03 Thread Martin Holz
Stefano Mazzocchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Today, for example, I found out that Cadaver and DAVExplorer don't talk DeltaV to Slide... :- and I can't get Catacomb or Subversion to build on merlino. I'm sooo depressed. :-( Both do DeltaV for me. I am using current slide server from CVS

Re: Fooling around with cocoon davmap

2003-11-03 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
Sylvain Wallez wrote: Unico Hommes wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: Unico Hommes wrote: snip/ I just had a look at the code, seems it was already a FIXME on Sylvain's list. Can I go ahead and make this change? Uh? Where's that list?? CallFunctionNode.java ln 166/184: // FIXME (SW) :

Re: Improving HTTP protocol handling (Was: RE: Fooling around with cocoon davmap)

2003-11-03 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Unico Hommes wrote: snip/ IMO, this should be handled at the pipeline level, i.e. on a HEAD request, the pipeline should be built and setup, but not executed. And this for several reasons: - not every request is handled by flowscript - some pipeline components set response headers, such as the

Re: Groovy language for XSP

2003-11-03 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On Monday, Nov 3, 2003, at 12:11 Europe/Rome, Sylvain Wallez wrote: Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: snip/ Pretty cool stuff. If they add continuations, I'm all for throwin rhino down the drain. [at least, from a community perspective, we wouldn't be basing our entire architecture on branched code

Re: Fooling around with cocoon davmap

2003-11-03 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Vadim Gritsenko wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: snip/ Uh (again)? I'm wondering if there's not a misunderstanding here: this FIXME is about knowing if a flowscript is allowed to terminate without stating what page it to be displayed, i.e. check if one of sendPage(), sendPageAndWait() or

Re: Fooling around with cocoon davmap

2003-11-03 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: On Monday, Nov 3, 2003, at 09:52 Europe/Rome, Sylvain Wallez wrote: Unico Hommes wrote: snip/ CallFunctionNode.java ln 166/184: // FIXME (SW) : is a flow allowed not to redirect ? ;-D Uh (again)? I'm wondering if there's not a misunderstanding here: this FIXME is

Re: [bug?] exception thrown in sendPage() skips the proper error handler

2003-11-03 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On Saturday, Nov 1, 2003, at 19:27 Europe/Rome, Sylvain Wallez wrote: Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: On Saturday, Nov 1, 2003, at 12:09 Europe/Rome, Guido Casper wrote: See also: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10631375302r=1w=2 Great, so it's a bug. What's the status of this? has it been

Re: Fooling around with cocoon davmap

2003-11-03 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
Sylvain Wallez wrote: Vadim Gritsenko wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: snip/ Uh (again)? I'm wondering if there's not a misunderstanding here: this FIXME is about knowing if a flowscript is allowed to terminate without stating what page it to be displayed, i.e. check if one of sendPage(),

[VOTE] Remove IDL-Docs (was: Documenting the FOM)

2003-11-03 Thread Reinhard Poetz
I propose to remove the IDL-docs because they are far from being up-to-date and the Flow-API is well-described in our usual docs. Here my +1. -- Reinhard -Original Message- From: Reinhard Poetz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 8:34 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Profiling Pipeline [was Re: [RT] Unit testing and CocoonUnit]

2003-11-03 Thread Berin Loritsch
Antonio Gallardo wrote: Stefano Mazzocchi dijo: On Saturday, Nov 1, 2003, at 23:29 Europe/Rome, Steve K wrote: And finally, on a somewhat unrelated subject, one thing that I've always wanted Cocoon to do may be possible if support for collecting the XML at each pipeline step is added. To aid

Fortress Conversion Stalled

2003-11-03 Thread Berin Loritsch
I'll be honest with you, I remembered the last time I got involved in the COcoon internals, and based on the state of the project at that time, I could easily upgrade to Fortress. However things are much different now, and there are a number of places that Cocoon is deeply wed to ECM. I no longer

Re: HTML editor widget (was Re: [proposal] Doco)

2003-11-03 Thread Marc van Kempen
Bruno Dumon wrote: On Sat, 2003-11-01 at 16:20, Marc van Kempen wrote: Bruno Dumon wrote: On Fri, 2003-10-31 at 22:54, Marc van Kempen wrote: Bruno Dumon wrote: snip/ My first thought was to do this cleanup stuff serverside (could be as simple as an XSL, which would make it easily

