Reinhard Poetz pisze:
First of all, there is not much to worry about. We're talking about
4.5 days worth of thinking, planning, and developing.
That's not much compared to the about 10 days (3 days with 3-4 people)
we spent here in Vienna in February.
I believe the fact that I'm not a
Grzegorz Kossakowski wrote:
Reinhard Poetz pisze:
snip/
Thinking further, in my opinion it is a great chance to attract new
developers and users because one of the main goals of Corona is that
it can be easily used from within different environments. This would
mean that it may become
Grzegorz Kossakowski wrote:
Now I'm glad to see that you want to share your work right from the
beginning and let whole community participate in the effort (including
me). I'm waiting impatiently to see this moving forward :-)
Steven and I will need some more time to tidy up Corona. If time
Reinhard Poetz pisze:
Agreed. What about officially announcing our effort at main site with
simple manifesto? I have a feeling that we agree on fundamental goals
so writing such a document shouldn't be a problem, right?
I plan to write a blog entry about it so that the information gets
David Crossley wrote:
Reinhard Poetz wrote:
Of course we are! We only have to work out the details of how we do it. The
main question is, if we have to go through ASF IP clearance or not.
Since it's rather a proposal than a finished project (~700 lines of code),
I think it's enough if Steven
Grzegorz Kossakowski wrote:
Reinhard Poetz pisze:
Grzegorz Kossakowski wrote:
Agreed. What about officially announcing our effort at main site with
simple manifesto? I have a feeling that we agree on fundamental goals
so writing such a document shouldn't be a problem, right?
I plan to
Luca Morandini wrote:
Sylvain Wallez wrote:
So we can take a different approach, and consider that we can use
plain programming languages rather than grow our own
pseudo-languages. A well-defined Java API and its Javascript
binding would make people way more productive than an XML-based
Sylvain Wallez wrote:
Luca Morandini wrote:
Do you mind terribly showing me an example of the use of this API ?
Something like:
CocooonStream stream= new CocoonStream(file, documents/mydoc.xml);
stream.transform(xslt, xsl/doc2html.xsl);
return stream.serialize(html);
Yes, something like
Luca Morandini wrote:
Sylvain Wallez wrote:
snip/
About existing APIs, javax.xml.transform addresses part of it (it
doesn't have stream inspection though) but it often perceived as
difficult to grasp from the simple fact that you have to wire the
pipeline backwards, starting with the
Reinhard Poetz wrote:
Of course we are! We only have to work out the details of how we do it. The
main question is, if we have to go through ASF IP clearance or not.
Since it's rather a proposal than a finished project (~700 lines of code),
I think it's enough if Steven sends in an CLA
Daniel Fagerstrom wrote:
Peter Hunsberger skrev:
On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 10:40 AM, Reinhard Poetz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Reinhard Poetz wrote:
sniplots of cool stuff/snip
So far Corona has been developed mostly by Steven (~ 90 % by him, 10
% by me)
behind closed doors but we would like
Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
Reinhard Poetz wrote:
Corona is inspired by Cocoon 2.x but doesn't use any of its
interfaces. The only exception will be the JNet source resolver[5]
that we will integrate very soon.
Ah, even cooler :) So far I haven't used JNet myself, so it seems you
found it
Bruce Atherton wrote:
Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
Reinhard Poetz wrote:
This rewrite that we gave the name Corona consists of
. a pipeline API (that isn't limited to XML pipelines but would also
support connecting of any types of pipes)
Do you have use cases for this? (Just curious)
I can
Steven Dolg wrote:
Grzegorz Kossakowski wrote:
Reinhard Poetz wrote:
So far Corona has been developed mostly by Steven (~ 90 % by him, 10 %
by me) behind closed doors but we would like to change that, if this
community is interested in adopting it in this or that way. Is there any
interest and
Peter Hunsberger wrote:
On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 10:40 AM, Reinhard Poetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Reinhard Poetz wrote:
sniplots of cool stuff/snip
So far Corona has been developed mostly by Steven (~ 90 % by him, 10 % by me)
behind closed doors but we would like to change that,
Steven Dolg wrote:
Hi guys,
I guess its about time to write something myself...
As a colleague of Reinhard I participated in the Micro-Cocoon effort
in February.