Re: [VOTE] Remove IDL-Docs

2003-11-03 Thread Giacomo Pati
Reinhard Poetz wrote: I propose to remove the IDL-docs because they are far from being up-to-date and the Flow-API is well-described in our usual docs. Here my +1. +1 for me. -- Giacomo Pati Otego AG, Switzerland - http://www.otego.com Orixo, the XML business alliance - http://www.orixo.com

RE: Groovy language for XSP [Fwd: [xml-dev] The Free World vs Microsoft Inc: A Closer Look At Groovy]

2003-11-03 Thread Reinhard Poetz
From: Christopher Oliver Sylvain Wallez wrote: Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: snip/ Pretty cool stuff. If they add continuations, I'm all for throwin rhino down the drain. [at least, from a community perspective, we wouldn't be basing our entire architecture on branched code of a

Re: Groovy language for XSP [Fwd: [xml-dev] The Free World vs Microsoft Inc: A Closer Look At Groovy]

2003-11-03 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Christopher Oliver wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: snip/ Pretty cool stuff. If they add continuations, I'm all for throwin rhino down the drain. [at least, from a community perspective, we wouldn't be basing our entire architecture on branched code of a almost-dead

Re: HTML editor widget (was Re: [proposal] Doco)

2003-11-03 Thread Bruno Dumon
On Mon, 2003-11-03 at 14:59, Marc van Kempen wrote: Bruno Dumon wrote: On Sat, 2003-11-01 at 16:20, Marc van Kempen wrote: Bruno Dumon wrote: On Fri, 2003-10-31 at 22:54, Marc van Kempen wrote: Bruno Dumon wrote: snip/ My first thought was to do this cleanup stuff serverside

Re: [VOTE] Remove IDL-Docs

2003-11-03 Thread Tony Collen
Giacomo Pati wrote: Reinhard Poetz wrote: I propose to remove the IDL-docs because they are far from being up-to-date and the Flow-API is well-described in our usual docs. Here my +1. +1 for me. +1 here, too Tony

Re: [VOTE] Remove IDL-Docs

2003-11-03 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Lundi, 3 nov 2003, à 17:14 Europe/Zurich, Tony Collen a écrit : I propose to remove the IDL-docs because they are far from being up-to-date and the Flow-API is well-described in our usual docs. +1 -Bertrand

[VOTE] rollback Cocoon 2.2 and do Fortress merge later (was Re: Fortress Conversion Stalled)

2003-11-03 Thread Berin Loritsch
It only makes sense to roll back and start concentrating on Cocoon Blocks at this time. I do highly recommend refactoring Cocoon bit by bit to remove ECM assumptions wherever they exist so that the actual upgrade to Fortress or Merlin will be much simpler. +1 from me. Berin Loritsch wrote: I'll

Re: [VOTE] rollback Cocoon 2.2 and do Fortress merge later (was Re: Fortress Conversion Stalled)

2003-11-03 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Lundi, 3 nov 2003, à 17:18 Europe/Zurich, Berin Loritsch a écrit : It only makes sense to roll back and start concentrating on Cocoon Blocks at this time +1 ...Now if anyone wants to hire me so that I can work on it full time, then there will be no excuse ;P... This would be even better

Re: [VOTE] rollback Cocoon 2.2 and do Fortress merge later (was Re: Fortress Conversion Stalled)

2003-11-03 Thread Torsten Curdt
Berin Loritsch wrote: It only makes sense to roll back and start concentrating on Cocoon Blocks at this time. I do highly recommend refactoring Cocoon bit by bit to remove ECM assumptions wherever they exist so that the actual upgrade to Fortress or Merlin will be much simpler. +1 from me.

RE: Groovy language for XSP [Fwd: [xml-dev] The Free World vs Microsoft Inc: A Closer Look At Groovy]

2003-11-03 Thread Robert Sayre
Quoting Reinhard Poetz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: rhino-continuations in our CVS will make it easier to learn because it lowers the barrier to 'play' with it. the only problem is that the most of us aren't very familiar with the way how language interpreters work. Maybe you can give as some pointer

Re: [VOTE] rollback Cocoon 2.2 and do Fortress merge later (was Re: Fortress Conversion Stalled)

2003-11-03 Thread Berin Loritsch
Torsten Curdt wrote: Berin Loritsch wrote: It only makes sense to roll back and start concentrating on Cocoon Blocks at this time. I do highly recommend refactoring Cocoon bit by bit to remove ECM assumptions wherever they exist so that the actual upgrade to Fortress or Merlin will be much

Woody: new row-action widget

2003-11-03 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Hi all, I've added a new row-action widget to Woody. This widget implements some of the frequently needed row management actions, such as adding a row below the current one, deleting the current row or moving it up and down. This widget is different from repeater-action because it must be a

Re: [VOTE] rollback Cocoon 2.2 and do Fortress merge later (was Re: Fortress Conversion Stalled)

2003-11-03 Thread Torsten Curdt
Berin, is it more the lack of time or more the tight coupling with ECM? I was so glad to see this effort and I am wondering ...how much ...and what is left to do? Maybe you could give a summary of what you came across? Maybe you just need some more helping hands? Here is what is left to do: *

RE: [VOTE] rollback Cocoon 2.2 and do Fortress merge later (was Re: Fortress Conversion Stalled)

2003-11-03 Thread Unico Hommes
Berin Loritsch wrote: Unico Hommes wrote: - Recomposable / Reconfigurable interfaces: no solution yet, needs refactoring. We need to make these unneeded. - Support for current sitemap syntax instead of Fortress shorthand syntax (?) Easy enough to do. All you need to do

Re: Profiling Pipeline [was Re: [RT] Unit testing and CocoonUnit]

2003-11-03 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Berin Loritsch wrote: ... I have a feeling the timings are useless largely because of the granularity of the System.getTimeInMillis() method. On Windows the granularity is 10 ms. If the timing is less than that it registers as 0. Add enough zeros and it will always be less than the total time

Re: [VOTE] rollback Cocoon 2.2 and do Fortress merge later (was Re: Fortress Conversion Stalled)

2003-11-03 Thread Joerg Heinicke
On 03.11.2003 17:18, Berin Loritsch wrote: It only makes sense to roll back and start concentrating on Cocoon Blocks at this time. I do highly recommend refactoring Cocoon bit by bit to remove ECM assumptions wherever they exist so that the actual upgrade to Fortress or Merlin will be much

Re: [VOTE] Remove IDL-Docs

2003-11-03 Thread Joerg Heinicke
On 03.11.2003 13:29, Reinhard Poetz wrote: I propose to remove the IDL-docs because they are far from being up-to-date and the Flow-API is well-described in our usual docs. Here my +1. +1 Joerg

Re: [VOTE] rollback Cocoon 2.2 and do Fortress merge later (was Re: Fortress Conversion Stalled)

2003-11-03 Thread Stephen McConnell
Joerg Heinicke wrote: On 03.11.2003 17:18, Berin Loritsch wrote: It only makes sense to roll back and start concentrating on Cocoon Blocks at this time. I do highly recommend refactoring Cocoon bit by bit to remove ECM assumptions wherever they exist so that the actual upgrade to Fortress

Re: [VOTE] Remove IDL-Docs

2003-11-03 Thread Geoff Howard
Reinhard Poetz wrote: I propose to remove the IDL-docs because they are far from being up-to-date and the Flow-API is well-described in our usual docs. Here my +1. +1 Geoff

Re: [VOTE] rollback Cocoon 2.2 and do Fortress merge later (was Re: Fortress Conversion Stalled)

2003-11-03 Thread Christian Haul
Torsten Curdt wrote: Berin, is it more the lack of time or more the tight coupling with ECM? I was so glad to see this effort and I am wondering ...how much ...and what is left to do? Maybe you could give a summary of what you came across? Maybe you just need some more helping hands? Here is

Re: [VOTE] rollback Cocoon 2.2 and do Fortress merge later (was Re: Fortress Conversion Stalled)

2003-11-03 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Torsten Curdt wrote: Berin, is it more the lack of time or more the tight coupling with ECM? I was so glad to see this effort and I am wondering ...how much ...and what is left to do? Maybe you could give a summary of what you came across? Maybe you just need some more helping hands? Here is

Re: [heads up] cocoon's defaults form-encoding and seerialize-encoding are inconsistent.

2003-11-03 Thread Marc Portier
Joerg Heinicke wrote: On 03.11.2003 11:01, Reinhard Poetz wrote: Yes, thank you Marc! I would prefer iso-8859-1 but this is just a feeling and no opinion based on facts ;-) Even if it's only one parameter to change I would like to support non-ISO-characters by default and so prefer UTF-8.