Just as Reinhard wrote, at the end of those 3 days, there was the idea
of doing a rewrite.
Nice work, I'm eager to have a look
Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
Reinhard Poetz wrote:
So far Corona has been developed mostly by Steven (~ 90 % by him, 10
% by me) behind closed doors but we would like to change that, if
this community is interested in adopting it in this or that way. Is
there any interest and if yes, how should
Sylvain Wallez wrote:
Corona (or whatever its final name).
Sure, it's just a working title to make communication easier and to have a
unique namespace (Java packages, Spring beans, etc.).
--
Reinhard PötzManaging Director, {Indoqa} GmbH
Sylvain Wallez wrote:
So we can take a different approach, and consider that we can use plain
programming languages rather than grow our own pseudo-languages. A
well-defined Java API and its Javascript binding would make people way
more productive than an XML-based language like the sitemap.
On Mar 14, 2008, at 2:22 PM, Luca Morandini wrote:
Sylvain Wallez wrote:
So we can take a different approach, and consider that we can use
plain programming languages rather than grow our own pseudo-
languages. A well-defined Java API and its Javascript binding
would make people way more
Reinhard Poetz wrote:
We at Indoqa have started to think about working on a slimmed down
version of Cocoon 2.2 (Micro-Cocoon).
snip/
Having said this, I want to mention that, for us, the Micro-Cocoon
effort is a feasability study, that we will conduct over the next 8
weeks.
Working on
On Mar 13, 2008, at 11:40 AM, Reinhard Poetz wrote:
. a pipeline API (that isn't limited to XML pipelines but would also
support connecting of any types of pipes)
. the pipeline API and the sitemap interpreter are useable from within
*plain Java code* (- no dependency on the Servlet API) --
Reinhard Poetz wrote:
In order to make sure that we don't break any functionality that we want
to keep working, I wrote integration tests (see [1] for the sitemap and
[2] for the integration test framework and [3] for the tests) which we
let run whenever we changed something.
This also gave
On 13.03.2008, at 18:11, Vadim Gritsenko wrote:
On Mar 13, 2008, at 11:40 AM, Reinhard Poetz wrote:
. a pipeline API (that isn't limited to XML pipelines but would also
support connecting of any types of pipes)
. the pipeline API and the sitemap interpreter are useable from
within
Torsten Curdt wrote:
On 13.03.2008, at 18:11, Vadim Gritsenko wrote:
On Mar 13, 2008, at 11:40 AM, Reinhard Poetz wrote:
. a pipeline API (that isn't limited to XML pipelines but would also
support connecting of any types of pipes)
. the pipeline API and the sitemap interpreter are
On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 10:40 AM, Reinhard Poetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Reinhard Poetz wrote:
sniplots of cool stuff/snip
So far Corona has been developed mostly by Steven (~ 90 % by him, 10 % by me)
behind closed doors but we would like to change that, if this community is
interested
Peter Hunsberger skrev:
On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 10:40 AM, Reinhard Poetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Reinhard Poetz wrote:
sniplots of cool stuff/snip
So far Corona has been developed mostly by Steven (~ 90 % by him, 10 % by me)
behind closed doors but we would like to change that, if this
Hi Reinhard,
Reinhard Poetz pisze:
snip/
That was the time when the idea of a rewrite was born. (And as I know it
is important for Grzegorz I want to say that he wasn't involved into
this rewrite in any ways.) I know, rewrites are a difficult topic
especially in the context of open source
Grzegorz Kossakowski pisze:
This rewrite that we gave the name Corona consists of
. a pipeline API (that isn't limited to XML pipelines but would also
support connecting of any types of pipes)
I second question of Reinhard. If not XML, then what? What's the use-case?
Sorry, I meant
Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
Reinhard Poetz wrote:
This rewrite that we gave the name Corona consists of
. a pipeline API (that isn't limited to XML pipelines but would also
support connecting of any types of pipes)
Do you have use cases for this? (Just curious)
I can think of a lot of them.
Hi guys,
I guess its about time to write something myself...
As a colleague of Reinhard I participated in the Micro-Cocoon effort in
February.
Just as Reinhard wrote, at the end of those 3 days, there was the idea
of doing a rewrite.
The number of use cases and the appr. 5500 lines of code
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