Re: Groovy language for XSP [Fwd: [xml-dev] The Free World vs Microsoft Inc: A Closer Look At Groovy]

2003-11-03 Thread Steven Noels
Reinhard Poetz wrote: From: Christopher Oliver If you're concerned about community support why not add the Rhino-with-continuations source to the Cocoon cvs. I hope this will happen in the next weeks. I discuessed this with Steven and he has already offered to shepard the integration (licence

Re: [VOTE] rollback Cocoon 2.2 and do Fortress merge later (was Re: Fortress Conversion Stalled)

2003-11-03 Thread Antonio Gallardo
Berin Loritsch dijo: It only makes sense to roll back and start concentrating on Cocoon Blocks at this time. I do highly recommend refactoring Cocoon bit by bit to remove ECM assumptions wherever they exist so that the actual upgrade to Fortress or Merlin will be much simpler. +1 from me.

Re: [VOTE] rollback Cocoon 2.2 and do Fortress merge later (was Re: Fortress Conversion Stalled)

2003-11-03 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Berin Loritsch wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: Sure I will. It would clearly be a bad thing to trash the time and effort Bering has put there. I may not have the required time to do it by myself, but I'm ready to answer questions. So maybe with the combined support of Berin and me we can turn

Re: [VOTE] rollback Cocoon 2.2 and do Fortress merge later (was Re: Fortress Conversion Stalled)

2003-11-03 Thread peter royal
On Nov 3, 2003, at 4:33 PM, Berin Loritsch wrote: Anyhoo, the basic solution is to either build a tree/graph of pure components or a tree/graph of pure beans. Either solution will work. We need to get rid of the need for the LifecycleHelper type class. I would lean more toward the bean

Re: [VOTE] rollback Cocoon 2.2 and do Fortress merge later (was Re: Fortress Conversion Stalled)

2003-11-03 Thread Antonio Gallardo
peter royal dijo: On Nov 3, 2003, at 4:33 PM, Berin Loritsch wrote: Anyhoo, the basic solution is to either build a tree/graph of pure components or a tree/graph of pure beans. Either solution will work. We need to get rid of the need for the LifecycleHelper type class. I would lean more

DO NOT REPLY [PATCH QUEUE] Summary November 4 2003

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Re: [VOTE] rollback Cocoon 2.2 and do Fortress merge later (was Re: Fortress Conversion Stalled)

2003-11-03 Thread Ryan Hoegg
peter royal wrote: Anyone: Any thoughts about using Jelly as the builder for the sitemap? Its usage can be completely hidden, but as a tag processor, it might work very well. We could use it to construct a bean-graph to model the sitemap. -pete Sounds sensible. Is jelly in use anywhere else

Re: Groovy language for XSP [Fwd: [xml-dev] The Free World vs Microsoft Inc: A Closer Look At Groovy]

2003-11-03 Thread Oleg Dulin
I see there has been some discussion about continuations on their ML: http://lists.codehaus.org/pipermail/groovy-dev/2003q3/000158.html but it doesn't seem very probable that Groovy will support continuations any time soon, which is a pity. How about XSP ? I can certainly see it as a

Re: Groovy language for XSP [Fwd: [xml-dev] The Free World vs Microsoft Inc: A Closer Look At Groovy]

2003-11-03 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
Oleg Dulin wrote: I see there has been some discussion about continuations on their ML: http://lists.codehaus.org/pipermail/groovy-dev/2003q3/000158.html but it doesn't seem very probable that Groovy will support continuations any time soon, which is a pity. How about XSP ? I can certainly

Re: [IMP] Performance Killer and Memory leak

2003-11-03 Thread Berin Loritsch
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The lookup/release add/remove the component to/from an ArrayList. If you have a lot of Components which lookup other Components inside the compose method the List can be really big. If you have a lot of SubSitemaps which use many InputModules it grows and grows . and

Re: Re: [IMP] Performance Killer and Memory leak

2003-11-03 Thread volker . schmitt
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The lookup/release add/remove the component to/from an ArrayList. If you have a lot of Components which lookup other Components inside the compose method the List can be really big. If you have a lot of SubSitemaps which use many InputModules it grows and grows